Does the MCU have the same impact on society today as StarWars did back in the 80s ?
Does the MCU have the same impact on society today as StarWars did back in the 80s ?
Every company and their mother wants to have an MCU, so maybe.
No, because star wars was an original albeit derivative story that set the tone for a genre, while the mcu is more like the peak of an already established genre. Plus it has much more direct source material, so no points for originality
genres have fuck all to do with society.
Yes, if not more so
Star Wars was a bigger budget spiritual remake of Flash Gordon and Buck Rodgers. It was original yes, but highly derivative at the same time.
No, but that won't stop Disney from advertising like it does.
Yes it does, no matter how many people on Yea Forums say it isn't. No other company has done a cinematic universe like this. MCU is the star wars of this generation. Screencap this and check back in 30 years
>implying culture can't always get more derivative
look forward to a future where copying marvel is a genre unto itself
Depends on what you mean as society. It certainly has an impact on the media landscape, but it doesn´t really influence anything outside it.
Then again, i wasn´t around in the 80s so i don´t even know what it SW meant back then
Thanks to the internet I'd say moreso. Star Wars was big but to normies it was just glowing swords and *dark* vader saying he's lukes father and if you knew anything beyond that then you were using prime virginity protection. Everyone knows about iron man, spider man, and even fucking thanos for some reason.
Nothing in the age of the internet can have an impact like Star Wars had in 70s/80s.
It's like comparing the success of Fortnite to Pokemania.
Both created a generation of retard manchilds. Cape comics have done that since the beginning though.
He just saw the reality of carol/peter having sex.
We're already seeing that. Sci-fi has been dead for decades. Fantasy finally died with GoT's widely panned finale. Marvel's style is a blend of both plus anime.
The only impact MCU done is creating tv-tier cinematic universe meme that only worked for them and also killed blockbusters and action movies as a genre by lowering quality at the bottom while taking all the money for it..
>30 years
>implying the actual social movements and international tensions wont destroy the world in 15 years
that or the internet becomes heavy regulated for a site like this to exist
Thanos, fucking THANOS is now a household name and one of the most recognizable and well known characters in fiction right now
Thats insane in its own right
Ironically you're ass-backwards since information travels so much faster and there's so many more people. Most normies didn't even know what Pokemon was in the 90s and just thought it was another kids cartoon but you'd be hard pressed to find a human on Earth that doesn't know who Iron Man is.
It's mostly forced memes among "geeks". He will be forgotten in a few years.
>information travels so much faster and there's so many more people.
Precisely my point.
Star Wars endured and spread in spite of not having the advantages the MCU has.
The MCU merely a part of the current zeitgeist, but Star Wars shaped its own zeitgeist.
>Fantasy finally died with GoT
I really hope we see a return of good fantasy. We already get so little compared to capeshit and Sci-fi.
I don't think it that insane given how much he was built up. It's hard to beat something like Darth Vader becoming a cultural icon with only 34 min of screen time across 6 hours of movie.
Star Wars was literally a Scifi westernised version of Samurai Movies that were popular at the time
George Lucas was a weeb
I want pre-Tolkien fantasy to be popular again. I'm tired of all these Middle Earth knock offs.
Middle Eastern Myths are gonna save the Fantasy genre
Based Bahamut is better than any gay dragon
I really wish we could see some really good Nordic fantasy.
Wont happen unfortunately
Its a double edged sword, barely anyone goes to fantasy films out here in the west, and now china, where most of those movies made reliable bank, dont wanna show western fantasy movies, because under some silly law or condition magic in western movies is one step away from foreign religious propaganda apparently
So financially making fantasy movies is a bad idea in Hollywood
I'm reading a lot of pre-Tolkien fantasy and lots of it is dense that I don't see being popular with current consumerist mainstream taste. Gormenghast is getting a new release but I think both that and Dune will fail at the box office.
What a fucking shame, at least games still get some good fantasy.
Its all we got
Things may change when the amazon series for LotR comes out, it might push other streaming platforms to make fantasy shows too
But after GoT botched its landing, if LotR doesnt knock it outta the park, consider fantasy dead for a decade or so in live action
And even if it does, there's the high possibility we're just gonna get more tolkienshit for years
Look at how the Normies were crying about "muh dragons ruining muh immersion" about GoT
The obsession with Realism by pseudo intellectuals has ruined fantasy
Yet they still fuck up realism where it counts, at least they did in the last few seasons. The fucking battle of Winterfell was such a disaster with so much potential. And the who thing with forgetting the Iron Fleet was a joke of a plot point. I have no idea how they thought it would surpass the battle of Helmsdeep.
>lets charge our unarmored skirmishing horse archers head on!
>let's put our winch-powered artillery outside the wall, on ground level!
I bet Ned breathed a huge sigh of relief when his "bastard son" joined the Watch.
>let's hide the civilians, from the necromancers and their army of the dead, in the fucking CRYPTS
Even with the complete failure of a battle plan it would have been interesting to watch if you could see it. Honestly, the last battle I enjoyed in that show was the Wildling attack on the wall.
That formation and battle are honestly the most intellectually offensive part of that last seaaon
Cavalry into the dead of night with zero visuals
Then firing the siege weapons once, that are at the front line
Then using archers
Then the dragon
They pretty much got the whole ideal plan backwards
People love predicting shit that was blatantly foreshadowed. Of course, they put the civilians in the crypts, it was just to throw a bone to the audience.
Adding to this, how the hell did they only set up one trench and no blockades. For all the preparation that was foreshadowed, it's like they had 90% of their forces doing jackshit for preparation.
just like Darth Vader? it's mostly boomer manchilds who cared about Star wars in the first place, and the reason normies know who he is was because he's ingrained in pop culture
Think that with Thanos today
Fuck no.
No, it had a bigger impact.
Fuck off, none of the MCU movies are retellings of comic book arcs, they are all more or less original stories.
Seeing how some people like you are dumb enough to not know how pop culture works is honestly hilarius
Logan was nominated for best adapted screenplay instead of best original screenplay even though it barely followed Old Man Logan
If they're adapting comic books they're not original, and also even if they don't "retell" arcs they sometimes lift stuff directly from the comics, like when winter soldier says "Who the hell is Bucky?" or "Thanos is coming"