Today in "Ed Piskor retells the story of the X-Men", we hit the end of his series. I'll probably do a dump of the whole run once this is done, so stick around for what somehow became one of my favourite books published in the past decade.
X-Men - Grand Design - X-Tinction #2 storytime
Kayden Evans
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Liam Cook
Jacob Sanchez
Matthew Perry
Charles Lee
Oliver Sanchez
William Martin
Adam Peterson
Jeremiah Harris
Aaron Evans
Bentley Cook
Isaiah Jackson
Thomas Garcia
John Clark
Ryan White
Isaac Cooper
So did X-Factor happen or not? Why does Scott need Wolverine to give him exposition? Shouldn't it be the other way around since during this era the X-Men were blissfully ignorant about what was happening in America?
Zachary Barnes
Oliver Campbell
Julian Martin
>Sent to alternate universes
Wait, that's not what happened at all.
And why do they say that Havok's X-Gene is not detected, yet later have Havok use his powers as part of the Magistrates?
Justin Mitchell
Jaxson Hughes
Connor Nelson
Kind of weird how they just have Cameron Hodge show up as a cyborg without explaining how the hell that happened.
Gavin Wood
Hudson King
Evan King
Joseph Bennett
>No real introduction to Cable, he's just there
I gotta say the first 2 volumes of Grand Design did a much better job of summarizing X-Men history. Here they skip over a bunch of stuff or just say "that happened, moving on".
Also, why are the New Mutants still in their pre-Liefeld costumes?
Jose Lee
Adrian Price
Why is Nick Fury such an overt racist in this series?
Eli Hill
Noah Carter
Jack Thompson
Jack Taylor
Joshua Wood
Camden Jones
Jacob Cruz
Charles Jenkins
Nolan Carter
Dominic Howard
Jose Hernandez
Christian Mitchell
Wait, so America just nuked Genosha? How the hell did they justify that? Did they try blaming it on the mutants? I don't get it.
Tyler Perez
Hudson Edwards
George Bush doesn't care about mutant people. Or whoever was president at the time.
Joshua Phillips
Matthew Sanders
Christian Scott
That was a pretty underwhelming and anticlimactic ending.
Connor Rogers
Liam Kelly
what is up with those faces?
Angel Hall
I forgot that I had to resize all the pages from the first issue. Kill me.
Gabriel Hughes
Liam Williams
Jayden Flores
Ian Jones
Charles Reyes
Michael Jackson
Grayson Baker
Caleb Sanders
Andrew Gomez
Thanks OP, will buy when it's released in a standard-size book.
Jason Martin
Kevin Adams
Ayden Cox
Brayden Baker
Brandon Wilson
Caleb Baker
Man, over the years they've really played up Cap's history with Logan.
Isaiah Nelson
Dominic Stewart
>Number 28.
Piskor showing his Akira love. youtu.be
Bentley Clark
Noah Allen
Sebastian Williams
Why did they make Cain Marko even more of an asshole?
Joseph Gray
Blake Sanchez
Mason Cox
Henry Baker
Hunter Martin
Joshua Anderson
James Foster
Oliver Stewart
Lincoln Howard
Adrian Gray
Adrian Martinez
Adrian Sanchez
Henry Butler
Grayson Brown
Jonathan Garcia
Caleb Thomas
Elijah Ward
Lincoln Russell
Jason Thomas
Luke Young
Logan Ortiz
Carson James
Camden Roberts
That's a Rifleman, surprised HG isn't suing
Eli Murphy
Easton Smith
Ayden Hill
Joseph Foster
Aiden Barnes
Isaiah Price
Xavier Fisher
Nolan Gutierrez
Xavier Gray
Ryder Morgan
Benjamin Lewis
Jack Taylor
Joseph Lewis
Logan Morris
Julian Hughes
And recent retcons revealed that hobo Namor was all Charles Xavier's fault.
Oliver Clark
Benjamin Morris
Joseph Young
I kind of wish that Unus was used more often.
Josiah Lee
Luke Long
Jonathan Miller
Samuel Morris
Samuel Roberts
Angel Garcia
Sebastian Phillips
Andrew Jenkins
Julian Cook
Caleb Wright
Easton Reed
Dominic Hill
So Jean lost her virginity to this Ted guy and not Scott?
Evan Cook
Yeah, unironically she fucked Ted.
Hunter Cox
Asher Collins
Brandon Walker
William Ortiz
>Serves the little mutie sympathizer right
Seriously, why does Piskor hate Nick Fury so much? He keeps portraying him like the biggest bigot ever.
Elijah Brown
Isaiah Williams
Kayden Cox
Caleb Rogers
Connor Ramirez
Cameron Clark
>Professor-X told his students that he was faking his death rather than keep them in the dark for no reason
Not a bad change.
Samuel Ross
Alexander Mitchell
what the fuck? is Nick Fury usually such a racist grandpa in regular 616?
Joseph Walker
Angel Ward
Logan Peterson
Of course not, Ed Piskor is just writing Nick Fury really OOC.
David Sanders
Christian Fisher
Jordan Kelly
That's a good way of resolving the inexplicable Erik the Red continuity problems.
Asher Anderson
Justin Cox
Christopher Edwards
Matthew Jones
Julian Rivera
Lucas Moore
Dominic Rivera
Zachary Ortiz
Lucas Mitchell
Cooper Long
Cooper Wood
This is less comic-like with what happens with Saudi Arabia.
Adam Brooks
Eli Long
>giant robots beating Doctor Strange
seems odd
Ayden Lopez
Landon Hill
DID HIRO CHANGE THE MAX FILE SIZES AGAIN? HOLY SHIT THIS IS PISSING ME OFF. Even when it's under 4MBs it says it's too big.
Easton Williams
Christian Thompson
Because multiple generations (yes generations) of writers have twisted the Marvel Universe to where every competent authority figure needs to be a racist for any of the blatantly unconstitutional oppression to make sense.
Owen Stewart
Jaxon Hill
James Ramirez
Christian Wright
Christopher Harris
Carter Sanchez
For all the shit the Morrison anti-mutie virus deservedly gets, we're past the point where it's the only plausible explanation.
I'm currently reading Claremont's run and even there the X-Men are always oscilating between actual super-heroes and a prosecuted minority.
Justin Diaz
Nolan Bell
Weren't they in the tens of millions for mutie numbers in Morrison's run or just before it?
Thomas Parker
Owen Morales
Tyler Gomez
Jose Johnson
Dylan Parker
I'm not sure about the number, the last time I picked that book must have been in 2010 or so, but I do remember it was a plot point that mutant population was increasing at an absurd rate, but I think tens of millions is a bit much.
Julian Clark
Aiden Cook
16.5m population in Genosha. We're they all muties?
Levi Perez
Charles Jackson
Easton Gomez
Levi Martinez
Anthony Bennett
Oh, my mistake then
>Were they all muties?
Theoretically yes but they all die in the first few pages so I guess it doesn't count?
Jaxson Peterson
Jaxon Reyes
I’ve really enjoyed all the issues of this series but I think Piskor dropped the ball on not properly introducing Hodge or Cable
James Nguyen
Yeah, point being, a culling was necessary to keep then as "muh endangered species". And then they ballooned out again and Bendis had to House of M them.
Adrian Gonzalez
Anthony Young
Easton Phillips
Brayden Walker
Juan Sanders
Matthew Cox
Nathan Rogers
Bentley Richardson
Kevin Wright
Sentinel be checking out dat ass
Grayson Lee
Lincoln Anderson
Kevin Robinson
Ian Jones
Julian Smith
Michael Taylor
Dominic Lee
Having gone back and read the X-Men up to 1985, this series just reminds me so much of all the retcons later writers shoved in to justify something they were introducing.
Owen Lopez
I mean, in all honesty, 20 million people scattered all over the globe isn't that much, specially considering (I'm almost sure) pretty early on Morrison establishes that the worldwide mutant population is closer to morlocks than x-men.
Once you start getting dudes who are actually WORSE than humans AND being prosecuted, you see the need for a paramilitary global police force.
Imagine what would happen if an angry mob ganged up on Beak or Blob Herman or those morlocks whose only power apparently was being ugly as fuck who are also in some way affiliated with niggas like Magneto or Stryfe and people will get very uneasy near them.
Just look at all the lads in this site complaining about how blacks are the literal scourge of the earth even though most of them barely interact with anyone outside their immediate family.
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Tyler James
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Joseph Thomas
News reporter styled after the one in Dark Knight Returns
Isaac Barnes
Angel Jones
I fucked up, I won't be able to fit the whole run in this thread.
Christopher Sanchez
>I mean, in all honesty, 20 million people scattered all over the globe isn't that much, specially considering (I'm almost sure) pretty early on Morrison establishes that the worldwide mutant population is closer to morlocks than x-men.
They weren't "scattered over the globe" though. Both times there was a culling they already basically had a city of their own. The idea behind it likely was exactly stop that concept, since it'd heavily change their dynamics.
Adam Hernandez
Ryder Harris
Leo Cooper
Consider how indigenous population in the Americas far surpasses mutant population early in the Morrison run and how fragilized those peoples are, then imagine they are a bunch of big headed freaks with children's bodies instead of human beings with law-given rights
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In all honesty, the whole concept of Genosha seems to be "a place we can nuke when we need to show muties being prosecuted"
Josiah Ross
Brayden Parker
Brayden Wright
Julian Williams
David Anderson
Aiden Johnson
Also, while Genosha was a purely mutant island, there were mutant ghettos scattered in big cities over the world. Consider Japan. The thick of japanese population (I don't know how much that is) is obviously in Japan, but there's like 700k japanese immigrants or direct descendants only in São Paulo, and there's still a geo-cultural component in "being japanese", while anyone, anywhere, can one day wake up and find out they exhale radiation or whatever.
Ryan King
Camden Gutierrez
Christopher Perry
Jordan Miller
Justin Morgan
So this was some retelling of X-Men history but of the Days of Future Past timeline?
Adrian Kelly
Wyatt Howard
Noah Sullivan
Charles Foster
Jason Jackson
Michael Turner
Juan Myers
Nolan Ortiz
Dominic Williams
Carter Lewis
Carson Watson
Zachary Peterson
Jacob Howard
The original mission was to retell the X-Men’s story up till the end of Claremont’s run. There’s was some additions and tweaking here and there by Piskor and the final issue revealed that the days of futures past storyline had come to pass in a slightly altered fashion. Interesting direction for sure. I think I mostly enjoy the series for Piskor’s cartooning, visual storytelling, and doing a pretty good job compressing the whole thing but the last issue left me feeling unsatisfied.
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Jaxson Phillips
Samuel Taylor
Cooper Jackson
Tyler Watson
Kevin Barnes
Hudson Anderson
Jaxson King
As a fan of both the X-Men and Ed Piskor and someone who really fucking likes these books more than anything since Whedon left the X-Men and anything Piskor put out, the main draw for me is the artwork and the bizarre pacing (I'm not complaining, Ed makes it work, but the very endeavor demands a weird rhythm)
Joseph Ramirez
Daniel Evans
Aaron Jenkins
Jack Sanchez
John Morris
Henry King
Ryder Hughes
Ian Gonzalez
Grayson Allen
I'll make a new thread for the remaining issue. And I'll throw in Piskor's recolours of X-Men #1 and Giant Size.
Aiden Diaz
NEW THREAD
Lucas Walker
I?agree and I’m a Ed Piskor fan too. It just the final issue didn’t properly introduce characters like Hodge and Cable which felt strange when comparing it to other issues in this series where he mostly did a good job of establishing everything.
Justin Reyes
In all honesty I can't disagree with you because I have the books,I was waiting for it all to wrap up so I can read the actual things, I was just agreeing with you that these are the main draws because I have a 9 hour shift ahead of me but I'm very much hyped about it.
Ian Garcia
Fair enough man. Good luck with your shift. Hopefully you end up enjoying the whole thing. I’m looking forward to rereading it with the third volume
Henry Edwards
>Bishop comes from DoFP
That doesn't really work given Bishop's backstory, but whatever.
Asher Morgan
So X-Men: Grand Design - X-Tinction #2 got released first as digital before print?
I didn't see it when lining up my physical pull-list for this week.
Angel Cox
Your store probably under-ordered, Piskor has said multiple times in his channel that you're better off pre-ordering the books (and this is conjecture on my part but indeed, who the fuck would buy this book, fans of Piskor's other work most likely aren't interested in capes and cape fans aren't interested in weird looking art like that, as you can see on literally every thread about Deadly Genesis, not to mention autists SEETHING because Ed ignored the very clear, concise and well-ordered X-Men continuity)
Luke Gonzalez
wait what, I was never big into the X-Men but I was sure that whoever had that M tattoo came from the DofP future.
Joshua Clark
No, it wasn't even on my LCS's weekly list, and their individual page for the book shows next week. And my LCS is Midtown Comics in NYC. They DON'T under order heh
Jack Morales
This is a problem I had with this issue and the last one. So many things are just introduced without explanation, and it makes no sense if you're not familiar with the source material. The earlier books were better about this.
Blake Martinez
>The Runes of the Xavier school
The what now?
Ryan Fisher
Carson Howard
I kinda think him putting Bishop and Forge there is a reference to the cartoon.
Jack Gray
This
Every other book was impressively and meticulously planned out and this and the last one seemed a little too rushed, like maybe they told him to wrap it up before the relaunch
Christopher Nguyen
Doesn't help that they focused only on Uncanny X-Men and thus skipped everything about New Mutants and X-Factor that didn't directly cross over with UXM.
Aiden Campbell
>amazon Carol
NICE
Benjamin Young
Bump
Easton Hughes
This series isn't 616 canon, so probably not. But nobody remembered that guy, did Piskor do this just to make Scott/Jean shippers mad?
Easton James
boring
Isaac Evans
>Wait, that's not what happened at all.
He changed a lot of stuff for this, though I wonder why he went with that route with the alt universes instead. It sounds like Rogue, Dazzler, and Colossus never come back?
Christian Bennett
It's Senator Kelly, he's President by that point.
Ryder Perez
Wait what? This didn't come out yet....Thank you OP.
Easton Adams
>Wait what? This didn't come out yet....
>Piskor has mentioned the chinz in CF
Alright Ed if this is you posting, stop pirating yourself and go upload some shit on Kayfabe I'm going through some pretty serious cold turkey.
Jason Nguyen
mORE FANFICTION.
Nathaniel Young
mate it's not real, none of that happened, if you want to know how claremont's run went you can still go back and read those books, which I bet is something Piskor himself would recommend you to do. It's not even in continuity just to keep people like you from fucking dying over x-men continuity of all things.
Thomas Martinez
>mate it's not real, none of that happened
Why are you telling me something I already know?