I wonder if very early Tats would recognize himself today. I'm starting over Sinfest today. Wish me luck fellas
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Nah, he'd likely want to kill himself
Sinfest had such a slow, measured descent, it took me a while to notice.
I wonder, Is there one single comic that you can point to as the real turning point?
Most people would reply the strip where Xanthe first appeared. They're not that far from the truth.
For me, it's when Slick became antagonized beyond redemption, for no reason. Apart from " he's a guy who watches p0rn ! Bad Slick !"
Is Slick still in the comic? I don't exactly keep up with it, but I feel like he's been gone for ages
in physical form. but his characteristics don't exist anymore. he's just a straw man
He appeared in a strip very recently.
He was made fun of for being a man with insecurities, and Tats went on with something else.
Oooh, he's got your number Yea Forums
Wait, which one of these characters is supposed to be bad? Is Tat anti-trans too?
Jesus, what the fuck is happening in his head right now.
Yeah the anti-trans and LGBT+ thing started last month .
I don't really get it but I kinda want to see who else can become persona non grata on his """""forum"""""
you know what I actually agree with some points that tats and rafems feminist talk about
I agree that porn is harmful and exploitative especially towards women,I agree that sex-work is dangerous and shouldn't be romanticized and I do think men should be better for both themselves and women
but stuff like male tears,all men are rapists and overall antagonistic tone they have is what turns people from their ideals
Wait...why is it ok for this dude to havs the SS double lighting bolt symbol?
Being anti-trans is not actually a good thing user and you'd realize it if you noticed how shitty every anti-trans person is.
Congratulations for thinking like a decent human being.
Now try and explain that to Tats.
It's a lost cause.
I really wonder what triggered this shift in the spirit of the comic.
sinfest is based kill all trannies
Because his true hero name is not actually Wokeman, it's Strawman.
Nobody likes trannies.
Both are correct, sadly.
Basically, Trannies are the furries of the LGBT community.
Because chopping your dick off is not a sexuality.
I'll stop being anti-trans when doctors stop superscribing testosterone to little girls who play with trucks, and sex perverts stop trying to wriggle their way into women's bathrooms and shelters. I wouldn't give to fucks about trannies if they kept all this shit to themselves instead of making everyone around them have to cater to their charade, and even worse, try to get other people to join them in ruining their bodies.
This.
They're blatantly predatory in targeting children.
>I agree that porn is harmful and exploitative especially towards women
What about all "gay for pay" men?
Can you save all strips along the way?
those are also harmful as well
How many of them even do that though?
where the fuck does he even stand anymore
is he a fucking terf or something? would be funny as fucking shit for him to try so goddamn hard to be a feminist ally all these years just to fuck himself on something stupid like that
Alright so I'm like genuinely retarded so please bear with me, but what does Transexuality (thinking you're the other gender) have to do with Lesbian, Gay, and Bi (which is all about what kind of people you wanna bang)?
I feel like Trans has to do more with how you see your body while the other three are all about sexuality, so why is Trans tacked onto the LGB?
because they're a bunch of bandwagoners that want to use LGB's success to legitimize themselves without any of the hard work.
a lot of old gen X gays feel the same way you do, but obviously they're the older generation and fewer in number among activists these days (assuming they didn't already die from AIDS before treatment was available)
Association. It's just a holdover from when the days when men into crossdressing and trannies were equated with gay men.
He seems to take the very reasonable stance that just because you dont fit every gender stereotype that exists for men, it doesn't make you a woman.
And let's face it, trannies are basically the blackface of gender. Their impersonations are offensively bad.
Hardly anybody goes for genital surgery because it's pretty painful and not advanced enough.
Most go for top surgery of some kind.
>Alright so I'm like genuinely retarded so please bear with me, but what does Transexuality (thinking you're the other gender) have to do with Lesbian, Gay, and Bi (which is all about what kind of people you wanna bang)?
They're all gender divergent behaviors which get discriminated against on the same basis of, "Men and women must act this way" - whether that's in who they love, what they wear, or how they change their bodies. It also helps that there is some overlap (inb4 some user yelling IM GAY I HATE TRANNIES yeah ok man you speak for the gays and that automatically erases all the history of association just because, whatever).
Children aren't allowed to take hormones and especially not for superficial reasons such as playing trucks, you're reading too much Breitbart.
LGBTQ tends to be an association people considered to be sexual deviants who get discriminated against because of it and alot of shit behaviour gets aimed at all of them together. It's an older association that comes from safety in numbers/shared experiences that basement dwelling radfems/trenders/whatevers aren't gonna understand because they don't get involved with the irl community and stay in twitter echochambers.
I only read Sinfest for Criminy and Fuschia, one of the purest and wholesome couples I have ever come by. When I heard he turned nutty, I just dropped it to preserve whatever memory I have of it because I'm pretty sure it won't escape Tats fucking taint.
This. Even back in the day before the trannies were a thing, they were all "I'm not gonna march with these faggots, they still got dicks, fuck working with men"
Most of them are still angry the whole political lesbian movement didn't work out. Ironically, they really were hoping that it'd turn out all those people saying "being gay isn't a choice" were wrong, not unlike evangelicals. Alas, avoiding 50% of the population (making getting any real job pretty much impossible) and not getting laid with what you were actually attracted just didn't get the mass appeal with women they were hoping for.
So you're anti-trans now then.
>I'll stop being anti-trans when doctors stop superscribing testosterone to little girls who play with trucks
Then You'll be ahppy to learn they have never done this.
>and sex perverts stop trying to wriggle their way into women's bathrooms and shelters.
Good thing it's happening either.
I guess you are pro-trans, then.
Kill yourself, trannie.
oof, yikes, that's a bad look.
Isn't the goal of these kinds of comics to simplify these kinds of academic tl;dr walls of text?
>Wall of text
>Wall of text
>Wall of text
>Wall of text
Why even use the medium of a comic if you just want to write a novel?
>o you're anti-trans now then.
I mean, in the same way im "anti-cockroach".
I think this comic used direct transcript from her books and lecture, though.
No matter what, I don't think any degree of falsehood was introduced by transitioning it into comic form.
It's part of a larger comic story. This part is just more wordy.
Yes, but "the left can't meme" is a meme for a reason. People like this can't just simplify their argument, they have to try and convince you of all of it at once and the only way they can see to do that is walls of text. Worse than libertarians in that regard.
>radfems/trenders/whatevers aren't gonna understand because they don't get involved with the irl community
They're actually the most likely to have to deal with trannies, because they're the most likely ones who attend "Women's [insert whatever here] Club"... only to have to deal with a man in a dress and a 5 o'clock shadow barging in and going "HELLO FELLOW WOMEN".
For some reason it's always the obese fat guy in Facebook who says this strawman things to care about. If he cared about children, then don't go to Yea Forums for their pedophile lust for underage characters being overly sexualized. This hatred for people who don't say anything unless you specifically provoke them for reasons that don't matter to him at all is autism. How are you getting bombarded with useless information that shouldn't matter to you unless you yourself are secretly trans?
>Yes, but "the left can't meme" is a meme for a reason.
Because the right is unable to do anything than meme, seeing it would require to develop an actual augment?
The left can meme. They simply do not consider it a valid way to argue, which is correct.
>The left can meme.
Cherry picking. Also, the left don't use mem to argue, because memes are not a good way to argue.
I mean, pepe posting basically sum up to "lol, aren't you mad wwe are winning, hehe? You so mad"
The left don't meme to argue but for reaction images.
>I regularly attend my local women's clubs/walking groups etc
>the only obvious trans woman i've ever seen at one of them is a sweet older lady who reminds me of Mrs. Doubtfire and a couple of awkward but pleasant teenagers at an after school club
>nobody goes on about trans/anti trans issues
>the worst things get is the local flower show where people bitch heavily about the judging parameters and local council taxes on events
Most women are genuinely fucking normal and have their minds on regular shit, even trans women. The "durr man in a dress invading muh spaces" argument is retarded, because i'm fairly sure people like that don't even use irl spaces.
Whenever I saw racist/facist/whatever characters in movies being hysterical morons who spout childish myths, I use to think it was an exaggeration and nobody would let themselves be that stupid.
A lot of the anti-trans proved me wrong though. If it isn't cringe shit like it's just them being angry little kids and resorting to name calling.
>"Men and women must act this way"
But that's literally all being a tranny is; having some image of "what a woman is supposed to be like", and trying (failing) to emulate it so poorly that it's a straight up sexist insult to women.
And, of course, lacking the things that actually make women "women".
They and gays were the first victims with the bar raids back then that invented the whole pride parade thing. They were each others allies and friends back then
>But that's literally all being a tranny is; having some image of "what a woman is supposed to be like"
False.
Not many people do it.
>False.
That's literally all they do.
If that wasn't true, they'd just be a dude who happens to like some things that are stereotypically girly.
>they'd just be a dude who happens to like some things that are stereotypically girly.
False.
Being a trans is not about fashion or liking, it's about being about who you are. readThey have a female brain and there is a physiological need for female hormones.
I love that he's gone full blown terf now I could support his patreon for it
>Being a trans is not about fashion or liking, it's about being about who you are.
It's literally about being who you aren't.
And no, your brain doesn't magically have xx chromosomes when everything else about you is xy.
>They have a female brain and there is a physiological need for female hormones.
One thing that I have never understood: How can you say that there is a female brain or male brain if those brains exist in both female and ale bodies? If a brain that's "supposed" to be in female body is in male body, doesn't that mean that it isn't a female brain at all but both males and females can have that brain type and it's stupid to talk about female and male brains? How can you know that it's only trans people who have "male type" or "female type" brains since normal people don't usually go to any kind of screening for that?
The strip where he becomes the bad Guy for trying to sympathise with nique and tells her to tone it Down a Little
Years later tatsu still cant defend this bullshit, he even admitted the strip Just wasnt about him anymore and all the rest was bullshit
Because limited space and panelling forces the writer and drawer to compress what is used in the medium.
Which when done correctly will increase readability, even for impatient people.
That said, the first page is good.
The rest is trash, because its not compressed. And it doesn't use the comic medium to convey information.
All of them have issues with the state of the laws, which is how sexual/identity preferences became a political movement in the first place. We live in a society, which is ordered by the government, which policies who can and who cannot inherit, marry, visit you spouse in a hospital, have adoption rights etc. If we lived in anarchy without government regulation (passports, for example) a lot of the issues would be irrelevant, but even anarchic theories end up creating some sort of a new societal structure, which obviously would have rules on its own.
TL;DR: Their "alliance" is needed to better their station against existing law systems.
>It's literally about being who you aren't.
It literally isn't. The individuality come from the brain and the brain is female.
>And no, your brain doesn't magically have xx chromosomes when everything else about you is xy.
I guess you'll have to convince this person
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
To cut her breast and get et a false penis forced on her, then, despite her having a fully functioning vagina.
Good thing there's no gender difference in brains and it's just the hormones.
>The individuality come from the brain and the brain is female.
The brain of a man is male. There is no such thing as a "female brain in a man's body", you're just a mentally unstable, overly emotional sissy that fell for the tranny meme.
>How can you say that there is a female brain or male brain if those brains exist in both female and ale bodies?
MAle and female brain have physilogical diffference. Most notably for the endocrine system, which the brain is part of. Male brain expect a male hormonal feedback, while female brain explain a female hormonal feedback.
>since normal people don't usually go to any kind of screening for that?
Scientific studies use cis people scan of brain for comparison.
Being intersex has nothing to do with being trans, it's mutation. People are not one armed species just because some people are born with one arm, people don't stop being bi-pedal species just because some people don't have legs at all. Intersex people prove that there is a sex binary because some intersex conditions can only exist in females or males.
>Multiple Disorders of Sexual Development
I don't think this is proving what you think it's proving.
If trans women have female brains why didn't their bodies get wrecked hormonally if their brains are expecting female hormones? What physical conditions do trans women have for not getting female hormones their brains are expecting?
>There is no such thing as a "female brain in a man's body"
This study show there is:
jpn.ca
Also, I just showed you the case of a woman with XY chromosomes.
>jpn.ca
Do you have studies that have more than 40 people in it?
>Being intersex has nothing to do with being trans
She is not intersex, she is fully female.
Also if you consider Intersex, then you can't simply reject the possibility og a male body with a female brain.
"In her family", not for her. She has a perfectly healthy female body with the ability to reproduce.
I really hate how trannies parade around biological intersex disorders as some kind of validation.
Those are actually horrible disorders that you are born with, that usually come with a plethora of other health issues attached to them, and are completely beyond their control.
Also, the people who post shit like that are never actually intersex themselves. They're just dumb trannies.
Lot of girls who identify as trans are autistic, and autism is basically having hyper masculine brains. Are their brains masculine because they're autistic?
This, and it's sad that the right does the opposite by turning memes into arguments
>I love this bad comic that I hated again because the author hates trannies
If she doesn't have XX chromosome's then she is intersex being intersex doesn't always manifest as having mutated genitals and so on, intersex people can have normal genitals but chromosomical issues and so on.
40 is more than enough to be representative. Also, there are multiples studies who get the same confirmation.Their sum amount to much more than 40.
Explain me what's the difference between "Silence peasant, my name is not Steve, it's Napoleon and I'm an Emperor of France" and "Silence, bigot, my name is not Steve, it's Jessica and I am a woman" that warrants diametrically different approach?
There is also many studies that reject brain sex. Why are your studies better than the studies that say there isn't brain sex?
>and autism is basically having hyper masculine brains.
False.
Everybody hates trannies.
No it isn't. Being autistic = having hyper masculine brain.
>hen she is intersex being intersex
Intersex require to have some gendered organs of the opposite gender. she doen't have any. Its not XX or XY that determine if you are intersex, but the organs you develop.
also, She is still an XY that got pregnant and give birth to a kid. Finally, that Intersex exist means that it can also allow for a male body with a female brain.
Tats is still feminist tho. That’s what a TERF means: Trans-Exclusionary Radical FEMINIST.
What does that even mean? Hahaha
>Intersex require to have some gendered organs of the opposite gender
WHOO BOY YOU FUCKING IDIOT you don't even know what being intersex means so shut up!!! Being intersex doesn't require that you absolute moron
>40 is more than enough to be representative.
No it isn't. Not even close.
>There is also many studies that reject brain sex.
There aee basically none. At most it end with "inconclusive" which isn't the same a refutation.
>Why are your studies better than the studies that say there isn't brain sex?
Because those actually exist ?
It really doesn't.
>Intersex people are individuals born with any of several variations in sex characteristics including chromosomes, gonads, sex hormones, or genitals that, according to the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, "do not fit the typical definitions for male or female bodies".[1][2] Such variations may involve genital ambiguity, and combinations of chromosomal genotype and sexual phenotype other than XY-male and XX-female.[3][4]
From wikipedia. Woman with XY chromosomes is intersex.
You aren't intersex, you're just a dumb tranny.
>A 2008 study by Madeleine S. C. Wallein, at the VU University Medical Center in the Netherlands, reported that in a group of 77 young people, ages 5 to 12, who all had gender dysphoria at the start of the study, 70 percent of the boys and 36 percent of the girls were no longer gender dysphoric after an average of 10 years’ follow-up.
Wew, what happened to all those "brains in the wrong body"?
That's the literal definition of it.
Yes it is.
>the studies that say there isn't brain sex
Well show us those studies and we'll be able to compare them.
>That's the literal definition of it.
No it fucking isn't you retarded tranny, the word you are thinking about is hermaphrodite
BASED
>Being anti-trans is not actually a good thing user
But disregarding basic biology is? Fuck off user you and your enabling is half the reason trannies suicide rates are so high.
That study doens't include brain scan.
My post gets filtered as spam for trying to put links but you are free to google "neurosexism myth" or "there is no brain sex" or something
Hermaphroditism tend to refer more specifically to the reproductive organs, but those aren't the only gendered organs.
"Intersex is having some gendered organs of the opposite gender" is a valid definition.
>But disregarding basic biology is?
Basic according to what, an ideologically driven anti-trans retard like you? I'll trust real doctors over some anonymous nobody on the internet.
>its another "Trans people are cool guys i swear" poster
>Fuck off user you and your enabling is half the reason trannies suicide rates are so high.
It certainly couldn't be all the people treating them like shit.
This.
Shit's been studied to hell and back since forever.
The belief that there's some fundamental difference between men and women's brains is called "neurosexism".
>ICV were not significantly different between groups of the same assigned sex at birth (males: F(2,96)=0.1, p=0.896; females: F(2,110)=0.3, p=0.719), see Table 1. Thus, ICV in TrM and TrW followed their sex assigned at birth, and were significantly larger in cisgender men and TrW, than in cisgender women and TrM.
?? So trannies and men have similar brains?
I'm genuinely interested in the future of this comic.
Like, are Sisters going to start murdering men on the street? Are all men going to be rounded up into concentration camps? Is Tats going to blow up a trans nightclub? I really want to see how this plays out.
All I am finding are boork and articel (and reddit discussion). Can't find a single peer-reviewed study.
chan doesn't block scientific article, please post some.
Or at least give some key words that will bring a peer-reviewed study as on of the first result.
>"Intersex is having some gendered organs of the opposite gender" is a valid definition.
But it leaves those intersex people out who do not have mutation in their genitals, so it's a shitty definition. Kinda like saying "animals that fly are birds" is valid definition even though there is other flying animals than birds
>people treating them like shit.
>Muh bullying causes suicides
Why is it races that suffer far more bullying in schools and in general are considered less privileged like blacks and Hispanics have the lowest suicide rates user? How come more privileged and less bullied groups like Asians and Whites have higher suicide rates? Why is it that the Jews in Nazi Germany somehow managed to have lower suicide rates than the trans do?
>But it leaves those intersex people out who do not have mutation in their genitals
No it doesn't. Please learn to read. I have said "gendered organs" that include genitals but cover every organs that are different for the male and female body too. Therefore, >"Intersex is having some gendered organs of the opposite gender" is a valid definition.
>Basic according to what
The sex chromosomes X an Y
Porn is extremely exploitative for men and specially for boys with some of then becoming so addicted they cant have sex or experience romantic interest for women and a Lot of prostitutes work independently and target lonely men with Poor social skills, no friends and often men who post their wives or girlfriends due to them passing as returning costumers which is manipulative and exploitative as fuck
And i believe women should be better for women and men but mostly for themselves because they are building a specially terrible sorth of hell they dont want to live in
I want a i punch women tshirt
>In conclusion, the present findings support the idea of a distinction and partial overlap between the neurobiology underlying sexual orientation and transgenderism. Moreover, the observed right-hemisphere differences between the transgender groups and cisgender controls, also after taking into account sexual orientation, specifically in the IFOF further emphasize that the signature of GD is related to self-processing and the experience of body ownership.
>Like, are Sisters going to start murdering men on the street?
He might still be anti-men, but I think he'll go on with the anti-tranny stuff for awhile, simply because trannies have an annoying habit of showing up where they're not wanted, like women's groups, or Yea Forums. That makes them far more of an annoyance than random straight right men.
Because trannies have a mental disorder.
I can understand concerns about crappy medical practices (trans share them too, fyi) but I don't get the argument that: not being happy with your body or identity is a disorder, thus it's bad.
Is he a SWERF now? He seems really obsessed with porn and sex?
The brain is actually fine, it's the body that need to be changed.
You're so close to self awareness
I guess anorexia is a legit solution to body dysphoria then.
We should liberate the other 60% from their mortal bodies then.
>The brain is actually fine, it's the body that need to be changed.
>Body is completely healthy
>Mutilate it because the brain isn't functioning right and thinks the body is wrong.
Oh, I am fully aware of the state of thing. Alt-right love meme because they are ideal to convey stereotypes without allowing for actual reflection on the matter.
Yeah at this point we're only waiting for Tats to post (even more) degrading comics that depict radfems as unreasonable angry people.
Somewhere deep inside I want the comic to go back to its funny roots and nice characters, but I've seen the forum.
There is no turning back I'm afraid
How about making an 8 year Old boy dress like a girl and dance at a strip club?
Brain and body are incompatible, but what is more important is the brain.
The brain is not functioning wrong, it' just has the physiology of the opposite gender. It's receiving hte worng hormonal feedback.
I really don't get why tranny shit is being pushed so hard.
It just sounds like a dissociation disorder, but it's literally the only kind of dissociation that people unironically try to claim bodily mutilation is the answer to.
We don't surgically graft dragon dildos onto Otherkin, or provide facial reconstructive surgery to every nutcase that thinks they're Elvis.
I am against it the same way I am against beauty pageant for toddler.
Most trans people are also gay or bisexual
Yeah, people like to pull that statistic up a lot. Doesn't really compare to race because they'd at least have family and communities to fall back on.
Terfs are based, trannies are not women
Bullshit user, the brain can be easily assisted into working in conjunction with it's perfectly healthy body through medication and psychiatric treatment. But you will never be able to get a healthy body to function properly with a brain that doesn't accept it. You don't just mutilate and cause irreversible damage to your body just to get it to subscribe to some imaginary belief the brain has.
You don't cure schizophrenia by cutting off your arm, you don't cure gender dsyphoria with a sex change.
>The brain is not wrong, it just have the physiology of the opposite gender.
So it is wrong.
>Bullshit user, the brain can be easily assisted into working in conjunction with it's perfectly healthy body through medication
the medication is the hormonal therapy. It's a physiological need. The brain need the right hormonal feedback. trying to change would require to butcher the brain.
>You don't cure schizophrenia by cutting off your arm
People who want to cut their arms don't have the brain of an armless person.
Anorexia is obviously going to be bad for your though. Asking to be called a different pronoun and taking safe transitional treatment isn't.
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No, the rest of the body is wrong. The brain would be fine with a body of the opposite gender.
>Terfs are based
I wouldn't go that far, but it's certainly understandable why they hate trannies even more than everyone else hates them.
It's like the college science club that has that one fedora faggot who shows up, isn't even a STEM major, and just wants to rant about how God isn't real the entire time, having absolutely nothing to do with science.
That's how trannies are when it comes to women groups. They clearly don't belong, and nobody wants them there.
Can we sic DC on him? You wanna bet he didn't license "Gotham."
>People who want to cut their arms don't have the brain of an armless person.
So you'd cut people's healthy arms off if they believed they didn't have arms?
There is no such thing as a "brain gender".
The body is fine until you give yourself an axe wound and pump it full of hormones.
Because thats totally the same thing right?
Im against beauty pageants too but you gotta admit an 8 year Old being sexualised and dancing in a crowd of horny men is fucked up
You have to ask yourself if you are defending something because its wrong or because you hate the people who are against it sometimes, this is how you end up loosing people
According to the HWO Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness whose the treatment is transitioning. And trans person who has transitioned is no longer suffering from Gender Dysphoria.
The thing is, tranny, I hate you more than I hate feminists. Because while a feminist is a talking hole that makes her hole unavailable and makes other holes unavailable as well, you are trying to be a hole, but failing to do so. So you're actively trying to become something useless and you're mentally ill.
It can be exploitative for both in different ways. It's a problem for people like you describe, unfortunately it's also where the most money comes from. Society isn't separate, problems aren't created purely by one gender even if they mostly manifest there, and fixing one problem often helps people on "the opposite side" too. But instead of working together idiots decide that anyone who doesn't want exactly the same things at the exact same time has to be fought against.
Too bad that transitioning is literally impossible. Chopping your dick off doesn't make you a girl.
>So you'd cut people's healthy arms off if they believed they didn't have arms?
No, I wouldn't, because they actually don't have the brain of an armless person.
Would you like to disprove his claims?
Because right now, there is an 11-year old child dancing for money at gay clubs.
>Because thats totally the same thing right?
It is.
>burgers struggle with this small amount of text
based
You are the brain user, the body is your fleshy mecha suit. If you change the brain you change the person, and most people would consider that a death in some way.
>No, I wouldn't, because they actually don't have the brain of an armless person.
Yeah just how people with gender dysphoria don't actually have the brains of the opposite sex.
>There is no such thing as a "brain gender".
I just posted tow studies showing there is.
Stop reading Breitbart.
>Sex worker exclusionary radical feminism (SWERF) is a subgroup of radical feminism characterized by whorephobia and hostility to the third wave of feminism. This tiny sliver of feminism promotes socially conservative attitudes toward sex and sexuality.
see
SO FUCKING CLOSE
>Too bad that transitioning is literally impossible.
Soon...
obgyn.onlinelibrary.wiley.com
>just how people with gender dysphoria don't actually have the brains of the opposite sex.
Except they do. It's scientifically proven.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
Or you are. Once you realise posting a popular meme doesn't mean you are right, you might get it.
Most trans don't think that.
>literally "it's a girl's penis: the post"
That the brain is gendered doesn't mean wanting kids to have sex. It's unrelated. Completely.
I mean, it is a pretty involved biochemical argument for why gender dysphoria occurs, I don't blame them for not cutting it down.
>Except they do. It's scientifically proven.
No it's not, those studies youre thinking about show that the brains have similar activity to those of the opposite sex which is cause by chemical and hormonal Imbalances which can easily be fixed by providing the proper supplements to get the brain functioning according to it's genetic makeup.
A female brain is still composed of XX chromosomes and a male brain is composed of XY chromosomes. Just because it doesn't act according to it's genetic make up doesn't change what it is
And yet the trans community keeps pushing for pre-pubescent children to act for them, at the behest of their radicalized parents.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
Actually not. I consider a trans is someone with a body of the ooposite gender of their brain.
Hes a hardcore second wave/radical first wave feminist, not a third wave one.
Because his alt-right media bubble pushes this stuff in his face 24/7.
A few years ago I too have perceived my body wrong. I believed I should cut myself open to remove metal balls from my lungs and moss from my throat. But after a few visits to a local metal institute I no longer have this compulsion and am much better off for it.
I was lucky to not have some kind of sexual deviant hallucination instead, so I wasn't preyed on by activists trying to convince that it's reality that is wrong.
>And yet the trans community keeps pushing for pre-pubescent children to act for them, at the behest of their radicalized parents.
Maybe in the nitpicked, invented stories you read on Breitbart.
>which can easily be fixed by providing the proper supplements to get the brain functioning according to it's genetic makeup.
that part has never been proven.
>A female brain is still composed of XX chromosomes and a male brain is composed of XY chromosomes.
Wrong. this a fully functioning woman with a female brain, yet an XY genetic make-up
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
please refer to
Just because you vehemently want it to not be true, doesn't make it untrue.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
user stop mutilating mentally ill potato's for your kink.
Well yeah, that's because you're insane.
I think more studies need to be done as to how someone becomes as far gone as you. It's like you injected the koolaid straight into your non-gendered brain.
>And yet the trans community keeps pushing for pre-pubescent children to act for them
No more than the hetero communities who push their toddler to beauty pageant.
>Why do you support the sexualization of children?
I don't.
Doesnt hell that the so called sexual revolution only ended with a tiny group of people having an unhealty amount of sex and everyone else being afraid of each other
I mean why bother with all that shit even porn is always there?
you do realize the "40%" were of *attempted* suicides. 100% of the people surveyed are alive and Transgendered suicide rates are so low that there is no vital data that suggests there's a suicide problems for trans people, just a depression problem.
The real suicide epidemic is white men. Who despite being the majority of the population and the most privileged make up 7 out of 10 of all successful suicides committed. that's more than 3x the next highest demographic. When adjusted for population over 25% white men successfully kill themselves. walk past three white men. Counting yourself there is 103.2% chance that one of you will kill yourselves. Literally the only group with a higher percent is American Indians who are 2% of the population and thus one suicide impacts their stat harder.
nimh.nih.gov
afsp.org
actually read facts before you mindlessly parrot things you read on Yea Forums.
>child beauty pageants are a thing, therefore we need to pimp our children to homosexual men
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
I don't think you understand what niitpicking is.
Also, telling the brain is gendered doesn't mean there is an approval of the sexualisation of kids.
You aren't intersex.
>I think more studies need to be done as to how someone becomes as far gone as you.
By studying. I informed myself about transexuals before jumping to any conclusion. It's always better to inform yourself first.
HONK HONK
That's a case if interested you fucking retard. That's a true genetic abnormality that has nothing to do with Gender Dsyphoria.
>therefore we need to pimp our children to homosexual men
Not what I said. I said the opposite, I said I was against it. It's like you don"t know how to read.
why do you keep giving me opinions that are the opposite of mine?
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
Yes, I am aware of that. And neither is that woman. It doesn't change the point that There are effectively women with XY brain.
>Case of intersex
Sorry I was just so appalled by anons retardation. I couldn't spell right
Because you refuse to answer why you support the sexualization of children. If you support the trans community, you support the sexualization of children, as they are firmly intertwined. So again I ask you:
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
Seeing as how you only have about 5 years before you kill yourself, because "transitioning" isn't real, I would probably spend it more wisely than trying to convince people on Yea Forums that irreversibly mutilating your body was a good idea.
If you ever wanted to visit somewhere in the world, now is the time. Just be aware that most places don't have designated dilating stations.
why do you keep trying to force this moot point when he already says he doesn't? it's like me saying you support rape because you're a man and cis men rape at an obnoxious rate (more than any LGBTQ group by a large margin) and men also tend to force women to carry rape babies to term. Why are you a rapist user?
Since it's such a common thing, then you'll have more examples.
Except that if one argues that only trannies that go through surgery of either kind to have their preferred genitals, I'm positive that you'd fall back on chromosomes.
>Why do you support the sexualization of children?
You are not good at reading, aren't you?
I am not. And supporting transrights doesn't mean supporting the sexualisation of kids.
Theirs is a genetic disorder.
Yours is a mental one.
You don't have a "female brain".
It's hilarious that you think that and not that they have to live in a society full of people like you.
>That's a true genetic abnormality that has nothing to do with Gender Dsyphoria.
I never said it was Gender Dysphoria. It simply prove wrong that you need to have XX to have a female brain. XY can still result in a female brain.
>Seeing as how you only have about 5 years before you kill yourself,
Got a source for that? I sure hope you're not a white male or ohnonononono see
No user, intersex individuals are neither male or female, they are intersex. They have a genetic or physical abnormality and should never be the basis for how the whole of society are treated and should treated on a case by case basis.
>Because you refuse to answer why you support the sexualization of children.
Again, giving me opinion I don't have.
I do no support sexualisation of children. I am against it. learn to read.
>If you support the trans community, you support the sexualization of children, as they are firmly intertwined.
False.
Don't worry, three years have passed ever since I have gotten a neovagina, I don't Need dilation or extra crotch care anymore. ;)
>Or you are. Once you realise posting a popular meme doesn't mean you are right,
And you've lost it
>Except that if one argues that only trannies that go through surgery of either kind to have their preferred genitals
>literally a """vagina""" made out of bits of their colon or an inflatable """penis""" with skin grafted from their arm
These are a very, very far cry from the real thing.
I'm convinced this has all been shitposting on his part, just playing the long game.
>you do realize the "40%" were of *attempted* suicides. 100% of the people surveyed are alive and Transgendered suicide rates are so low that there is no vital data that suggests there's a suicide problems for trans people, just a depression problem.
So that means that the actual rates are even worse, since they were too dead to respond to the survey.
40% tried and failed, and the other 60% succeeded in killing themselves.
>Seeing as how you only have about 5 years before you kill yourself,
Why?
>because "transitioning" isn't real
I consider it a very real thing Trans need to do.
> that irreversibly mutilating your body was a good idea.
It's actually the hormonal therapy that help the most, the surgcal operation are mostly aesthetic change to go along the change caused by the hormones.
>Just be aware that most places don't have designated dilating stations.
It's not like I need one.
>Theirs is a genetic disorder.
It's not a disorder and that's beside the point. It still show a female body can have an XY brain.
>Yours is a mental one.
I don't have one.
Awww, too bad, I was hoping for you.
>I consider it a very real thing Trans need to do.
That's the even more disturbing part.
A study was already posted about how most boys grow out of it, but causing irreparable harm to them is literally "what they need to do".
This seems to come from a place far less about what's good for anyone else, and you trying to justify your terrible life decisions by manipulating others into doing the same, before you inevitably kill yourself, because it in no way, shape, or form, has turned you into a woman.
>They have a genetic or physical abnormality and should never be the basis for how the whole of society are treated and should treated on a case by case basis.
But if society can't account for them then what you're saying is that gender is a social construct since society has to dictate to people instead of people taking a natural role. So we can change society to accommodate.
>So that means that the actual rates are even worse, since they were too dead to respond to the survey.
>40% tried and failed, and the other 60% succeeded in killing themselves.
I know this is a troll. But on the off chance that you're serious.
>100% of people took survey
>100% of people have to be alive to take a survey
>40% say they attempted suicide at an unspecified time in their past (most likely pre-transition)
>60% say they never attempted suicide in their past
>100% of people surveyed are alive because you have to be alive to take a survey
>there is no trans suicide problem
>A study was already posted about how most boys grow out of it, but causing irreparable harm to them is literally "what they need to do".
You didn't post it you posted a fragment of it and did't post th part that say that only a portion of them phase out of it. Not all of them. It's for those who don't that it is needed.
Why do you keep citing that non-academic website that's literally just a blog with a domain address?
So aside from being too many words, what's the problem here? This is just basic truth we'd all agreed on before the social justice craze, isn't it?
Wow, one example, you really showed me.
There are seven billion people in the world, you can find people doing all sorts of fucked up shit.
Seriously, stop reading Breitbart or whatever other alt-right bullshit you get your talking points from, you'll be a lot happier.
Literally not a single one of those cases was implanted in a man.
Also,
>The Current Year+5 human organ black market won't be kidneys, it will be stealing women's uteruses
literally can't make this shit up
IT's a literal academic study.
>Keep the penis, you're a retard
>Create a simulacrum, you're a retard.
Thank God for soon-avaible uterine trasplants.
>Gets proven wrong.
>"Acktually this statistic counts even people who died even though it's hard as fuck to prove, so I'm still right!"
Yes. yet there are still people who refuse to believe a person with a male body can have a female brain.
instagram.com
instagram.com
So, at least two instances of direct and actual sexualization of children, and at least one instance of teaching children that this it is good for them to be sexualized.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
It is not a moot point, because support of the trans community is the support of the sexualization of children.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
>But if society can't account for them then what you're saying is that gender is a social construct since society has to dictate to people instead of people taking a natural role. So we can change society to accommodate.
No, what I'm saying is that they a genetic abnormality that shouldn't define basic biological norms and consistencies. Gender isn't a social construct it's based on the existence of two distinct genetic sexes. Saying that gender is a social construct because of genetic abnormalities is like saying having two legs is a social construct because some people are born without legs.
But soon, it will. Also note the progress in genetic therapy and growing organs from stem cells extracted from adult bodies. It's coming sooner than you think.
>posting actual facts for a /pol/fag
He's either going to ignore it or join the 28% or ignore it.
>before you inevitably kill yourself
you should worry about yourself if you're a white male. see Reality is scary. Also livescience.com
Seeing as you probably can't read a whole article, being a /pol/fag and all here's a small highlight.
" Prepubescent kids don't take hormones, and minors never get genital surgery.
A lot of scaremongering about health care for trans kids falsely suggests that doctors push kids into making permanent changes to their bodies. Every pediatrician who spoke with Live Science for this story emphasized that this isn't true and that they don't know of any doctors who would do that."
>40% say they attempted suicide at an unspecified time in their past (most likely pre-transition)
Seems more likely it would be post-"""transition""", since the older they get, the less able they are to pass. That cute 16 year old twink is a hairy, broad shouldered, square jawed man with an adam's apple before they're 30.
>Why do you support the sexualization of children?
Why do you insist looking like a moron? again, none here do and are clearly against it.
>because support of the trans community is the support of the sexualization of children.
False. It isn't. And you still haven't proven otherwise.
>SOON, SCIENCE WILL MAKE ME INTO A CUTE ANIME GIRL
Not only is that the most petty application of gene therapy that I've ever heard, but you'll have committed suicide long before then anyway.
>Seems more likely it would be post-"""transition""
No, the highest rate is pre-transition, transition actually reduce that rate;
The body of law in the entire goddamn West Is moving against lolicon and cracks down on parents posting naked toddlers on Facebook.
Are you seriously arguing that any real abuse wouldn't be touched?
The support of the trans movement is equivalent to the support of the sexualization of children. What you are saying is "I support national socialism, but I do not support the extermination of Jews/Gypsies/homosexuals." Or, if you are logically-minded, A = B. You support A, therefore you support B.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
You do support the sexualization of children, because you support the trans community. You saying "False" doesn't make it so, because the trans community has a record of sexualizing children. Therefore, by supporting the trans community you are supporting the sexualization of children.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
>but you'll have committed suicide long before then anyway.
I think I'll outlive you.
>Gender isn't a social construct it's based on the existence of two distinct genetic sexes.
>gender isn't a social construct it's just something abstract and largely defined by society based on something biological.
user... that's a social construct. You're arguing that we shouldn't change it for "genetic abnormalities" but the fact of the matter that we can and we must. and to fix your comparison
>Saying that gender is a social construct because of genetic abnormalities is like saying "all humans have 2 legs" is a social construct because some people are born without legs.
Because saying "all humans have two legs" is a false expectation of society, just like thinking gender is sex.
>Petty application of gene therapy.
>"We can't give you a new uterus because your birth one was closer to a burger than an organ, trannies night want It!"
>28.2 white males per 100,000
>0.0282% of white males vs. 40% of trannies (minimum)
>not even counting the fact that the 0.0282% of white males were probably also trannies
>the most petty application of gene therapy that I've ever heard,
Couldn't have said it better myself. We could be curing cancer but making sure some lunatic can have a malnourished butt baby at the expense of their own well being is more important.
>The support of the trans movement is equivalent to the support of the sexualization of children.
>You do support the sexualization of children, because you support the trans community.
False. and you have systematically failed to prove that.
Bullshit, it was cross dressers at stonewall not trannys, T just claimed them as theirs after the fact cause they need legitimacy for everyone to put up with their shit.
Gender is real,,but social construct are build around it.
Please refer to
Furthermore, one case of child abuse is too many. Why do you support the sexualization of children?
If you read through the links I have provided and are capable of basic logic, you will find that you do in fact support the sexualization of children, because supporting the trans community is equal to supporting the sexualization of children, as the trans community sexualizes children.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
I am glad this is the case, however, all the trans communtiy needs to say is "muh Stonewall, muh civil rights, muh consenting child" and all that goes out the window. Furthermore the fact that you have to say "Well, we as a society are moving to solve this problem" means that you see it as a problem, but are not outraged by it.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
Yes, petty application of gene therapy. Particularly when you start to think beyond your own retarded tranny delusions, and about people with serious genetic disorders.
If you were less insane, you would realize that these types of medical advancements could cure whatever makes you a tranny in the first place, instead of changing your entire body to fit your delusion.
Kinda weird to signal virtue your opposition to the alleged sexualization of children this hard on the same website that features cunny theads just a few boards away from yours.
>Drag queen storytime is sexual.
Sure it is user.
>We could be curing cancer
Medical research Is not like a Civilization game's research, different research teams can do different things to different results.
>Implying that trans people in the study are exactly 100
And now you're just running with your own headcanon.
Incorrect. You are saying "The trans community does not promote the sexualization of children." I have provided a counter-example. It's called proof by counterexample, and is a tool in both formal and informal logic.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
>Seems more likely it would be post-"""transition"""
Based on Data it's literally more likely it was before.
>It is not a moot point, because support of the trans community is the support of the sexualization of children.
support of men being allowed to keep their penises is support of rape. why do you support rape?
>40% of trannies (minimum)
That's 40% *attempted* out of a 100% of alive survey. (/pol/ in charge of reading). the 28% of white males is successful suicides. white males making up 70% of all suicides is also successful where is there aren't enough successful transgendered suicides to put them on the white male dominated map.
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>If you read through the links I have provided and are capable of basic logic
You haven't. cherry picking case were the adult happen to be trans doesn't mean it aplly to the whole trans community.
>Furthermore, one case of child abuse is too many.
Just like Beaty pageant. Yet I do not accuse all of the non-trans to support sexualisation.
>Why do you support the sexualization of children?
People who support trans rigths do not support sexualisation of children. Seems you are too dumb to understand that.
>you're an evil 4channer nazi racist alt-right pedo troll
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
Maybe if you spent more time studying basic research methodology instead of dilating, you would see why your post is utterly retarded.
Sex is real. Social constructs like gender are built around them.
>Why do you support the sexualization of children?
Take a chill pill and relax, buddy.
>70%
It's 0.0282% of all white males, which is likely all trannies anyway.
>I have provided a counter-example
False, you have provided one case that can not be generalised the same way beauty pageant can not be used to stigmatise the whole non-trans community.
>Why do you support the sexualization of children?
I don't and supporting trans right doesn't mean support the sexualisation of kids.
>People with serious genetic illnesses die if uteri are implanted in MtF or nuts and prostates are made for FtM.
The absolute state of pathological anti-trans, go stitch back the Dick the trannies cut you off.
Because you're more likely to be raped if you're a faggot:
>Thinking that children thinking about and experimenting with their gender identity sexualises them.
You have a problem, user.
I know you've taken the tranny pill beyond any hope of all return, but in your wildest imagination, could you possibly conceive of being happy in the actual body you were born with?
Because that's also what gene therapy offers; fixing whatever fucked up signals your brain is receiving that has turned you into an utter lunatic.
I tend to not use the word Sex, as the sexgender distinction is a bit oudated.
It's more accurate to talk about
-genetic gender
-genital gender
-brain gender
All 3 of those are real
Two words aren't enough to describe three different category of gender, so I prefer to leave the word sex to the sexual act.
It make things clearer, seeing that your word sex is a mix up of genetic and gential gender, while your word gender is a mix up of the gender of the brain (still physiological) and societal gender (social construct).
Nah, I'm more interestedin the option of pursuingboth, thank you very much.
>it's okay that we do it because child beauty pageants exist
No it isn't.
>cherry picking
You claim that the trans community does not support the sexualization of children. In formal logic, we would say "A imples ~B." However, I have indicated three cases where "A implies B." Since "A cannot be (B & ~B)", your argument is flawed, and therefore false. Therefore, the trans community supports the sexualization of children.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
You are incorrect, as the laws of logic disagree with you:
cs.brown.edu
Please educate yourself and explain why you support the sexualization of children?
>and about people with serious genetic disorders.
You talk of that as if those kind of therapy would come in limited supply.
>gential
Post discarded.
lol
Maybe you should go annoy trad catholic twitter, they excuse and cover up way more pedophilia than trannies do.
The children are not the ones doing this, as they are below the age of 18 and thus not responsible for their actions. They are being sexualized by the trans community (and the rest of the LGBT+ community) via their parents.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
Why do you frequent a website that features daily CP threads?
Why do you even have pictures of sexy kids in your computer?
Sorry, I don't belong to your tranny discord, so I don't see any CP threads.
>you're an evil 4channer nazi racist alt-right pedo troll
Nice adhominem, shill.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
Trans existed for as long as humans existed. There's, of course, trans people at the time among the crossdressers
No user
7/10 people who commit suicide are white males. 70%
There's no data to suggest that any of them were trans but white men kill themselves so often that you can make a fun game out of it.
>transgender people make up .58% of the entire US population. (less than one percent)
>if every transgender person was identified as a white male and successfully killed themselves the amount of suicides would still be 6.8 of every 10 suicides are white males
>it'd still be 68% due to the sheer efficiency with which white males execute themselves,
>white male suicides still dwarves every demographic with the only one dying at a similar rate being american indians who only 2% of the population and thus every one suicide scores higher
Face it user. White males dominate the suicide Olympics.
>Why do you even have pictures of sexy kids in your computer?
I'm more disturbed over the fact that you find that kid to be "sexy".
I would describe him as "subject to regular abuse for the sake of clown world virtue signaling", not "sexy".
>Children don't think and make no decisions for themselves.
Sure they don't.
Again, why don't you go bother trad catholic twitter with your incessant sniping? They actively defend institutions that have facilitated mass child sexual abuse for decades, at least.
>Why do you supporto the sexualization of children?
Fuck off with your repetitive emotional baiting, you're not using the definition of "sexualization" that's actually used by experts and lawmakers.
There's no point in aguing with you.
>im a newfag
>>it's okay that we do it because child beauty pageants exist
Not what I said, I said it was not okay. Again, you suck at reading.
> I have indicated three cases where "A implies B."
You haven't. Correlation does not imply causation. And Fringe events does not even qualify to be called correlation, the same way the non-trans community does not support toddler beauty pageant, the same way the trans community do not support sexualisation of kids.
>Why do you support the sexualization of children?
They do not support sexualisation of children and Non-trans do not support toddler beauty pageant.
>as the laws of logic disagree with you:
Why do you suck at logic?
We talkin' 3D or 2D kids? Cause I'll sexualize the fuck outta 2Ders. Those sluts are always asking for it.
what is a sexualization expert and hpow do i become one lol?
>>it's okay that we do it because child beauty pageants exist
Learn to read, this is not what the post you quoted is saying.
I'm starting to believe there ARE the fuckers posting the cunny threads. Why are you avoiding such a simple question? Why is a moralfag utterly concerned with the sexualization of children posting on a board that features literal CP and loli?
Yet you somehow found this picture from your daily web browsing from a year ago. And then saved it in your porn cache
Posts like this make me wonder if trannies even read the "peer reviewed research papers" they post.
Having had to read dozens during my chemistry undergrad, I'm really not sure how one can have such a blatant ignorance of literal gradeschool statistics while pretending to understand a single thing that you've read... and this isn't even getting into p-values, RMS and such.
>Yea Forums doesn't exist
>/trash/ doesn't exist.
Pic related, (You).
Well, you obviously are, and you're using a facile contextless version of logic to excuse your ceaseless demonisation and abuse of peaceful people who've done nothing to you or anyone else.
raped by a man who couldn't rape if he didn't have a penis. Why do you support rape?
>-genetic gender
>-genital gender
these are both sex
-brain gender
Take enough hormones and this is whatever you need it to be.
There's only biological sex (this is exclusively chromosomes because the creation process has bugs that can incorrectly make genitals) and gender. (this is how we treat people)
Actually I'm pretty sure I found it on Yea Forums, and saved it in my "honk honk" folder.
You're literally the only one describing it as "sexy".
Be a child psychiatrist.
drawings arent actually cp, not everyone lives on a hellish police state
Are you saying Cunny posters are trans all along? Elaborate
So rare mutants?
>"honk honk" folder
Well that's a self-own right there. Get off Yea Forums for a while, you'll feel better.
>Take enough hormones and this is whatever you need it to be.
Not even that is true. It basically just makes you perpetually unstable as someone going through puberty, AT BEST.
>i need to download pictures to post them
newfag
You're the one posting it and fapping to it. Not me
You're the only one who thinks it's sexy, you deranged tranny.
>these are both sex
More or less what I said, the word "sex" conflate the two, something that is better to avoid.
>Take enough hormones and this is whatever you need it to be.
Wrong Male brain require male hormones and female brain require female hormone.
>(this is exclusively chromosomes because the creation process has bugs that can incorrectly make genitals)
False ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Like I said the gendersex dichotomy is starting to be outdated, and it's better toleave the word sex to the sexual act.
Mods should just ban Sinfest. Literally every fucking thread devolves into a "/pol/ coming out of the woodwork while radical lefties justify themselves" shitfling.
she is not mutant, her body is that of a normal female person.
Nigga, the Yea Forums meme about "Party Vans" wasn't about a literal van to bring about cheer, it was about people posting literal 3D Child Porn on and that the users reported somehow.
And when loli artists are suspected to "trace from cheese pizza", they don't mean they are tracing pictures of literal pizza.
parentcenterhub.org
>fuck off reeeee stop proving me wrong
Just because you disagree with it doesn't make it untrue. Why do you support the sexualization of children?
>fringe events
Just because you don't know how formal logic works doesn't make it untrue. Look at the link provided.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
Cope harder. Why do you support the sexualization of children?
Women can rape as well, therefore having a penis is not mandatory to being able to be a rapist, therefore you are wrong.
>MALE BRAIN
>FEMALE BRAIN
I don't get it.
Do you think people can also be born with the wrong gendered liver? The wrong gendered large intestine? The wrong gendered lungs?
>Just because you don't know how formal logic works doesn't make it untrue.
I know how it work andit's that you rely on faulty logic that make what you say untrue.
>Why do you support the sexualization of children?
I don't and the same way non-trans do not support toddler beauty pageant, the same way non-trans do not support sexualisation of kids.
You will die alone and unloved.
>Do you think people can also be born with the wrong gendered liver?
Liver is not a gendered organ. the brain is.
you are aware there are biological difference between men and women, right?
Considering that the computer science department of Brown University disagrees with you and agrees with me, I am correct and you are incorrect.
cs.brown.edu
I find it funny how you couldn't prove me wrong so you just tried to argue from a position of authority while implying the paper is illegitimate but not posting any actual proof that it is (because you can't).
Just imagine if actual academia was as retarded as you.
>gentleman we've taken this survey across an entire country with hard numbers that paint that paint a bleak picture.
>I went to college and think you're wrong and therefore you are
>what? where's your data, your counter points, your conflicting survey
>my counterpoint is that I'm smart and you're dumb
>dang boys, he got us. pack it up.
Lmao, I wonder what your research papers looked like.
>Women can rape as well
Men rape far more than women who are at an acceptable margin of error due to lack of testosterone. why do you support rape?
You're running under a chicken and the egg scenario. You assume extended mental states don't effect brain structure which we know they do. The brain structure change could be a result of nurture not nature.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
>Liver is not a gendered organ. the brain is.
No wonder lefties believe in bullshit pseudo science like charkras and chi when they legitimately believe stupid bullshit like this.
>Just because you don't know how formal logic works
You didn't use formal logic. You also made several logical faults.
>A cannot be (B & ~B)
A group of car cannot have red cars and non red cars at the same time is what you are trying to convnce us.
>he thinks the brain and the liver comparable in complexity simply because they're both inside his fat neet body
Wew
>Disproof by Counterexample
You are applying a logic process that DISproof something,
Disprooving and proving are not the same thing.
therefore, you have not proven that supporting trans right means supporting the sexualisation of children. Thank you.
Well, I can safely tell you that perverts don't now and have never needed to pretend to be trannies to weasel into the ladies room.
>Why do you support the sexualization of children?
I don't. And supporting trans right do not support the sexualisation of children.
The brain is part of the endocrine system of the human body. Do you believe the endocrine system is the same for men and women ?
>It basically just makes you perpetually unstable as someone going through puberty, AT BEST.
that's actually at worst. at best you're mentally whatever you would've been without being socialized for it.
>Wrong Male brain require male hormones and female brain require female hormone.
you can get those in pill form.
>False ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
This article is about an intersex woman with qn XY chromosome and more or less proves that gender is a social construct as if we were going by chromosomes they'd be a pregnant male. However this is a mutation. Biological sex would be if this woman's body developed into the male body it was supposed to be if it didn't y'know, mutate.
>The brain is part of the endocrine system of the human body.
I think you're shooting yourself in the dick here, if you still have one.
You're claiming that THE BRAIN, which you consider in yourself to be """A FEMALE BRAIN""", is behaving exactly like """THE MALE BRAIN""" that is actually is, and the solution to your actual male brain behaving like a male brain is to pump it full of external hormones, due to how you believe it should behave.
Sounds like you're just a fucking lunatic with a "male brain" in a male body.
You are moving the goalposts, tranny. You claimed that men need to have their penises cut off because only they rape. I have disproven your claim with a counter-example. Therefore, according to logic, you are wrong. Good day, please desist from further posting, and stop supporting the sexualization of children.
user you have a big hill to climb if your going to convince me being trans is harmless.
>You are moving the goalposts
pot, kettle.
>You claimed that men need to have their penises cut off because only they rape
Never happened.
Men need to be sterilized because they rape the most. Why do you support rape?
Except you are claiming that the trans community does not sexualize children. My disproval of that means that the trans community sexualizes children. Why do you support the sexualization of children?
Wrong.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
>you can get those in pill form.
It doesn't change that they are male and female brain.
>This article is about an intersex woman
Sheis not intersex, none of her organs are male.
>as if we were going by chromosomes they'd be a pregnant male.
Hence why it is impotent to make the distinction between the genetic gender and the genitalic gender, they aren't the same thing.
Like I said, the Gendersex dichotomy is strating to be outdated as 2 words aren't enough to cover 4 differnet notions that need to be distinct.
What you can sex
-genetic gender
-genitalic gender
Those can be different, hence they shouldn't be grouped in a singled notion
what you call gender
-brain gender
-societal gender
The brain gender is physiological and not a societal construct and therefore it is important to distinct it fromthe societal gender that is a social construct.
LEave the word sex to the sexual act instead of trying to use it to designate things that do not always aligne with each other.
>You're claiming that THE BRAIN, which you consider in yourself to be """A FEMALE BRAIN""", is behaving exactly like """THE MALE BRAIN""
I have never said that and nothing of what I said imply that. It's the opposite of what I said, please, read again.
It's really just
>genetic gender
>genetic disorder
and the latter has absolutely nothing to do with your retarded tranny bullshit.
> You claimed that men need to have their penises cut off because only they rape.
>because only they rape.
You just pulled that out of your ass. find the quote that says only men rape. they need their dicks cut off cause they rape too much. why do you support rape?
>Except you are claiming that the trans community does not sexualize children.
Wrong I have been claiming that
1.supporting trans right does not mean supporting the sexualisation of kids
2. the trans community do not support the sexualisation of kid more than the non-trans support beauty pageant for toddler.
> My disproval of that
Disproving an absolute doe not lead to prove the opposite of it is absolutely true. Learn to logic.
Here is your logic error:
-There are no red car
-False, there is a red car there, therefore, all car are Red
All the care are not red, yet I have applied the same faulty logic you have been using.
>Why do you support the sexualization of children?
I do not and you have failed to prove that supporting trans right support the sexualisation of kids.
It's not about disorder.
>Except you are claiming that the trans community does not sexualize children. My disproval of that means that the trans community sexualizes children
Man, you need to upgrade your logic cursus to group theory.
You are trained by your news sources to think people who disagree with you are radicalized. They are not. At best they are correct, at worst they are wrong. Liberals aren't (at the very lest intentionally trying to) murder kids, kill whites, destroy religion, turn kids into gays, sexualize kids or turn the country into a simultaneous globalist dictatorship anarchist communist socialized hellscape.
Think carefully about why people act the way they do and the most likely conclusions you come up with should either be
1. They are uninformed/poorly informed/or misinformed
2. They have some information you don't
3. They disagree with you
You shouldn't assume that people who disagree with you are a cabal of villains, knowingly set to destroy you and all things good. It makes you look like the radicalized one.
Resetera-morphs out in full force.
How can you have a male body and female brain when that's a social construct?
Gender isn't a social construct, but many social construct are build around it.
>this entire thread
Not really.
AY YO HOL UP, YOU BE SAYIN I DUN HAVE A BROTHA BRAIN JUST CUZ I AIN'T GOT THE MELANIN??
SHEEEEIIIT, YOU TRIPPIN DAWG
The only times it isn't is when those people are being abused or denied proper medical advice. Have some common sense.
The right supports very simple "in vs out" self-evident ideas that don't require context. You're either onboard or not, whereas the left embraces ideas that require specific framing to be reasonable. Without that nuance the base idea sounds insane. Therefore the right can condense info down to meme format while the left is stuck relying on manifestos.
Really selling their point, ain'tcha?
>The right supports very simple "in vs out" self-evident ideas that don't require context.
Here is the thing, the right also require specific framing to be reasonable, this is why their meme only amuse them and are only functional in an echo chamber.
>common sense and proper medical advice is "chopping your dick off in a futile attempt to become a woman, and end up killing yourself anyway"
That's not how stats work.
>only functional in an echo chamber.
Compare /pol/ vs. /leftypol/. What you said is literally the opposite of what actually happens.
who broke the /pol/tard and why does he just repeat shit over and over?
Common sense is not saying idiotic stuff like that. Few trans go for that kind of surgery because it's not good enough yet.
>The right supports very simple "in vs out" self-evident ideas that don't require context.
Yeah, they tend to reference conspiracy theories and pseudoscience a lot. That doesn't mean it makes for engaging discourse, nor does it translate to memes without manipulating the content so much it becomes straight up propaganda.
It depends of what you are evaluating. Sample of that size can be used in certain initial drug trial.
I'm not talking about lazy frog shit. Stuff like pointing out the obvious flaws of Communism in a single image where it would take a lefty quite a bit more time and effort to try and excuse the failings by blaming a bunch of different factors. The problem is that all those factors are redundant because everyone knows by now that Communism is a shit system and there's no saving that trash fire.
Hormonal therapy actually reduce the risk of suicide and the surgical operation is mostly ofr aesthetic changes.
>aesthetic changes.
I don't think you can call it an "aesthetic change" when you go in looking like a relatively normal human being, and come out looking like a horrifying abomination.
Why? Why can't someone have a black brain in a white body?
Grow up.
>Most trans don't think that.
It's more a joke about sjw's holding the two viewpoints at the same time.
It's not like people were clawing at their throats for the Supreme Court to indict Joan Rivers for fucking up her face out of pure vanity when she was alive. Why can't you extend the same courtesy (personal freedom and responsibility) towards trans people?
Very early ones that assess whether or not a drug has a strong chance to kill the average person. The smaller the sample size in any study, the more dramatic the difference between groups must be in order to be considered legit, and it's still considered suspect. And no, you don't add up the total samples in multiple studies. That is meaningless.
Pointing out the obvious flaw of capitalism is also easy to make in a single picture, but it's still lazy
Meanwhile lefty walls of text still read as insanely divorced from reality outside of the echo Chambers that spawned them.
>Grow up.
Something trannies will never experience. :^)
Flaws are flaws. Issues with early capitalism created socialism after all.
That's not how genetic work. You genes have the full map for a male and a female body, whther you have Y or not.
The Y (or lack of it) is supposed to activate some process that determine which part of the blueprint is going to be executed, but the full schematic for the male and female body is there anyway.
If you do it early, it can be quite convicing. And with the medical progress, it's only going to improve.
>Why can't you extend the same courtesy (personal freedom and responsibility) towards trans people?
Because they refuse to extend that courtesy to begin with.
Seeing as how you can't even pass on an anonymous pakistani horse racing forum, I don't even want to imagine what you're actually like in real life.
Race is wholly genetic user, I think your just Trans-racist
And I bet that makes you so happy too, you sociopath.
>If you do it early, it can be quite convicing.
It literally isn't. This is likely why they all kill themselves.
You won't have the same prepubescent twink body in your 20s, and by 30 its literally impossible to lie to yourself about it any more.
How could he get canceled?
Something that irritates me is that we'll probably figure out which chemical switches to flip and fix transsexualism, but by that time there will be an entrenched community screeching about how that's literally Hitler. It's already happened with deaf people and autistics.
Tats still likes gays, though. Out of LGBT, he only has a problem with the T.
The axe seems to imply he feels physically threatened. Somehow.
With the end of the Net Neutrality, IPS could, if they want, simply choose to throttle the connection of those who desire to have access to hi website. Or even no longer provide access to it.
Normally it's stuff like ruining their rep for business dealings but I imagine Tat himself has sabotaged any of that.
They could resort to dos attacks and cost him a bundle in server fees, like tumblr loons once did to the Ava's Demon website.
>I'm starting over Sinfest today
Danny, you're a young man! Don't do it!
>Something that irritates me is that we'll probably figure out which chemical switches to flip and fix transsexualis
Most studies so far seems to indicate otherwise and that it is a neural structure that define the gender identity, not just a chemical in the brain. You'd have to baiscally replace the brain with the brain of someone else to get what you want. Which is basically death.
>It's already happened with deaf people and autistics.
Haven't heard of the deaf people thing but I hear the treatment for autism is some victorian 'beat-the-devil-out' shit.
I'm talking about modification in the womb or during early development once we figure out predictive markers.
>It's already happened with autistics.
I am sure being beaten to death is a medical treatment trans have been subjected to quite often already.
>Out of LGBT, he only has a problem with the T.
That describes most people, including the rest of the LGB community.
Kek.
You're uninformed. Some deaf and autistic communities oppose the idea of a cure/giving deaf infants implants so they can hear because that means something is wrong with them personally and of course it would eventually destroy said community.
I'm confused. Which trans organization is stopping you from fucking up your face and body with plastic surgery?
Passing isn't necessary. You don't consider ugly women less female simply because they're not attractive to you.
>HURR MUH VAGINA
You call women roasties because you think too much sex makes vaginas loose. You obviously don't give a shit either way.
very minor case. Most deaf rely to implants.
This is already the case 2 decades ago
>You don't consider ugly women less female
No, I consider them to be ugly women.
You're not an ugly woman, you're a mutilated man. that barely passes as human.
That it happens at all is absurd and luckily they don't have the political power to prevent parents from doing what is right for their kid. The same will not be said for transexuals, who are already embroiled in politics.
Yeah, 'some'. Every community has it's extremes but that doesn't mean they speak for the whole. Most who spout that kind of shit are edgy teenagers anyway.
>I consider them to be ugly women
Which makes them literal non-persons to you and worthy of the title of "roasties". Trans people don't give a shit about your feigned concerned towards women because you don't give a flying fuck. It's plain to see. Why should they care about "passing" for you?
>The same will not be said for transexuals, who are already embroiled in politics.
There is even less trans than deaf people, so no.
>Most deaf rely to implants
Most can't afford them, genius.
>Trans people don't give a shit about your feigned concerned towards women because you don't give a flying fuck.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that I give a shit about women.
Trannies are just utterly disgusting and obnoxious. How you act in this thread is the same way you act everywhere else. I hope their suicide rate goes up simply so that I have less of you dipshits to deal with.
I can't help noticing how numbers mean jack shit in the world of politics and social pressure. Or did you somehow miss the last half decade?
We both know the lbgt community has plenty of loud extremists so it's going to be far worse than either example.
So the presentage of trans who try to commit suicide and who do commit suicide is greater than 40%? I don't see how this is a good argument.
>I can't help noticing how numbers mean jack shit in the world of politics and social pressure.
It does when it comes to lobby power. Most trans aren't at the head of big industries.
>I'm not sure where you got the idea that I give a shit about women.
I literally just told you I don't think you do, and you're conceding to it. I'm supposed to lose this argument how?
Every now and again I visit Sinfest to see the latest update and every time I regret it.
Shame what it's become
By a small amount.
Gay people are not anywhere near significant numbers. They got the attention if Democrats, who took up the cause.
Move those goalposts, baby. Push em.
No, stop lying. Why do you support the sexualization of children?
It does and you are using logic improperly.
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
Why do you support the sexualization of children?
>You don't care about women!
...And?
We're not talking about women, we're talking about trannies.
I don't see a quote. Leave it to rapists to lie. Why do you support rape?
Can you not read? it's no where close to 40%. it's barely half of 1%. Yikes, sorry all the words confused you.
I presented a theory and you proved it without the slightest hint of irony. Sucks to be you, but you can't bitch to me about it.
uh oh. he posted it again
See
Join the 70%
>It does and you are using logic improperly.
I am not.
Most trans don't support sexualisation of kids, therefore it is false to claim trans support sexualisation of kids.
Most non-trans don't support beauty pageant for toddlers, therefore it is false to claim non-trans support beauty pageant for toddlers.
The same logic apply.
Real talk, would anyone unironically leave their child alone with a tranny?
Why would I leave my kid with a stranger?
>/trash/ has cp threads
>Yea Forums has them anymore than once a year for half an hour
Get stuffed.
She has a genetic mutation user, her body is far from normal.
user I can assure you that all aspects of human biology have minor variations between the sexes
No, I leave them to Yea Forums and let them pretend to be tranny experts to serve my /pol/ ego because I'm a shit parent who teaches my child that there's value in learning shit information about trans so they can grow up to be upstanding citizens arguing with normies in a comic thread
I'm not even sure what this word salad is supposed to be mocking.
Not even the ones you are arguing to, and I don’t consider myself anti-trans, but I don’t agree with that “change the mind is death” part
Literally everything about the thought is the result of the brain being “programmed” in a certain way. Learning something new is changing the way your mind is and work, changing idea about something is modifying your brain, and it’s been scientifically proven that depression is correlated to parts of the brain working differently from normal
Now I’m not arguing about sexual dysphoria being the same as depression, just that if you argue that changing the brain to get the “normal” gender is death, the same would apply to taking medications for depression
lets just all agree Porn is bad for everyone
You're not a good person if you're browsing Yea Forums, user. It requires a conscious effort to ignore the literal CP that is traded every day on boards like Yea Forums, Yea Forums, you name it.
You're genuinely better off leaving your kid with a trans baby sitter than finding out he browses redpill shit. You might as well take for granted that he has seen CP, gore and has developed more than one fucked fetish.
What do you risk with a trans person? The kid asking what's the make up?
>What do you risk with a trans person?
High rates of sexual abuse, and likely killing at least themselves before you pick your child up.
Even leaving them with Yea Forums would be less fucked up.
>CP!!!!
That's more of a Resetera thing than a Yea Forums thing, you dumb tranny.
>stuff like male tears,all men are rapists and overall antagonistic tone
BTW, not so far ago I found old Sinfest strip, where such statesments were shown as Devils weapon. It was one of the last colored strips of 2009.
>Then You'll be ahppy to learn they have never done this.
Did they just superscribe androgen blockers for boys?
>High rates of sexual abuse
Like I said, the conscious effort to ignore the LITERAL CHILD PORN traded on the website while you assume trans people are going to rape your child is something else.
>MUH RESETERA
Christ.
user I want you to consider the following. Transitioning reduces the suicide rate by an amount, could be any amount, but it's not perfect. In order to accomodate this treatment the entirety of society and social structure has to be changed in large and small ways. Let's ignore the cost of that for a moment and suggest the turn over Is painless. There is no evidence concluding that transgenderism is a distinct genetic disorder that can be identified, it like most psychology problems likely has both genetic and environmental components. That means the more acceptable being trans is, the more trans people there will be. Let's look at this in numbers.
Out of 1000 trans people who live to transitioning, 400 attempt suicide. After transition, 330 do so agian. A minimum of 400 unique individuals attempt suicide at least once, with a maximum of 730 unique individuals attempting suicide.
Let's say that all those changes increased the number of trans people by 1% this doesn't match the increases in self and parent reporting but I'm being generous.
Now, of the 1010 new individuals 404 will attempt suicide before transitioning, and 333 after.
The new min is 404 the new max is 737.
Just a 1% change in their population led to 4-7 new attempts. It is mathematically better to not try and enforce transitioning till a link between acceptance and trans identity has been established or disproven.
Literal child porn is traded on tranny discords.
Its banned on Yea Forums.
user wut, you only said
>100% were alive to self report
>60% didn't attempt
>40% did