Villians thread

Is kingpin a spidey villian or a daredevil villian?

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It suits him to be the villain to multiple heroes because of his wide reaching influence. We need better memes than this.

He started off a a Spider-Man villain and has appeared quite often as one of his rouge galleries but he's much more of a personal villain to daredevil and has also appeared as an antagonist towards him, more so than spidey.

Okay same question but Punisher.

Okay same post but worded better.

Yes

Well, he was off limits to the Spectacular Spider Man cartoon, so apparently Marvel considers him a Daredevil one.

Fine, Mr. Anal. The Punisher originally debuted as a Spider-Man villain, but like the Kingpin he appeared to feature more prominently in Daredevil stories as he transitioned into his current anti-hero role. So thinking of him again as an antagonist, would you consider the Punisher more closely linked with Spider-Man or Daredevil?

Why would I consider either one?

Because that was the role the Punisher fulfilled early on. There are many stories where he clashes with Spider-Man or Daredevil. The question is for anyone that recalls the character as an antagonist, prior to his current much more heroic iteration.

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>Because that was the role the Punisher fulfilled early on
That doesn't answer my question at all: What is there to get out of this exercise? Even among comic book discussion, this is completely pointless.

The same thing you get from asking such a question about the Kingpin? I'm beginning to think you're being deliberately obtuse.

>The same thing you get from asking such a question about the Kingpin?
Nothing at all.

So why are you in this thread if it's not a question that interests you, if you don't mind my asking?

He’s a spidey villain, after all he is the rhino

Hoping someone can give me a reason why it isn't retarded every time it pops up, and apparently failing miserably because nobody knows why they post it.

You're in a message board about comics and cartoons. Everything on here is pointless and achieves nothing, you autist.

Kingpin at one point has systematically dismantled every aspect of Daredevil's life to the point where he was a bum on the street with nothing left. He still antagonizes him at every possible opportunity. Kingpin and DD have a closer personal relationship than he does with Spiderman, so I would say that Fisk is a better DD villain.

Though, since this is comics, everyone shares villains anyways. There is no such thing really as an exclusive villain for a hero.

Simple curiosity. Wanting to know where others stand, what they commonly associate these characters with. Maybe even strike up a fuj conversation about a story arc they liked or some defining moment. You know, fun organic discourse.

>Everything on here is pointless and achieves nothing
>Even among comic book discussion
I'm on a message board about comics and cartoons in which people can't read. I should have posted pictures, sorry.

But how can it be fun if you're here?

Yes, he is a Punisher villian too.

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Civil War 2 sucked a load of ass, but at least we got this fight scene from it. It was kinda cool

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It's interesting that in Spider-man live action he's always left out, but in in animation he is frequently used. And you basically can't have anything Daredevil related without including him.

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He's pretty much a villain to every street level hero in NYC.

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Best version of the Kingpin.

He's a New York villain

I came to type these exact words. Are you me from the future?

Think of it like this, Deathstroke started off strictly as a Teen Titans villain, and eventually ended up a villain for both Batman and Green Arrow when they felt it'd suit those stories.

Same thing happened w/Fisk, he started strictly as a Spider-Man villain but morphed essentially into a Punisher and Daredevil villain when it suit the stories being told.