How do we solve the CalArts question?

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the cal-art style is the end result of what is 2 decades of animation degradation. in the early 200os you notice a lot of blocky/geometrical designs from the likes of gendy, hartman, mcckracken. i'm not saying their bad but rather the character they created for their shows were fairly simpler compared to the 90s. Over time the new blood took the same approach only to simplify their character even further to what we see here.

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By praising Antoons and moving back to Newgrounds

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I still don't get why they used ice-bear when he never smiles like that

>rememeber that old shit that even the creators updated all their life?
>this is your new god, your new apex, your new perfection. Never try to upgrade and change. The masters where wrong.

Newgrounds is for porn now.

I'm not even sure what like 3 of these mutant Dippers are referencing. Even though they're all clearly "Calarts" they still have their own unique variables that just don't work with one another.

Star, Steven, Gumball
Clarence, Defaul GF, Sands Underfail

Someone made Dippers out of all of their silhouettes.

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If you want to keep spreading misinformation, at least use characters that actually smile like that from the same exact shows, you won't pass for an absolute dipshit.

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UH OH

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We wait for World War 3 to start

Unironically nuke California from orbit.

I was having the hardest time trying to figure out the Star one Jesus Christ.

What mortal man would do something as cursed as this?

>le n-n-n-not on model!
You status = BTFO

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the difference these are randos where as in the west they would pass for protagonist designs.

>proves the point
>btfo lol
Someone put mao mao on there

wow, what a huge fucking difference

you know, it's not even the "calarts style". Out of 8 cartoons posted by OP I know 6 and how do they look is actually the least of their problems. The looks alone would be acceptable but these cartoons are overall dogshit.

calarts pirates! where is anime porco rosso?!

Almost none of them do. This is just spam that's only posted by baiters and the truly ass shattered

>Gumball has a smaller mouth THEREFORE YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID

Is that the best you got?

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Evey age have it's stylistic trend since ever, you can just stop bing a big weenie and wait for this one to be over so you can bitch about the next one

It's not even real but I'm already SEETHING

dude, we talked about this, "CalArts Style" its more about Disney Movies.
If round shapes in heads gives you butthurt, not my problem

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>people still using calarts as a insult

How easy is it to spot a John K fag?

>John K Fag
>in 2019
is that even possible?

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I don't even understand what you're trying to say.

Who? Everyone?

Yes, I know it is sad, but they do exist, are as misinformed as their idol and very vocal.

Sarin.

Mao Mao is similar but not exact. The head is a little different and the mouth with more detail

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I usually associate with Steven Universe with stuff like OP's image but I just feel like people are using it to describe almost any cartoony art style at this point

>tfw looking forward for new episodes of rick and morty, bob's burgers, steven universe, bojack, we bare bears, gumball, the loud house, ok ko, craig of the creek, she-ra, TTG, Summer camp island and so on
>meanwhile nostalgia fags can do nothing but bitch about the new trends and dream about "the good old days"

It feels so good not being stuck in the past. I really hope all of you can grow past that grumpy old man phase you are having.

Just watch cartoon that aren't made by the exact same two companies.

I remember that user who refered to Carmen fucking San Diego as "calarts"

spbp, this, etc.

You don't need money to pitch a show.

I find it weird how nobody is saying you should make your own show, it's a bunch of hopeless anons being all angry at the world for not changing right away.

Just make your own damn catoons if you're craving to not see that calarts face. Yeah it won't end it for good but you can create stuff that isn't the calarts face which is a breath of fresh air to see.

But hey, it won't get attention therefore it's worthless right? Because things are only valued when stranger pay attention to them, right?

Fuck off and live a happy life, you sexy people

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>lots of time
You have 60 years faggot.
>lots of manpower
If a single korean can pump out 6 shows in a day, you can do one that you actually care about
>money
Stocks, saving, throw away job or you pirate software and hand draw shit.

There is a path but you just want to cry on a forum that's 50% neets, 30% pedophiles, 10% mentally challenged, and 10% children.

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And yes you can make your own cartoons, you can get the programs to do it like flash/animate and clip studio and blender and even SFM.

It is still calarts, it does not matters if it is pointy or whatever, if it is so simple and so geometric it is calarts.

Everything is calarts, the only thing that isn't calarts is anime
Just watch anime, it's superior

By hiring french artists instead of americans

>make your own cartoons
Lmao that’s some dismissive cope you got there

>anime, it's superior
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>French artists
we're trying to make cartoons, we dont want everything to be porn or weird esoteric art porn

I don't believe it but you anons do

at least for a while it won't be boring

the problem is not the art style, it's the overuse of it

The funny thing is even with the absolute repetitive garbage of calarts style i can distinguish each show
Every single anime looks the same to the point characters are impossible to identify

Would you prefer if Klasky Csupo cartoons still ran rampant instead?

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Audience should boycott those Calart shits but I don’t believe it will happen

This is quite the exaggeration.

Watch Amphibia. Not a bean to be seen

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But Anne is a bean. A cute little bean.

I'd trust John K's opinions on animation over yours, faggo.

Yes cute. I want to flick her little bean she's so cute.

That's kind of the point though, they are supposed to be drawn people and not cartoons, Anime was born because Japs sucked at non KaijuLive Action so they tried to Emulate western movies and series with drawings instead and they nailed it, before that they were making stuff like Maya the Bee and Kimba which were pretty toon-like.

By shutting this website down.

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A numbskull retard actually made this with the intention of it being taken seriously. Jesus christ.

The frog mayor has calarts head

CalArts aint so bad

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Gumball is great tho, it has an incredible charm to it and it's very clear that the people who make it have fun doing so.

This is the exception that proves the rule

>Spoon people with noodle arms

That's not much better.

Probably
I'll always say it's fucking unfair Gumball is "dumped" in those asinine complaints about so-called CalArts,if there is one show that put a lot of efforts into displaying varied forms of animations,it's fucking Gumball, i mean it's a mish-mash of puppetry,traditional, 3D and stop motion animation.Do the guy who made his meme just googled Gumball the cat and never bothered to watch the show ? I mean there is probably some issues people take with Gumball but implicitly calling it "lazy,uninspired animation" is ignorant at best or actively dishonest

You expect channers to be nuanced ?

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Frankly? Watch more Villainous. Watch the shows that don't follow that artistic formula.

its a shame villainous follows the same writing formula
and has poor designwork in it too, its just differently bad

>liking any of these shows
Shouldn't you not be on Yea Forums, normalfag?

I don't watch cartoons so I don't care.

make everything for the next 10 years with enough sharp geometric shapes to make a 5th grade math teacher cry

that or we bite the insanity bullet and worship seth mcfarlane as the modern walt disney

Anybody who resorts to CalArts style has their show cancelled. Problem solved.

And how will you go about making that a reality exactly?

You have no power over me,channer tard

They don't look the same. The problem is you, not anime.

Japanese cinema was very respected in the 20th century and the creation of anime had nothing to do with compensating for supposed flaws in live action. Maya is from 1975 while the first anime is from 1963, and even that was already different from cartoons despite having similar looking characters.

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It's not difficult to grasp. Every character has a model sheet that reflects how they look including size, proportions, etc, etc, and this is tied into the overall animation style of the show. However, every artist has their own style(s) that will start to show no matter how hard they try to stay on-model. Normally this wouldn't be that much of a problem unless you are too cheap, too lazy, or too woke to do proper quality control.

All pretty based advices, just needs one point about teaming up with others. Somethings are just too hard to do all by yourself, but finding few other autists you can make miracles.

You're not refuting the picture.

Sans Undertale, formerly known as Dipper

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>How do we solve the CalArts question?
Give it a decade and it will solve itself.
And with that I mean it will stop being a problem when burguerland society finally collapses in itself and explodes in a civil war.

Dipper After Not Surviving

This is an animation series developed by an independent team:
youtube.com/watch?v=T2oa3C7paQM

Too many in the West try to do everything alone, which only works if you are really talented.

You can't

>still has beanface

This. Just look at how well Alt Hero is thriving

>not sure if genuine or sarcasm

Was Yea Forums this upset when most cartoons tended to be anime-esque

yes

>they are actuall show from the front view instead of calart picasso perspective.

truth make you laugh? why?

Let’s just clarify, does it make a show “cal arts” just for having a cheek to offset the circular shape of a head?

>noodle arms
>the joints are clearly visible

Your example is an exception, not the rule. We’re talking about the average anime, not the few that stand out

Gumball’s Animation also got worse as it went on, especially the shading

Alt Hero was the solution to liberal comics that everyone here was begging for

Even the average anime has visual differences and it's not the fault of anime that you're unable or unwilling to see them. There are many anime with a very distinctive look to them, not just a rare few.

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>Your example is an exception,
no, you fucking fanatical retard.

>"i cant stand politics in muh cartoon"-channers in 2016

The answer is Williams Syndrome

1-small,cherry picked selection
2-movies are included in this, which does not apply to television
3- the years are vastly spread out, leaving to an unfair sample. This would be like adding 70’s Hanna Barbera with modern cartoons to disprove cal arts
4-no one says every anime looks like sailor moon, which still had a standard shojou aethestic

More exceptions rather than average. Try grabbing screens from one of the many non-notable shows each year that only the true weebs remember

>1-small,cherry picked selection
Of course it's cherry picked. It has the specific purpose of demonstrating the varied art styles of anime.

>2-movies are included in this, which does not apply to television
That makes no difference.

>3- the years are vastly spread out
Also makes no difference.

>4-no one says every anime looks like sailor moo
Yes, because that was exactly the main point this image was trying to make. It was all about whether or not all anime looks like Sailor Moon. Specifically Sailor Moon. That's what it was all about all along. You are a genius.

>Try grabbing screens from one of the many non-notable shows each year that only the true weebs remember
Try actually watching and comprehending anime before getting involved in debates over it. Anyone who has seriously watched anime knows that it has many major and minor variations in character design, color design, art design and storyboarding. But all you know is memes. And what does the notability or non-notability of shows have to do with anything?

Everyone wants to debate anime but nobody wants to watch it.

God it's so cathartic to see how much this fails to disprove the meme.

I as a consumer don't give a shit in which style a show is animated, as long as the overall direction of the story is good enough.

fire ants

Not that user but your arguments literally just amounted to nothing more than "nuh uh"

Cherry picking is an issue in any data spread, choosing both tv and movie animation is not really a fair due to budgetary differences, and the amount of eras you chose certainly makes a huge difference on which stylistic choices you can draw from.

Why do people always like this? No matter what I say, someone claims that all I really said was "nuh uh." Why do you do this?

>Cherry picking is an issue in any data spread
This isn't a scientific study.

>choosing both tv and movie animation is not really a fair due to budgetary differences
The budget makes no difference and TV anime usually has more detailed drawings than movies.

>the amount of eras you chose certainly makes a huge difference on which stylistic choices you can draw from.
It makes no difference.

Why do you people try to debate anime when you refuse to watch it? What makes you behave this way? What is wrong with you?

I'm myopic as well.

>>the amount of eras you chose certainly makes a huge difference on which stylistic choices you can draw from.
>It makes no difference.
Literally "nuh-uh" without even so much as a reasoning behind it lmao. Not even the same guy, by the way.

I have watched at least 5 episodes of every anime every seasons for the last 15 years, there is definitely a generic look that applies to about 80%, even worse than the calarts issue, most people just forget about those shows because they’re usually crap.

>I have watched at least 5 episodes of every anime every seasons for the last 15 years.
And now we move to the inevitable stage of the thread where you start lying about your experience so your bullshit appears more credible.

You gave no reason why the eras would matter.

The “calarts” bean head has only been around for roughly 15 years. Similarly, the basic style of most anime has changed. You can tell if it was the 80’s, 90’s, or mid 2000’s just by looking at line thickness and eyeball size a majority of the time. So by mixing eras, you give s false implication that anime is exempt from having contemporary styles. Which is not true. Like previously stated, you could use your logic to claim Calarts heads do not exist by showing, Jabber Jaw, Dexter’s Lab, Denver The Last Dinosaur, and Teenage Robot next to each other in panels like your image. But, like your image, this would be incredibly dishonest.

Also, the difference between movies and tv does matter because the movies you picked were not originally tv anime, they exist in a different industry altogether. They’re motion pictures that happen to be animated. That would be like using Prince of Egypt as an example of calarts not existing

user didn't have to because the quotation already had the damn reason why it mattered.

God your dense

By telling you to fuck yourself.

>art styles don't matter in this discussion regarding art styles as they developed through time
Holy shit, how can you be so wrong and still defend shitty anime?

> You can tell if it was the 80’s, 90’s, or mid 2000’s just by looking at line thickness and eyeball size a majority of the time.
We can tell such things, but you cannot. Seeing as how you don't watch anime and can't tell things apart from each other. Stop larping.

>So by mixing eras, you give s false implication that anime is exempt from having contemporary styles.
I never said it doesn't have any contemporary styles.

>Also, the difference between movies and tv does matter because the movies you picked were not originally tv anime
I did not pick anything and I told you already why this doesn't matter.

>they exist in a different industry altogether
No they do not.

> They’re motion pictures that happen to be animated.
You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

Why do you people act this way? Why do you debate anime without ever seeing it? Why do you lie about your experiences? Why? Why? Why?

I am not wrong. What shitty anime have I defended and in what manner?

You know these are the joke characters.....we have normal characters (the one sitting in the middle) and semi normal(the Hitler lookalike.)

Its more energetic then your average Calarts so this might be a evolution.

>I am not wrong
>artstyles don't matter
You literally are.

I never said art styles don't matter.

Calarts is good in motion, but terrible for more slower shows.

>Calarts is good in motion
no

Calarts can be good if the motion is good and directed well(Mao Mao, Gravity falls) but when its used only to cheapen even the most monday actions is bad.

Ok, let’s play this game then.
Excuse the shitty screencap, I’m not home atm.
This is the Summer 2019 season. You cannot honestly look at this and claim there isn’t some same face going on with a few of these, and the ones that are different actually match with other shows in the list, leading to almost nothing that looks truly unique.
Since you’ve already hit retard mode, here is a link to the actual list so you ca it claim I faked it
myanimelist.net/anime/season

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Lmao, dumb weeb.

That’s what held star back. The character design worked, but the animation was extremely minimal

Sameface is a meme. As expected from someone who doesn't watch anime. And of course like all people who don't watch anime your proof (for whatever it is you're claimi g) consists of a chart for the upcoming season. It's always the upcoming season, never the current or previous one. It's always better to use the next season because nobody's seen it yet.

I'm not dumb or a weeb and you have no proof to the contrary.

The film and tv animation industry is extremely different. They’re monetized differently, have massively different production lengths(do you truly think Redline would have existed as a show with its 7 year production cycle?) and they serve difference audiences.
The tv audience watching anime at 3 A.M. in Japan is not the exact same audience that will go out to a theatre to watch it. Why do you think Ghibli gets to pretend it’s the Japanese Disney?

>teaming up with others
Aaaaand that's where things fall apart.
A lot of people here are quiet talented, but good luck getting enough of them together AND wanting to help each other out.
Plus, a lot of people are just either really shy or antisocial and would rather not risk others interfering with their work.

Learn how to make a proper argument you autistic weeb.
That or learn how troll properly. Because even if this was a troll attempt. It’s done extremely badly

You are talking about completely irrelevant factors and you are doing it on purpose and I already told you that TV anime usually have more complicated character designs than movies. Stop larping, stop trying to argue about something you know nothing about. Just stop.

>Why do you think Ghibli gets to pretend it’s the Japanese Disney?
It isn't pretending any such thing.

I did make proper arguments and you have no evidence that I'm autistic or a weeb. You are resorting to randomly accusing me of being these things because you yourself have no arguments and already lost the debate.

Calarts is to Yea Forums what onions is to /fit/; it's meaningless shit.

>the average anime
m8 that image is cherrypicked as fuck, those are not "average anime"
get a handful of screenshots from anime all released in the same year and then we'll talk

We already went over this. Read the thread

Here’s a thought then. Start an animation studio with a simple website to allow for resumes, then come here and say that you’re looking to recruit crew members to make s new show, but say that the show itself would be created by meetings with said crew. That way you can get the interest of user’s who would want to offer their talents and input.
You could even offer basic pay or just say you’ll cover supplies. I guarantee you could fund a decent pilot with a small team of Yea Forums talent for like $3,000(mainly to give everyone the software and possibly for midrange tablets).

>those are not "average anime"
All concurrently running during the season. All produced and premiered this year or the one before. All based on manga or "original scripts" (aka recycled premises). What's so not average about them?

>aka recycled premises
Anime is more varied than American TV.

>How do we solve the CalArts question
It's not that fucking hard. Don't watch the shows and support kino like this.

youtube.com/watch?v=KK541L5x_IY

rule what?

What is there to refute?

I already know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but we need more 3D animation. Bean-mouth and noodle-limbs is as common as it is because the really simple style is cheap to animate. And it doesn't need to be some generic Disney/Pixar style, a show could just as easily look like Transformers Devastation, Wind Waker, or virtually any other style. With 3D you can have more variety in style and more detail because more assets can be recycled, animations be shown at different angles or mixed to get far more out of them than with a 2D animation, physics simulations, motion capture and things like forward or inverse kinematics can take some of the burden off of the animators. Even generic props like soda cans can be used across multiple shows to milk as much out of the budget as possible.

Because that's what this is really all about; budget.

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Most anime is just high school shenanigans painted over with a coat of supernatural. There really isn't that much of an impressive line up once you burn through the classics.

>Because that's what this is really all about; budget.
Is it really? Even with Korean contractors and very simplistic art and storyboarding, the budgets are at least twice as much as Japan's. 3D animation is more expensive anyway, even if it seems like it shouldn't be.

High school is a setting and can be used to tell almost any kind of story and it is not the only setting found in anime. Anime is extremely varied, more varied than American television. But only the few people who have bothered watching more than a couple of baby's first anime are aware of this.

>High school is a setting and can be used to tell almost any kind of story
This is your brain on anime.

It's my brain on facts. It is a setting and it can be used to tell almost any kind of story. You can't argue against this.

>high school
>it can be used to tell almost any kind of story
By definition I can't place the story anywhere else, write any character that isn't a high schooler or a teacher, and the only adult topics I could barely talk about is teenage sex and high school shit.

Show me your favorite anime. It'll be a high school romance thing with mild hints of supernatural shit. I can almost guarantee it.

>Unoronically defending school setting anime which clutters up 90'% of the medium
It's also funny how you said any kind of story can be told with that setting becauase most don't take advantage of whatever baseless opportunities you claimed it has. I've seen too many to know. You also say it's not the only setting yet I bet you I can name more shows with that setting than you could with anything else. i'll even add onto the argument by saying a disgustingly large percentage of these "school setting shows" also mainly feature a samey looking male protagonist who lacks any personality or a real motivation to do what he does other than copying the same one-note characteristics as every protagonist of it's kind. This "variety" you speak of is so incredible small and overshadowed by reality.

I always thought high school was reused location in anime because
1. Anime's main demographic are Japanese teens in high school
And
2. Anime studios have made so much background art if high schools that it just makes sense to reuse art for other projects.

in this one he's making a fsjal face

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Zombie apocalypse. Sports. Cooking. Mystery. Drama. Psychological drama. Romance. Music. Slice of life. Mecha. Harem. Magical girl. Any of these genres can be and have been set in school.

>Show me your favorite anime. It'll be a high school romance thing with mild hints of supernatural shit. I can almost guarantee it.
You think you can guarantee this because you don't know anything about anime and just go by what you read on the internet, or you saw one anime somewhere and just assumed it represent all anime. Some of my favorites don't even have male characters in them.

I am defending it and I have the right to defend it and I have no reason not to defend it.

>It's also funny how you said any kind of story can be told with that setting becauase most don't take advantage of whatever baseless opportunities you claimed it has.
See >I've seen too many to know.
You haven't seen shit.

>You also say it's not the only setting yet I bet you I can name more shows with that setting than you could with anything else.
I never said it isn't a common setting, I said it isn't the only setting.

>a samey looking male protagonist who lacks any personality or a real motivation to do what he does other than copying the same one-note characteristics as every protagonist of it's kind
Meme.

>This "variety" you speak of is so incredible small and overshadowed by reality.
You don't know anything about anime.

>Bug's smile clearly has sharp edges and forshortens
>Beanface

>this entire post is one big "no u"
If you're not going to argue, give up.

>Is it really? Even with Korean contractors and very simplistic art and storyboarding, the budgets are at least twice as much as Japan's.
And yet we still manage to get crap that looks as bad as Steven Universe. Managing the budget is also as important as the amount.

>3D animation is more expensive anyway, even if it seems like it shouldn't be.
The upfront cost is greater, modeling, texturing, rigging, creating environments, etc. but the longer a series goes on, the cheaper it should be to make because there's more assets to pull from. Western shows like Spongebob, Gumball, Steven Universe, etc. would work fine in 3D since there are only so many characters and settings, while a show like Berserk was a nightmare, both because the people involved had no clue what they were doing, but because outside of the main cast the characters and setting is constantly changing.

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>Any of these genres can be and have been set in school.
And guess what? It's still a show about high schoolers doing high schooler things. The zombies, the horror, the supernatural I described? It's scenery, sometimes even less. The depth you're implying by virtue of its genre just isn't there.

>this entire post is one big "no u"
No it wasn't. You don't even know what that means.

Also here's at least a partial list of shows from this and the past season that do not take place in school (maybe one or two do, I haven't watched all of them): One Punch Man, Attack on Titan, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Bungou Stray Dogs, Senko-san, Fairy Gone, Carole & Tuesday, Gunjou no Magmell, Shoumetsu Toshi, Mayonaka no Occult Koumuin, Hangyakusei Million Arthur, Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari, Yakusoku no Neverland, Dororo, Boogiepop wa Warawanai, Girly Air Force, Grimms Notes The Animation, Egao no Daika, Kouya no Kotobuki Hikoutai, Meiji Tokyo Renka, W'z, Kemurikusa, Pastel Memories, Kemono Friends, Bermuda Triangle.

you'll take it and you'll like it, Yea Forumsnsumers.

funny how all the same people who go to /pol/ and post "capitalism is the perfect system" on /pol/ come to Yea Forums and post "how dare these people make cheap animation for profit?" well, that's what the perfect system produces. now go start pounding the pavement, because you need a third job to pay for your insulin now.

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>It's still a show about high schoolers doing high schooler things.
It's about high schoolers doing various things. High school is a setting that can be used for almost any story.

>The zombies, the horror, the supernatural I described? It's scenery, sometimes even less.
How exactly is it "scenery"?

>The depth you're implying by virtue of its genre just isn't there.
What "depth" do you think I was talking about?

MODS BAN UNDERAGE ANIMEFAGS

Communists are the worst
We'd get like 2 shorts at most a year btw

>It's about high schoolers doing various things
Christ, even going by the first sub-genre you mentioned, HotD was nothing more than high school tits and romance with some mild zombie tropes here and there. I read and watched that shit. It is virtually the same as any other high school anime. Down to the tropes, the archetypes, the twists. There just isn't that much to admire.

>How exactly is it "scenery"?
By being nothing but background noise for otherwise high school related issues (relationships and crushes during a fucking zombie apocalypse lmao).

>What "depth" do you think I was talking about?
The so-called depth of high school-themed cartoons.

>kill them! kill them all, it's my orders! moddddssss this is mmmyy sittttteeeee

>I have no rebuttal for breaking the rules so I'll make him look entitled

What rule? discussing cartoons on Yea Forums? Also mods aren't your army, you are the one calling for a ban, if you like rules that much, you can fuck off, because you are against them.

I wasn't even talking about HotD, I was talking about Gakkou Gurashi.

>I read and watched that shit. It is virtually the same as any other high school anime.
Which means you didn't read or watch that shit, or you only read or watched that shit and nothing else. Obviously it isn't the same kind of anime as, say, K-On.

>By being nothing but background noise for otherwise high school related issues
Oh yeah, the tank battles in Girls und Panzer are surely just background noise for high school related issues, even though fighting and preparing for the battles takes up nearly all screen time.

>The so-called depth of high school-themed cartoons.
They aren't cartoons, and high school is a setting that can be used to tell almost any kind of story. There are countless stories set in high school and I didn't start talking about the depth of the story of any of them.

>I wasn't even talking about HotD, I was talking about Gakkou Gurashi.
That's my point. They're all the same shit.

>the tank battles in Girls und Panzer are surely just background noise for high school related issues
They literally are, you dumb weeb. There's a reason you're not watching tank enthusiasts on YouTube or your average WWII documentary on tanks and shit. You're watching it because there's high school girls going through high school drama and one of them is your waifu. You couldn't give less of a shit about the actual tanks, and people would look at you funny for implying your interest is just as genuine.

>They aren't cartoons
Lmao

Except Gakkou Gurashi is nothing like HotD, you are just assuming that it is. GG doesn't even have male characters.

Do these suggest the same show to you:
youtube.com/watch?v=UNjHxhljAck
youtube.com/watch?v=TQwQMeb-44g

You are allowed to do basic research before posting you know.

>They literally are, you dumb weeb.
They literally aren't and you have NO proof that I'm dumb or a weeb, you just make up claims at random and pray that I won't respond to them.

Girls und Panzer is all about the tank battles. It's a sports series. It has barely any scenes set in class rooms. There's no male characters. There's no romance. There's no drama to speak of.

>There's a reason you're not watching tank enthusiasts on YouTube or your average WWII documentary on tanks and shit. You're watching it because there's high school girls going through high school drama
Youtube videos and documentaries about tanks are not equivalent to GuP and it doesn't say anywhere that someone can't watch all of them. GuP DVDS even comes with videos explaining the history, design and features of all the tanks used in the series.

>and one of them is your waifu
Show me evidence for this claim and explain its relevance.

>You couldn't give less of a shit about the actual tanks, and people would look at you funny for implying your interest is just as genuine.
Even if we suppose that I am not interested in the tanks themselve, so what? What are you trying to argue?

>Lmao
They aren't cartoons and you cannot prove otherwise. Countless people have tried, they've all failed. You won't be any different.

Everyone wants to debate anime, nobody wants to watch anime.

>They literally are, you dumb weeb. There's a reason you're not watching tank enthusiasts on YouTube or your average WWII documentary on tanks and shit. You're watching it because there's high school girls going through high school drama and one of them is your waifu. You couldn't give less of a shit about the actual tanks, and people would look at you funny for implying your interest is just as genuine.
Another user, but that's pretty retarded argument. Do you use that same argument for people who watch ww2 movies in general?
>oh why aren't they watching documentaries instead of some hollywood war hero stories?
Wouldn't be surprised if you did, but that just means you're pretty undeveloped in understanding basic storytelling.

>Do you use that same argument for people who watch ww2 movies in general?
Yes? The interest is obviously focused somewhere else. That'd be like grouping WWII enthusiasts and veterans with fans of Saving Private Ryan. It's the difference between linking film buffs and people who actually served. What am I to assume about the guy watching underage girls talk about crushes because he kinda sorta likes the ridiculously choreographed and apocryphal tank battles? His interest on the tanks isn't genuine by any metric. And he's definitely not watching it just because of the tanks.

>but that just means you're pretty undeveloped in understanding basic storytelling.
Because I can point out the differences between real history, fictionalized accounts of real life battles and an anime show about high school girls running around in fantasy tanks, plus the underlying interests that can motivate someone to watch any of these? Okay, weeb.

>watching underage girls talk about crushes because he kinda sorta likes the ridiculously choreographed and apocryphal tank battles
They don't talk about crushes. There are no male characters in the show. There is no romance. Almost all of its time is devoted to fighting or preparing for tank battles. The movie is 30 minutes of battles, 30 minutes of story, and an hour of battles.

>His interest on the tanks isn't genuine by any metric
I have a passing interest in tanks and played War Thunder for a while. But even if I don't have an interest in tanks, so what? Why do I need to have an interest in them?

>high school girls running around in fantasy tanks
They're real WW2 tanks.

You have no clue what GuP even is yet you are feverishly arguing about its every detail. You are an absolute fucking moron.

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Well what is there to complain about?

>Sameface
>Same story
>Same tropes
>Hair that emotes
Myazaki is a fucking one truck pony that just happens to do that one trick obscenely well.

>One production studio has a defined look
>Multiple different production studios all have the same define look
Learn to differentiate

These are all memes. You've never seen his movies.

>Almost all of its time is devoted to fighting or preparing for tank battles. The movie is 30 minutes of battles, 30 minutes of story, and an hour of battles.
Lmao, I'm sure they never go full KYAAA~ kawaii mode. At all. Do you think I haven't watched clips of this shit? Or do you think you're doing yourself a favor by embellishing your tank anime?

>But even if I don't have an interest in tanks, so what?
Then maybe you shouldn't claim your interest is just as genuine as the veterans reliving their most harrowing moments. Especially when talking about fucking underage girl-themes anime. But of course a dumb weeb is also a dumb gamer. What are the odds?

>They're real WW2 tanks.
Apocryphally driven by underage anime girls, yes. Come the fuck on, man. Stop implying it's just like Fury or a Ken Burns documentary. You come off as a massive autist.

this probably has more to do with people complaining about Disney movies looking the same, since the same people usually worship Ghibli.

I never said there isn't anything cute about it. What is your point?

>Do you think I haven't watched clips of this shit?
Well, I'm willing to believe that just now you went on youtube to look up some clips in the hopes that you can cobble together some kind of argument. Naturally you have never seen the show itself as evidenced by your total ignorance of it.

>Or do you think you're doing yourself a favor by embellishing your tank anime?
How am I embellishing it?

>Then maybe you shouldn't claim your interest is just as genuine as the veterans reliving their most harrowing moments.
Where was I comparing myself to or otherwise talking about WW2 veterans?

>Especially when talking about fucking underage girl-themes anime.
Why are you people so obsessed with the idea of "underage" characters?

>But of course a dumb weeb is also a dumb gamer. What are the odds?
Prove that I'm dumb. Prove that I'm a weeb. Explain why me playing video games is supposed to be an argument against me.

>Apocryphally driven by underage anime girls, yes.
Because it's a light-hearted show set in an alternate universe where mock tank battles are a girls' sport, and nobody claimed otherwise.

>Stop implying it's just like Fury or a Ken Burns documentary.
Where were such implications made?

>You come off as a massive autist.
1. Define autism correctly.
2. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism.
3. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism anonymously over the internet.
4. Perform a diagnosis based only on what I have previously written.
5. Explain why it would make any difference whether or not I have autism.

And 6, stop fucking trying to argue about shit you have absolutely no clue about.

I've seen a good chunk of his films and they're pretty much all the same. The only one worth watching is Princess Mononke because it's the one that does his tropes best.

Shit even his adaptations have to deviate from the original stories presented just to make room for his retarded tropes like how he basically ruined Howls Moving Castle and the Borrowers.

You haven't seen them, because if you had seen them then you'd of course know that they aren't the same.

>The only one worth watching is Princess Mononke because it's the one that does his tropes best.
Yeah, like flying which is one of his most obvious trademarks yet entirely absent from Mononoke.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_California_Institute_of_the_Arts_people

Everyone with a brain needs to scroll down to the "School of Film/Video" section and look who's in there. Paul Tibbit, Craig McCracken, Genndy Tartakosvky, Brad Bird, Lauren Faust, Butch Hartman, Thurop van Ormen, all of these people are from CalArts, and with the exception of Thurop, they all share some things in common, mainly angular or rounded, UPA influenced, thick outlined art styles. Many of them worked on the same shows together (Dexter's Lab and Powerpuff girls specifically), and were inspired by each other. Guess what happened to Pendelton Ward, J.G. Quintel, and Alex Hirsh? They've all worked on the exact same show together, Flapjack. Your problem is that you've noticed CalArts alumni have a similar art style now, instead of when you were children. Hell, people complained about this in the past, but we didn't care, because the majority of us didn't even know about the complaints.

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How about we take some influence from our past traditional artist such as walt disney himself. watch the first 5 minutes of 101 dalmatians and see how much motion pong has.

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We are aiming at TV animation, not film animation. Unless we go back to the 7 minute short anthology with a high budget, we aren't going to have a standard of film tier animation on TV as the norm.

By letting Mexicans take over the industry

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Holy shit this board cannot talk anime and manga without spilling its spaghetti all over the place.

Okay, it’s pretty clear you’re a moron who has nothing to contribute to this thread. Go someplace where your idiocy is more tolerated.

New fav confirmed.
When people call it “calarts” it’s not because it’s assumed that only people from Calarts use this style, a good portion of the SU team didn’t go there and that show is a regular offender.
It’s called calarts because it’s an art style the industry pushes, just like calarts is the school the industry pushes.
Calarts is a shitty school and it should be synonymous with shitty art

What is it with people and deciding that the only reason someone can have a issue with something is because they either didn’t watch/hear/play/try/do it or they didn’t understand it?
Why can’t people just accept that everything has flaws of some kind and those flaws may or may not be a deal breaker to others?
This isn’t really directed at anyone, but that autistic weeb failing to defend anime has really got me reflecting on that

I have not failed at all and completely blew the fuck out that idiot complaining about a show he's never seen and knows nothing about. But you have failed to prove that I have autism or that I'm a weeb.

The fact is that almost nobody has seen any anime beyond maybe a few of the really popular ones and almost all criticism of anime is false and based on shit someone heard somewhere.

>I never said there isn't anything cute about it
In a show about tanks. That's why I'm mocking it. Understanding the context of the words you're quoting is part of building an argument.

>Prove that I'm dumb
You watch little anime girls on tanks go at it like it isn't the stupidest thing in the world. There.

Why can't there be anything cute in it just because it's about tanks? You aren't making any argument here.

>You watch little anime girls on tanks go at it like it isn't the stupidest thing in the world. There.
They aren't little girls and it isn't a stupid show and there isn'y anything wrong with watching it. You haven't even seen it nor do you know even basic things about it. You are a fucking retard who can't argue and who keeps making wild claims left and right and then drops most of them after realizing they're completely worthless.

>Why can't there be anything cute in it just because it's about tanks?
Because tanks weren't designed to be ridden by anime girls doing kawaii things, you unrepentant moron. They were designed to kill war combatants. The very juxtaposition of these two clashing imageries is what makes it such a stupid premise, so much so that it relies entirely on making dumb weebs like you fall in love with the girls. The tanks are completely superfluous.

>They aren't little girls
But they are. It's their appeal. You're not watching seasoned, mature anime women fight their way through fictionalized war campaigns, because that's not the appeal and you know it. You like watching the anime kawaii girls because they look cute on the tanks and even cuter on your shelf. Please stop pretending you should share oxygen with legit enthusiasts.

Aww man it's been years. Good stuff.

You e failed by proving everyone’s point,
>Nobody has seen any anime except maybe the popular ones
Bitch, this is the internet and nobody had a life. I can 1000% guarantee you every single person in this thread has seen more anime than any normal person should. You just can’t accept that you’re an idiot. I can only assume you don’t know how to talk to people

It's too late now, cartoons died in 2009

Yeah, I bet they have fun, but their sense of humour is on par with an unaware child playing with dog turds. It's not great, it's pathetic.

Just a general rule of thumb, if you have to demand people to “prove” something about you, that means you’ve lost, regardless of what it is.
And anyone who is capable of sperging our like you have is definitely autistic. And if that wasn’t the giveaway, the fact that you immediately went to the tank shit, possibly the most autistic community on the internet, proves it even more. Add tanks and anime sperging and you have a mega autist

I'm not new at all actually, I'm just tired of seeing these damn threads.

This! I swear the writers played mad libs for a majority of the jokes since they all fall through metrics like:
>yeah, I see what you did there, but came out like X”
>you went for X, and ended with Y”
>it’s like [noun] went through [verb] and became [adjective]

Clearly you having seen enough of them if you think the school itself or the artists from it were why it gets the name.
Believe me when I say a good portion of the industry actively despised Calarts. I once saw an entire room full of Disney animation staff boo at the mere mention of it during a keynote

Kind of. I didn't see much of gumball, I couldn't even watch one full episode because the cancerous radiation coming from my screen was too powerful but from what I recall it was pretty much like that

I watched the entirety of it(the finale has like 1 minute dedicated to it being a finale btw).
It had a few good jokes, but those were heaving spread out over the 5 seasons(no good jokes in season 6 whatsoever).
But seeing as Ben is a severe alcoholic who’s own crew members have stated can’t write comedy, that isn’t too hard to believe

Aka DANS

>Because tanks weren't designed to be ridden by anime girls doing kawaii things, you unrepentant moron
Are you a moron or are you unable to distinguish between fiction and reality? Either way you are arguing that fiction must adhere 100% to reality, which is totally retarded.

Guns aren't designed to shoot 30 bullets when the mag only holds 15 but guess what action movies are always doing?

>The very juxtaposition of these two clashing imageries is what makes it such a stupid premise, so much so that it relies entirely on making dumb weebs like you fall in love with the girls.
Reminder that you STILL have given not even a single shred of evidence to show that I'm a weeb. You are a retard who can't back up his claims.

>The tanks are completely superfluous.
Total bullshit as I've already told you, and which you can do nothing to argue against both because you are factually wrong and because you've never seen the show at all.

>But they are.
They are in high school, but of course you were unaware of this since you know nothing about the show.

>You're not watching seasoned, mature anime women fight their way through fictionalized war campaigns, because that's not the appeal and you know it.
It's almost as if different stories are about different things. Whoa.

>You like watching the anime kawaii girls because they look cute on the tanks and even cuter on your shelf.
Explain what is wrong with wanting to look at cute girls.

>Please stop pretending you should share oxygen with legit enthusiasts.
Show me where I have presented myself as a tank enthuasiast. Explain why I should be one in order to watch this show.

Or better yet KILL YOURSELF. Holy shit. You have spent hours arguing every fucking minute detail of a show YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE.

Can you cut the “show evidence” crap you fucking retard?

Extremely few people have any substantial anime experience. Even on Yea Forums. Even on Yea Forums.

>You just can’t accept that you’re an idiot.
You cannot argue against me at all so this is what you must resort to. Because you are an idiot.

If you make an accusation against someone and can't prove it, it means YOU have lost.

>And anyone who is capable of sperging our like you have is definitely autistic
1. Define autism correctly.
2. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism.
3. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism anonymously over the internet.
4. Perform a diagnosis based only on what I have previously written.
5. Explain why it would make any difference whether or not I have autism.

>the fact that you immediately went to the tank shit
I simply mentioned it as one possible example in refutation of the claim that the topic of any high school anime is just background noise.

No I can't, fucking retard. If you don't like it, stop making claims you can't back up.

What would you consider “substantial anime experience”

>define autism correctly
You

Anime sameface is not a meme, there's even a Japanese word for it, 判子絵 (hankoe), just google search this term and you'll find a lot of people complaining about it.

>Are you a moron or are you unable to distinguish between fiction and reality?
I'm making a distinction between the appeal that leads to a grown man watching cute anime girls fight in tanks and people who legitimately may have an interest in tanks and warfare. You're not watching it for the tanks. Please stop pretending the appeal is based on how wacky the juxtaposition is, when you've done nothing but defend the little girls handling death machines specifically designed to sell figurines. It's embarrasing. Even GI Combat's Haunted Tank had more dignity.

Stop shitting up the thread, which is all you have done

Yo, Ryan, stop being so autistic.
Choi

>Extremely few people have any substantial anime experience. Even on Yea Forums. Even on Yea Forums
This is the nuclear autism we've been talking about, user. You know, the one you keep confounding with fandom.

It is a meme because it almost never happens yet is claimed to be an epidemic.

You are making a false dichotomy. Someone can be interested in both, but they don't have to be interested in both. You have given no reason why someone has to be interested specifically in tanks in order to watch this show. You are also conviniently ignoring the fact that GuP is a sports show and can be enjoyed as such.

>You're not watching it for the tanks. Please stop pretending the appeal is based on how wacky the juxtaposition is,
Show me where I said I'm watching for the tanks. Show me where I was pretending that the appeal is based on juxtaposition.

>you've done nothing but defend the little girls handling death machines specifically designed to sell figurines
They aren't little girls and merchandise is a retarded americlapper bogeyman. There is nothing wrong with merchandise and the fact that it exists doesn't mean that every possible decision in anime somehow revolves around it. It's a non-issue and you are neurotic.

I did not start this and I am not the one perpetuating this ridiculous GuP argument. Stop shifting blame.

1. Define autism correctly.
2. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism.
3. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism anonymously over the internet.
4. Perform a diagnosis based only on what I have previously written.
5. Explain why it would make any difference whether or not I have autism.

1. Define autism correctly.
2. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism.
3. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism anonymously over the internet.
4. Perform a diagnosis based only on what I have previously written.
5. Explain why it would make any difference whether or not I have autism.

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Good old days.

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>Someone can be interested in both
And I'm telling you that the appeal of a bunch of anime girls fighting in tanks relies entirely on the cute anime girls and not the tanks. It doesn't matter how interested you are in both. It shows a clear misconception of war, tanks and their appeal towards enthusiasts, vets and the like. You couldn't possibly pass this as a war series or even a young adult series, because the tanks aren't even 1% of the reason you watch it.

I can assure you, Major Autist, that your show about anime girls and tanks doesn't appeal to anyone besides weebs. Not a single self-respecting adult is consuming their share of tanks through anime. Why do you think that is?

Someone who wasn’t autistic wouldn’t be so eager to prove they aren’t that they’d require someone with a medical degree to fix themselves.
Do I have to prove you’ve Taken a dick up the ass to call you a faggot? Or do you truly not understand how the internet works,

it's the same with anime. you just have a trained eye for western cartoons.

>the appeal of a bunch of anime girls fighting in tanks relies entirely on the cute anime girls and not the tanks
There is no reason whatsoever why someone cannot watch GuP and be interested in the tanks. You cannot argue against this.

>It doesn't matter how interested you are in both.
If you say that it's possible to be interested in the tanks then you are negating what you just said.

>It shows a clear misconception of war, tanks and their appeal towards enthusiasts, vets and the like.
What the fuck are you talking about?

>You couldn't possibly pass this as a war series or even a young adult series, because the tanks aren't even 1% of the reason you watch it.
It's not supposed to be a war series and doesn't have to be a war series, and I have no idea why you are bringing the young adult demographic into this. There is no reason why someone can't be interested in the tanks, and there is also no reason why someone would have to be interested in the tanks. You are not making any kind of coherent argument because you are a fucking retard.

>I can assure you, Major Autist
1. Define autism correctly.
2. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism.
3. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism anonymously over the internet.
4. Perform a diagnosis based only on what I have previously written.
5. Explain why it would make any difference whether or not I have autism.

>your show about anime girls and tanks doesn't appeal to anyone besides weebs
Its #1 market is Japan, and Japanese people by definition cannot be weebs. There is also no reason why this show would particularly appeal to weebs.

>Not a single self-respecting adult is consuming their share of tanks through anime.
This series is for adults. The series you've never seen and don't know even basic things about. Because you're a fucking retard. You have spent fucking HOURS arguing about this shit for no fucking reason.

You made the accusation, now prove it. That's how it works.

1. Define autism correctly.
2. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism.
3. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism anonymously over the internet.
4. Perform a diagnosis based only on what I have previously written.
5. Explain why it would make any difference whether or not I have autism.

>There is no reason whatsoever why someone cannot watch GuP and be interested in the tanks
There is no reason whatsoever why someone interested in tanks would choose to watch an apocryphal, borderline insulting and reductionary cartoon featuring kawaii girls fighting with overly realistic tanks. Someone looking to buy a figurine of said kawaii girl on said tank though...

Yikes. You're definetely watching it for the tanks lmao

GuP is a show about tanks, therefore it is entirely conceivable that someone with an interest in tanks would be interested in it. There is nothing insulting about it and it is not a cartoon.

>Someone looking to buy a figurine of said kawaii girl on said tank though...
We just went over this you fucking subhuman retard. You are neurotic. There is nothing wrong with merchandise and it is not as all-important as you think it is. You are totally fucked in the head.

No, that isn’t how this works. Is this your first time on Yea Forums?
How can one human be this autistic? And more importantly, how have you not been banned for spamming the same shit so much? Where are the mods when you need them

>GuP is a show about tanks
It's not but it's cute that this is how you choose to justify your taste for shitty anime.

Even if I was, so what? Why is this thread now entirely about questioning people's motives for watching GuP? None of you fucks have even seen it, and I only mentioned it in the first place as just one possible refutation of the idea that the topic of a high school anime doesn't matter.

1. Define autism correctly.
2. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism.
3. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism anonymously over the internet.
4. Perform a diagnosis based only on what I have previously written.
5. Explain why it would make any difference whether or not I have autism.

>how have you not been banned for spamming the same shit so much?
I have not spammed anywhere. You are a liar.

GuP is a show about tank battles fought using WW2 tanks. This is a fact. You cannot dispute this fact. You have not even seen the show or know the first thing about it. GuP is also not shit and you have no capacity for even attempting to argue the matter.

>It’s not a cartoon
By definition it is a cartoon

>GuP is a show about tanks
Google searching brings up all of these topics before even mentioning tank, and all of the pictures shown the girls more prominently than the tanks. Even the word “Girls” is first before “Panzer.” It’s literally one of the many “ditzy girls wearing skimpy outfits and shooting guns” series that are a dime a dozen. This one just decided to use tanks instead of guns

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>I have not spammed
Repeats his generic copy/paste response that he has spammed multiple times in the thread because being called autistic really sets his autism into full throttle and he’s not smart enough to come up with a decent comeback. You’re a lolcow waiting to happen, pray you never get doxed

By definition it is not. It shares virtually nothing in common with cartoons.

>Google searching brings up all of these topics before even mentioning tank, and all of the pictures shown the girls more prominently than the tanks.
Right. Google searching. That's all you fucking have. It's not like you've actually WATCHED the fucking thing or anything.

>Even the word “Girls” is first before “Panzer.”
Holy fucking shit what incredible fucking pedantic bullshit.

> It’s literally one of the many “ditzy girls wearing skimpy outfits and shooting guns” series that are a dime a dozen.
It is fucking literally a fucking show about tank fucking battles fought with WW2 fucking tanks and almost all of its running time is fucking spent on either fucking battles or fucking preparing for them which you would fucking know if you had actually fucking see it you fucking disgusting subhuman retard.

YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THIS SHOW, yet you have spent HOURS fucking arguing every fucking little thing about it. Kill yourself.

I am FORCED to repeat it because YOU keep spamming that I am autistic without even attempting to ever prove your accusations like I have told you to. YOU are the one spamming here, YOU are the one instigating this.

1. Define autism correctly.
2. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism.
3. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism anonymously over the internet.
4. Perform a diagnosis based only on what I have previously written.
5. Explain why it would make any difference whether or not I have autism.

>GuP is a show about tank battles fought using WW2 tanks
Oh. So if I were to, say, watch Fury and watch that anime shit right after that, I wouldn't notice any egregious, super fucking obvious differences? I wouldn't happen to catch one glaring omittion in that flat out lie you call a synopsis?

I wonder why you'd choose to omit the one glaring issue you've been defending to death prior to this post. Maybe you just realized how insanely stupid your weeb cartoon really is.

>Still illustrations played back quickly to simulate motion
That’s literally a cartoon. How does it have nothing in common with the thing it actually is?

Oh and also, what fucking "skimpy outfits"? You really don't fucking know anything.

Of course there are differences you utter fucking moron. They are different works doing different things in different mediums you complete fucking waste of oxygen.

>I wouldn't happen to catch one glaring omittion in that flat out lie you call a synopsis?
I did not lie anywhere fuckface.

>I wonder why you'd choose to omit the one glaring issue you've been defending to death prior to this post.
And what the fuck have I omitted exactly?

> Maybe you just realized how insanely stupid your weeb cartoon really is.
Weeb means wannabe Japanese which BY DEFINITION this cannot be, and it is also not a cartoon.

It literally isn't and you have no arguments to the contrary and cannot prove your insane fucking claim just like nobody else can. Hundreds have tried and they have all failed. Fuck off.

>It shares virtually nothing in common with cartoons.
Except for the fact that, you know, it's animated? Thereby sharing an entire medium with cartoons simply by definition?

How can you be this much of a sperge?

Being animated does not make something a cartoon you fucking idiot.

>They are different works doing different things in different mediums
And despite admitting this, you choose to call it a "show about tanks fighting WWII battles". As if the fucking KAWAII ANIME GIRLS aren't even part of the show. As if that's not it's main appeal. As if you don't even understand what's so good about this shit you're supposedly defending.

Calling an autistic person autistic is not spamming, it’s just telling the spade just how much of an autistic spade it really is.
Your use of capital letters and increasing hostility also shows that you’re actually bothered by this conversations, which doesn’t help your “I’m autistic but I’m not autistic!” Standpoint.
It’s also not spamming if it is original every time. You are copy/pasting your autistic demands to prove that you are autistic because you are so autistic that you think since no one is willing to give you the “proof” you have decided is valid, everyone will be forced to believe you aren’t a completely autistic manbsby who is such a weeb that he plays with tanks instead of trains

I didn't even claim that but of course your autistic interpreted that way. Of course it did.

Yes it does. It 100% does. Just like pictures arranged in specific makes makes it a comic.
Or something filmed with a video camera is a movie.

I did not "admit" anything you fucking subhuman.

>you choose to call it a "show about tanks fighting WWII battles"
I did not call it that you fucking retard subhuman fucking piece of shit liar. I never said it's about fighting WW2 battles. You KNOW I never said that. Fucking piece of shit.

>As if the fucking KAWAII ANIME GIRLS aren't even part of the show.
Show me where I fucking said or implied they aren't, fuckface.

>As if that's not it's main appea
Show me where I said or implied they aren't part of the appeal, fuckface.

> As if you don't even understand what's so good about this shit you're supposedly defending.
YOU HAVE NEVER EVEN SEEN THE THING YOU ARE ATTACKING FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

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Well yeah, video games are animated, and the animatronics at Disneyland are animated, so they aren’t cartoons.

It 100% does not you fucking liar. You cannot do fucking jack shit to prove this insane claim. Anime and cartoons are different things, you cannot prove they aren't. Fuck off.

>You have no argument to the contrary
How about the definition of cartoon. Tell me, oh wise autistic man, how this isn’t the same definition?

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a bunch of anime running right now

That's the wrong definition and has been posted and refuted a zillion times by now.

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It does when we explicitly refer to cartoons in the same fucking sentence, you humongous tard.

Anime and cartoons are not the same thing and you CANNOT prove otherwise. Fuck off.

How is anime not a cartoon? Nothing about it says it isn’t except for autistic weebs who are too insecure to admit they like watching cartoons due to an inaccurate societal stereotype that all cartoons are for children.
At least embrace what you claim to love. You’re worse than the “video games are art!” People

This so the only proof of autism we needed.

How is anime a cartoon? You cannot answer this.

>autistic weebs who are too insecure to admit they like watching cartoons
You have no proof that I'm a weeb.

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> You’re worse than the “video games are art!” People
Video games are art and you can't prove they aren't. Fuck off.

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That’s the literal definition. I know you’re trying to troll, but you’re dogshit at it. You’ve completely ran out of material and it’s just sad at this point. Wrap it up man, this can’t be funny for you

It's the wrong definition and I have not trolled anywhere.

Johnny Test will save animation from CalArts

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Anime is a cartoon, you can’t prove it isn’t.

Video games aren’t art, you can’t prove they are.

Burden of proof is on you. Show that they are the same thing. Proptip: YOU CANNOT. Nobody fucking can. We've gone over this so many fucking times and it always ends the same way. Why the FUCK do you keep doing this?

>Video games aren’t art, you can’t prove they are.
Burden of proof is on you.

Imagine losing virtually all Yea Forums support due to your unbridled autism. Imagine copying and pasting your coping mechanism more than ten times in the span of an hour. Imagine watching weeb tank shit.

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It’s Webster, it’s the correct definition

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What is this thread even talking about anymore?

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Yep, you have nothing. I’ve given you proof by showing actual definitions and you just autistically shout

This one guy’s amazing autism that may or may not be the worst trolling attempt in history

>at least four of those anime girls are doing the stupid pout, blush and look away gimmick
Thanks, I just remembered how tiring it was to watch anime.

Imagine constantly spamming the same accusation and being totally powerless to even being to attempt to prove it. Imagine being so stupid that you think a Japanese work can be wannabe Japanese because you have no comprehension of what words mean.

It's the wrong fucking definition you retard because it's identical to defining a car as a motorized vehicle. We've been over this so many fucking times now and you fuckers just keep coming back for more.

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5. Explain why it would make any difference whether or not I have autism.

And how the fuck have I been trolling? Where's your fucking proof for that? You got fucking nothing for any of your claims.

So many wins this season.

>at least four of those anime girls are doing the stupid pout, blush and look away gimmick
What the hell are you talking about?

>Stocks
shig

Compare this with
Unlike cartoons and Anime, these two definitions are have nothing in common

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>Bitch and her little sister moves out into the boonies and meet fucking magic cat creature thing?
>Pale ass witch girl starting a delivery service and becoming an adult
>Not even the main character
>Ginger Girl living in a post apolitical world filled with deeply abominations and eerie beauty

you should value your time more

It's wrong to define a car as a motorized vehicle because that definition also includes motorcycles, trucks, boats, ATVs and planes. A car is a subset of the motorized vehicle superset. Cartoons and anime are subsets of the animation superset. You fucking retard.

I believe this is the medical definition of autism, yeah

ok, im taking the bait

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autism ;^)

There was no bait and I just posted this you dumbshit: Just fuck off already, jesus christ. This always ends the same fucking way. You cannot fucking win.

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That is an extreme logical fallacy. The definition of “car” has never been “motorized vehicle.” Especially because the word Car refereed to horse carriages when it first came around. As such, the vehicle were currently refer to as a car is actually officially known as an “automobile” which is defined as “ a usually four-wheeled automotive vehicle designed for passenger transportation.”

Cartoons and anime are the same thing, they’re cartoons. They literally have no difference whatsoever. They serve the same purpose, are made with the same techniques, and are viewed in the same format. You cant even ague the age demographics are different because the West has many adult and teen oriented shows just like Japan has a shit ton of child oriented shows.
Cartoons are in the film industry.

. Define autism correctly.
>2. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism.
>3. Prove that you are qualified to diagnose autism anonymously over the internet.
>4. Perform a diagnosis based only on what I have previously written.
>5. Explain why it would make any difference whether or not I have autism.
no u ; ^ )

>The definition of “car” has never been “motorized vehicle.”
I never said that's the definition you fucking retard, you stupid fucking motherfucker holy shit.

>Cartoons and anime are the same thing, they’re cartoons.
This is FALSE and you CANNOT prove otherwise. We've done this fucking thing countless times and it's always the same fucking shit. You always fucking lose. Why can't you just fucking STOP? What the fuck's wrong with you?

>They literally have no difference whatsoever.
Yeah no differences between fucking Attack on Titan and Tom & Jerry. You stupid fucking subhuman.

>They serve the same purpose, are made with the same technique
Nope. Why don't you just kill yourself?

>You cant even ague the age demographics are different because the West has many adult and teen oriented shows just like Japan has a shit ton of child oriented shows.
Cartoons are non-serious, anime is serious. Most anime is made for adults, most cartoons aren't. Fuck off.

>Cartoons are non-serious, anime is serious.

This is wrong.

No it isn't. Fuck off. You know nothing.

You can’t make an argument, and then claim you never made the argument when someone disproves it
And genre does not change the definition of something. An anime is a cartoon, it’s just a Japanese way of saying it. There are tons of examples of serious cartoons, the people who claim cartoons aren’t serious are the same people who only see the stuff intended for small children to watch. Just like shit like Anpanman and Doraemon aren’t serious, they’re intended for kids.

>spend decades of your life, one of many generations trying to explore and update your craft
>some upper class kids stroll by and shit all over it with doodle tier basic designs.

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Most anime is made for 13-16 year olds actually. The outstanding minority of anime is made for the adult market

>You can’t make an argument, and then claim you never made the argument when someone disproves it
This never happened.

>An anime is a cartoon
An anime is NOT a cartoon and you have NO means of proving otherwise you fucking moron. Doesn't matter how many fucking times you start this fucking argument, you will ALWAYS be wrong. Fuck off and die.

There is no distinction between teenagers and adults in anime. Fuck off.

The literal definition is more than enough proof. Actually looking it is also proof, as is looking at a making of for any cartoon and any anime. They’re literally 100% the same damn thing.
Your only argument for them not being the same is genre. And I’m sorry to break this to you, but genre and subject matter doesn’t magically transform something into an different medium. weebs are the only people who argue that anime is not a cartoon, even the japs don’t argue this. And weebs only do it because, as I said earlier. They’re insecure. They can’t just enjoy a cartoon, it had to be something completely different

Yes, there is. It’s called Seinen and shounen

The literal definition is fucking wrong you fucking idiot and I fucking already told you why.

>Actually looking it is also proof, as is looking at a making of for any cartoon and any anime. They’re literally 100% the same damn thing.
You are are literally 100% either fucking lying or have NO fucking clue what the fuck you are saying because you have never seen any fucking anime. It is utterly fucking laughable to claim they are the same, you might as well fucking claim you can't see any difference between the first silent film and fucking The Matrix. Holy fucking shit.

>Your only argument for them not being the same is genre.
My fucking argument is that they have next to nothing in common, which means they can't be the fucking same thing because that's how difference fucking works you retard. Two things can't fucking be the same if they aren't the fucking same. This is basic fucking common sense.

>weebs are the only people who argue that anime is not a cartoon
Weebs don't fucking exist and if they did exist then they'd be absolutely right because it's a fucking FACT that they aren't the same and you CANNOT--repeat--CANNOT fucking prove otherwise.

They intersect each other you fucking idiot subhuman.

It's just wrong. There are a few serious cartoons and a shitton of non-serious anime. A lot of those, especially the ones directed towards small children, are very similar to the average western cartoons. Episodic comedies.

It fucking isn't wrong, go fuck yourself. You have no fucking clue what you're babbling about you fucking idiot.

Simply stating "(all) anime is serious" is just wrong, that's all.

I never said all anime is serious you fucking liar. You goddamn disgusting dishonest subhuman. You make me fucking sick. Your constant fucking bullshit scheming and plotting. Fuck you.

There isn’t a difference between the matrix and the first silent film, they’re both movies. Same medium. They have minor genre differences, and s hundred years of new tech, but they’re the same format, just like how an anime is just s cartoon from a different country.

The definition I gave you was not wrong, it was correct and verifiable in both Webster and oxford dictionaries. Your refutal was a very badly designed logical fallacy that didn’t apply to the situation since it had the false notion that “motor vehicle” was the definition of car. And when I corrected you on this, you claimed you never made that argument(though you’re making it here now).
Again mate, trolling only works if there are people giving you good reactions. No one is actually reacting to you here

Holy fucking shit. Goddamn fucking christ. OBVIOUSLY there are HUGE fucking differences between the two you disgusting dishonest fucking subhuman cretin. Go fuck yourself.

>just like how an anime is just s cartoon from a different country.
AN UTTERLY ABSURD CLAIM THAT YOU CANNOT DO A SINGLE THING TO PROVE.

>The definition I gave you was not wrong, it was correct and verifiable in both Webster and oxford dictionaries.
It's fucking wrong AND I ALREADY TOLD YOU EXACTLY WHY.

>Your refutal was a very badly designed logical fallacy
No it fucking wasn't you fucking liar. Fuck off.

>it had the false notion that “motor vehicle” was the definition of car.
I NEVER SAID THAT. I NEVER SAID THAT. You FUCKING KNOW I never said it. You are a goddamn fucking liar. Your fucking insect-sized fucking NPC brain cannot fucking fit anything into it except "anime bad, anime bad, must attack anime must attack anime," and it doesn't fucking matter how you do it as long as you do it. You'll fucking say anything. You have no principles, no honesty, just the single-minded objective to take down anime by any means necessary. You are a fucking loathsome subhuman and I wish I could bludgeon you to death with a fucking crowbar.

Based animefag btfos Yea Forums with FACTS and LOGIC.

Ben? I didn't know there were jewish weeps.

>Jewish weeps
Plenty of that
>Jewish weebs
Not so sure

I looked it up and ngl it looks really stupid. Why don't the girls wear appropriate combat attire? That would be more realistic.

They aren't participating in real combat. It's not a real war. It's a sport.

That sounds really dumb.

Ice Bear almost never smiles like that, fuck off

You sound like a fucking dullard who takes everything 100% seriously.

Yaaas queeen so unique guuurrrl

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/pol/ hates capitalism
they prefer fascism

>getting this buttblasted over autism being used as a school yard insult

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This webm was already refuted. Why do you keep posting this?

>/pol/ is one person

How so?

>2 = 4
The only number you should be worried about is your chromosome count

Okay, autist.

You know how so. This is at least the third time you've posted it and I already told you why it's full of shit.

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Hundreds of fucking posts and not a single person is even so much as capable of defining what autism is.

What is even the point of this? What is bad or generic about a shot where two people stand across from eachother, or closeups of someones face?

>What is bad or generic about a shot where two people stand across from eachother, or closeups of someones face?
The lack of any dynamism or aesthetic. As in, you know, it looks cheap and generic as hell. There's a reason Family Guy looks so cheap, and it's because they recycle the same angles and shots.

Made you hit your head.

That's the thing. Those are very ordinary commonplace shots and there are 1000+ anime with tens of thousands of episodes, of course it's easy to compile something like this. In fact this video is projection as American show are the ones that actually have very repetitive camera work.

Anime is the most dynamic and aesthetic animation there is.

The fuck is this even supposed to mean?

>Anime is the most dynamic and aesthetic animation there is
We get it, in-between frames make for slightly smoother animation. But that's one episode out of any given season, the rest of the time it's a slideshow.

Can we watch anime and cartoons both?

This is a myth. As usual people who don't watch any anime blindly repeat whatever fucking garbage is shoved down their throats on forums.

Mmm, two people are standing opposite each other, this has never been in the cinema!

End the SJW dogma
make the hipster millenian actually learn how to draw
make them have character, qualifications, training, discipline, and make them have vision!

The fact that you have to strawman such a common complaint about anime shows how insecure you are. Low budget and quality affects on-going anime. It forces directors to cut corners and have the characters narrate over sliding backgrounds. It's so fucking apparent Berserk is famous for this.

Show me two different movies where two different shots of people talking side by side overlap perfectly in 2D.

>Show me two different movies where two different shots of people talking side by side overlap perfectly in 2D.
I think there are thousands of films where people communicate opposite each other in every conceivable and unimaginable position, stupid ram.

I didn't strawman shit, your complaint is meme nonsense circle-jerked by idiots who don't watch anime.

>It forces directors to cut corner
As opposed to fucking who? Do you think American shows don't cut corners? Do you think Disney didn't cut corners? Like I said, meme nonsense.

Eh, if American cartoons had a normal direction, and not drawing deformed men from the side.

Not all cartoons have to be ultra-super realistic user. The last time we got anything like that, we were given some of the most stiff cartoons known to man.

Which animated shows don't have these slideshow moments?

Show me two that match perfectly in a stilted two-dimensional angle then.

It's not a strawman if one of THE anime classics is known precisely for cutting so many corners it resembles a Windows 98 screensaver most of the time. You must be blind and/or willfully ignorant.

You don't know fucking shit about anime.

Half American cinema, stupid ram.

"Anime is trash" can easily be said when there is so much of it. There are over 30 anime being made each season, most of these are pretty trash with subpar production, that shouldn't make you ignore the good ones.

I don't know what the fuck happened to cause this - but Jesus, does it make me laugh at the sheer autism in this thread.

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Most of them are not trash.

As an anime viewer, no, this is incorrect.

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>I don't know what the fuck happened to cause this
A guy who doesn't watch anime decided that he's going to get into a fierce, hours long debate about it, especially one anime in particular that he has never seen.

It is correct. You are just stupid. You are stupid because you think that everything that isn't great must be trash. To you, there is no such thing as average, mediocre, decent or so-so. It all must be trash.

Give RebelTaxi a chance to make his cartoon

They are though.

This tank autist took the attack on his waifus way too personally, even if he singlehandedly spammed the thread for a couple of hours straight.

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>took the attack on his waifus way too personally
Show me where anything like this happened. Protip: you fucking cannot, because you are a liar.

>even if he singlehandedly spammed the thread for a couple of hours straight.
More shit that never happened. Liar.

You are shifting blame. It's undeniable that I didn't cause this.

Show me then, ESL-kun.

There you go, spamming like a fucking bot.

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I have not spammed. You are a fucking liar. You are the ones who have been spamming.

>acting this fucking retarded
>denying that you're spamming, even though it's the same writing style as the other ones
Imagine...

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I want a cartoon with a good graphic. Not some fucking ugly Simpsons or Family Guy.

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I have not spammed. You are a fucking liar. You are shifting blame. Go fuck yourself.

The defining feature for CalArts for me is the horrible understanding of 3D space and anatomy. Beany mouths, noodle bodies and playdoh switch-and-mix bodies, are the warning signs that you're about to see disgusting animation.

>upgrade/improve style
You're a special kind of retard

Obvious - wait for the eldest of Gen Z to be old enough to get some influence in the animation industry and see their artstyle - probably pointy and sharp - dominate the industry for the next decade, due to their nostalgia for early to mid 2000s shows.

Millenials and boomers and maybe some of Gen Z themselves will shit on it, calling it horrible and dubbing it the [insert name given to commonly seen artstyle here] style and have rant videos, memes and threads about it.

Then, over 10 years or probably less, there will be a thread on Yea Forums titled:
>How do we solve the [insert name given to commonly seen artstyle here] question?

And the cycle continues...

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>To you, there is no such thing as average, mediocre, decent or so-so. It all must be trash.
I'll watch shows that can get by on the loveable characters and the slapstick; I must admit I've fallen in love with the crude slapstick anime does. However, most shows have a nonsensical story that never gets developed or wrapped up. Hell, most don't even have good characters. What's worse is the amount of hanging plot threads in shows that even have a plot. Well fuck that part of the story, we forgot it existed.

Yeah it's mostly garbage, sorry. I only watch it for loveable characters and bad comedy.

>Yeah it's mostly garbage, sorry.
Nope. You're just dumb.

>explicitly refuting the central point and explains the mistake using quotes

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See

Actually, yes, I would prefer it, because at least the artstyle wouldn't look bland and inoffensive.

Oh, yes. You're not the kind of retard that thinks drawing shitty or never exploring new techniques is "your style".
Fuck off back to dA.

You lil shit

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Of course. I wish both mediums stole from each other more. You can't however be a faggot about them.

34 i think

>Just watch anime
youtube.com/watch?v=ZCrwyWg-MBA

It's cheap so it makes sense. On that same note, could you think of a similarly cheap but different design?

>thread that triggers both calarts fags and weebs

10 years later and the people who deny sameface still prove themselves as autistic.

i have a better one for ya

youtube.com/watch?v=sso9Zb_Hdo4

It's not like it's some mandatory art style animators MUST adapt to.

welcome to Yea Forumsntrarian board, literally nothing new, enjoy your stay

>Yu-No is literally always being ignored
lol you fuckers and its a 2 cour anime to being with

what is this

Are they still going on about cartoon sameface vs. weeb sameface or whatever they were talking about like 9 hours ago?
I can't be bothered to read all that shit.

>has never watched old newgrounds videos

whats the problem in the animation industry? the gender and race gaps? the wage fixing? the sexual harassment cases? the lifelong debt many students are in? .no . none of that. i think its the little cartoon boy . i dont like the shape of his face

i bet that's gonna be a wanna be anime style