What is your opinion of self-inserts? Where do you think the line between self-insert starts/ends? Alt Q: What do you think of the writing advice "kill your darlings"?
Don't just post an image, let us know what your comic's called, and link us to it!
I don't understand how people have self inserts, I can't even think of writing one
Xavier Turner
>skeleton hand and quill whoa >self-inserts the same problem with porn. if I put that in, it would overshadow everything else. Gotta let the characters and story stand on their own >kill MY darlings? no way, I love my darlins. but you have to put them through a lot of shit. Naw, I know what it really means. Like no matter how attached you are to something, if it's not working, you've gotta scrap it. It's true. and the sooner you do it, the nicer the replacement will be. BUT sometimes you can also break the drawing that isn't working and reassemble it into something that does. Though half the time you'll still be redrawing THAT.
Robert Phillips
BASED JULIA HOLTER EDITION also does your comics have a clear antagonistic force? (villain, great evil, enemy) or is it a more ambiguous conflict? also is it clear to the audience who's goood and bad, who should we root for?
Elijah Anderson
I don't have any Clip Studio experience but is there a setting to set the fill bucket reference to "Canvas" instead of "Layer"? That's how it works in FireAlpaca anyway, try looking for something like that. If it works, it should take the line layer into account when you use the fill bucket no matter what layer you use it on.
Luis Anderson
I'm working on my art to make a webcomic in a few weeks, I hope. I'm interested in any critiques. Is there anything I can do to improve in general? Anything I can do to improve the second girl's facial structure? Anything I can do to make the third girl look more stereotypically gothy? Are the rectangular or circular eyes better? Does everyone look 15-17? Do the first girl's light blue eyes look good?
writing a script. I'm far enough in that it's worth asking... what should I do when I'm done? I can't draw
Jack Martinez
I'm afraid what I told you last thread still stands, about making the construction a solid guide, not a vague shape with wobbly lines. Personally, i don't think you're ready yet. But here are some tips You're drawing a cross through the face, but your faces are turned to the side, so the lines should also be curved. It looks like you figured that out by the last one. That's related to the primary problem with ponytail girl: flat features on a turned face. The other girl has the opposite problem, her features are turned but her face just seems to cut off. Also ears too far forward. It always pays to visualize sideburns and moustaches whether people have them or not, so you get the spacing right. Looks like the first one's ears are spaced okay. your eye shapes are all pretty good, but none of them wrap around the head properly and some of them are uneven. The nose-mouth part of the face should stick out, it's not flat and flush with the eye part (how much varies from person to person) The top of the head needs to be a lot higher and more full and round on everyone but ponytail girl.
James Gray
Sounds like you got a book on your hands. You could pay someone to illustrate it.
Benjamin Robinson
Post sample script, maybe you'll find an artist. If you're REALLY lucky and good at writing, you may even end up with an artist gf like Nyamo
Christian Cox
>there are some popular enough webcomics... I wonder how much kazerad makes on patreon
Dropping in to reply to a post from last thread: I don't use Patreon for my comic. I probably could, but I like trying to do fun things with merchandise.
I've written a bit about my experiences with it if anyone else wants to try: prequeladventure.com/merchandise-retrospective/ I'm planning to write some more about more complex clothing production, once I'm through with the mage hoods.
So far, clothing has always been the best-selling item. If anyone wants an idea of the scale and how it equates to sales: my comic gets around 3500 uniques a day, or 27000 a month, and I sold around 840 $70 hoodies, 300 $35 mage hoods (so far), and 900 $30 T-shirts. The fabric posters also sold pretty well but I forget the exact quantity; they're pretty cost- and space-efficient though, and I describe how I made them in the link above.
>Self inserts? Not unless you're making an autobiography.
>Kill Your Darlings Maybe the most important lifestyle habit of writing. You don't need the millstones around your neck. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, as many, many others have:
There is NO SUCH THING as good writing. There is ONLY good rewriting.
I absolutely hate self inserts. I think they are lazy writing and bland wish fulfillment. I say that because all my early writings were self insert bullshit. When i design protagonists, I try to make someone as unlike me as possible. Though sometimes it bleeds through. I didnt realize i had a super long goatee like my character Tad Danger. However i think i grew that after i first drew him.
Maybe we become more like the characters we create? I guess my ideal self is a fat bald loser.
Wow, this is really useful. Also I should have known you'd go above and beyond even on that sort of thing but merch sales has always seemed like a nightmare to me. To save costs, people do the shipping themselves, requiring trips to a shipping source and hours spent packing the shit up. And the shit's so inefficient that you only get a slim profit..
Colton Morgan
I've considered it. it's very pricey maybe when I've proofread it...
Joseph Gomez
Oh, I see you didn't use an intermediary BALLSY. But appealing. replacement sounds better, but i'm so used to hearing substitute thing is, a sub is understood to be a temp, it's not as if he replaces people who dramatically died to show things are getting serious.
Eli Johnson
>proofread pussy
Jason Baker
Sound reasoning. Only reason i questioned it was i had a design for an evil twin going by Renegade Ranger, and the alliterative thing caught me because i have that wordplay fetish. But substitute is much more descriptive of the story, and it is the name i am most used to.
Jaxon White
Extremely informative. I have never been more strongly convinced that I both want to, and absolutely cannot, do something.
Owen Bennett
>The nose-mouth part of the face should stick out, it's not flat and flush with the eye part (how much varies from person to person) How do you make it stick out when the face is turned but not in profile?
Jayden Johnson
Also it's a bad idea for an evil twin to use the same alliteration.
Okay i did a new and (hopefully) much less autistic title page. It kinda came out more badass than what the story actually is going to be.
I hope to have my tapas page set up this weekend with the intro. I just have 2 and half more pages to finish up. So hopefully sunday night i can get this shitshow off the ground.
well, if the head's turned to that side, then the nose and mouth should certainly be nudged in that direction, and the cheek drawn bulged out a little (that last bit you seem to have right)
This is a adorable. Good work. Lizards are just as cool as dragons. She should take pride in her lizard heritage. Godzilla was a lizard and he kicked the shit out a three headed dragon.
Aaron Phillips
goji's a dinosaur. there's only been one godzilla who was a lizard and nobody likes him cept me
Isaac Ortiz
I like zilla too. He deserves more love. He did nothing wrong.
Eli Adams
Would be funny if the gutter was bent up as if she tripped on it.
Joshua Rodriguez
tapas.io/episode/1435951 >that feeling when you've branched out into too many side characters and just want to go back to simpler times
And for the Bug Queen design from last thread. These are her supposed personal guards/servants. The idea we were rolling with was that the closer guards got the more 'cute' side of the Queen while the Drones got the more ugly side to them.
nothing has ever been as weird to me as my mom randomly doing a drawing because i asked her to, and seeing how good it was.. like zero practice, literally never ever drawing.. and it was a competent cartoon. So that's clearly where I got it from (my dad also drew a super realistic ship once and then never drew again before or since) but why aren't they more interested in it since they have such talent??
Parker Price
>Extremely informative. I have never been more strongly convinced that I both want to, and absolutely cannot, do something.
It's not AS hard as it seems. Like, after a while you basically just get a process of how to throw things in a package, print a label, and send them off.
These days I usually take preorders to fund the initial production run, then make a bunch of extras to sell over time. Like, right now I have about 300 wizard hood preorders (totaling around $10k), and I'm producing a little over 500 of them for a production cost of around $4000. This means I not only get $6000, but I'll have 200 extras on hand, already paid for and produced, and I just kind of get $35 for a nominal amount of effort any time someone pushes a purchase button.
Since I'm handling your income myself, it also means I don't have to worry about advertisers pulling out if I draw a dick or say the fuck word, and I can be really open about income figures that sponsors/advertisers contractually obligate you to be cagey about. I think it's a pretty solid monetization route, especially for comics with a kind of niche audience.
Anyway, not sticking around, I just wanted to drop some figures on the economics of this. I don't make a ton, but bear in mind I also kind of try to avoid repeating "easy money" things like tees in favor of weirder shit I haven't tried yet.
Quick Space Pack comic with the characters I posted in the last thread!
>What is your opinion of self-inserts? Where do you think the line between self-insert starts/ends? I personally stay away from using self-inserts, or basing any character on anyone I know. I used to do it many, many years ago, and felt it limited the stories I could tell and the potential of the characters.
haha thanks senpai, right now she doesn't know shes a lizard, maybe one day
Cameron Clark
yeah, i should add more detail! but backgrounds arn't my best
Aiden Kelly
Yeah that's pretty fantastic. At the very least if I ever find myself popular enough to have that kind of customer base, I'll have an idea how to handle it. But you're severely underestimating my anxiety in that kind of undertaking. One mistake and you're out solid real money cash. To say nothing of the taxes..
Jaxson Stewart
if she painlessly loses the end of her tail and it starts growing back, she might start putting 2 and 2 together
William Ramirez
What does glitter and gamer fuel drinks smell like, oh wise elephant?
Anthony Rivera
Really informative! I'm gearing up to do a third Kickstarter and always feel I have more to learn and improve upon. Your tips are extremely helpful! Thanks for sharing.
William Carter
I imagine it smells like that one curly haired fujo girl from your school who really likes manga way more than anyone else ever totally. she comes up to you when she catches you reading some common series that shes never heard of, and right before leaving for class after stumbling through a conversation she gives you a fist bump. basically a feminine chris-chan
or at least its the smell I was trying to describe
I remember that girl. She wore a Naruto headband around her neck.
Josiah Roberts
thats actually a good idea
Aiden Parker
>tfw FUCKING RETARD who can't draw I keep physically hurting myself out of anger. I already have 3 holes in my wall and my mom is threatening to make me get a job if I make a 4th, seriously it's just not fucking fair how easy some people have it
>seriously it's just not fucking fair how easy some people have it
Mate, none of this is easy, even for professionals. I've been doing this for almost 4 years now and I still struggle to create something I like half the time, let alone something GOOD. alot of the older anons I've seen have been drawing for almost a decade now. people learn at their own pace.
also get a job.
not everyone stopped naruto running in gym class after 4th grade user.
It was never easy and never will be, I got made fun of for having shitty art for at least my first ten years drawing. Improvement is gradual and you have to just stick with it. You WILL improve if you persevere.
Brody Anderson
How do you become confident enough in an idea to start working seriously with it? I often come up with many ideas for plot points and characters, and I do like them, but I'm always insecure about how well they will be received or if they will start chipping away at other elements of my stories.
Luis Taylor
don't worry about reception. do worry about how they'll work in your story, but go ahead and give them an audition. If they don't work, you can cut them, no harm done. Try to run it through in your head first obviously, but I feel like if you were confident in your ability to do that, you wouldn't be asking.
Matthew Lee
drawing is alot like singing, if you dont have the talent for it no instructor or book or exercise is going to make you better.
That's kind of my issue. When I run it through in my head it's good enough but in some cases it goes against advice I've heard of or gotten.
To give an example, in one of my stories the first two arcs end with the protagonist barely escaping alive and in the third one she is wrongly sentenced for killing one of her allies, just so one of the villains could use her as a bargaining chip against another villain, and with it she is effectively taken out of the main plot because in that particular setting jail is a resocialization VR program. There's a secret fight for power between like four factions that heavily influences her life but she isn't part of any of it and it takes the form of a classic quest for macguffins in the same arc as she is jail, so at that moment I believe it would become nonsense to most people because the normal thing to do would be to somehow throw her into the quest instead of branching out the story and trap her into the less dynamic branch.
Asher Ross
came to the realization that devils moon will be a year old next week. wanted to make some art for it. here's the draft.
There's not a solid standard but check out the method used for screenwriting and list your 'scenes' as panels instead. Trilby is a free, if annoying, program that'll let you set up and write scripts out in a coherent way.
love the camera & perspective
Jordan Reyes
Ya'll fuckers need resources. Pic related for the files. size/ratios for websites/screens/printing spreadsheet and a clip studio/photoshop thumbnail template for the different ratios. Turn on/off visibility for notated layers. Do all the sketching on the sketch layer. This will leave the template thumbs empty making it quick for selection/cropping/copy&paste for each thumbnail page. You can then import it onto your working comic page to stretch without ratio distortion. You're welcome.
>also get a job. No, I need all the time I have to watch youtube videos and netflix for research on my comic. One day I'll have combined all the good and cool tropes/ideas from the things I watched into a megahit story, and I'll get invited to the cool cons, meet up with qt fans, and sign book deals.
>What is your opinion of self-inserts? Where do you think the line between self-insert starts/ends? As usual, I generally dont like them, though I appreciate them when its a minor, irrelevant character or made for a funny scene without shilling the author views or personality. I think the actual problem with self-inserts however is that its difficult for us to completely understand our own personalities, so what we show, if based on what we think of ourselves, will always feel like self-serving, a kind of fanservice that only pleases the author. Its kind of the opposite extreme of the "generic mc" which I also hate, on which there is no personality to speak of. Id say between the two, I would rather prefer a self insert though, since at best we get a personality.
Then there is the other part, that is, we put a bit of ourselves on each one of our characters, or so I always felt. This is obviously not the same as a self-insert, but I feel its inevitable, at some point or another, personality traits we imagine will have some basis on whatever we have lived and experienced to some degree and what can we imagine about it. That level of "self-insert" (which is not self-insert at all) tends to give some realism to stories. Of course, a writer could also just imagine personalities and characters absolutely from zero, but in my experience that never seems to be the case, at least not completely.
Id say the line has to do with how much you can recognize the author in the character and, even more, how much can the author recognize his own defects without it being self-serving. Though I guess it could be argued that self-inserts are always self-serving so that line is probably pointless.
>Alt Q: What do you think of the writing advice "kill your darlings"? Never heard of it.
Also I updated recently my oni bullying comic. tapas.io/episode/1436314 Fucked up on that one panel but oh well. I think I draw them both better anyways.
>she is wrongly sentenced > jail is a resocialization VR program.
This is the most interesting part of your convoluted synopsis, just make your comic about this.
Jayden King
Talent doesn't always equate to interest. Art is also one of those things a lot of people, especially older generations, are told to drop it because they aren't Picasso and won't make a lot of $$$ (the usual wasting your time spiel)
Jonathan Watson
Had the same thing regarding my sister. I dedicated years to writing and then she wrote a short story one day in a fit and it was fantastic, far better than what I could do. Same with art, her first attempts were incredible. But she has no interest whatsoever in it. One would think talent begets interest but it seems its sadly not the case no matter how much I insisted.
Eli Rivera
>Where do you think the line between self-insert starts/ends?
You mean between self insert and none self inserts?
>What is your opinion of self-inserts?
I used to be more critical of the practice. Although I kind of grew up to be a warp person in my 30s so I am coming back around to it, there are times in my life where I am just taking it one day at a time, and I couldn't quite find very satisfying escapism, so I tried turning what I have into just that. While there are times that some people might have said something, in the end I have came to a place where I feel like I am the only one who cares, so might as well make it "just for me", if that makes sense.
A while back someone had PDFs or a cliff notes version of save the cat, does someone still have that on hand?
David Ross
Nice art. Where do you post your stuff?
Leo Richardson
do you have any brown girl lewds?
Carson Hill
I'm not at all thinking of discarding that part but the other is important to bring back another character that played a big role in her story before her sentence and then after it. My issue there is that I want people to see both as equally important in the big picture of the story but also know that the "boring" part is more important because the story is ultimately about her.
Carter Lee
@ac120rfw
That specific brown girl, or brown girls in general?
advice is never supposed to be something you check your work against and fret if it violates it, it's supposed to be something you just use as a general guideline. doublecheck and make sure it works, that kind of thing.
Benjamin Foster
That specific brown girl.
Kayden Wood
>the "boring" part is more important why would you do this
Zachary Cruz
yeah but my dad still regularly played music and still dreamed of playing in a band, and my mom made serious consideration to starting puppet shows for hospital kids. total dreamers. why wasn't drawing a creative outlet that's reasonable to do in your free time for them?
Julian Davis
e-hentai.org/g/524508/10d43c0b35/
I haven't draw her in a while, i really should. I thought she is a cool character. Although it might take a while to get into her story line in my main line... at the rate I am going I might never do though...
I have no idea, that's something you should ask them for a nice bonding moment. It might give insight into sorting your own shit out. For all I know those hobbies make them feel good while art did nothing for them in that regard
Wyatt Phillips
I know I'm becoming a broken record, but I just love this so much. I'm running out of words to say how much I need you to stay in the threads forever.
Justin Thompson
strandberry fields forever black goo has never once been good news. prove me wrong.
No, because you're just making it to avoid working on your actual comic/story. Just sit down and start writing it/drawing it, silly. What you're doing is an exercise in procrastination.
Jacob Watson
Actually I'm trying to find a artist that who is willing to make the official comic first. I dont know how long, but im getting paid soon but its hard to find one at this moment.
depends. did you make it yourself? okay if there's no comic, then that is not a good start.
Tyler James
Do you actually have a usable script yet?
Aaron James
>e-hentai.org/g/524508/10d43c0b35/ wait is it a hentai webcomic? I actually wasn't expecting canon x-rated lewds but thank you
Christian Watson
I have a friend who is good at scripts, at this moment as you read this text, me and him are putting in the main characters, side characters, settings and categorizing everyone.
We do have a start to end, and the ending is all set, all we need to do is to make a script, and plan out the sequences that happen. If this gets enough attention, this could go mainstream and be on a TV show by the 2020's .
Okay. Stop. >all we need to do is to make a script The script is everything you need to do, you haven't even started work yet. If you aren't drawing the comic your main goal is going to be to write it, and if you don't have a readable version of your story that can be converted into your comic, you have nothing. For your own sake, stop working on your wiki and just write your actual story. What you have right now is an idea for a story, and ideas in and of themselves are worthless if you don't execute them. If you really care about your story start writing it.
John Cooper
I was gonna argue, but you're right. Change of plans, I'll start working on the story during Monday.
Well, its not a on-going lewd webcomic, its just a one shot. I am a porn artist after all, with exception to Rococo herself there are a lot of lewds with many characters. Although after tumblr banned 18+ stuff I kind of lost the a place to keep all of them. I am still organizing my own e-hentai gallery, but I haven't decided what specifically to include.
Nearly finished the first chapter. Planning to start releasing the comic early July. Does 1 page a week seem like too slow of a pace, or should I gun for like 5 pages a month?
>kill your darlings I've always felt that this truism should be phrased differently. For a while, it honestly made me think that if I really like an idea, I'm being too subjective and I should scrap it.
By all means, constantly tweak and improve your darlings (just like everything else), and if something doesn't support the story, then take it out and file it away for a later project. But that's different from telling people that if they really like an idea, it's probably bad and should get the axe.
Wyatt Cruz
I think the trouble is that a lot of people, especially newbies, don't know or understand when something they're really attached to isn't serving the story at all. The advice basically does mean what you said: "Know when something you love would be better served in a different story" or "Know when you're too attached to an idea that's actually hindering you", but the problem is that new writers often don't know when that is, and assume it's never because they 'really like this one though, it's essential'.
Like all writing advice, it's primed to be something you hear early on and then work out the specifics of through practice, but this is one of those ones which is dialed for people whose confidence is too high rather than too low.
Joshua Long
Enjoy seeing your growth laundryelephant, here's fanart of the pool scene you drew
wip. I'm not really used to inking quite yet, so the lines are still wobbly. I scraped my first draft and redesigned the characters. I might change it, but this is what I drew first when redesigning. I'm going to draw single panel gag strips, mostly just to focus on drawing humans in different situations. Not really sure how to practice backgrounds or composition. I won't be using color since I rarely even use color. I didn't like drawing the full pages or using color anyway, which was probably apparent.
The girl on the left is supposed to be six feet tall, but they should still look like twins. This design is more expressive and easier to draw in profile and a back view. I need a third character for the strip, so it's probably going to be a pirate girl who is the master of the lamp/ring. I'm unsure of the dynamic, but she shouldn't have the same type of personality or hair color.
Wouldn't it need to be a human character so it can make wishes and introduce different gags?
William Jenkins
Do they still look like twins?
Dominic Martin
So lovely. someday people will redraw my drawings. i know it
Carter Ramirez
non-identical twins, right? foxes make wishes... for things like delicious jerboas to eat.
Daniel Turner
>non-identical twins, right? At least enough to look like sisters >foxes make wishes i will try to draw a fox, might be fun to draw animals
Brandon Rogers
they could travel around the world with their magic cloud, fulfilling desires (and sowing chaos) to different people whit their snake familiar
John Moore
love it, sounds perfect
Carter Brown
>routinely draw a single page in the span of two days (two sessions of 1 or 2 hours each, at least 2 hours total) >listen to music/some podcast while drawing (very slowly) >end up drawing 3 pages every week >upload 2 pages every week >story goes at a painfully slow pace >trying to get pages for backlog is even slower >getting frustrated thinking i'll have to nerf the artsyle if i want to get shit done faster >suddenly have an idea >set the timer on my phone to 1 hour and force myself to draw a page within that time span >go full clutch mode, no music, just fully focused on getting shit done >couldn't beat the timer by 30 minutes. still, 1 hour and a half for a full page is pretty good. much better than two fucking days >art still looks good, barely any difference >mfw i could easly draw at least 6 pages every week with this method >feeling like pic related
obviously depending of the page it may take me more or less time to draw but still
well, i already dedicate a shitton of hours to this thing every week. with this new method hours would remain mostly the same (but the amount of pages made would double)
Because the boring part is related to the character arc of the protagonist, which is all about her changing her life and make amends with her past sins. Including her into the quest is not all that out of the question but she starts the story as a mercenary and she would've ended up in jail even if she wasn't accused of the one murder she didn't commit.
every time I see this I forget it's a tranny thing. The logo never reminds me.
Christian Baker
Gender bender webcomics ain't my thing (there's alot of them) but your good art got me curious wanting to read it
Also /hyw/guys I was wondering if there's any tips on making panel not boring but easy to read. I'm slowly getting the hang of it but I got a little worried if the panels looks confusing to some
I'm currently doing a short comic about a mother that roleplays as her 12 year old son's best friend, since he has none and gets bullied.
Yet I thought about making her armless as a way with relating to her days as a teen being bullied for being an amputee, yet overcoming it to become stronger, which helps her son with doing the same thing.
But I thought about just making her just a regular mother, which helps her son overcome being bullied by pretending to be a delinquent teen, which makes him look tough around his peers.
What do you guys think?
Josiah Martin
wait, is this the thing where the girls are making fun of the guy on the bus who looks like a dumpy fat girl? This looks fine to me. looks really nice. am I supposed to follow the third panel down to the left though? That's unusual, but it's a way to go. Also I like your name.
Landon Richardson
>a mother that roleplays as her 12 year old son's best friend, since he has none and gets bullied. So weird how I had that dream, and then it became a thing I've seen in greentext threads. Who the fuck would bully an amputee though? >pretending to be a delinquent teen God, I need to see that. Thing is, if she has any really distinctive features like missing limbs, the entire town is going to know her and know she's his mom, so yeah she has to be pretty regular-looking and young and hot if this is going to work.
Justin Mitchell
I haven't uploaded the story anywhere yet, by July I'll probably have about 20 pages and upload it to tapas.io etc When I do it, I'll let you know! The alien is a "she-he" but makes sense on his planet, they only habe 1 gender. Its mostly for the gags haha, actually the story is not sooo gay
Jack Sanchez
>God, I need to see that. Thing is, if she has any really distinctive features like missing limbs, the entire town is going to know her and know she's his mom, so yeah she has to be pretty regular-looking and young and hot if this is going to work.
See I wanted to make the amputee mom pretending to be the delinquent teen but yeah, the whole town would know it's her. Unless I do it where she has fake arms or the illusion that she arms but I don't see how I could make it work
Levi Howard
Why thanks! I was thinking to myself if I made the panels more sense. And also yeah you have to follow the third panel down to the left, then right then bottom left
Jason Bell
I'm doing both at the same time! The "Virgin&Limpdick" is more personal and I know no one will read it about SWCF, I hope becomes more popular, it's hechi etc.
>The alien is a "she-he" but makes sense on his planet, they only habe 1 gender. >Its mostly for the gags haha, actually the story is not sooo gay Not that guy but another expressing dissent before. I'm re-sold. Sorry to have pre-judged you. You know how it is, webcomics these days.
David Johnson
oh okay. the art looked similar but different. This style I keep thinking I'm looking at Gorgs from Fraggle Rock somehow. That is one henson production WAY overdue for a manga. Good stuff. I'm gonna keep an eye on you. What country are you from by the way? Your little english mistakes are unfamiliar to me and I'm kind of a student of those.
Carter Peterson
>check ´em
im from Argentina! a country in debts in south-america! Thank you all for correcting my spelling mistakes when I ask hahaha
Consider making her a leg amputee rather than an arm. At least with legs, one could disguise that easier, and the have less impact on day to day life with prosthesis
Justin Nguyen
>a country in debts in south-america! well that's redundant anyway you're not the first argybarge whose comic i read. Not even the first in this thread.
Xavier Parker
ayyy! If it's done I'll sure to have a look at
Evan Morgan
what happened to the catfight did Rau win
James Edwards
1 day, 3 pages. I pushed myself a little too far. Little burnt, but I just need to rest and re-energize.
ooh that's hella artistic. I see patterns like that a lot in comics.
Jayden Robinson
Thanks! I'm tried not to clutter the panels and finding the right eraser to make the page appropriate
William Long
>tfw 30 year old NEET who still draws like dogshit despite drawing for 9 years Should I sign up for art school? It'd be a good chance to make some art friends and hopefully nab an artist gf. Maybe someone will draw my comic for me after seeing my great ideas
should I just steal colors from something I like or use my own? my colors are kind of shit. alternatively, is there a place to get very expansive and coherent pallettes?
Jaxson Foster
There are free courses to teach yourself online for way cheaper. Also sounds like you just want to pay for a gf dating service. The act of drawing doesn't teach your brain structure, color theory, perspective, and so on. It just teaches your muscles memory. No idea is so great that others will do the work for you, for free.
Both. Create color pallets based off images you like. Here's a video on color theory, color picker site, and a website with pallettes.
Quick question: where do you plan on uploading your comic? You may want to double check their max size and double check that your page will be readable in that constraint. It just seems like you have a lot of panels for one page (average is ≤9) and you may find that your text will be too small to read or too crowded to fit nicely in each panel
Aiden Carter
>What is your opinion of self-inserts? Where do you think the line between self-insert starts/ends? When you blatantly put a characters that thinks and talks like you. >Alt Q: What do you think of the writing advice "kill your darlings"? It's bs.
>where do you uploading your comic? It's already on tapas! tapas.io/series/On-the-roll I'm currently working on the third page then I upload with the others. >max size 940 x 4000px according to the site, which I already got that down.
>It just seems like you have a lot of panels for one page (average is ≤9) and you may find that your text will be too small to read or too crowded to fit nicely in each panel I heard of the nine panel rules before (somewhere on Tumblr) I'm just compressing the panels to get going. As for the text, I'll find a way to make it readable and not exposition-heavy. And I'm making as sure I don't make it clutter. Sorry I didn't respond this criticism well. It's the first time I ever received one yet don't know how to respond.
It's a bit too excessive. Just make her an overbearing mom, but over the time the two of them bond through which, sometime later, the kid gets some confidence and starts socializing and marginalizes the mom and you can take the story in a different direction from there.
Jordan Collins
Also I forgot to tell you, it's a fancomic on Carmen sandiego that I'm working on. Just so I could get it clear
Dylan Green
Sup gang.
Angel Mitchell
This friday Devil's Moon will be a year old. I'm really excited to post this to the site then. I've never had a series last more than 6 months and I'm really happy I found something that stuck.
This week's entry. I'm kinda losing steam personally in keeping this going. I already took a break about a month ago but I feel like I need another. I think once I'll break just before I get to climax so I can spend some quality time getting it done.
>What is your opinion of self-inserts? As long as they're not Garys/Marys I think they're fine. You can get a real sense of how the author sees themselves.
Does anyone have any tips for drawing light long straight hair? Assuming I don’t highly simplify it. I always feel like the line placement is wrong, and ends up making the hair look like it’s way too far away from the head.
Liam Collins
That's just the natural order. They all leave you.. I can think of more interesting places a story like that could go
Caleb Nguyen
maybe do one version that just shows all the contours of the hair as it moves away from the head, then trace over that and see how it looks. think about realistic weighting and draping and as always, show us what you have, because we can't know what you're doing wrong
What's the point of guidelines if you are not gonna use them.
Ethan Diaz
yeah this, it feels like you're only drawing those construction lines just to completely ignore them when you actually draw the face also, make your facial features a little more interesting. don't make the hair style and color be the only thing that distinguishes the character from the rest
major improvement over last time. the proportions and shapes are there now. tip for bangs on the third one, check out ocarina of time's official art. what you're gonna be seeing under the arches is vertical lines, where the hair is swept back and up. might also do you good to look at hairlines in general. also what this guy said is true. guidelines can be confusing for some people. the primary circle should be the top of the skull, while you have to add more for the chin, cheeks, nose-mouth area, etc.
I try to use them, but when I stick too closely to them it comes out looking weird to me. What can I use for facial features besides eye and nose shape/size? Thanks.
Anthony Peterson
a perfectly fine way to eat... urchin hat kid is growing on me.
Zachary Lewis
how do you make a character design that's simple but memorable?
Make the characters have different designs from eachother for starters. I don't have anything after that, yet.
Charles Smith
I think the key to a memorable design IS simplicity. When they aren't overly complicated, they are easier to remember in my opinion. All of this is just my particular thoughts, but I'd also say keeping color schemes limited is helpful as well. Too many colors complicates a design. Also, make a simple character with at least one stand-out feature. Maybe that's a random tuft of hair, design on a shirt, etc.
This is a character from my comic Oni x Fox, and I think they are a decent example of a simple design with a feature that makes them stand out- the big smile on the mask. Without that, I think they would be far less memorable.
going with this, how the fuck do I get an idea for a webcomic?
Jackson Watson
Why do you need other people to tell you your webcomic idea? Just think of something you like, examine why you like it and what aspects you like about it and try to create something new while thinking of what made that thing so appealing to you.
Chase James
Try and think, what do you want to say about your character? What feature could you give them that helps get that across to the reader? For my character I posted above, I want to get across first and foremost that they are a ninja, but I want them to appear mischievous, too. So I put a wide toothy grin on the mask. You can use a thought process like that to help you decide.
Alexander Perry
This is just a one off random comic with two characters I've had an idea for awhile.
I hate the feeling of working on one project but feeling like doing another.
I'm still figuring out my story >alternate history 80s cold war setting >spy action comedy, something akin to tf2 >main hero is 26 year old redhead tomboy >raised by a single father working for the cia >barely have the time to raise her properly so she's a complete mess, basically female version of Al Bundy >she still loves and looks up to him and wants to follow in his footsteps >focused on education and staying out of the problems with the law so she can become a secret service agent >it's just boring routine and no action >she has a sudden realization that she wasted all this time for useless degree in criminal justice for the job she doesn't like, instead of making friends or her own family >spirals into apathy and loses her job >dad offers her a job in black op as last resort Thank you for attending my ted talks
Hey, do you think you can regale with your story of getting topped by another tranny in this thread too? The people need to know all the graphic details you shared in CQ.
Jaxon Rogers
He says he'll learn guitar, but there's a pile of things he never learned to use behind him
Jaxson Clark
People told me to stay truer to the outlines, so I did this time. Does this actually look better than my previous drawings? And how can I may her chin look more feminine while doing so?
It looks like you are following your guidelines more which is good. I think what would help this particular drawing is having the mouth following the same curve/direction as the rest of her face. That alone I think would balance her out a bit more. I attached an image for reference. As for the jaw, I'd make the jawline less wide and her chin smaller.
Green Lantern, Spider-Man But He Shoots Fire, Kato, Edgy Antihero #454530911683, and the guy from Infamous.
Carson Thomas
that sounds maybe amazing
Tyler Parker
Anons I am trying to design a possible non-human race that is one of the main protags and I'm trying not to make her a SEXUAL FURRY semen demon. How do you feel about this character?
I'm still trying to finish the first dozen or so pages of the comic before I try to launch it and this is the only character that is going to be around for the first arc before a human gets introduced.
Logan Allen
Why do you want to make a webcomic?
Jordan White
I forgot to include the pic because I am a goddamn retard
A project can be a great way to get better at drawing if you're not the type to just draw endlessly with no purpose.
If you wanna do a throwaway project just to practice comicing and drawing I'd come up with a plethora of vague ideas and then throw them at us and see which one stands out instead of just saying "give me an idea".
Landon Gonzalez
No problem. Keep it up!
Joseph Baker
cute
Tyler Stewart
red outlines are certainly interesting, but the only time I've ever seen it work was in monogatari
Ian Williams
wait, this one's a girl? also, see how your guide lines are just random lines not going in any particular direction or with any real shape? that's the problem.
Joseph Torres
Would definitely read her adventures i have a pet peeve about limbs constructed like that, all thigh and foot with no shin. You'll find she's unable to take most normal poses or even walk normally.
Tyler Lewis
Fellas I've been working on a comic since October and I almost have enough to upload it all soon. very excited right now
The red outlines was just a function of the sketch. I sketch in red is all.
John Cooper
It's meant to be a girl, I just suck. As for the guidelines, I thought they were mostly good this time. I don't understand what you mean by them not having a real shape, they seem face-shaped to me.
Jonathan Peterson
Excluding that the Priest was a father before the whole thing happened, King Abe is the one I can think of, though his whole deal is that due to yet unrevealed circumstances he wasnt really there to help any of his children. Despite that however, and though most of them blame him for everything and with good reason, he was a doting parent and a good ruler that fucked up by being too overprotective of what he considered his people and kids. He is gonna be making an appearance in the story in not too long, there is a reason Sutak its still being called a ruling Prince and not a King.
I guess Ibara might count as a father figure to all onis too, and Douma as a negative father figure to Shuten since he raised him via torture. Douma had some degree of affect for Shuten even while doing that.
Yeah its not the best drawing, but the center leftish one you can see her calves more, the legs can generally extend.
Its def a design based more with cartooning than realistic movement. When she stands upright her tail acts as a counterbalance while she manipulates things with her hands as opposed to being able to balance well on two feet like humans. When she is running she will fall onto all fours, but most of the forward power comes from her back legs extending into "hops" like rabbits with her forearms mainly just being for catching herself and re-adjust before another back leg extend.
I'm not the best at anatomy, but that is how I imagine her locomotion anyway.
much better leg proportions here. I love this kinda critter and would definitely enjoy reading this People ARE going to sexual her though so just get ready for that.
Christian Perry
Nah I'm fine with that, I just don't want a blatant "look at this wolf girl with tits" type race. I wanna try to make their anatomy farther away from human anatomy rather than just having a human body with a tail and animal head, if that makes sense.
Ryan James
man it's fun drawing really exaggerated poses. I need to do it more often.
>I just don't want a blatant "look at this wolf girl with tits" type race. bless you. I hate boring furries with a burning ambivalence.
David Robinson
how do you come up with an idea for one though
Logan Morgan
Mimic something you like. Steal ideas from movies or stories you find interesting and modify it to make it you own.
This goes double for a throwaway project being used for practice. You aren't going to define your legacy with this so just steal any idea that speaks to you and give it your own spin and run with it.
Jacob James
Making a comic is a good way to get better at gestures, challenge yourself with composition, and imagining forms in different angles. But if you aren't concerned with design or telling a story, just do a slice of life.
Otherwise, some comics come from having a collection of OCs with no world. Others arise from 'what-if' fanfic offshoots from other media that left you feeling a bit unsatisfied. You can think of a cool scene and try to build a story that leads up to it.
William Sanders
can you steal names?
Sebastian Morris
>Are you editing the same publication with new updates instead of adding new ones?
yeah.
you take an idea you already have floating in your head and try to build something around it. anything.
maybe you remember that one time you saw a dog spinning furiously trying to catch it's own tail, so you think "how can i make a comic around this thing" and you give it an interesting spin.
or you have a character or weapon that looks cool and try to build a story around it.
maybe it's that weird creature you drew years ago when you were a kid, idk.
Jonathan Perez
Thanks. I hope to finish first portrait of her and other main characters soon. 3 other would be: >Unhinged combat medic and vietnam vet who failed his psychological evaluation so he was discharged from the army. He uses unconventional, but effective healing methods and can patch up anyone even in the most dire situations. Shit like closing wounds with stapler, fixing dislocated joints by punching them or doing blood transfusion with his mouth. He acts as a guardian angel for main heroine, because her father is scared for her shitless and want to protect her at all cost. >Kojimaesque hack movie director who tired of yes men circle jerk surrounding him and leaves everything behind to become a war correspondent. He becomes de facto leader of the group and using his movie making skills he oversells it to the higher ups. Which results in them receiving missions out of their league. >Astra Boy inspired character. Grief stricken Japanese weapon developer who recently lost his daughter tasked with creation of a robot assassin to save company he works in from bunkracy. Using this one in a million chance he recreates his daughter by combining two project in one on tight budget resulting in flawed and surprisingly human creation. After successful field test and assassination of american competitors ceo he asks his boss to buy out his daughter. So now she seeks a job to pay out her 6 billion yen debt. I need to sleep.
It's a losing battle. The only way to make a character not sexy is to actually make them poorly drawn and unappealing.
This design is not sexy, but it is appealing, so someone will get a boner from it.
And that's a good thing.
Adam Brooks
This is probably the best one you've done. Expressive drawings and a real knee slap of a joke. I'm sure the joke has been done before but I've never seen it myself, so kudos to you!
Parker Evans
>tfw no one wants to lewd my female characters
Colton Flores
Yet.
Robert Johnson
that'll be the day I consider my webcomic successful
I have a cool idea that I'm sure people would love, but I don't want to share it
Owen Williams
cringe
Jaxon Scott
Happy Fathers day from Daddy Stones
Zachary Perry
Happy father's day to you, Stones!!
Ethan Brown
i like it i hope the story is just as good though
Carter Brown
Says every creator that ends up failing. Not talking about your idea is self-sabotage, here are a few reasons why:
>You don't receive feedback or criticism. The assumption people will love it is based on your preferences, not your target audience. Asking the target audience what they want to see will help you see the work from a different perspective. You also don't get positive/negative feedback on what is a good idea/point/structure or bad execution/writing/pace and so on. You could have a great story all except for one scene/moment/action that just ruins the entire thing. >Lack of interest in your work. Part of talking about your project is building interest and potential readers along with word of mouth/fandom. Sure the merit of your work will eventually attract readers but there won't be that active participation most creators hope fore. >Readers think you're an idea thief. Because you haven't discussed your project as you work on it and no matter how creative you are there's going to be a product out there your work reminds people of. This is a problem creators that do talk about their work also face but because they talk about their work most fans will accept it. Heck, some creators admitting it's a blatant ripoff do perfectly fine. Creators that just put a product out first will always be forced to deal with accusations and be on the defensive.
Christopher Adams
How good should a comic be to post?
Brody Lee
the characters have to be drawn as well as dewd
Kevin Mitchell
Here I tried drawing a snek familiar for Dee and Janey, but I couldn't decide on a good name. Either Nami or Audrey.
Are the names any good? Which of these pirate skulls are better? How can I improve on the pirate girl's design?
Okay, I have the first 7 pages of my comic done. Since i have no idea how to draw, or what I am doing in general, i kinda tried all kinds of weird shit. I also did the pages out of order, so the quality is all over the place.
i dont mean post as in release i mean post in this general
Asher Carter
snakes are great the one with the nostrils is better than the one with a mouth coming out of its eyes I suggest looking up a snake skull and drawing that (obviously a lot cartoonier to fit your style) Bonnie could use a hat. She has a great name. Those snake names are just okay.
Ian Flores
And thats it so far. I dont beleive in safe words, so be rough with me.
Tons of them, at least in sentai. didn't you watch power rangers?
Eli Rogers
be quite
Colton Flores
why ask then? the bar is so low on quality in these threads
Isaiah Perry
Which snake name is better? I was planning to have only one familiar for both of them, or should they both have familiars
Ayden Harris
Aw fuck. Ill fix that.
Samuel Hall
Honestly really fun. Easy to follow and I love the names of the heroes. Keep going with it, I definitely look forward to seeing more!
David Carter
I mean, do kaiju's with a singular large eyeball exist
Jose White
>diplomatic diplodocus I can't even Look I think you know the art's not good yet, but it's improving every time you post. Your writing, on the other hand, is a joy. You can feel very proud of that. Keep working on art and you're going to have a memorable work on your hands in the future.
Jacob Wood
I like that everyone has hair similar to their dinosaur.
I'm a simple user.
Dylan Sanchez
Hmm, yes. but fewer than the ones that have fucktons of eyes including a big central one. does Harryhausen-ass stopmotion shit count? You might say no, but you wouldn't exclude king kong, would you?
Landon Torres
That was the theme of all the monsters in Dairanger, the season MMPR S2 got it's footage from. Look at some of the MOTW from there.
Aaron Ross
Thanks guys. This is the end result of 3 months of daily practice, after not drawing anything at all for since I was a kid. This thread has been a tremendous help. The advice and criticism i have received here has been invaluable to me. Not only that, but taking up cartooning has done wonders for my depression. I am absolutely giddy right now.
I plan to have a couple more pages finished this week.
I was so anxious to post, i see tons of mistakes in these i need to tweak before i throw it on tapas, or wherever i wind up hosting it.
Ok, I'm hooked. Where are you hosting this? Goddamnit, I'm probs gonna make fan art already too f'me.
Charles Lee
Anyone have any opinions of the book “drawing comics the marvel way”?
I know everyone also says loomis but I always enjoyed big johns artwork
Levi Roberts
The art is mediocre at best, but that's about standard for HYW and I've seen stuff start with worse. Try tweaking the font in the transformation scene, I'm not sure if it's hard to read because it's vertical or what. The humor is on point, every page is a gem. Looking forward to more.
Owen Collins
just consider that dewd still posts here at some point goriland as well
Hunter Campbell
try /ic/'s artbook thread
Liam Hernandez
share a link here when you do host it
Landon Harris
Ill have a link tomorrow night has soon as i get off work.
Dominic Morgan
Would you be open to working with an artist partner? I don't want to do any of the writing or the initial designs, what you have is great. I'd be willing to help offer direction, redlines, art crit while you improve. Heck, I'd be willing to draw the pages.
Adam Anderson
does anyone want to read the first 8 pages of my script? >billionaire playboy gets in a plane crash pieces of the plane fuse to him and he joins a group of superheroes in the silver age
I was really hoping some user would volunteer I love the genre and I can do mecha, but I have enough on my plate already to do anything beyond concept art.
Ryder Reyes
Same person? If so, very up for volunteering. Got an e-mail contact or another form to communicate?
William Rivera
not me I would appreciate any help I can get. I dont really feel right shackling someone with all the art, as this has been a really cathartic experience for me, and I feel like it is something i need to continue improving upon. I am definitely open to critique and direction though. Hit me up later once i have some hosting going on and a good way to communicate.
Ethan Ramirez
*thumbs up* gotcha, good luck!
Jacob Wilson
Have you ever masturbated to a webcomic from here?
Caleb Adams
Yes, Dr. Goodlove, glasses girls are my fetish
Joseph Carter
Is there a webcomic or yonkoma-like idea out there about an ex-sex robot going to therapy to try to reprogram herself and gain knowledge of other career opportunities? And each time, something happens where she fails and ends up back to square one? I was thinking about starting some comics about this, but the idea might be kinda cliche.
That sounds great. Kinda shades of Prequel where the failure makes her more endearing and you sympathize with her while still recognizing her flaws. Is this just an example of a robot girl or what you were thinking of going with?
Christian Adams
how do i shake myself out of wasting my time with idle worldbuilding and actually nail down characters and stories? i neither write nor draw anything and i've been lying to myself for a long time that i'm making progress. where do you find inspiration? where do you secretly steal from? what's your workflow like for creating storylines?
i'm not even very creative and i don't even think i'm going to make anything good, i'd like to at least start something. even if the end result is "sonichu 2.0: featuring the (poorly) illustrated encyclopaedia of south island robots!" at least there would be an end result.
Brayden Adams
Take a page from Tolkien. Shit happened in the past, and it shaped the world of today, but that didn't happen in a vacuum, someone made that shit happen. Who were they? Why did they do it? What happened to them after it? Is there any legacy to it?
Ryan Mitchell
worldbuilding is fun and after you get to a point the best way to develop characters and stories is ask >what if: when it, where it, why it, who it, how it, and what would happen Just pick a character, see how it goes, study a bit of story development do/don'ts while you work and go from there.
So, I've browsed these threads here and there, and I was wondering, would you guys give feedback to a video?
I made some videos to explain the deep lore of the stories i want to write. They sound generic now, but that's kind of on purpose, so that you understand everything. They get less so as time goes on.
Anyway, the videos are narrated by me, and use crude pictures I drew to get the message across.
It's not strictly speaking Webcomics, but I was wondering if anyone was interested in watching them and possibly giving feedback.
tl;dr is anyone interested in watching some crappy videos I made?
Stop listening to music or playing vidia, find the most boring job and entertain yourself by imagining things, think about world building and characters you want to create. Basically create a thought experiment and try to poke plot holes in it, make strong motivations for heroes etc. As inspiration use history, music. Also create character sheets. It actually gave me new ideas just by deciding what blood type and astrological sign hero have.
Jeremiah Long
Cardinal Junction update! A tad late with this one, pardon, lol.
You just gotta keep learning skills and tech. I used to draw utter garbage tier shit and still do from time to time. Now I can pick out 'what' it is about the art that makes it shit, research how to fix it, and then take it as a learning experience. One of my old bad habits was deleting bad art instead of redrawing it or studying why it looked like shit. I asked for crit from people who knew how to draw and it helped a ton on pointing out issues.
Every damn thread >my art is shit ask somebody for a reason crit why, a redline, or what topic/theory you should be practicing to change it
Alexander Martin
That means you see the problem with your art. Now find a way to fix it.
Oliver Moore
>do this >can’t stop thinking about different ways I hate myself and my art
David Taylor
it's not fair how talented some people are, it's like they have the fastpass to gitting gud
God the self-pity party just keeps going! So much effort to be sad, is that your real hobby? You will literally die in the future, you gonna cry now about that too? You could focus on improvement or sharing your work with others to help you, it's almost like struggling and failing is part of the learning process. "other ppl are better than me" Well no shit there's always going to be a person better at anything than you, that's how shit works! There are even idiots out there that do a better job being sad...
Asher Stewart
I drew an idea of what she might look like, but not an official design of course. I don't know whether to make her more cutesy/innocent looking or more sensual like shown. Also, thanks for the feedback, user
William Hill
what if the snake is a cobra which claims to be a descendant of Egyptian royalty (WE WUS KANGS) but in reality the twins bought in a pet shop or something the snake name is Samuel
Jose Howard
Thanks anons I'm glad you like the character. I'm still goofing around with her specific design. The first drawing I posted was my more "relaxed" way of drawing her, though I've tried to "clean it up" a bit.
I've spent 9000 hours on worldbuilding though and I'm having trouble just starting the comic. A big issue I'm having is my background work is a combination of being sub par and taking a really long time to do.
I figure if I just started doing the comic I'd get better and faster at it, but I kinda wish I had a betting starting point because the story I have will need heavy background use for a lot of thematic stuff. This character is going to be alone for the first arc and she isn't going to be talking to other characters, she is going to be interacting with the environment and I'm struggling with making the environment as interesting as I want it to be.
>I'm trying not to make her a SEXUAL FURRY semen demon >stuffandthing.png tehee
user you are a drama queen, just draw and stop be a (you)whore
Jackson White
Should snake personality be similar to Salem’s (Sabrina teenage witch sitcom version)
Jack Walker
Okay, so I have a character design. How would I go about creating a characters personality?
Nolan Ramirez
Did someone hurt you user
Jason Foster
I have a bad day, it's nothing, the furry is cool im jelaous
Aiden Diaz
I've used and seen a couple of methods: 1) Base a character off of tropes, match how they think and act to align with those tropes 2) Figure out how they align with "16 Personality Types" and use that as a basis Introversion vs. Extraversion Sensing vs. Intuition Thinking vs. Feeling Judging vs. Perceiving 3) Find a saying, quote, or phrase that you would want them to say/represent and work on the personality to fit it.
Luke Green
I'm not a webcomic artist...but I was looking into starting up t-shirt merchandise. Where would be a good place to look for making t-shirts?
Daniel Edwards
teepublic
Luis Moore
huh, i usually come up with the personality first and the design after so it reflects that. maybe look at your design and see what type of personality your gut tells you they are?
hey, that's some good growth there, keep at it. Here's a redline to convey the areas that have issues. areas of focus to keep improving: anatomy, lower body and how the chest muscles/breast pull with movement. The belly is showing a 3/4s view and your legs are trying to do portrait. The farthest breast is lower that it should be with the arms up like that. Also, hand practice, no worries everybody needs hand practice. Check out the rule of thirds it'll really save you some headaches later. I know you're going for the long limb type style, but for other art styles the elbow will usually fall at the waist curve.Try flipping your images (looking at it from behind with a strong light source behind it for traditional)
focus on those first for practice. anatomy, rule of 3rds, and flipping your art.
i go about mine very backwards. i like to start with a name. i play word games in my head, and when something strikes me, i try to turn that into a character. i go in without preconceived notions and just let the sound of the name guide me. then i retroactively figure out how to make sense of the abomination i just made. usually the wordplay of the name kind of pigeonholes their personality and makes it self evident. for example >put Dr. in front of anything and its a mad scientist. >Dr. Cannonfodder sounds cool >who is Dr. Cannonfodder? >cannonfodder is what little minions are called, so he has an army of expendable minions. >make them robots so he can mass produce them >why would he specialize in cannonfodder? maybe its because he super cheap and beleives in quantity over quality. >what does he look like? pirates use cannons, maybe he has a pirate theme.
in the end i got a fat nerdy pirate with cheaply made robots held together with duct tape. hes obsessed with his bottom line and it affects his evil schemes.
i find it keeps me creative and my characters are less derivative. when i do designs and characters i persinally think think are cool, they tend to go no where or are boring and shallow. at least using this way characters kind of grow organically and are open to be toyed with. i want to make badass anime guys with attitude, but the hokey weird shit i come up with out of nowhere tends to be much more endearing.
Drawing hands... I see a few fingers in the picture but not a full hand. It's common for people to find poses that hide hands when they're uncomfortable drawing them. Everybody does it.
"Action" and "Thrills" should be larger, as that's where the emphasis should be, but there's not a lot of space for it. Unless you drop the size of the lettering to make room, or redraw that first balloon.
Blake Adams
Braids, they look like they fit more with a serious personality and the others look too cutesy, would need more context for the character.
I think this idea covers cute nicely, but it's also really jetsons-y and has rigid representations of soft things, which is just not going to feel like something I want to fuck.
Jaxon Cook
Yeah that's close enough to a comic
Hunter Rogers
If she doesn't watch out, she's gonna get kisses. you know it's trolling right?
Adam Gonzalez
I would consider shrinking her nose just a tad. with no titties and with pretty prominent topspiky hair, she's got nothing to look feminine besides the very slight hips. a fatter tail compared to males of her species is also a good idea, if they show up.
Justin Ramirez
Everybody have somewhat different idea what they find attractive so I doubt appealing to everyone is possible.
As another user mention before, you can try drawing her with a smile, or any other set of expressions, its good to experiment a bit to see how you can draw out certain characteristic or attitude that might catch people's interest.
3 for sure, but none of these cute, perky hairstyles suit her dour face Really? You seem to be doing the opposite. Angry eyebrows only a third the width of the eyes, big protruding frown, fat in a dumpy way rather than an hourglass thicc way...
Nolan Sullivan
This fucker has me rolling. But Meredith should be nicer to her dad. She's gonna miss him when all she has left is a slab of rock with a few dates and 'RUSTIC' on it
Brayden Gomez
The legs are, if anything, too short, and you're trying to shorten them? Imagine someone pulling their knees up to their chest
Jack Ward
I'm having trouble having an ending in mind for my comic. I like to assume having it planned out will make it easier to write events leading up to it. It's about preteens fighting, killing, or imprisoning monsters as the adults keep letting them into their small town because they're good at hiding their tendincies to eat people, and replacing them. There are some comedic elements that are going to go into it so I don't know if I should go for something dark and depressing, or more happy and feel good.
Eli Cruz
the best endings tie everything up and leave things SOLVED, not necessarily happy. solutions can leave everyone sad. Or some are happy and others are sad about the same thing. Or most things were tied up but some new tragedy happens as a result (try not to make a random tragedy happen just to end it bittersweetly) it's also fine and okay if you leave things open so the reader imagines more stuff happening in the future, just as long as the existing stuff is complete. You wanna learn a lot about writing a good comic and a perfect ending that FEELS effortless but probably took a ton of thought, read Digger
gurrl I got asthma and you're taking my breath away
Ethan Garcia
And all that smoke certainly wouldn't help!
Blake Jackson
Kage is for friendship only.
Austin Reed
that.. that's what I meant you gotta make friends before you can get all lovey. ESPECIALLY with ninja. because they will steal your heart
Jacob Lopez
Kage agrees.... And could use some friends
That's true. But getting a hold of a ninja just to be friends can be hard- they're around one second and gone the next!
David Anderson
And card games.
All this talk about romancing Kage made me want to draw this very self-serving crossover. Kinda to practice doing quick drawings with my tablet. I wanna get to the point where I can draw some things quickly without construction just for fun.
I look at my process and find ways to make more efficient without sacrificing quality.
Camden Miller
added why's this one marked mature?
Oliver Baker
That is AMAZING haha! I have no doubt Rau would quickly become the center of attention, not just for being cute but for being a REAL oni!! Love this, Ardi!!
Also card games are the key to Kage's heart haha
Jaxon Phillips
I mean this has diminishing returns. After some point you cant shave much more time.
Benjamin Rivera
Number 3 for sure
Nicholas Bennett
My bad. Fixed it.
Thomas Price
Glad you like! My other idea was Priest and Kitano getting surprisingly along about "oni" extermination.
Lucas Nelson
i wish i could draw faster not be a better drawer but just fucking simply be able to crap out a page within an hour or something
Gabriel Jenkins
Part of getting better is you do get faster, at least at familiar things, or parts of those things. the real trick is realizing that you can make quality (which takes longer) take less time by doing more prepwork. Measure twice cut once, and all that.
Tyler Howard
Hah! That'd be perfect! Sharing a common enemy would make them fast friends!
Your drawing got me thinking of making one with Masayoshi questioning if Rau being an oni puts her at a higher rank than he is.... haha
lmao this is a shitty redline, please don't listen to this guy, he's shortening the legs even more and didn't even mark the only real glaring issue, which is that abdominal muscles don't follow the motion of the body and get almost a front view, overall I think that's a great drawing, and just a small proportion issue on the lower body
Ian Rivera
I wouldn't go as far as shitty, it's just wrong but at least he's trying
Kevin Rivera
I rarely draw anything other than hardcore porn for /aco/ but I'm working on drawing my characters What I really need to work on is fucking furniture Do you know how many scenes have furniture in them? I don't know how to draw that shit
Next page has a huge painting. That painting has taken me a long time to get ready. I am pleased with the progress so far.
Cliffnotes of Mythology: Osvaldo is the Cosmic Father, who fights the Universe and the pantheon of pagan gods Dauntina is his sainted daughter, the Sister of Man, who takes Osvaldo's blood and gives it to mortalkind to fortify them against evil. Osvaldo is overwhelmed. Dauntina intervenes. She is impaled instead. She bleeds forever, in a perpetual state of dying, refusing her father's saving blood, instead giving both his and her blood to mortals, anointing them with divine worth and transcendent responsibility.
Osvaldo ceases to fight, and instead protects his daughter from the eternal onslaught of the universe, both of them bleeding and dying for eternity.
The End of Days comes if/when mortals make a mockery of their gifts--Dauntina dies at last, and Osvaldo once more takes up his broken sword against all of creation.
Austin Powell
where are the ol´nippis?
Adrian Bell
top quality myth and great poses we need more ifs in eschatology
Jose Sullivan
Gus doesn't wanna get banned like unfortunately might.
John Roberts
Gods dont have nipples. Nipples are for mortals. I stare at mine and lament that these tiny tumors shackle me to mortal coil.
DAMN MY UTTERS!
Julian Carter
yeah got carried a bit, not shitty!
Parker Wood
Better? Thanks for the tips! And I love your style! Shes 13, bouncing between her mom and dad`s house because they never got together. She practices witchcraft on the low since her Dad is a Christian and her mom is a hard core Atheist. The reason I drew her frowning is because she is prone to being bitchy towards others and she dresses is oversized clothes to hide her body. Her mom is the one who is painfully thicc
Aww, I like the one with the puffy pigtails better but thats alright And I don't mind her frowning if her character is a cynic
Jacob Hernandez
I at least agree on using the hair (any of them) from the other one
Landon Cox
Well she was meant to be fairly androgynous, though I might make her hips wider and slightly more curvy and make her less of a stick, but I haven't decided yet.
I've tossed around a few ideas for males of the race, but I haven't settled on anything yet. I wasn't thinking of making them too different with them being slightly larger being the only real change.
Jaxson Moore
interesting. I know when creating original races there's just too many options
Nolan Wood
How much money should you take a loan out for to start a webcomic?
Luis Hall
you don't need a loan for a webcomic
Joshua Myers
Zero
Lincoln Green
About $60k, put it into art school.
Gavin Green
Maybe she will wear her hair like that in flashbacks, the puffs do look like a more childish hairstyle! Also here is a look at her mom, Yazmin. I`ll take one of the anons advice and make a expression sheet, but ill save it for the next thread
Fuck that's the wrong video. He straight up puts premade faces.
Dominic Reyes
is this guy a good artist
Brandon Thomas
To see how the character...shows emotion? Making them emote is the next step you take after you design them, plus its what people look for in portfolios(depending on the job).
Kevin Baker
that'll buy you about a semester. unless you're neglecting to factor in interest. then you'd better triple that number oh jeez I think it's a great idea. animators do it. helps remind you which ones to use. sometimes I go faceblind at the worst time.
William Howard
Imagine not being able to draw your own characters, yuck, this video is real?
Aiden Cruz
Yeah I think the other user is right, the braid is a nice contrast to the puffy hairstyle but other than that I can't wait to see more! Also poor child. Doesn't have the best role model huh?
Parker Bailey
Oh, Yazmin is incredibly intelligent and well known, she is just a fucking god awful mother/lover. Which is why she has three kids with three different dads who all cant stand being around her, sans Willow`s oldest sister.
Eli Thompson
I have a grammatical doubt, is women or womens I was reading this page and I don't know whether to correct it or not make sense in this context?
Angel Lewis
women is the plural of woman. Yeah, English is weird. that's a reallly old word too. You didn't make any mistakes on that page.
Asher Lee
thank you! i'm a little bad at english haha
Benjamin Diaz
Question. Now that i am finally on the board, i want to keep my updates regular. Do you guys prefer single pages thrown up as soon as they are done, or should i do it in chunks?
the way your story works, a few pages at a time is a good idea.
Logan Robinson
Okay, the way I am going right now, I should be able to throw up 2-3 pages a week, although alternatively I could do it in larger chunks where it leaves off on cliff hangers (kinda like what i did with the intro already uploaded) but it would take longer.
Kayden Garcia
Howbout you finish the next big chunk similar to this one, look at it, mentally break it up, ask yourself what that kind of chunk would read like. whether it would just baffle people to go a week in between seeing each. because less-often-than-weekly updates are a pain but it's understandable if that's just how it has to be read.
Kevin Bailey
New bread
James Reyes
I'm trying to stay as PG/PG-13 as possible. I might even put some strategic locks of hair down.
The inevitability of the Final Judgement is good for accountability. My hope was to take that accountability up a few notches. You are responsible for how the world ends.
William Taylor
>I'm trying to stay as PG/PG-13 as possible.
Sounds a bit tough considering your main cast includes a rapist.
John Howard
I love a good challenge. In my defense, it is only ever implied, and it doesn’t happen again.
Brayden Johnson
Titanic had titties and it was PG13. So, as long as they're tasty titti--I mean, tasteFUL titties, its ok.
Andrew Gray
your comics always give me a genuine chuckle, keep it up man
How do I practice storyboarding? Am I supposed to write a script before, what’s the point in doing that? Is there any reason to learn how to storyboard
Eli James
Yes. Script first then storyboard. If you dont you'll start throwing in unnecessary scenes. Learn the basics of making a script, itll save you time. Storyboards are easy, but you can tell if people skipped that step. Look up different shots and angles too, variety is key. The same shots and angles get repetitive.
I'm doing a banner swap with a webcomic called Destiny Oblivion. They're nice people, and they're comic is pretty fanciful. Their creation story reminds me a bit of the multiverse stuff in Stardust.
Practice by doing, if you don't have a script try storyboarding a song or a piece of text from an existing story. Some people go straight into storyboards without a script, some go straight into inks, you just do what feels right for you. If you don't like scripting you don't have to. IMO I think it always benefits, especially if your story is more serious. You have a script that you can show to people and receive feedback on, when you posts drafts people have something to refer to and go 'This part didn't really fit the mood here in the script. Maybe try this...' I think most people aren't very good at writing, and good writers still go through a few drafts.
Storyboarding will allow you see your chapter or comic in full to check for pacing issues, length, and to test for compositions in scenes. In most cases, I find ways to cut down my length so my project can be more realized (it takes me about six hours to ink and screentone, so I can finish this chapter in a month while working on other projects, which means I can finish this story in...). Like mentioned, storyboarding can help you see when you're using too many of the same shots, which can bore your reader, it can also catch inefficient use of space with awkward panel sizes and word bubble placement.
Any work you do for your comic is going to benefit, and at the very least it doesn't hurt to try.
Ian Flores
a mini story idea I wonder if I should do-
Highly intelligent fungus that use some explorers/researches to wage war on other fungus
depends on the teacher and how many students (less is better)
Jonathan Richardson
hell yea that fungi look sick
Hunter Perez
I think you're doing it. just try to ensure no one will get a boner from the scene.
Connor Powell
too late
Carter Lewis
As with everything else, context matters immensely. If you're doing it to be edgy, it will never be tasteful. If you treat it with the gravitas it demands, it might be.
Leo Foster
any tips for creating names for a magical item
Juan Young
The MacGuffin device.
Brody Brooks
google some wikipedia mythology article, click linked articles about obscure mythology stuff until something good pops up
Robert Hall
How do i do lore dumps? Should i start with an exposition and world building?
Charles Carter
step 1) Read some good fantasy literature step 2)Copy the excuses they find to make the lore part of the story
Lincoln Reyes
See if you can figure out a way for one character to find it out or explain it to another (this is what Doctor Who's companions are for).
Better if you can work it into the story (ie show; don't tell).
Henry Gray
unironically give a character amnesia
Jeremiah Barnes
use a character who doesn't know what it's all about, and uses the characters who do know it to explain it to them: >Why can't we talk about the darklord? >Shhhh! The darklord controls the crimianl syndicate all over the kingdom, everyone knows it! and so
Jayden Smith
I actually hate this method. Its feels so generic and forced.
>y asks a thing and x always explains, and the audience, now knows.
Yuck.
Jeremiah Lee
do you hate metal gear games?
Joshua Flores
Is that why a muggle is in Fantastic Beasts and no one questions it
Jose Collins
The exposition in them were pretty bad, yes
Dylan Jenkins
Kojima is pretty bad at info dumps.Especially in mgs4.
Ayden Bailey
what's metal gear
Jackson Murphy
new thread guy where
Cameron Walker
after 500 comments or 150 images please dont stale or shitpost
William Jenkins
a nuclear-powered bipedal tank
Blake Foster
What scripts or stories could I use for practice
Ethan Bailey
No
Justin Richardson
don't forget Splash
Daniel Thompson
these are amazing I did a fungus world once, researching and drawing those was a lot of fun.
Brody Gomez
You can check out comicsexperience.com/scripts/ It's a bunch of scripts "donated" from actual professionals for reference. You can check a few out there, or pull up a random one from google by searching for comic scripts.
To be honest, I'd suggest looking for one that's closest to your preferred genre or see if one of your favorite comic or webcomic creators has ever posted a script in a how to or tutorial. Sometimes if you ask they might be okay with posting an old chapter's script, but don't count on it.
Getting thread ready now
Adam Taylor
alright then let's use up some posts on a scale from one to six, how many gorillas are in your webcomic?
Lincoln Ward
zero
Michael Robinson
I just go on with the story and pray the reader can assume most things from whats going on. Though there was one dump, a classical "explaining this to the curious character that doesnt know" thing.
Benjamin Brooks
I like whenever anyone busts out a whiteboard and starts pointing to it
Aiden Cruz
Yikes. Im kinda guilty on that. Usually after writing the script i just hop in on making the page and skip the storyboard.
Dominic Kelly
>pray the reader can assume most things from whats going on. I think that that's largely the way to go. It's not that difficult to infer something through context of a story, and the things that can't easily be inferred tend to be on the side of irrelevant. Sure, there are some outliers, but nine times out of ten that info/lore dump doesn't need to exist.
Samuel Harris
I get storyboarding for films, but isnt a comic storyboard the comic itself? What am I missing?
William Thomas
Storyboards are for visualizing (and improving) the idea or script, coming up with different camera angles and the pacing of the scene. These are done with simple squares and don't represent the final drawings.
But the most important reason is for yourself. Whatever animated thing you are about to create or develop, storyboarding it first will always help to PLAN YOUR WORK, which is vital to figuring out the staging of all your characters and backgrounds and how the camera will frame these elements.
Eli Mitchell
Storyboards are more like a rough draft for your visual elements. It's the stage where you are making sure that what you wrote is what is going to be shown in each panel with the proper sequence and flow (and occasional editing), but without worrying about making things perfect.
I believe some people use thumbnails and storyboards interchangeably when referring to comics, but as long as you aren't jumping right from script to inking it shouldn't matter.
