And with that the MIB franchise is dead. Good job everyone.
And with that the MIB franchise is dead. Good job everyone
MIB is dead. Long live HIB
Get woke get broke
Thanks! I owe it all to watching that new Adam Sandler Netflix Original
the franchise died with MIB 3 which was basically a budget cut movie.. you notice the special effects were minimal and the aliens were even more minimal. also cause tommy lee jones is up there in age...
Real talk - I had no idea this existed until I saw a marqee at the theater yesterday.
Should've gave the script to the 21 Jump Street guys.
Lesson is don't make a sequel to a Will Smith movie without Will Smith and with a Hemsworth
>A black person starring in Men in Black? Woke SJW onions strike again!
Pretty much this. I think Will Smith was the only reason people even went to the first one. I didn't even know it was based off of anything until years later.
not WIB?
I got the feeling Tommy Lee Jones didn’t want to be in MIB3. He seemed so fucking bored. And the whole K “adopted” J thing was really fucking stupid.
Hitler in Black?
Its not about race, its about tessa thompsons feminist insanity
yeah that shit made no sense... I guess since that was supposed to be the end of the movies, they didnt care about any backstory bullshit
Fuck does HIB mean? Hobo? Hustler? Hulk? Hog? Hitmonkee?
Good, the movies never lived up to the source material anyway. Let it die.
But what if it was Will Smith teaming up with Chris Hemsworth
If a Hemsworth gets announced for Suicide Squad 2 we'll know for sure it's fucked
Half in the Bag
Human in Black it's one of Yea Forums's epic new meme
the only funny moment came when everyone suddenly realized Hemsworth didn't save the world three years ago, the aliens spent the last three years running MIB London and intentionally played up his "hero" status to make him insufferable to everyone
When can Chris Hemsworth cast a memorable character in a good film/franchise other than MCU Thor?
Oh that did come out. And they killed off Smith too.
Blackhat
He was a blackhat hacker named Hathaway who was exactly the opposite of being a computer hacker but completely Thor Ragnarok ripped.
He didn’t adopt him. He wiped his memory and decided to keep an eye on the kid.
The movie sucked . Tried to be funny and Tessa’s character was practically a Mary Sue
independence day 2 and pacific rim 2 were the two movies I never realized they existed until I was changing channels on tv and found them by chance. I remember the first pacific rim movie and how there were constant threads on Yea Forums for days but weirdly there was nothing about pacific rim 2. five minutes into the movie made me realize why there were no threads for pacific rim 2
they wanted to do something funny and interesting.
NO THANKS.
The MiB are a lame premise anyway.
it's a problem with all MCU actors
Good, now give us a proper comic adaptation
Why does everyone look like they're made of CGI?
Why did they even make this movie in the first place? Who was asking for this?
Meanwhile Wll Smith'Aladdin is still tearing up the worldwide box office. Just broke 720 million worldwide this weekend.
Whenwill Hollywood learns that you can't replace the Fresh Prince?
I liked this. The aliens literally obliterated mankind until they found out they literally acted like bugs so they just killed their queen.
I thought that it was dead after MIB 3, I wished that it had died after MIB 2.
Sony has learned it
Fox learned it
WB will learn it and probably announce bankruptcy not too long after
All that's left is Paramount and Universal
It was already dead. Then I did nothing. And now it's still dead.
But I do like being thanked, so I'll accept it.
It is less that it went woke, it is just no one asked for Men in Black 4 anyway.
No one asked for the third movie too.
>iff maek munni dat meen gooood!
Waow
I'd feel worse about it if Tessa Thompson wasn't involved.
That movie sucked dick.
You can't just fall into charisma like Smith's when he is at his very best. The closest thing to Independence Day/Men in Black/Aladdin/Fresh Prince/Hancock/Suicide Squad Will Smith we have is probably Chris Pratt and even he lacks the dramatic chopa for movie like say Pursuit of Happiness.
Can Based Disney hurry up and buy Sony already?
have they already blamed toxic masculinity and the alt-right as the reason why the movie flopped that bad?
You're literally replying to a thread that hinges on a movie not making money.
They should have taken the hint with MIB3
>if critics and audiences like it that means it's bad
Go back to your retard farm to whine about black people doing things like existing some more
Money is objective. It is real. I can touch it. I can count it.
"Good" is nebulous, hard to define and changes for every person. Your good aint my good and vice a versa. So yeah, ot people are willing to part ways with their bartering currency for two hours of throwaway entertainment in droves then that thing they are buying is good or at the very least good enough.
Same
She's pretty insufferable. Hopefully Hollywood will give up on casting her since it's pretty obvious nobody gives a fuck
>WB going bankrupt
Do retards like you see anything other than company wars, or do you honestly not know how much shit they actually own?
And who owns them. If Marvel's comic division can keep going after the years of fuck ups they did because of "Papa (x)", WB still has steam to waste
>then that thing they are buying is good or at the very least good enough.
You just said "good" is nebulous. Those were your exact words. If "good" is nebulous then profitability doesn't necessarily mean quality.
No, because groups built on such things have very little actual power when dealung with blockbuster's SEE Black Panther, Captain Marvel etc. The thing people are blaming are the lack of Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones. This was never a franchise built entirely on concept like Jurassic Park for example. Thia was built on starpower. It is the difference between Star Wars, a film franchise built on concept in where I can stick anybody in a lead role and it should do fine and Raider's of the Lost Ark, built largely on Harrison Ford.
At some point, Marvel, Star Wars and Pixar became the only game in town. With a few notable exceptions like Fast and Furious and Jurassic Park, everyone else is competing for table scraps.
exactly my point
Jurassic World 3 is apparently the last so they won't even have that
I said "adopt". K watched him grow up and kept an eye on him his entire life and helped him out.
You obviously don't if you're retarded enough to think the only thing WB makes are DC movies
but don't people hated that shit movie and didbey shill reviewers to shit on KOTM!?
Yep, the film rights to future Jurassic Park films go up for grabs after the next movie.
Hmmm...I wonder what studio could have the money to make the highest bid for said film rights. Perhaps a studio with 40% of the film markey currently under it's belt.
Now let's kill TS4
Fuck off. I didn't care that she was black. I would've been open to watching the movie. I lost all interest after I saw this quote. Not to mention the 'persons in black' one. And the fact that she blackdirtied Valkyrie.
Hitler is Black
No, critics and internet snarksters hate Aladdin (2019). General audiences love it. It's nostalgic to those in the 18 to 35 demographic, has good songs, is family friendly, has Will Smith in it and a few solid action scenes. It is a traditional summer hit. Meanwhile it's competition, outside of John Wick which has starvpower and solid action beats, are a bunch of movoes that lack most of the previously stated qualities.
>I got the feeling Tommy Lee Jones didn’t want to be in MIB3
Dude barely wants to be in any movie. He's legendary for being cranky as fuck at all times.
>"I didn't care she was black."
>"And the fact that she blackdortied Valkyrie"
You're full of shit.
Damn Aladdin's box office success broke this poor Yea Forumstard's brain
Will Hemsworth ever find success in a role other than Thor?
You sound like you were already looking for an excuse to be mad about her
It deserved to die, like little Tiffany
>John Wick which has star power
Oh yeah those huge stars like Ian Mcshane, Halle Berry, that guy from Game of Thrones, and Anjelica Huston
No, he's basically eyecandy. As Thor he's just filling a role that already sells on name alone.
I get genuinely offended people like the low effort shit that is disney live action remakes. I really do.
Nope
If he was cast in more serious roles once in a while maybe he could show he can act but it seems all he'll be doing is shitty comedies/action hybrids who are basically a death sentence to any real actor
What's funny is that Godzillafags swore King of the Monsters would destroy Aladdin at the box office, and they dismissed any argument against it
>dude, Aladdin is playing on heavy nostalgia
>GODZILLA IS NOSTALGIA TOO EVERYONE KNOWS NOSTALGIA LOOK THEY GOT THE GODZILLA MARCH
>godzilla's more of a niche thing, I don't think the movies have ever been mega blockbusters here
>SHUT UP EVERYONE KNOWS GODZILLA AND EVERYONE KNOWS GHIDORAH YOU'RE SO FUCKING STUPID LITERALLY EVERYONE WILL WANT TO SEE THIS
>i mean you kind of need more than "giant monsters" to make a dent these days, this one doesn't even have any really big actors in it for normies to be interested in
>FUCK OFF GODZILLA IS THE BIG SUPERSTAR YOU MUST BE A PAID DISNEY SHILL
But user, this movie appel t diversity, feminism, and multiculturalism, and these are our strength!
How can this failed?, It was the russians again?!!!
Keanu Reeves has some starpower. So does Halle Berry to a lesser extent. The two of them combined have more star power than just about any other non Endgame/Aladdin related film that is currently in theatres.
>Hemsworth makes another bad movie
News at 11.
>there's a black person in it
>T-THIS MOVIE WAS MADE TO APPEAL TO SJWS!
Jesus
>Thor
>memorable
>MCU
>good
Yeah, those things never do well at the box office in the right context. Now excuse me as I get in my car to go see Aladdin, a movie set in the Middle East with a black lead with no major white actors attached to it. I'm especially looking forward to hearing that new song "Speechless" that Jasmine sings about not allowing the norms of her time keep her from being a strong leader for her people.
Name one big movie with Keanu Reeves in it in the last decade that wasn't John Wick
There was a time when Keanu had star power but that was a long time ago
The comics were good.
Ironically John Wick is what brought his star power back. The thing about star power is that once a star regains that power, their former star power counts again. Suddenly people are remembering all of their previous hits even if they were decades ago.
Remember when you thought Captain Marvel would bomb because you were so sure Disney bought all the theaters.
So will the rights revert to Marvel?
Not at all. I thought Valkyrie should have been a white blonde woman, but I didn't hold it against her for taking the role, it's not her fault they casted the wrong person. I was fine with her being in MiB. I might have gone to see it. But I don't want to support anyone with a chip on their shoulder about white men. I am one, after all.
Disney owns movie theaters...
They shouldn't have cast that ugly bitch and then let her mouth off about how much she hates white people. Fuck you, OP.
No but it did bomb though it's just that Disney bought all the tickets after forcing every theater in the world to only play Captain Marvel
There are twitter screencaps from the opening weekend that prove it
I didn't care that she was black when she was playing an original character made up for the new MiB movie. I'm against all racebending of existing characters on principle. That includes whitewashing, too.
>but I didn't hold it against her for taking the role
Sure user
Out of all the things you mentioned, Men in Black and Fresh Prince are the only good ones.
I especially feel the need to call you out for thinking Pursuit of Happyness has any value.
post them
Go fuck yourself, Marxist.
What did he mean by this?
It was sarcasm but I can understand why you wouldn't get it since there's at least two people in this thread who genuinely believe that was true
Thanks for confirming you've never seen any MIB film other than this one.
Look, I'm not saying Keanu is a huge draw. But when compared to anyone not named Will Smith or Robert Downey Jr., he is a bigger star than anyone else with a movie out right now. No one goes to see movies because Taron Egerton, Chris Hemsworth, Sophie Turner or Vera Farmiga. Also don't forget that I pointed out that the action was draw in of itself as well. No one can sell a movie on star power alone anymore. The days of Gravity or I Am Legend or Cast Away are well over. But that doesn't mean that star power doesn't have some importance left.
>blaming racists
the first 3 MIB movies had a black lead,
I haven't seen anyone claim Godzilla would beat Aladin in the box office, and I frequently read Yea Forums. Godzilla fans are generally happy that it kind of succeeded and that we're getting more movies in the future.
It's an NPC talking point soon he'll say something like "not an argument" or "get woke go broke"
>everything I don't like is a conspiracy to push a political agenda!
The absolute state of Yea Forums
Why does Hollywood hire ANYONE and EVERYONE from a MArvel movie and assume that's the reason people go to see movies.
Chris seems like a nice guy but outside of Thor his movie are very forgettable.
Oh, yeah, I thought it was at first but look at where we are.
>nd I frequently read Yea Forums
Why would you subject yourself to that?
>literally talk in the open about pushing an agenda
it's not even subtle
Now the franchise can fuck off and die in peace. The original comics, animated series, and first two films were the only things worth a damn.
Chris Evans is a chameleon. The man can do anything.
I enjoy seeing people scream at eachother.
It's like a zoo.
This isn't just Marvel, Hollywood has done this for decades. If someone's in a movie that made a lot of money, studios are going to want to put them in other movies in hopes of also making a lot of money. How do you think actors build their careers?
>hasn't realized the tactic of "you're crazy" into "so fucking what?"
You guys don't watch alot of films, do you? Rush, Cabin in the Woods, Bad Times at the El Royale are just some of the Hemsworth flicks.
>Talks about wanting to push an agenda
>just because you don't it like doesn't meant its a "conspiracy" to push a political agenda!
Are you retarded?
Because Hollywood can't make new stars anymore.
Most of the tv stars transitioning to film are not of the quality of the past when guys like Tom Hanks, Will Smith and Bruce Willis were coming from tv to the big screen. What few do have potential don't feel special because unlike in the 80s, 90s and 00s we see our movie stars too often for them to be special.
To paraphrase Sidney Poitier, if they see you for free all week, they won’t pay to see you on the weekend. Social Media, easy access to televison films and former movies make it so it isn't special to see the cast of GOT on the big screen.
I don't even get this new tactic
trying to get people not to care is never going to work on people with an autistic obsession
they should have done the jump street crossover. rip in pease
>Bad Times at the El Royale
Shit, I meant to watch this. Was it any good?
Will Smith is the exception to most race based Hollywood bullshit. Excluding Independence Fay, where it is on the record that initially FOX didn't want him in the lead specifically because he wasn't white, the guy went on to become the biggest movie star in the world for a solid decade. Even now he is still one of the few old movie stars with some drawing power left in him.
Faggots at Yea Forums literally said it would beat End Game and end capeshit.
>he doesn't count as black because I say so
what?
It's alright. Way simpler than I thought but with a good gimmick.
Wasn't that going to be after they did a female Jump Street?
Memorable impiles people saw them or that people felt his character stood out. People remember Cabin in the Woods but not because of his performance and no one saw Rush or Bad Times.
Because they're the biggest movies currently so obviously the stars have to be the biggest stars
How come the non-Disney studios are so incompetent this year? Disney still puts out their fair share of trash as we can see with Aladdin but audiences still come out for it
Except be in a successful movie outside of the MCU
>Faggots at Yea Forums literally said it would beat End Game and end capeshit.
Everyone, especially kaiju fans know that what they're enjoying is an incredibly niche market so I find it incredibly hard to believe a Godzilla fan would claim KOTM could make more money than fucking Endgame.
Yea Forums on the other hand sure, they claim the next potentially big thing is going to be the end of Disney.
nostalgia but it won't work forever
lol have sex
It had one good movie and one good cartoon, it should have stayed that way.
The trailer literally ends with Hemsworth correcting himself "the men and women in black"
If you're going to change the name, make it Majestic 12 or Division 6.
>this year
They're incompetent every year this is just the year people finally noticed
I thought the third movie they were setting up could have been pretty cool too.
Don't remind me user
PacRim was /m/'s greatest love and then came PacRim 2
Or be a meme:
Remember when Pikachu was supposed to outdo Captain Marvel? I remember.
I actually think the second one is better.
I bet the people who sat through Pacific Rim 2 Resurgence thought the same thing
>female jump street
>its a flop
>hollywood: "THE JUMP STREET FRANCHISE IS NO LONGER PROFITABLE"
God I hate jews.
remember all those empty theaters for captain marvel
I remember
King of the Monsters was pretty good.
>DCucks
Incoming ban.
This news gives me yet another reason to be concerned for Sony's upcoming Masters of the Universe flick. Sure, its writers may have penned the screenplay for the original Iron Man movie, but they also wrote this.
More like Hollywood should come up with new ideas.
That was a sad reality, not a meme.
>its writers may have penned the screenplay for the original Iron Man movie, but they also wrote this
Which means IM was just a fluke.
I do
I also remember Shazam was supposed to crush "le Captain Fungus XD", Detective Pikachu was going to stop Endgame and be the second highest grossing movie of the year, and Godzilla was going to stomp Aladdin
Hollywood is like scifi: it should have died out when the 20th century ended.
>Shazam was supposed to crush "le Captain Fungus XD"
And it did. Not in terms of box office, but in others.
I don't. Why don't you post those handful of tweets from days before the movie even opened to sell your point again
MIB was dead before this.
>Why don't you post those handful of tweets from days before the movie even opened to sell your point again
gas lighting this hard
>And it did
Oh Yea Forums where would we be without your retards and your ridiculous nonsense
If this is true then Hollywood really is in trouble when half of their current stars are being outed as sexual predators
Smile.
>Sure, its writers may have penned the screenplay for the original Iron Man movie
>There was much improvisation in dialogue scenes, because the script was not completed when filming began (the filmmakers had focused on the story making sense and planning the action). Favreau felt that improvisation would make the film feel more natural.
Iron Man """""writers"""""
>HOW DARE YOU NOT SPEND MONEY TO SEE SMTH YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE
Come on now OP
> Not in terms of box office, but in others
So, then not at all? Unless you think the reviews of internet incels take precedent over general audience's willingness to part with their cash. I know that when I invest 100 million dollars in a project, I care mpst about the opinions of Yea Forums and Yea Forums over John and Jane Doe.
>If this is true then Hollywood really is in trouble when half of their current stars are being outed as sexual predators
You realize this is exactly why the MeToo thing blew up the way it did, right?
It's not like the sequels with Will Smith were any better.
How do you think you were born?
This
Legendary just greenlit eight more Godzilla movies because people on Yea Forums called it kino and they're pretty sure that means good
it didnt go woke, it was just another Unnecessary sequel
infact most movies this year have done poorly are sequels
>Will Smith is the exception to most race based Hollywood bullshit.
Is it because he doesn't act like a piece of shit and actually has talent?
Gee, maybe it isn't about race, but culture and refinement, and you're just grasping at straws because you love to be offended. Putting monkeys in designer gowns and parading them around on stage doesn't make them symbols of anything but the rampant stupidity in Hollywood and your willingness to support it.
As long as we're clear
>I care most about the opinions of Yea Forums and Yea Forums
It shows...
if only narcissistic women didn't high jack it for their own personal gain
Financially they sure as shit were
People don't want to see Will Smith-less sequels to Will Smith movies. Even the retards at WB figured that out which is why they changed Elba's character
Quality is subjective but profita aren't Rrgardless of MiB 2 and 3' "quality" people went to go see them, people bought the toys, people took trips down to Florida to ride the ride at Universal. People cared. They don't care about the new Hemsworth film.
Hollywood has always been rather sparse on new ideas. From the very beginning they've been adapting existing works into films. The best era for original cinema was the 70s up into the mid 80s. The 90s saw a resurgence of studio-driven blockbusters.
It's sad to me the only somewhat original movie that has come out in recent years that I enjoyed is John Wick, which isn't even a particularly interesting or innovative series. At its core it's a rehash of an action genre Hollywood has beaten into the dirt over the last 20+ years, but at least it isn't a remake, sequel, prequel, spin-off, or re-imagining of anything else.
Women in Black reboot soon?
Good
I wish every single franchise would die already, so people were forced to come up with original ideas again. Seriously, why every movie needs to be part of a franchise or a remake to make money now?
>Legendary greenlits 8 more Godzilla movies.
No, don't give me false hope. I'm happy that we're even getting new Godzilla films at all
No, because plenty of talented black actors got held down over the years. It's just Will was so chatismatic and he was so good in Independence Day and it was so successful that any arguments against him from executives died a quick death.
says the person who skipped out on Kobu for Sausage Party
It's called sarcasm idiot
You'll be lucky to get another Godzilla movie in theaters anytime in the next DECADE with how bad king of the monsters bombed
this movie was just a way to cut into the capeshit movies that have been dominating the scene for a while.. it was their way to push something other than iron man or hulk or any of that other bullshit super hero shit.
Because people don't want to watch anything they don't recognize
It's been this way since the recession you goddamn retard
That's a very unpopular opinion.
You are making that assumption based on what? It's wrong btw
Independence Day was fun.
>This year
Implying they aren't incompetent every year
>B-But muh Spiderman!
Into The Spiderverse was an outliner. Not an exception to the rule
ya man that's why Ironman was such a huge success
>didn't care that she's black
>cares that she's black
That is Will Smith's first good movie in a long time.
I thought he was talking to Hollywood
>Will smith didn't star in the first two MIB movies
No you retard, the commercial where Hemsworths tagalong rants "its not men in black" is why no one wants to see it, the movies were popular for crazy space action that you were never really sure what would happen next with, making a main character a super special mary sue who bitches about her amazing opportunity isn't something people want to watch
That was in 2008. Back then people went to see Hancock solely becaise it had Will Smith's face on the post and nothing else. Those days are over.
We're in one of those down years again when a handful of movies eats up all the box office for everyone else. It was the same a few years ago and then 2017 and 2018 happened anyway. It's just all more pathetic this time, because it really is nothing but Disney coming on top now. Nothing's changing guys.
Disney owns, what, two thirds of the movie industry now? They have the MCU, Star Wars, all of Fox and their own movies. In terms of pop culture, they basically own all of cinema.
Concussion and Focus were good movies. Focus was even a moderate hit.
the MIB franchise died with 3, this is just the evacuating of the bowels
and Disney bought out all their competition so there is no incentive to actually make a good movie anymore
Walt was right about the jews this whole time
>MIB 3
>people went to go see them
they objectively did not
>plenty of talented black actors get held down
>but not this one, because he was so talented they couldn't make excuses
You just can't admit the majority of black "actors" are just dreg who can't do their jobs.
It has to be fantasy racism because you're unable to believe the reality.
>n-no they're good actors, they're just held down!
>they're not as good as the actually good black actors, but they're still good because they have to be! Because they're black!
Fucking pathetic.
You know why bad white actors get their gigs? Because they look pretty and can suck dick.
When a pretty black actor shows up despite the fact they can't act, they'll get a gig anyway, too, if they can do the same.
Are you illiterate? I didn't mind that she, as a black woman, played a new character in the new MiB. I might have seen the movie. She was not a good fit for Valkyrie, since Valkyrie should look like a valkyrie. I didn't hold that against her personally, but it didn't endear her to me either. Now that I've heard about her SJW views I'm just sick of Hollywood trying to push her on us. She can go away now.
I don't remember the last time I watched a modern movie.
Feels good, man.
it was fine. The first movie was considerably better, though
>The aliens literally obliterated mankind until they found out they literally acted like bugs so they just killed their queen.
So they ripped off Enders Game?
No one cares about this. One would think you’d have learned this when Captain Marvel made $1 billion.
No one even asked for a second one.
ya man it being a MCU movie before endgame has nothing to do with it
And Sony's gradual slide to death continues.
>people likes feminazis
Sure, Satan.
No reason to change. And that goes both ways, apparently.
Do you ever wonder if they'll stop or change direction?
And Starship Troopers
Liar. You torrented and watched Now You See Me 2 and you didn't want anyone to know.
But I know, user. I know.
>WB going bankrupt
Never mind that they're owned by AT&T, do you have any idea how big WB actually is? It's going to take a lot more than a few shaky films (That they're going to make money off in the ancillary market anyway) to bankrupt them
And? If you guys were right, people would have avoided it anyway. Or at least it would have made less than a billion. Ordinary people don’t care about what you care about.
Women do. There are billions of them you know.
Dead is dead, user.
I can't imagine anyone who would willingly spend time watching Now You See Me 2 after the first one
end game was a movie taking over a decade to build up to
it had an unnatural amount of hype around it but please continue to ignore that
>Hmmm...I wonder what studio could have the money to make the highest bid for said film rights
Right now it's probably WB since Disney spent a lot buying Fox and
>women are stupid
News at 11.
so that's why Ant-Man and the Wasp made a billion dollars
oh fucking wait
Captain Marvel was not Endgame.
Everyone hates you guys. You have to realize that. When you went against Captain Marvel, you helped promote it as a feminist masterpiece. When you supported Alita, you helped tank it. Stop doing things you morons. You are despised.
would have if disney bought seats for their movies
god I don't even know if Disney Jurassic Parks would be better or worse than Jurassic World. It's hard to imagine a movie worse than Jurassic World, but Disney always seems to find a way.
The main problem of the movie was the lack of classic Will Smith and not enough Goldblum, the battle against the queen was pretty nice. As I mentioned, killing the queen renders the entire invasion useless and she only has one objective in the movie: destroy the universal resistence's sphere. She literally took a nuclear explosion directly and survived. There are actually thousands of queens that have conquered several planets and the plot of the third movie was going to be mankind leading the resistance because all the other races of the resistance were destroyed by the aliens.
people like you are going to get Trump reelected
I look forward to 2020
I'd imagine Alita's weird uncanny valley anime eyes did more to help the movie tank than some autists on Yea Forums
I never knew i had this power. Thanks plebbit
The elderly are going to get Trump elected just like last time.
anime movies never do well
Who knows more about theme parks then Disney? They could make a great Dinosaur theme park film.
>The elderly
it can't be that Hillary was just so unlikable that even Trump beat her, no it was old people
I can't wait for 2020
I dunno, a movie about a theme park breaking down and killing a bunch of people probably isn't the best PR for theme parks
Yeah. Old people, who are the only reliable voters, did not like her. They liked the guy who hates Mexicans like they do.
>If you guys were right, people would have avoided it anyway.
As someone who works with a whole warehouse of "ordinary people" obsessed with Disney / MCU shit, you have no idea how those people think.
No, they didn't like it, but they still recommended it. Think about why.
"Yes John, but when Pirates of the Caribbean breaks down, the pirates don't eat the tourists."
holy shit how far removed from reality are you
starting to think this is just some good bait, good job user you got me
he got elected because he pandered to smaller states. Nothing to do with likability or voter demographics or people being called Nazis.
Young people don’t vote. That’s a fact. And no one votes with comic book movies in mind.
It was dead as soon as they decided to make it Fast and Furious: MIB edition. They completely missed the appeal of the franchise.
That's stupid. Are you a Hollywood exec?
Didn't he get less votes but thanks to the United State's ridiculous Electoral College he won?
The woke argument supposedly revolves around the main characters being played as sexless androids instead of allowing any kind of banter between them or using either actor's sex appeal. 'Woke' isn't just about representation, there's also this new puritanical movement going on that's actually a lot more sinister.
But those states are where bigots tend to live.
The campaign differences were pretty obvious.
>Let's Make America Great Again!
vs.
>It's Her Turn!
During an economic down-turn.
The fact that Clinton got any votes at all is more worrying than Trump winning.
Same reason you assume actors are the main thing that makes a movie good: you're retards.
So acknowledging women exist is an SJW thing now?
Yes, haven't heard? Any time a movie, tv show or video game stars a non-white male character it is inherently an SJW assault on white men. It's as if we aren't good enough to lead said piece of entertainment.
you mean the majority of votes cast? The next Dem is going to win if they can get the Rust Belt back, which shouldn't be terribly difficult given how eminently aware those voters are that Trump bamboozled them.
Yes. Small states. Which are red states full of racist, angry old people. Dedicated voters.
In this context yeah totally
The second movie was absolute garbage.
there are old people everywhere, user
>Aladdin dominating the summer box office while MiB:I flops
You think Will Smith is having a big laugh about all this?
That wasn't her slogan, it was Stronger Together.
Fuck's sake, I don't even like that bitch, but she had enough problems to the point where you don't need to make up some more.
>Carolfag has shit taste
The movies were good
Am I the only one who liked this?
First movie is basically perfect
second one was bad
3rd one was okay
international looks bad...didn't see it
cartoon was enjoyable.
the first one was
the others...less so
>Am I the only one who liked this?
You kidding? MIB is top zoomer-filter.
Pointless revisionism is.
Men in Black is an old phrase from another time that means more than just "male humans in black suits". It implies impenetrable secrecy and deception, deep conspiracies, and powers beholden to laws and logic only they know.
SJWs take everything with gender-specific usage too literally, as if the "all of humankind" connotation should be stripped from the word "man" because it offends them to even see the word naked. Even as a joke, correcting an antiquated phrase like that is meant to make the speaker sound like a gormless bloke who is only capable of understanding anything at surface value.
>uhh durrr... there's womens in the group too right boss?
>so uhhhrrr... why don't we call it men and womens in black?
That's the joke, but they take it seriously. That's why they're a joke.
Maybe you weren't in on it before, but now you know better.
its weird that the film sequels never really "worked" but the cartoon did a bunch of episodes that would have been fine as basis of a movie
so its not like its impossible to expand the film series.
Not sure what fiorentino's problem was (heard shes a problem to work with) but she should have come back as an agent.
>why every movie needs to be part of a franchise or a remake to make money now?
Because original ideas are hard and don't come with an existing fanbase. If instead of a MiB movie this was "Alien Exerminators" with only changes to make it not MiB, it would probably flop even harder, since people can be adverse to seeing things they don't recognize and associate with feeling good.
Toho is going to make another after 2020. I doubt it'll be as good as Shin was, but they won't stop making more.
Boyega running around a junkyard set that looked straight out of a SyFy original production like a cut-rate Indiana Jones pretty quickly tipped me off to the fact it wasn't going to be worth my time. Then it somehow got worse at a geometric rate.
At this point, the movies are more about global powers about to start wars using dinos.
I guarantee you nobody was cheering at him saying that, everybody understood it as a joke. The joke is that he's a man trying to prove he isn't sexist by overcompensating with an awkward attempt at sounding inclusive. They did the same joke in Ragnarok.
They're far from owning even half of the US film industry.
Yet he's supposed to come across as an endearing lead with more than loose nuts and bolts rattling around in his noggin. Not much of a joke, really.
I want to act surprised the writing is this bad and making it to the final cut with a budget that big, but it's been this way for a decade now.
it was way better than "muh time travel bullshit" 3rd movie
I honestly think they inflate lot of these movies budget. That or they like to pay sobrecosts to CGI artists that are providing things that look from a TV series budget.
They should review the state of digital effects and adjust their cost to their actual value.
not half, but one company owning a third of the film industry is still insane
That was honestly one of the best deliveries in Ragnarok.
Gotta pay down those student loans.
A bad sequel in a franchise whose only good movie was the first one wasn't financially successful?
>neckbeard NPC ponders...
must be because it has a black woman in it!
nice reddit spacing
faggot
that's an antique neckbeard NPC saying
people were reddit spacing on the first day Yea Forums was made, go back to complaining about normal people on /pol/ and /r9k/
MIB's appeal is in its retro Americana pastiche - Roswell, Area 51, the G-Men. You take MIB out of America and you remove the entire point of the series. I am not from the USA and I had absolutely zero interest in an "International" edition.
fuck off namefag
No, it was much worse, and that's saying something.
You managed to perfectly summarize my exact problem with this spinoff. Thanks
But they don't.
>there are six major film companies including Disney
>these six companies control the vast, vast majority of the film industry
>Disney buys one of them outright
>this somehow does not mean Disney owns a third of the film industry
That's assuming all major film companies are equally sized, which doesn't make sense if one can buy another. You need to look at different metrics, like how many films they put out or what percent of theater screentime is dedicated to them.
Disney is still huge with other metrics though. At least half of the 10 top grossing films last year were theirs.
Haven't watched it but may be its the movie was just bad.
The previous movies weren't very good either. Actually only the first one was ok
You’re an idiot
Will Smith was on all MiB movies, dumb dumb.
The one with Jennifer Aniston?
that's the fucking joke, you moron
>being a speciesist when the agency works with non-humans all the time
we're a democratic republic not a full blown democracy
learn about the government before you spout such shit
Can nonhumans even be agents? Was Zed an alien or just comically physically capable?
It's less that and more that it was a glorified cameo
Although there is a fair chunk of fatigue that comes down to age, Will Smith was also showing it in that one
>ridiculous Electoral College
The actual ridiculous part of the system here is first past the post voting, not the EC. FPTP is a bigger obstacle to our "democracy" than Wyoming almost mattering twice a decade.
Not only does it not mean that because that's not at all how maths work, but the US aren't the only country producing movies.
>Lesson is don't make a sequel to a Will Smith movie without Will Smith and with a Hemsworth
Will Smith can't carry a movie for shit these days, they needed to change the characters. However choosing the 'can't act for shit and is a charisma black hole' Tessa as a replacement for Will Smith was a suicide act, and yes, Hemsworth as the replacement for Tommy Lee Jones was fucking retarded as well.
a democratic republic means the citizens don't vote directly on the laws, but rather elect representatives to do so for them. It has nothing to do with how the leader is elected
the leaders we elect vote on who is the next president
the electoral collage is there so we don;t end up with mob rule. It would be fucked up if the east coast and west coast got to decide everything for the entire country
Was the "pug" actually an agent in the second one?
But at least Will Smith seems to have stopped demanding Jaden be put into everything now.
>Stronger Together
First I heard of that.
>barely any coverage about her platform
>entire campaign memed around the fact she had a vagina
>every news outlet could barely contain their excitement for the president to have tits
>the hilarity when she lost
That's all I got out of the election.
Well, that and red trucker hats can make anyone look like a redneck.
Rednecks vs. histrionics and the rednecks won. Can't wait for next year's juggalo president.
i don't know he carried Aladdin, i honestly thought he was going to be the weakest link going in. Turns out that was the rest of the cast.
It was a pretty bad movie anyway. Not even Will could carry a train wreck like that.
Wait, "I'm with her" wasn't the slogan? I never heard that other one, probably because it's so generic.
He carried it 725 million dollars.
I didn't mind Hemsworth as much as the unengaging plot and the obnoxious pawn guy.
The star alien dudes actually looked kind of interesting, but despite being the 'villains' for the first half or two-thirds of the movie got barely any screentime and had zero presence, and were wasted on a boring 'but they were GOOD THE WHOLE TIME' twist that everyone saw coming.
I know the movies have been less and less focused on the 'secret undercover agency acting secret and undercover', but I lost what little hope I had for the franchise actually sticking to its concept when they rode an alien hoverbike through a crowded marketplace and had a gun fight right out in broad daylight. It would've been interesting to see a chase sequence where both parties have to act as inconspicuous as possible, but can't have that I guess. Even John Wick 2's scene in the subway terminal where they're shooting at each other with suppressed guns hidden behind their jackets was better than this shit
How is this related to comics or cartoons?
MIB started as a comic. It's fair game, even if the resulting spinoff material has barely any resemblance to it.
It wasn't
This. Men In Black has literally nothing to do with comics or cartoons.
No, people liking the original carried this movie, the response for Will Smith's genie has been lukewarm at best (though to be fair, it's not easy replacing a top-of-his-game Robin Williams for whom the part was tailored).
user, you're talking about MIB fans, why wouldn't they be making conspiracies?
It was, but he wasn't the weakest link i thought he was. He was actually the most enjoyable.
Animated series too. (But then again, any film - original or otherwise - that has animated serial spin-offs are honorary Yea Forumsntent.)
Retard
>first movie ends with the team being a black man and a woman
>four movies later it's going woke with a white man on the team
How do you fuck up such a simple concept.
by thinking people want shadowy global politics in their adventure/horror movies about dinosaurs eating people
It was.
It does get worse at a geometric rate UNTIL
Charlie day fucks that brain
Then it turns into a proper showa era kaiju movie. Too bad you have to wade past so much shit for it to get fun.
Well the first movie was also about the dangers of misusing science for profit and about a grouchy 40 year old learning he actually liked kids, it was never just about dinos eating people.
And small states are full of the old who want the jobs that destroyed their very bodies back.
Hiliary sucked no doubt, but lets not pretend that Trump didn't execute every fear he could that the old hold.
This is a cope while multi billion dollar corporations like jewgle or Twitter suppress more right wing ideas and people act like they’re silly men’s joking around.
The black is referring to government issue suits...
Thats why some groups push for run off voting. Would push for candidates to campaign in all states instead of just a few swing states.
She had multiple ones because her campagin sucked.
Love trumps hate is another one.
Wish we could make this happen, but the established parties have no reason to go for it when there's only two of them. If we had a larger group voting third party, they'd probably be more motivated to do a new system.
>Love trumps hate
I hated this one because I couldn't stop reading it as "Love Trump's hate", which isn't really how the double meaning was supposed to work.
The shadowy premise could work if the script isn't treated like complete shit and actual talent hired.
But this Hollywood, so can't expect that.
It's still Disney vs WB vs Universal vs Paramount vs Columbia (Sony) so at best it's 1/5th
I liked him in Ghostbusters 2.
I like how you think you're not the retard here.
Yeah, the suits are really dark grey at best.
I only just recently remembered there was a third movie
I never been to reddit.. and I space apart also.. so what else you got faggot?
Are you guys saying you don't want a movie about dinowars?
It would be like spitting on the first movie's themes, but I guess World did that already so who cares.
not after 3, World, and Fallen Kingdom, no
The MiB Animated Series theme is, as Will would have put it back then, absolutely dope. Never actually watched it though.
Chris Pratt really isn't that charismatic. In fact I can't think of a single actor in 2019 that has charisma. Maybe Keanu Reeves? And she's not the best actress but I thought Gal Gadot was pretty charismatic in Wonder Woman.
You people hate us but get mad when we say we don't like white people, make up your mind already.
>there are people watching that dreck of cinema
Yeah it turns out Yea Forums is a very small minority which probably explains why most of you can't predict box office for shit
Yeah
He left him alone his entire adult life until he accidentally stumbled across an alien, then he gave him the opportunity to replace him.
Pratt can be charismatic with a decent script, which I guess sets him below Smith.
>A Sony movie bombed
Say it ain't so, this is such a rare occurrence that has never been seen before by generations
If I wasn't a lazy faggot. I would storytime the entire series as I have it downloaded.
I feel like the only person here who actually liked the film.
The problem is, a man shouldn't have to try to prove he's not sexist, it shouldn't be something that concerns him.