Lu Ten

>If the city is as magnificent as its wall, Ba Sing Se must be something to behold. I hope you all may see it someday, if we don't burn it to the ground first [laughs]

Why did based Iroh mean by this?

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He was celebrating the death of millions

You heard him

>Iroh used to be a bad person
Iroh used to be part of the Fire Nation army and believe the lies of its Nation, but he is never seen being cruel, sadistic, ruthless or straight up evil like Ozai and Azula.

Zuko was raised by psycho Ozai and he turned out to be a good person

When?

Comblr can't think any deeper than fire nation=bad guys

This. They were starving out the city. The siege lasted 600 fucking days and they had eventually reached the agrarian sector of the city. Pretty sure millions starved.

A lot of peasants from the Earth Kingdom were Lu-Ten’s bastards sons

The man raped so many earth kingdom girls that entire towns have fire royal blood flowing through their veins

and it took a long ass time, most of it with Iroh being de-facto father figure, for it to stick

Iroh wasn't just part of the army, and he wasn't a kid like Zuko. He was second only to Ozai and seemed to be in charge of leading the invasion as a whole. I mean he became a good person later, but the idea that he didn't know what he was doing is stupid, it was his invasion.

>decisive Tang victory

Did he also fuck Ursa when Ozai was traveling around the world looking for the Avatar?

Of course he was evil. It's practically in his name. All he ever did when going to other nations was a lot of Lu Ten.

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>Implying the fire nation did anything wrong

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Iroh was always one of the good guys, he spared the last dragon. He largely only tried to conquer Ba Sing Se because he thought that was his destiny after having a vision of it as a youth.

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>died honorably in battle rather than staying behind and doing jack all in the palace while a war was going on
At the very least he's a good two steps above Ozai

He spared both the dragons while he was in his prime, long before his son died. He was always a good man, his son dying just gave him a little extra push in that direction

Iroh was and always will be a terrible person who wanted his nephew to kills 14 year old

This answer seems closest to the truth. He and Iroh seemed genuinely close, so I can't imagine him being all that bad since Iroh wasn't all that bad

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Fucking kek.

Azula tried to murder Zuko with lightning bending in the very first episode she was introduced in. I think after that point it pretty much counts as self-defense.

A tyrant will always find a pretext for their tyranny. Iroh only believed in Zuko because he was sexist

No, he was always compassionate and cared about others. Did you forget why he ended up getting half his face burned off in the first place?

I assumed he was just a patriotic soldier. Another average joe steered wrong and pointlessly dying for his country's propaganda.

Neither, Lu Ten was like one of the soldiers you saw on Zuko's ship in the first season. A normal guy (as normal goes for royalty) who loved his people and his country.

It was the death of Lu Ten that caused Iroh to question his life and question the Fire Kingdom.
Before that he was like any other Fire Nation general.

If Lu Ten had survived, what do you think his relationship with Azula would have been like once they were wed?

Goddammit user, this shouldn't of made me chuckle like it did.

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Ah yes, the super compassionate lad who threatened a bunch of elderly and children with burning if they didn't tell him where the Avatar was(Which he couldn't know for sure was even there.)

Guy doesn't even start his warming until book 2.

Iroh was supposed to be some kind of sun tzu guy, not an autistic hitler

Azula was shit

>he is never seen being cruel, sadistic, ruthless or straight up evil like Ozai and Azula.
what about when he joke about burning ba sing se to the ground

Probably evil since Iroh was originally a dick before he redeemed himself.

Iroh was a bloodthirsty warlord turn buddhist osama bin laden that liked to pretend he was a better person than Ozai becouse he couldn't be a better bender
he never once helped Zuko and only worked to turn him into a spineless fuck up that would do as he was told - it was only when Zuko got away from Iroh the prince was able to find his spine and grow in power

>what do you think his relationship with Azula would have been like once they were wed?

He probably only would've been as close to her as custom demanded it. Beyond that, I think he'd probably try to do what he could to keep her at a distance, but no so far that she could do damage to the country if in the event she tried to launch a coup and seize power for herself.

The part that always seemed fucked up about Iroh telling Zuko to confront Azula and put her down, when he wasn’t willing to confront his own brother who stole his birthright.

You could say that the reasoning behind that is that Iroh felt he was just too old to assume the throne at this point and felt it'd be better left in the hands of Zuko, who had the potential to reign far longer than he would. And also probably because he just wanted to retire full time and didn't want to deal with the responsibility of the throne.

Though, of course, that was shot to shit by the comics having him be substitute Fire-Lord for when Zuko went to look for Ursa.