Has she redeemed herself?

its good woman, very big beutiful hairs
now just maek big bobs hmm yes give milks yes

Its red for Dune not for Spider-Man. Zendaya "MJ" is still trash.

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i can't blame her for taking the role. i can blame the jack holes that cast her for it.

>Comparing a teenager to a highly exaggerated highly sexualized drawing

What racebend in the MCU isn't unnecessary? Mandarin was played by a white British actor and the Ancient One a white woman from some place european I think.

That's more like rubbing in salt

>face it, tiger, you just hit the jackpot
>no I wasn't talking to you Peter, I was talking to the tiger behind you who's gambling
>*slide whistle plays*

fpbp

Kevin Feige joke

Brie Larson
Zendaya
Tessa Thompson

Imagine who he'll hire to play Ororo, Jean Grey, Susan Storm and Black Cat

They dont want to hire girls they would be attracted to because its Hollywood and they can't control their dicks if they are attracted to them.

now THIS is an MJ I could be behind.

I really hate it when movie company, try and solve the problems by fixing a small problem like "look just like the comics, everything is solved now. Just like the comic!"

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Agreed. Something about the red hair just brings the whole thing together.

Name one (1) attractive female actor that's good at acting. Protip: You litterally can't

>Comparing the shitshow that was BvS to Spiderman homecoming
Nah nigga you stop rn.

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I didn’t ask for this

Have sex

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>nigga

Cringe zoomer

still ugly

Indeed Heir user

>the Ancient One a white woman from some place european I think.

They were avoiding offending the chinese. Movies nowadays need China

Its only when its black people user

marisa
goddamn
tomei

Yea Forums only cares when a white character is changed, though.

No. This mutt isn't MJ. MJ is redhead and white hot model type. She is neither and they don't even share the same name.

Christina Hendricks

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She actually does kind of look like Mary Jane from her earlier apperances.

Which makes me wonder why they didn't just have Zendaya die her hair and call her Mary Jane from the beginning.

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Fucking is going to make Batman vs Superman better?

Naked Amy Adams in the bathtub sure did.

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Report each and every single live action thread on sight.
If they aren't deleted, or if you get wrongfully banned, politely appeal to the mods by using the feedback function and speak to them directly on IRC explaining why the threads should be removed (they lead to gratuitous amounts of off topic shitposting, political bullcrap, psychotically belligerent brand fanaticism & false flagging for the sake of trolling, etc.). Furthermore, you can try to convince them that by consolidating discussion of all live action movies and TV shows to Yea Forums, their jobs will be made much easier since their attention to shitposting in those threads will be more focused if they're on one board instead of two.

Get over yourself and go outside. Make friends and stop giving a shit

Is this Red Head Redemption?

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>no ring
IRREDEEMABLE!

I've never really seen her as any kind of "Mary Jane" and that's sorta the point I guess. That said, I think she really plays off of Tom nicely and I like their chemistry from what we've seen in Homecoming and the Far From Home trailer and if given the opportunity, I'd gladly eat her feces.

Pretty sure that Asians were angry at least about the Ancient One racebend

Have sex

If there's a 1% chance that Batman could fuck Superman we would need to take it with the upmost certainty

THE MILK TRUCK HAS ARRIVED

>It's okay that we annihilate biological gingers as long as we make the mulattoes we replace them with dye their hair red
Um nope, try again, sweatie! :)

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Bullshit. We hated the whitewashing of the Ancient One and the Mandarin. But those were actually also because of PC ideology (as well as pandering to communist China). Mandarin because he was originally a Fu Manchu stereotype and Ancient One because he was Tibetan which is a no no for China and also the 'mystical Oriental' stereotype is 'racist'.

>A ginger not showing up in a Spuderman movie will lead to genocide
Did you cry this much when Drax was played by Batista?

>We hated the whitewashing of the Ancient One and the Mandarin
Prove it

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Oh god its a pure bred! No one look, theyre prone to attack with their gimp strength.

How the fuck did they not pick her out of the two of them? Wow, nevermind I just looked up pics of her, what the fuck happened?

They backtracked after it became apparent from Endgame that Disney could literally film people fucking Walt and Stan's corpses and still make bank.

Maybe, but we all know Batman shines as a power bottom

Right. Pure coincidence, I'm sure.

I would be so happy if this were her movie look.

Fuck, they are really going to cast this negress as Mary Jane.

Why do they hate us?

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Is Marvel and Netflix trying to deatroy Asians by having whites play them?

No she doesnt you faceblind faggot

>Adding literal aliens for a list as Gingers. Where's Drax btw

...You've hit the trash pile

Forgot pic

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Money and lack of strong parental guidance

Because gingers are the palest you can possibly get, they're so fucking chalk full of white privilege they practically glow. Of course they're going to be the blackenings first targets.

What Ginger actors are there anyway?
>inb4 just hire some in these A list Movies

Not my job. Look it up in the archives, I'm sure we complained about it. I certainly did. If we complained less about that than stuff like MJ, it makes sense because
a) Whitewashing an asian is rare in Yea Forums movies, whereas blackwashing gingers is almost universal
b) We care more about the character of Spider-man's greatest love than these other characters
c) The majority of us are probably white, and just as you'd expect an asian to be more upset about asian characters being whitewashed, you should also naturally expect whites to be more bothered by whites being blackwashed
But racebending is always a bad thing in my opinion.

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Starfire has caucasoid features and was born with naturally red hair.

Jackie Earl Haley used to be ginger, not sure what happened there. Anyway IMDB has some lists, imdb.com/list/ls066580547/

>Hollywood stops hiring gingers as actors because they don't fit in their agenda
>"They can't hire gingers anyway; there are no ginger actors!"
You see the problem here?

because gingers are gross and ugly

>Whitewashing an asian is rare in Yea Forums movies, whereas blackwashing gingers is almost universal
>Spawn
>Iron-man 3
>Pan
>Dr.Strange
>Batman Begins
>The Dark Knight Rises
>Wanted
a few whitewashed comic movies for ya

Ah so the reason whites play asian roles in movies is because hollywood stopped hiring Asian actors.
She's also an Alien, it's like sayimg Trigon is Native American because od his red akin

The last two are the only two that I'm upset about.

A light-skinned black or mulatto with caucasoid facial features would have been okay for Starfire

I liked the gremlin face more. She looks like one of those generic disney xd tv starlets

>OH BUT SHE'S TOTALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO BE MARYJANE WATSON YOU'RE IMAGINING THINGS SHE'S MJ A COMPLETE OC SO IT'S OKAY TO FUCK UP HER CHARACTER
I am so mad.

I'd kill to see Starfire portrayed by a Native American actress. I legitimately believe there are real parallels between Tamaraneans and Native Americans and that it would benefit the character having an actress with the experience of being part of the community.

If Batista can play a white character why can't the real black hoe

I would have been okay if she was fucking orange
And they fucking messed it up

She could have played Starfire!

She looks pretty when she's dolled up like this.

I don't get the fags who go on about how she's ugly and use photos of her without make up as evidence, practically every woman looks hideous in the buff.

Ghost in the shell come on user are you even trying

Is she pretty?
Yes.
Is she Mary Jane?
No.
Does her being introduced as MJ make it unlikely we will see Mary Jane in the MCU?
Yes.

>biological gingers
i believe they prefer to be called "natural redheads."

NOpe, that's redhead genocide

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The words "nigger" and "ginger" are anagrams.

see
They're doing that because of the same PC ideology, as well as to cater to red China who don't want to be shown as villains or be forced to look at Tibetans.
And yeah, that's shitty too. But it's two examples, compared to like a million.

>But it's two examples, compared to like a million.
user this happens in amine movies as well.

Brown girls with reddish hair are top tier so...

tall girls are fucking disgusting.

>being this gay

Short girs get fat way quicker (and not THICC, just fat and dumpy), have stubby legs, and usually have cankles. Literally shit.

Pic related, asshole.

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Career decline in the wake of her show ending and costar rising. Basically the worst case scenario of what could have happened to her. Victoria Justice just faded into obscurity when it happened to her, Bella went nuts

So you're adding up every racebent non-white instead of sticking to asians. Spawn was black in the movie, dunno what the fuck you're talking about there. Pan is based on a play not a comic book. They turned Tiger Lily white because Native American activists had complained about natives being treated like a fantasy race alongside mermaids and fairies in Neverland. So they made them an unrelated 'tribe' with no relation to American Indians. I agree that it sucks, they should have ignored the far left radicals, who of course complained anyway. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
For the Ancient One and Mandarin, see , it's for SJW reasons again. The Batman movies, I assume you're referring to the al Ghuls. They're ethnicity was always ambiguous, and PC ideology is once again likely to blame: leftists attacked the character as 'Orientalism'.
Not sure what happened with Wanted, the source material's attitude towards race was sketchy as fuck, the main character was racist towards his black boss and Fox being black was like a counter-balance to that. So maybe they felt like since they eliminated the racism they didn't need to include that element and they wanted Jolie's star power. Still sucks, all of this sucks, racebending always sucks and PC/SJW ideology is almost always to blame as they are afraid to have minorities play stereotypes or villains. They are trying to spare the feelings of minorities, that's not the case with what they're doing with gingers.

*Their ethnicity

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Why would it be red for Dune?

I don't understand what's this obsession with an accurate Mary Jane when she's such a nothing character. Seriously. I'm even glossing over all the redhead bullshit because yeah that's shut-in Yea Forums for you, but goddamn she never had anything to offer beyond being Spider-Man's trophy girlfriend, quite literally.
Plus it's a retread of a story we've seen so many times already, I don't get the point. It's like the same story has to be retold over and over or else these "fans" (who clearly hate Spidey more than actual haters) won't be pleased.

thats one nice strawman

Where's the strawman exactly? I'm talking about the "Spideyfags" who complain about Every Single Damn Thing.
>"Oh my god Ironboy! Oh shit he has Miles' diverse cast now! Wow is that him with a "Kill Mode" in his suit? Whoa no he doesn't "kill", forever ruined! Aunt May can't know his identity, this is beyond disgusting, can't deal with this... Is that an Indian Flash? I'm getting sick to my stomach"
And specially
>"Not white a white redheaded bimbo? Not muh em jay!!!"

Absolutely not.

Gingers deserve to be holocausted

>>"Oh my god Ironboy! Oh shit he has Miles' diverse cast now! Wow is that him with a "Kill Mode" in his suit?
Implying any of those things are good.
>"Not white a white redheaded bimbo? Not muh em jay!!!"
Really showing how much you love MJ's character there.

Remember, hollywood doesnt care about accuracy. They want you to buy into the world of lgbt and racial mixing because this is all one big cultural war.

>Really showing how much you love MJ's character there.
What gave you the idea that I did, from my initial post? >Implying any of those things are good.
Those other things aren't really a deal-breaker, and the whole "Ironboy" thing is very likely overblown. Nothing wrong with making Spider-Man the centerpiece of the MCU from now on, anyway.

And you go shoot up a post-office or something, I can tell you're itching for action.

>And you go shoot up a post-office or something, I can tell you're itching for action.
shut the fuck up, you little faggot. It's clear the blackwashing is for agenda reasons. They did this shit in the theatre world and it should have stayed there. There's only so much disbelief you can have to a character when they go from a european look with straight hair to an african character with frizzled or afro hair

>It's clear the blackwashing is for agenda reasons.
I thought you got shot in the butt, Clyde.

That has yet to be seen.
Not that it matters either way though, the rest of "Spidey's" supporting cast is still fucked and he's still in Iron Man's shadow. This will be his fourth outing in this universe and it's still the Iron Man Junior show. Even if this movie is about stepping out of it like some will claim it is, FFH will be either over or just under half of the appearances that the character will most likely make in this universe.

>People Hate mj
>loves mj when shes another color
Well when someone enjoys a character and another person only loves her when she changed color its a bit irritating.
>Those other things aren't really a deal-breaker
Singular they're not a deal breaker, but when you add them all up. Except Ironboy i hated that more than the fake mj.

>KatMac MJW never

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Taking away almost every member of a character's classic supporting cast and replacing them with "diverse" literally whos is a problem, yes.

Retard.

>And you go shoot up a post-office or something, I can tell you're itching for action.
I'm linking the FBI to this post, I'm sure they have some questions about why you just encouraged a mass shooting.

i instantly like her
thought she'd be in the "MJ's iconic first line is sexist!" camp

Compelling argument.
Why is it a problem when they're not white? Come on, indulge me. I'm sure you have a very convincing point to make here.

Why do they have to magically changed to another race? come on, indulge me. I'm sure you have a very convincing point to make here.

They're fictional character, who gives a shit?
Now you answer the question.

>have to
they don't have to, but if it happens i don't really care that much i see them as different mediums different characters doesn't take away from the original character

>They're fictional character, who gives a shit?
you answered your own question then

>different characters doesn't take away from the original character
if that was true Yea Forums wouldnt be throwing a bitchfit over Wally becoming a murderer and Cap being a nazi.

My own question? I thought you were the one who cared about them being made "diverse", when their race is absolutely inconsequential to the characters. They could be anything, and so they are.

She's so beautiful.

Buy why would you change it? They're fictional characters.

Well, for one because skin color is an actual characteristics that plays a part in a person life, you can't just change a characters skin color and expect then to live or behave the same way they would otherwise.
Second , and I'm speaking this as a mulatto, making white characters suddenly black is pandering and racist. While there are hundreds of good black or mixed characters you could include in your movie you choose to put a white character in paint it black for diversities sake because you think the black characters aren't good enough.
I say fuck you. We don't need the scrap from you "white saviors" we want our own character that don't shit on established lore. That is the main reason why black panther was such an awesome movie, it didn't need to pander to colored folk in order to be inclusive.

Are you really? Is MJ THAT important to you as a character that she has to be EXACTLY like MJ who to be honest never had a solid, unique personality anyway? She changes every each incarnation so why does it matter?

BLAGH.

Wish she had just used the name Mary Jane, suffering this gay ambiguity shit for however many movies just to have a shitty twist in the first film wasn't a smart move

Her HBO show performed worse than 90 day fiance reruns and 8am sportscenter

I hate blackwashing but I like Zendaya.

i don't think changing a character fundamentally in the comic canon =/= change skin tone in a movie

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>making white characters suddenly black is pandering and racist.
No, it isn't. From a "mulatto" to another. And I really love it how guys like you have to resort to this fake woke mentality just to pointlessly defend the race of FICTIONAL CHARACTERS by pulling the "white saviors" card. How about you go fuck yourself? They aren't living people, so their race can be molded into a new personality in the medium, and nothing would happen to the original versions. It's all inconsequential.

Not him but changing skintone is pretty fucking racist.

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>Nuh uh it doesn't matter, nothing matters. It's all inconsequential.
Great arguments seu filho da puta. Also nice job ignoring everything I said.
Tell me then why change it? or is that too hard for you? because it was changed for a reason and there's a reason why you are defending this change.

You're the same brazuca who always posts here, I know it because need to prove a point by switching to Portuguese as if to show how you're The Real Deal™. Lámeme las bolas, imbécil.
>Tell me then why change it? or is that too hard for you?
Because it can be changed. That's it. Her being white or black or mixed is completely inconsequential to what she was in the comics, a fucking trophy girlfriend with absolutely NO other qualities to her. I'm not even "defending" the change either, because I absolutely don't give a shit if she's white or black.
Straight from the /pol/tard playbook: take a fringe case and apply it to the majority.

Why not? You're saying changing skin color doesn't matter, i say it does matter because it brings negative connotations.

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What negative connotations? They're fictional characters, you imbecile.

> it can so it should
Well that is the stupidest thing you could say. The only argument you need against it is "it goes against established lore so it shouldn't be" And if you don't care about proper characterization on a side character, you should not be here.
And if you thin MJ is simply a bland character with no personality then you really haven't read many good spider-man comics

>Well that is the stupidest thing you could say.
Good thing I never said that, I simply said it could, so why the fuck not? Just go for it, or not, whatever. IT DOESN'T MATTER, they aren't real, you haven't given a single compelling argument why they shouldn't be changed. Them being a different interpretation from the comics doesn't change the comics or the source itself, it's just that, another universe among many.
>And if you don't care about proper characterization on a side character...
Dude it's a race change, it's not really that important. Holy shit, the mental gymnastics.

And its racist then too or do you mean to imply that bugs wearing black face wasn't racist.

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>Dude it's a race change, it's not really that important.
Then why are you so bent of shape?

>race change, it's not really that important.
99% of the human population would like to disagree with you.

>do you mean to imply that bugs wearing black face wasn't racist.
That's not really the same thing, though? Why are you grasping at straws?
Am I? I'm not the one completely repulsed because "muh MJ ain't white so she's shit". I don't give a single shit if she's white or not, also lol'd at the guy who said MJ wasn't a bland character.

THEY ARE FICTIONAL CHARACTERS
THEY AREN'T REAL
THEY DO NOT EXIST
THEIR RACE IS INCONSEQUENTIAL
IT DOESN'T
FUCKING
MATTER.

Its exactly the same thing,
>Waaah they can me any color they want they're fictional
>Woah you can't do that in real life
>Woah you can't do that in cartoons either
Its almost like stupidly changing races makes people call you out on your stupidity.

Not until she stops acting like a pastiche of Ultimate Universe Gwen Stacy with extra snark. That's my main gripe with Zendaya's MJ, in that she doesn't act like MJ in any way, and instead acts more like Ultimate Gwen Stacy.

Dude if a cartoon character plays out a racist caricature, of course it's fucking racist, you fucking idiot. My god.

>muh MJ ain't white so she's shit
Nigger that goes for all characters. If black panther suddenly turned white ill be out for blood because thats retarded.

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How the fuck would you know he's being racist maybe he's secretly black all along and he couldn't show it because he was a rabbit.

>they are fictional character so gender doesn't matter
> they are fictional character so age doesnt matter
>they are fictional charters so race doesn't mater
>they are fictional charterers so they powers don't matter
I mean, if want to look at it this way, why not have spider-man be an Asian baby who can shoot lazers out of his eyes?
It's inconsequential it doesn't matter.

It's not a "racist" caricature because race don't matter on fiction, you said it yourself mate.

>outrage culture the thread
stop pretending to be offended already it's embarrassing

In that case his race is important, though? He was created with that specific race and purpose in mind. Again, not really the same thing, if they made Batman black, nothing would be amiss, he'd still be rich, famous, and a complete Gary Stu, just like uhhh let's see, Black Panther.

>I mean, if want to look at it this way, why not have spider-man be an Asian baby who can shoot lazers out of his eyes?
Are you new to comics? Because that's the premise to every "What If" story. Yeah, why not? All that shit can happen in alt-universes, and I guarantee you it will.

There's no way you're not a teenager with this Ben Shapiro-tier level of argumentation.

mmfff

Keep crying you poltard nigger back to R3ddit. You're a stupid niggerfaggot poltard.

Fuck off back to R3ddit you stupid niggerfaggot poltard.

Have sex you incel poltard

This. Just don't accept race changing. They pretend other rules are magically turned white (they're not) and this is some kind of revenge for that. Just reject it altogether.

Spider-Man shouldn't be used to push their evil propaganda.

>In that case his race is important, though
So race doesn't matter for fictional characters till it does, how fucking convenient. Who's to say that fucking MJ isn't created with her being a ginger in mind?

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Then you are fine with Luke Cage being black right? as well as cyborg and blade. I mean why not just make storm white. I would work perfectly.

Man I am still upset about her being cast as chani , she cant act and shes ugly

Exactly. They keep their shallow bullshit on display. It reveals they were well aware of how completely different it was but were hoping audiences wouldn't notice their piss poor casting that is usually just based on who knows who, then who's good for the role.

Fuck off back to R3ddit you stupid niggerfaggot poltard

>Who's to say that fucking MJ isn't created with her being a ginger in mind?
Was she? If no, then shut up.
I honestly don't care about either of these, but if you're trying to draw an equivalence here, the point of them not being changed into other ethnicities is that there's very few black characters in DC and Marvel, so obviously, changing them is more egregious than changing one of the MANY white fictional ones in each respective universe.
So yeah, in that case you can go wild and do it, the problem is how it will be received among the myriads of other characters that are already white.

Yes she was, she was based off of stan lees wife. fucking dumbass

Like in FF2 where Doom got shipped to Latveria in a crate or whatever..

> changing them is more egregious than changing one of the MANY white fictional ones in each respective universe.
They're egregious in any direction if you can't understand why some people don't like a black character turning white or a white character turning black then there's no hope for you

Dude you are literally saying it only matter when it happens to blacks while trying to be dismissive. Also, no i would not do that because their race is an important part of their character and how the interact with the world around them was well as their backstory.
You really care about race while saying you don't care about race at all.

>They're egregious in any direction
No, specifically minorities to white. Don't pull false equivalences in racism.
>Dude you are literally saying it only matter when it happens to blacks while trying to be dismissive.
Indeed I am, because there's no such thing as racism against whites, and only retards and sheltered right wing kids think otherwise.

>false equivalences in racism.
Do you even know what those words mean? If a black character turned white thats racist. If a white character turned black thats also racist where is the false equivalency?
>because there's no such thing as racism against whites
Oh so you're retarded and don't know the definition of words

>If a black character turned white thats racist. If a white character turned black thats also racist where is the false equivalency?
In thinking they're in the same standing in comics, as if 90% of all characters aren't white anyway.
>Oh so you're retarded and don't know the definition of words
No, I know them well. Racism is prejudice from a position of power, not "EVERYTHING IS RACIST BECAUSE I SAY SO", just so you can staunchly push your "muh ginger genocide" meme.

>There is an obscure character named Michele in the Spider-Man comics that is a huge bitch to Peter Parker while being attracted to him
>They can use that character as a blank canvas and write whoever they want it because she is not well established
>They made Zendaya's character named Michelle not exactly Mary Jane, but let's tease she is kinda Mary Jane anyways
>Oh look she dyed her hair red that'll do
I would prefer if they sticked to the OCs instead of doing a half assed effort to please fans halfway through, it's like they want to please everybody while pleasing no one

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Nope. Fuck niggers.

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>Racism is prejudice from a position of power
Get a dictionary then come back to me. i know its summer but vocabulary is important.

user... She's basically Michelle Gonzales.

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Love it when kids like yourself start pulling dictionary definitions, and then watch you squirm while moving the goalposts.
Literally read the very first definition. Where do you think the "belief that one's own race is superior" comes from, you idiot?

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Racism is discrimination based on race and unless you change the definition on the dictionary you are wrong. And even if you do you are still wrong about how the word was originally used.
There's no more powerful thing than number so in your logic "whites" can never be racist because they make the smallest "percentage" of people per race world wide.

>prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
>the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
now lets see what you posted
> Racism is prejudice from a position of power
Sounds like you haven't graduated from highschool yet. Fuck off and come back when you're adult with some actual brains.

>on the belief that one's own race is superior.
Again, where do you think this came from? Why are you ignoring this? See how blatant you are?

>There's no more powerful thing than number so in your logic "whites" can never be racist because they make the smallest "percentage" of people per race world wide.
LMAO this is some galaxy tier reasoning. Bravo, fucking laughed in real life.

OH you are actually retarded.
I'm sorry for coming off as mean to you on my posts and i understand you have disability. you might be better off not coming to this site thou people here can be quite mean to disabled people.

you can think your race is superior but be wrong about it lmao

I went and posted the definition, it's right there, but it's fin, I love how you're all outraged over me clearly stating racism against whites is a retarded concept.
>you can think your race is superior but be wrong about it lmao
You most definitely ARE wrong if you think so.

Then why not made her Michelle Gonzales instead of ambiguous alt-universe Mary Jane that behaves nothing like Mary Jane? They should've stick to the obscure unseen-on-film characters if they don't want to do the same things the older movies already did.

So you are saying white are inherently superior to blacks? which is why they are the only one who can be racist?
Also please learn to read, BELIEF does not have to be based on a fact. And if I believe my race is superior does not mean they are.

Where the fuck did anyone imply a race is superior?
You're treating white people like they're worth less, thats racist you dumb fuck. But honestly since you're a kid that doesnt know basic words its hard to feel mad.

Because then people would ask for Mary Jane and maybe, just maybe, they don't really intent to bring her into the story.

>Gave a completely different definition
>Tries to save face but comes off as retarded
this is just sad

So how re white the only ones who can be racist gain?
And where is the power art in all of this?
ANYONE can believe their race is superior and therefore be racist against other races.

>So you are saying white are inherently superior to blacks? which is why they are the only one who can be racist?
How did you get that from that?
It clearly says "ON THE BELIEF".
>Also please learn to read, BELIEF does not have to be based on a fact.
What??? Who am I arguing with here? What is happening here?
>Gave a completely different definition
No, it's the same definition: only reason there's a belief on racial superiority is because there were (in specific contexts) systemic conditions that facilitated some individuals to believe and enforce it upon minority races.
>ANYONE can believe their race is superior and therefore be racist against other races.
And it has happened before. I'm talking specifically about the American and European case, but Africa and Asia have suffered from this too. No, it's not just whites, I'm talking context here.

>there's very few black characters in DC and Marvel
Where are the Indians? Mexicans? No Aboriginal Australians neither? Native Americans? MENAs?.....

Why should the racist care about anyone but his favorite race user?

Those are even less prominent. Yeah, there's a huge diversity problem, but here's what happens:

>"damn I hate racebending, make your own characters if you want representation!"
*makes OC minority characters*
>"Whoa what is this shit? This is pandering, hamfisted and agenda-driven! What's the point on them existing?"

Its literally a completely nonsensical definition that doesn't exist in any dictionary.
>What??? Who am I arguing with here? What is happening here?
You're arguing that Blacks are worth more than Whites
Thats pretty racist desu.

>Its literally a completely nonsensical definition that doesn't exist in any dictionary.
Except for the one I just quoted?
>You're arguing that Blacks are worth more than Whites
When? Why are you equating minorities with whites as if they're the same thing?

what? racism now geographical? I can call a black person a nigger on Africa it's fine since the blacks hold the power there but I can't do so in Europe?
Whites can believe they are superior in china while being asshole to the Chinese for being Chinese while not being racist since they are in china? and the Chinese could do the same in america? do you realize this makes 0 sense?

>All those people on Yea Forums that insisted vehemently that she wasn't actually MJ and that you were silly to think she was.
Wish I had thought to screencap all those idiot apologists.

>I can call a black person a nigger on Africa it's fine since the blacks hold the power there but I can't do so in Europe?
It's more like it means more to someone in Europe and America than it does in Africa, but go off.
>do you realize this makes 0 sense?
No, actually what you're saying is convoluted on purpose because you're still trying to wrap your head around the fact that black people can be prejudiced against whites but not racist.

In no way did that google defintion state power is needed to be prejudice.
>When?
Right there

It isn't there, there no mention of power. It says belief so it not something that exists and even if it didn't say that would entail whites are inherently superior in order for racism to not be possible against them.

>In no way did that google defintion state power is needed to be prejudice.
It's right fucking there
>on the belief that one's race is superior
Superiority implies power. Learn to read definitions.
It doesn't have to be, SUPERIORITY implies so.

Whites are a minority world wide shithead.

>there's a huge diversity problem
there is only in your mind, most of these have their own media you imperialist faggot, Mexicans haven't problems to see more Mexicans, Just like Indians in fucking India .....

Fucking Jimmy "James" Olsen still fucking gets me. Like how the fuck did anyone think that was a good idea?

Where is power stated to be required to be racist?

Good thing we aren't talking about worldwide but the specific context of America, imbecile.
>there is only in your mind, most of these have their own media you imperialist faggot, Mexicans haven't problems to see more Mexicans, Just like Indians in fucking India .....
Hahaha, fuck right off, brazuca.
Right here.

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You are still ignoring the point and implication don't work on definitions. It's either there or it ins't.
The world black has dark which impels evil in it's definition, so that implies black people are all evil. See how that does not work?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_activism

>Belief in one's superiority
Not that you needed power you just have to think you're better or someone is worthless

We aren't talking about institutional racism which is a political term we are talking about pure and simple racism.
You can't pretend they are the same thing you dishonest fuck.

Thats a form of racism not the definition of the word racism

Fucking Tilda Swinton

No. She's still a disgusting mutt.

It's a problem that most of his classic cast are not even there. No Harry Osborne, no J. Jonah Jameson, no Robbie Robertson, no Uncle Ben even as an offhand reference, no Gwen Stacy, no Mary Jane Watson. As for why the race of the characters matters, everything about the physical appearance of the characters matter, both comics and film are visual mediums, these characters have lasted decades with an iconic look. Their clothing and hairstyles may fluctuate with the times but the basic appearance is timeless and in most cases remains constant. Why would you want to take away from that if you were really a fan of the comics?

It's not great since she's parrot for SJWness, but I am way less angry about her playing the character now since it actually kind of looks like her.

>They aren't living people, so their race can be molded into a new personality in the medium, and nothing would happen to the original versions. It's all inconsequential.
How did that work out for Nick Fury? When we give you an inch you take a mile.

>Why would you want to take away from that if you were really a fan of the comics?
Free adds and

>Her being white or black or mixed is completely inconsequential to what she was in the comics, a fucking trophy girlfriend with absolutely NO other qualities to her.
I refuse yo believe this is a Spider-man fan or even a comic fan.

So for you retards it was about the color of her hair?
Not the fact that this character is called Michelle and is the complete opposite of Mary Jane Watson?
I'm legit curious about the average IQ of this board, it seems people here are lowest common denominator /bottom of the barrel.

The red hair is a minor part of her character and I don't understand why it upset people so much that her hair was black.

LMAO trying so hard to be White...LOL.

Dan the Man happened

they whitewashed those characters in behalf of the chinaman who hated every other asian, well in teh case of Ancient One anyways, Madarin they were just being pussies cause they tought you cant make a chinese wizard because FU MAN CHEW!

Shes also a terrible actress on top of looking worn out by 25

That hair is awful.
Honestly I wouldn't have given a shit at all since these movies already barely resemble the comics, and Zendaya is hot as shit and what little of her there was in the movie was more likable than the other terrible characters.

But they shouldn't have even bothered with this hair. Her disheveled look was cute and unique.

They really need to just give up any pretense that these movies are based on comics, people would get less mad at stupid shit like this if they did.

>Doesn't know how not to get caught in the filter
Sure is summer in here

And why the fuck would you make Jimmy black instead of just having Steel? They could have also had a female black actress to play Natasha Irons. So instead of having two black characters from comics, they took a ginger character and made them black. Fucking dumb.

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Shut the fuck up NIGGER

You're right, Yea Forums IS easily baited in a variety of ways by hacky events and casting decisions intended to get attention and clicks.

Wouldn't it be weirder to change their ethnicity if they WEREN'T fictional?

The answer to your question, by the way, is to allow a wider array of actors to audition for the role and to try it out, to try to attract a more diverse and younger audience, and to get attention in pop culture media for the casting choice so as to drum up interest.

I am black and you are an absolute retard. You must be baiting

>you can't just change a characters skin color and expect then to live or behave the same way they would otherwise.

Depends on the character.

What aspects of deepest Spider-lore are affected by Mary Jane Watson's ethnicity?

It is Yea Forumsmblr. What did you expect?

How the hell did Kevin Smith get a hold of this movie?

Was more upset that he was tall, stylish, and suave than that he was black.

gingers have no soul
blacks are Soul

Her dimples make her look atrocious

Peter Parker's age and powers are relevant to teh type of story being told. You could probably make him Asian without changing much about his behaviour or personality, though. Then again, I'm not sure how many Asians live in Queens or how those who do live there are typically viewed or treated, so I suppose there may be some differences. Black or Jewish works pretty well for some down-on-his-luck lower class NYC nerd who lucks into powers, though, which is why we occasionally see those permutations proposed or used in alternate continuities. As long as nothing about the character is fundamentally rooted in their experiences as a person of a specific race or culture, or as long as the culture subbed in can achieve a similar narrative effect, I'm not bothered.

Cyborg or Blade would work. Being African-American is pretty key to Luke Cage's entire shtick, though.

>everything about the physical appearance of the characters matter
>the basic appearance is timeless and in most cases remains constant

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I don't dislike Zendaya's M.J because it's a different color, since I'm not terminally autistic.

I dislike her version of M.J because it's the same annoying "lel I'm so dissinterested, quirky and different from other girls" archetype that is so absolutely fucking cringe both in real life and in movies

Most of what we have here are borred people and contrarians, nobody likes racebait in genral and Zendaya in particular

God I hate hypocritical cunts like you. You are vapid pests that ruin everything you touch. You don't seem to build. You are here to destroy what you perceive as problematic. One day you will push people to the limit and you won't like the result

because then they are not white any more.

Fucking Jimmy is taller than Superman. What an absolute joke Hollywood is. This is one of the reason why I am done with superhero shows and movies. I will stick to the comics.

Your post is literally irrelevant because her MJ is nothing like Mary jane

Being against race bending is not autistic

kill yourself the last 3 spiderman films are garbage

We bitched about the other ones too.

They're actually racist.
They think it's funny that ginger is an anagram.

I'll vouch for him though Ancient One was more people complaining that it was a woman instead of an old dude.

She can change her hair but she can't change her shitty personality or acting.

Retard, it's the same damn thing in the case of Lex and MJ. "Okay, let's make them quirkier and different from their comic portrayals that those fucking nerds like. If people end up not liking it, we can just say it was an origin story and change their look. The people who watch this shlock are fucking sheep anyway."

MJ just got a racebend sprinkled on top along with it.

I always thought she was pretty cute. Good alternative take on MJ.

Yeah okay.

Forgot some:

>Miss Martian
>Annie
>Josie McCoy
>Bow
>Daphne Blake
>Cecile Horton
>April O’Neil

They stopped filming some time ago so it’s not like they’re doing it in the movies.

Do women with big tits even act in movies anymore?

God that Starfire is so bad. I don't care how much Yea Forums circlejerks that show, I'll never get over how bad starfire looks.

much better

Yeah, it's usually just racist. Comparing it to a real developmental disability is extremely insulting.

Enlighten us on how it is racist

I've come to accept black washing characters is a factor of Hollywood libshittery there's nothing that can be done to change it. So why bother be invested in the topic? What gets me is why they didn't just make her Mary Jane Watson in the first place why this completely unnecessary Michelle character? Are they trying to say a black person isn't good enough to play Mary Jane? If they are that's extremely racist.

BDH aka the mommy

X-Men's Storm will be the blackest black chick to ever walk out of a jungle. Jean Grey and Sue Storm will probably be of mixed race. Not a lot will be made of it. Black Cat will be whiter than white for two reasons: because she's ostensibly a villain, and because we need Zendaya to make some shitty, witty quip about the name being cultural appropriation. And now that I've said that last, you can absolutely hear it in your head as the comedic beat it's going to be.

This. She never needed to prove herself to a bunch of incels

Nah

They'd sell more tickets if it was actually Mary Jane and not this fugly nugly.

>Busty teenagers don't exist
>Redheads don't exist
>Everyone is an ugly flat-chested mulatto
This is your brain on Current Year

oh yeah MJ was a real deal breaker for some people
they should have just hired Kirsten Dunst again
youtube.com/watch?v=VQ54vyZ6XcI
the movie was really missing a strong MJ subplot, it truly would have enhanced the movie

big yikes

Not if her character is still an unlikable pissant.

No. in fact this makes me angry, this is the bare minimum. every actor should be willing to get a dye job and an outfit that kind of looks like the characters (unless they have purple eyes or wear 2 strings). actors no longer put in any effort into looking like the characters and it has set fire under my butt ever since I saw the megan fox's low effort april o'neil

that too. maybe I recall MJ wrong but I liked how she had dreams and goals, she was not a vapid cunt but still wanted some normie shit and thats ok

I agree there is a bare minimum the characters need to go through when portraying certain characters. IF a character is blonde at the very least the actor should be dying their hair to blonde

But the choice is not made by the actor but the director and producers. You can't blame the actors for that.

Chani is described as having red hair.

Absolutely nothing from your incel bigot mouth will come true.

Ameritards are so sheltered, self-centered and unaware of the real world

Yeah cause we all love stormin norman having consensual sex with Gwen Stacy who was dating peter at the time.

>Wouldn't it be weirder to change their ethnicity if they WEREN'T fictional?
The'yre both weird you can't do it in real life don't do it fiction shits' disgusting.
If a Black Panther was turned into a gook, you'd be ok with that is that what you're saying

>Those are the norm
This is your brain on years of sexualized content of woman and teenagers

>redheads don’t exist
>not the norm
>This is your brain on years of sexualized content of woman and teenagers
Nigga what?

Yeap that was exactly my point, you nailed it

Not my fault you’ve never been out of your parents basement

Ok

You literally just proved his point. All but two of those look incredibly similar, and one of the different ones is from an alternate dimension.

>HOW DARE THESE JEWS NOT PUSH MORE BUSTY UNDERAGE GIRLS FOR MY SICK PLEASURE
What the fuck is wrong with white people?

>willingly sexualizes teenagers
That’s sick user

Stop blacking redheads. Bad enough they're so rare irl where I live. Now we got Hollywood making every redhead character a nig nog.

No one said it was the norm you smoothbrain. It's a pretty established part of this particular character that's she's a bombshell.

>DUDE MUH BUSTY UNDERAGED REDHEADS LMAO
>Why do you want to see a underage girl's tits so ba-
>WOOOOW SEXUALIZING CHILDREN MUCH, LIB?
What's your plan here, rabbi?

>It's a pretty established part of this particular character that's she's a bombshell.
t. read a Cracked article once

>he says as he reads spider-man
>a comic book made by Jews
Sure is Yea Forumsumblr in here

She really doesn't look that different from some renditions of MJ. Also Dunst already looked like crap when 2 released.

To call you gay would be an insult to gays.

>he doesn’t read Stan Lee’s soapbox or auto biography
Do you even into comics?

I don’t get off on it, you do

I'll take any of these girls over Sophie Turner for Phoenix. Goddamn, almost none of the GoT actresses can't act.

with red hair she is absolute waifu tier

*AHEM*

I have an announcement to make

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Cultural appropriation! Racist against real red heads !!!

Irish and Scotts were discriminated against so they go against the narrative of white privilege, meaning they must be eliminated.

this

FUCK CRACKERS

AND FUCK DRUMPF

You are stupid or a nigger

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The Chosen fear the ginger.

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I don't like her face or her character's attitude in the first film. Whatever, any MJ is better than no MJ.

>Mandarin was played by a white British actor
Further proof that race is nonsense.

im pretty sure Batista is a asian hapa

>Kingsley
>White

YOU deserve to be holocausted
ftfy

At this point, I don't think anyone can deny that there is a concentrated effort by certain companies and groups to eradicate and replace red-heads in all forms of media.

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Isn't Shang-Chi the Chinese son of the actual Non-Killian Aldrich/Ben Kingsley genuine Mandarin?
The only thing Disney ever needed to "get away" with a villainous Chinese Mandarin (ie sell to Chinese cinemas) is a heroic Chinese lead to oppose him.

>he was created with a specific race in mind
but if they're all fictional and it doesn't matter, then your reason doesn't matter either. iTz fIcTiOnAl dOg™. White black panther with white wakandans is just as viable as your lust for blacks is.

Fuck yeah, Marvel/Jackie Chan crossover would be awesome.

Only incels were angry, she has nothing to redeem herself from.

There are many ghettos belonging to all types of races and Luke Cage could just as easily be Asianized or turned into a white girl or even a hispanic.

She looks like she fucks crackers

>Again, not really the same thing, if they made Batman black, nothing would be amiss, he'd still be rich, famous, and a complete Gary Stu, just like uhhh let's see, Black Panther.
Yes, his old money blue blood WASP background with elite roots going back to the founding of Gotham itself is important to the character and would be undermined by him being black, which you would know if you were an actual comic book fan and not a Tumblr tourist.

Gingers dont have souls.
Blacks have soul, the ones who invented soul music and soul food

>Whatever, any MJ is better than no MJ.
This is false

This, Ive never met people who hate spider-man more than spider-man fans

good lemming, repeat the funny memes you learned on south park.

They even think they are people, so adorable.

>Expecting NPCs to have a original thought
Don’t be retarded user

What am I supposed to be looking at here?
She has red hair but she's still not hot.
Mary Jane should be HOT.
This one isn't.

L O N D O N

I honestly can't tell whats bait and who actually came from another website and is legit virtue signalling anymore.

Isn't soul food that stuff that is comically unhealthy that usually results in heart attacks and other poor diet related issues?

No one is THAT gay.

gross. another movie to avoid

She looks hot

Zendaya's cool and all, but this is shit.

Bridge in the BG. Will she die there?

She isn't gwen

Manual reminder that Zendaya's character is a loose approximation of Michelle Gonzales, to the point where her character's name is literally Michelle.
Manual reminder that Pete didn't actuallly meet MJ until he was out of highschool, and in the early comics teasing the reveal of Mary Jane Watson was a running gag.
Manual reminder that Zendaya is not Mary Jane Watson, and Feige is fucking with you, and by getting mad at it you're falling for his trolling.

I hope they get Ororo right

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waht does facec it tiger mean?

So Anna Diop has Caucasoid features?

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IMAGINE

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