American Aggretsuko?

Don't really care for the characters. They act like children, even though they're supposed to be like thirty. Adult animation was a mistake.

you can tell T&B struggles to find it's legs. Even now, I'm still not sure they found it

Stacy and Becky dynamic going on here

It's not THAT bad

which one is stacy?

They're both losers, but Tuca is more alpha than Bertie.

>They act like children, even though they're supposed to be like thirty.
That's just women born after 1980.

In the beginning

>Don't really care for the characters. They act like children, even though they're supposed to be like thirty.

Welcome to modern adults

Agreed

The creator put a lot into one season because of the possibility it wouldnt get a second season

That's what millennials are like

>American Aggretsuko?
Not really
Aggetsuko is about a woman in her mid twenties, has logic more based in reality, and is a lot more based around Japanese experiences, some situations may be silly but it's not abstract like T&B can be, and Retsuko being in her mid twenties and without a husband is more of a problem to Japanese women than American women.
Tuca and Bertie is based in a more absurd reality, about two women in their 30's who both are emotionally/mentally fucked in different ways from their past, learning to transition into adulthood comfortably, and face the demons that they've been ignoring.

That's just a difference in cultural values. Even very cynical Americans still believe deep down that you should chase your dream and you can make it work if you try hard enough. Japanese conformist culture says that's crazy, you need to keep up your wage slave routine and you'll be happy enough just with hobbies and friends.

If Aggretsuko were truly realistic she'd have an episode grappling with suicidal impulses.

It just feels more like different species of Bojack to me.
If it wasn't for the plant people I'd probably just say they take place in the same universe and this is just a bojack side story about some other sad animal people.

>More like Broad City and Regular Show had a baby.
That’s horrifying

Omigod wimmin

Broad City and Bojack Horseman

Tumblr.
It's just tumblr.

The West is slowly but surely inching away from male protagonists. Every male character will be the butt of the joke as well as central conflict. Every resolve will end with female empowerment.

I blame Tiffany Haddish.

But Tuca & Bertie is explicitly about two female assholes. Bertie is constantly the butt of the joke due to her extreme introversion and general weirdness, and Tuca is characterized as a basically toned down Bojack (slobbish, scattered, self-destructive, impulsive, and a loser).
Whereas two of the 3 prominent male characters are shown as being lovable and friendly, with speckle also being successful, stable, and the show actually respecting his interest in architecture and not making a joke out of it. The only male character to be shown negatively is only shown that way because he's legitimately more of an asshole than the leads and is only taken down once he does some fucked up shit on camera.

So if basically this show is the exact same as any other "adulting" or coming-of-age show about young assholes and the leads being chicks only matters on a surface level. This show is one of the few examples of how to do female characters "right".

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>and the show actually respecting his interest in architecture and not making a joke out of it.
Actually scratch this line. I forgot the bits where it shows him actually doing work and it's played off as a joke and child's work. Still there was that scene in the rich neighborhood where he was geeking about architecture and that wasn't played off.

>youtube.com/watch?v=G8r48HzrYHE

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>didn't watch the show

They’re physically fit and heterosexual.

Tuca is bi

There are gays in this show. Tuca is a gay.

>the bits where it shows him actually doing work and it's played off as a joke and child's work.
to be fair they also make fun of Berties job having her gone for a week and nobody even notices

>“”””bi”””” women

I thought it was there to highlight how messed up Bertie was or how weird the situation was, having a person almost exactly like her instantly standing up to an abusive employer. She was probably mainly so intimidated/sexually aroused/conflicted over him because she had all that childhood sex abuse from an older man

I took that as the show purposely not trying to make a realistic depiction of a highly skilled and specialized profession, and making fun of shows that do. Like the writers just threw up their hands and said "Man I don't know what a fuckin architect does. They draw houses n shit right?"

You and I are one and the same

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Best boy

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He is definitely the best character on the show. He tries so hard.

I thought he was going to turn out to be a douchebag or something so the girls could stick it to the patriarchy and "empower" themselves by becoming spinsters together. I'm glad he's actually a really swell and supportive dude.

Did it work?
hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tuca-bertie-creator-wants-men-hate-watch-her-new-netflix-animated-comedy-1204913

No, Yea Forums actually really likes it.

There's nothing to really hate unless you're the kind of /pol/tard that's brainwashed themselves into radicalism and are a step away from shooting up a church anyway. Stories about rape, sexual harassment, and feminism are not bad. BAD stories about those things are bad. And when the fuck has Yea Forums ever had a problem with ANYBODY being gross?

>"I don't just want women who already agree with me to watch it. I don't want to just preach to the choir. I want men to get comfortable with the idea of women being funny and gross."

There's not really any job in the show that isn't played off as a joke so I wouldn't call that a specified attack on Speckle.

Lucky post user, have some (you)s

I really like the art direction and willingness to actually animate characters instead of every animated sitcom being some version of the static Simpsons clone. It was a joy to watch.
That said, a lot of the jokes fell flat and as a guy I was just not the target audience for the female centered situation comedy/drama.

This definitely isn't an aggretsuko clone, but it is in the strain of animated slice of life content centered around young/working adults. It's warms my jaded heart to see animation work its way further into an adult niche in the american culture and I see it as one in a number of shows paving the way for adult animation.

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The Simpsons USED to be well animated.

Sure but they moved away from the expressive cartoon-y style and moved to a more realistic and static (and easier to animate) format and that's the simpsons model.
Shows that copy its animation format ala family guy/american dad/bob's burgers/cleveland show/futurama/etc. aka basically every adult animated sitcom since the simpsons go for the easier-to-animate later style.

That was the point, but they introduced and effectively killed off a character just to do it
You can't have Bertie realize Pete is a bit of a jerk by herself? You can't have Bertie confront her fears by making the decision to go to the Jelly Lakes herself?
Why are so many characters making Bertie confront her own stuff and how can you really call it character development if every character is dragging her across the threshold of "having done something"
Tuca's character development is similar--even though she tries to confront her problems she mostly just messes up other people's lives instead of taking anybody's advice like once...only to confront her problems in a dream sequence and be instantly better Though it's nice to know that this character is already moving forward by doing things like not drinking anymore

>You can't have Bertie realize Pete is a bit of a jerk by herself?
No, that's the point. She was into Pete so she had no idea what he was actually doing until he did it to someone else.
>Why are so many characters making Bertie confront her own stuff and how can you really call it character development if every character is dragging her across the threshold of "having done something"
Because people don't DO THAT. Nobody confronts their fears without external motivation. It's easier to just run away and there's usually no downside to doing so.

No, Aggretsuko is actually interesting and relatable.
This is just cringeworthy.

I'm one of 10 people in the Universe who enjoys the whacky aspects of Bojack more than the serious ones.

So yeah, I really enjoyed this series.

Don't forget bighairystallion69 driving hundreds of miles because the person he was typefucking was having a medical emergency.

Literally too good for this world.

just like your post

>bighairystallion69
The mad lad. I'm glad he and Speckle are pals now.

Don't forget that he got Tuca a pizza on the way too. He's a fucking bro and I hope the show has an episode where nice shit happens to him.

this show gives me a fucking anxiety attack

Stomach region actually.

I think the part where he talks about the 8 (or 6 I forget) hour drive and how he kept questioning if it was a good idea, but still drove and picked her up was my favorite

My issue was with tuca like her whole I'm sober now sthick didn't gel with me like she seems impulsive already so when she's not for just that one episode for the date I really didn't feel it
For most of tuca story it was tell dont show we dont get to see much of what she was like drunk and the fallout of it so I never got a sense of gravitas like when there was that flashback to her being taken out on a gurney for alcohol poisoning it didn't help me understand berties position on the hospitalization problem and other things like that the show just rushed through that made things not land right for me

that was hot yo