Good evening owls,
we Gary Frank faces now
JSA Storytime: Gen13
Samuel Ward
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Luke Nguyen
Jordan Garcia
SO MANY EXPRESSIONS
Lincoln Carter
every page has a gift on it
Nolan Harris
Frank is like the 90's style equivalent of Kevin Maguire.
Carter Bailey
That's a solid take, they both pay very close attention to faces and add a ton of characterization
LOLOLOL
Tyler Green
Sup
Aiden Edwards
Ian Reyes
Howdy user
Jacob Lewis
Hello, Storyteller.
>well known comic artist
>early-mid work is fine
>recent stuff has collapsed into unintentional self parody
This is a thing that keeps happening.
Jaxon Martin
this is a real style change from Choi/JSC
Zachary Lee
Hey OP.
What else do I know Arcudi from?
Jesus, did the police give Burn out LSD?
Ryder Cooper
BPRD and Hellboy?
Jaxon Parker
I think the recent announcement that Joe Mad! won't be finishing Battle Chasers is another good example.
William Hill
A lot less breezy and high adventure so far, yeah.
Noah Roberts
and I remember reading some twitter comments about credit etc. for various things Arcudi did for the Hellboy mythos really not being forthcoming from Mignola/the recent movie, I want to say
Chase Rivera
For all of Frank's bad habits, I have an appreciation for him still. There aren't many artists these days who have such a distinctive style without often looking like lazy shit like Booth, Ramos, and JRJR. And it's a much better model for modern style than hacks like Hitch. But I understand why some people just don't like it.
Also he draws tights and bulges like fuckin' nobody's business, and old guys look like old guys. Love his JSA.
Gabriel Martinez
I like this face.
Also, has Gen 13 popped up in anything recent? Are they gonna show up in that new Wildstorm thing?
Henry Hill
Yeah, him and a few others IIRC.
It was a whole shitwheel.
Owen Miller
fucking lol
Jordan Phillips
The Gen-12s/Team 7 showed up in a sort of "prequel" arc to set them up, but that's about it.
Jack Scott
Charles Thomas
That's it. One of those memory blank brain fact situations.
Jackson Campbell
Nathaniel Allen
And all the better for it. I give Frank shit, but this is leagues and leagues above Liefeldian trash.
Need we even mention Land?
Also, what exactly is Battle Chasers?
Mason Martin
Jordan Allen
Joseph Torres
Jacob Cox
Carson Johnson
so how are you owls tonight?
Brody Price
The Mask
Major Bummer
Nathan Russell
Cute!
... This is the 90s though, so this WILL end in disaster. Poor Sarah.
I physically need Grunge to shut the fuck up.
Carson Taylor
Colton Baker
Adam Scott
Noah Lopez
Jose Reed
Owen Brown
d'awwwww
Jack Wilson
Battle Chasers is essentially Joe Mad's personal Final Fantasy story. It was one of the Cliffhanger subline books, but lasted like 9 issues before he got distracted and it went on hiatus until it got kickstarted as a videogame and he promised to finish the story to issue like, 14 as a stretch goal.
Jordan Cooper
>Arcudi did for the Hellboy mythos really not being forthcoming from Mignola/the recent movie
What happened?
Owen Torres
Fine. Having stupid hobbies is "fun".
You?
Sounds interesting. Weird, but interesting.
Gabriel Torres
Fine, any recent comics that you guys are reading? I'm still sorting through my Dr. Fate recs.
Adam Rivera
Chase Martinez
Recovering from my cold! I'm onto the "mostly over it but still loaded up with mucus" stage.
Nathan Lopez
Yeah, Grunge sure is a blathering idiot.
Robert Brown
Nathan Wright
Alexander Baker
Benjamin Smith
hows it going for y'all
recent comics are bad
Nathaniel Sanders
I'm interested in the Jimmy book just for Lieber's comedy take
Dylan Sanchez
WELP
Nathan Jenkins
This "pattern fill layer" approach to Grunge's powers is not working for me.
Colton White
Poppa Fairchild has completely lost his chill his the beach house got nuked.
Lucas Lopez
Jimmy Olsen?
Nathan Powell
123rd and Amsterdam, "one of New York's more dangerous neighborhoods", even in 1999? no fucking way, lol.
Brayden Morris
yeah, 12 issue maxi
James King
Dylan Hughes
Thomas Hughes
crazy how Frank reinvented himself as “serious”
Jacob Thompson
Frank's art is not conducive to making Roxy as cute as she should be.
Isaiah Gonzalez
Kayden Jones
Grunge: truly too stupid to live
Juan Thomas
Ice Cream Man, Redneck, Snotgirl and Gideon Falls are the only comics in the past couple years to care about
Jonathan Morales
Texas + no air conditioning = fucking hell
Benjamin Parker
oh NO
no no no no
Lincoln Sanders
Owen Collins
Nicholas Ross
Is another sad, lonely nerd going to kidnap Caitlyn for breeding purposes?
Logan Allen
it's kind of becoming a thing, isn't it
Josiah Edwards
Dylan Morgan
Genius really
Luis Scott
Why is Jimmy Olsen getting a 12 issue maxiseries? I just now realized how stupid that is.
... Oh fucks sake, there is absolutely going to be an awful crossdressing joke.
Josiah Jenkins
Well, that last panel sure is exploitable.
Logan Turner
Because Silver Age Jimmy is a goldmine of weird shit and if anyone can make it funny now it's Lieber
Alexander Sanchez
Ian Kelly
Benjamin Brown
Jimmy Olsen had an ongoing that lasted like 20 years, and was part of the first run of Fourth World books.
It's also the source of a lot of the classic Silver Age Superdickery.
Also, Jimmy is probably the most famous superhero-adjacent character DC has, which offers all kinds of point of view possibilities in stories.
Ryder Stewart
>
Gen13 should have a series before Jimmy Olsen does
Jacob Baker
go poke Warren Ellis, then
Joshua Butler
...at least it's not like what happened to Wendell, right?
Jayden Hughes
I dunno, the only time crossdressing jokes are reliably funny are dependant on the character. It's either hypermasculine dude is an insecure douche, or the character is actually rockin' the look like a boss. Which, I mean in all fairness, Jimmy did look pretty good in a dress back in the day.
I love how they are completely nonplussed at Kat getting tossed out the damn window. Eh, she'll be fine!
Joshua Fisher
DC is full of idiots, Ellis and his colander brain from alcoholism included
Ethan Diaz
LOL
thanks for reading, back slightly late tomorrow
Christopher Clark
I mean you may as well ask why a bunch of third-rate Spider-Man villains got an ongoing that lasted over two years. Creative shit happens in the weirder books.
And come on man we can laugh at the absurdity of a scrawny, straight, white nerd who unironically wears a bowtie crossdressing against his consent without it being malicious towards actual crossdressers or trans people. Contrasting squares against alternative culture is funny and why Hank Hill lends himself so well to comedy.
Or you could do it like Morrison making Jimmy an ultra confident badass when crossdressing.
Aaron Ross
Thanks op have a good evening
Luke Williams
No, not Grunge's girlfriend!
Thanks for running OP. See you tomorrow.
Robert Nguyen
Thanks for posting as always, Storyteller.
I fucking want to hate this series, but I fucking can't. Especially now that the art no longer sucks. Cause like, by all objective standards, it's been competently put together pretty much since issue 1, and the characters are still likeable and going through tangible development. Every time we visit the 90s, we end up finding hidden-ish gems, but I wanted this one, I wanted just one shitty one to crack on. Fuck.
Noah Long
90's gets a bad rap because of the junk that flooded the shelve for sales purposes. You had a lot of really talented writers coming into the fold while wanting to do something a bit different with superheroes, which is why Wildstorm was such a big success.
I mean yeah, since most of the stuff was conceptualized by the Image cokeheads you start out with a lot of cringey EXTREME concepts, but they were smart enough to hire actual writers to expand on it, including Alan Fucking Moore, and they used the fresh setting to their advantage to do stuff other than "it's the Justice League/Avengers but edgy".
As we all know there was still a lot of people who wanked Watchmen and TDKR for the wrong reasons taking the wrong lessons from it, but you also had a ton of writers reacting against the British invasion folks (including actual Brits) to do stuff slightly more fantastic and lighthearted without going full Silver Age wank with it.
Connor Peterson
I'm looking forward to that
>... Oh fucks sake, there is absolutely going to be an awful crossdressing joke.
Jimmy's already married a multiversal Catwoman (he took her last name), and ruined a hotel room with Dexstar
Adrian Wilson
>Which, I mean in all fairness, Jimmy did look pretty good in a dress back in the day.
and 1990s exercise clothing
Eli Murphy
Sebastian Brooks
Is Roxy aware of Hong Kong cinema enough to know that's somebody's actual name and not Grunge making a dumb fat joke?
Tyler Jones
For a hot second, I thought the girl was Jimmy. It's the kind of bullshit he'd get up to.
Luke Fisher
There's a previous page that I mistook Jimmy for Lana Lang before their names were mentioned.
William Cruz
Never liked Ice Cream Man.
Nathan Perry
Arcudi/Frank is the best and only good Gen13 run. I've never cared for Campbell or Jim Lee and certainly not "Brandon Choi". I liked the story where Grunge is transported into comic book land though but that's it and solely for fanservice reasons.
Arcudi/Frank > Lee/Choi/Campbell/Rio > Lobdell/Benes
Ethan Turner
Adam Warren’s is the best
Jackson Green
I forgot about his run. He tried a middleground between Arcudi and Lobdell and also had the honor of nuking the characters. I'll put him on rank 2 but it was a very uneven run now that I think of it.
Kayden Moore
if you think about it, the only actual bad Gen13 run is Claremont's
Jace Gray
Wasn't Dillon the guy with the Frank faces?
Jackson Miller
si
Liam Baker
It's hard to believe that the guy who turned the mutants into a soup opera didn't wrote a good series about teenanges with superpowers.
Ayden Fisher
Bump
Jeremiah Rivera
What are Grunge powers?
Jose Mitchell
Bitch.
Daniel Reyes
Grunge is a friggin manlet and has a retard face.
Brody Jones
Isn't Fagtion writing that Jimmy Olsen book?
Charles Nelson
Yeah, his run was complete dogshit.
Aaron Diaz
my only frame of reference is his Gen13 so I think he sucks ass, old X-Men is boring
David Hernandez
He can change his body depending on whatever he touches. He touches something metal, his body turns into iron for example. If he touches water, his body turns into water. Etc. Like Rogue, but with, uh, "elements" and he can control it.