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Is Alan Scott still gay?
That’s an alternate version of him that’s the Champion of the Green
Cool
Those things don’t get undone. Alan is ruined for good.
That was an alternate universe. Bobbyfags need to shut the fuck up.
Just bring back Obsidian and then the number of gays is perfectly balanced.
It's Alan old costume so I'm going to say no. His kids, Todd and Jade, might be back too but if they are it would probably be as teenagers from the looks of Jay looking younger.
Based Snyder
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JUSTICE LEAGUE #31
>written by SCOTT SNYDER and JAMES TYNION IV
>art by JORGE JIMENEZ
>cover by FRANCIS MANAPUL
>variant cover by JULIAN TOTINO TEDESCO
>“The Justice Doom War” part two! The culmination of Lex Luthor’s plan hinges on his beating the Justice League to the prize, ratcheting up the peril as the Year of the Villain continues! The Totality has shattered and its pieces have been tossed across space and time. Thus, the Justice League must also split apart, forming three search teams to comb the past, present, and future to re-combine the Totality before the Legion of Doom can get its villainous hands on the cosmic weapon. What allies will our heroes find in these other timelines? In the future, it’s the Last Boy on Earth, Kamandi! But in the past, there are the familiar faces of the Justice Society of America!
> But in the past, there are the familiar faces of the Justice Society of America!
Butt hurt priest fan huh
Explain.
prepare yourself for tynion to write the eventual solo book
>Snyder on JSA
>Bendis on LSH
Still the worst timeline I see
Him being gay changes almost nothing.
The issue was him and the others being young
Nothing in particular. Newsarama, Bleedingcool, CBR or their comicscuck alternative versions doesn't deserve clicks.
How else are they gonna justify his kids never existing?
Apart from him having a wife, and that being a major part of his character of course
You know what I don't even care at this point
I hope not, I want his gay son back
>Snyder JSA
not like this
not like this
Better thanTom King.
He still can be gay and having children
He wouldn't be the first, especially if he still is from the 40s
That's the lowest bar.
>He still can be gay and having children
He can still be straight and have the same children without complicating things
DC has already admitted they hate the JSA more than Adolf Hitler so there is no reason to be excited.
Nice Classic young JSA. I see they added Wildcat and Starman. Separate Hawkman?
Guess Spectre is still alone.
But now reading the solicication....hmm dunno.
Fuck my life, this is why we can't have nice things.
Out of AAAALL the writers, DC chooses their biggest cancers and gives them JSA and LOSH.
SMDH.
Seriously, is there any DC character Tom King can write without completely turning him into shit? He did a great Green Lantern one shot but I fear what he might do if he gets a full run
Love or hate them (I do), they're their biggest names. As much as Yea Forums likes to suck Tomasi's dick, he doesn't sell.
Is Jack and Tom canon now?
I'm getting shit, because people in Murica have shit taste.
It's not fair, user....
Wasn't JSA doing really well when DC decided to just cancel it out of the blue back in 2011? It had a second book for the teen members, they were doing an event, what happened that they just removed everything and canceled it all?
>Separate Hawkman?
It could be the same one that Vendetti is writing due to how he explained how all the Hawkmen exist
>Guess Spectre is still alone.
Ostrander did an arc that had a government agent tracking down and asking the surviving members of the JSA about The Spectre. The general conclusion that he was a sad, depressed loner who barely interacted with any of them.
Tomasi was actually assistant-editing that book
This would be more exciting and hype if it had happened long ago.
Now it just smells of desperation.
>The the guy wearing a puffy pirate shirt and purple cape possibly gay?
Apart from being the original champion of Gotham that banged the Harley and Ivy of his day.
DC will keep Alan gay and make him being gay in the 1940s dealing with homo discrimination etc a big part of his character.
fucking finally it's been so long
are the rest of the solicitations up?
The executives and suits decided to do a hard reboot in 2011, and every book got cancelled. Morrison and Johns still had pull, so their ongoing stories continued (despite everything else getting rebooted).
Didio did an interview around that time about how the JSA are now retired as a concept, and revealed that there would be an Earth-2 book that would feature young and new versions of the JSA. I can't find that interview right now, but can find references to it in other articles.
>Wasn't JSA doing really well when DC decided to just cancel it out of the blue back in 2011?
Eh, I'd have to look up the numbers, but the various writers who had been on it since Johns left were not very good. There were a couple really dumb stories that I can remember, including Alan getting his neck broken and looking like a literal lantern.
I think people forget about how terrible many books were becoming around early 2011.
Bendis is on LSH? Oh God no. When did this happen?!
>”Look! It is the Justice Society of America!!! Member the JSA?!!! Member them, huh?!! Aren’t we so cool and based?!!”
No, DC. I haven’t forgotten you making Wally West a serial killer or making Dick into Ric. If anything I am expecting you to ruin this team as well (probably by giving them to Tom King).
Gay straight bi are such boring terms. Someone like Alan would be a pansexual stud Chad banging whatever and whoever hot came his way.
>are the rest of the solicitations up?
They might be up friday, which seems to be the day DC announces these things. There's at least one other large announcement happening tomorrow
>Bendis is on LSH? Oh God no. When did this happen?!
It hasn't, yet. Bendis has been teasing a bunch of DC's future timelines with the hastag "Millennium." He's supposed to announce something tomorrow.
He's tweeted out images of the Giffen "Five Years Later" Legion (a dead timeline), Batman Beyond, and new art from Cheung featuring OMAC
The Sprectre is showing up in the next Detective Comics arc so there is hope.
Just wait until either one is tanking, probably LoSH because Bendis can't even write the X-Men so there's no way he'll handle them well, and we'll get the whole "well we tried but it's not what the fans wanted so we're cancelling them for another half-decade" spiel.
Eh I wouldn't expect pre flashpoint JSA
does anyone else remembers Kamandi and how his earth was fucked up by Karate Kid?
I kind of liked that story
This.
Will the JSA all have PSTD now too?
does this mean that wally's wife and kids are back?
Feelss like Metaverse and Earth Zero are seperate.
no karate kid fucked up the utopia that came from batman killing some bitches and made it kamandi's world.
remember kids batman killing the joker starts a chain of events that leads to utopia... not that judge death ripoff looking batman shit.
Val did what?
Nope. Herc was made gay in alternate universe and then his sexuality in 616 was retconned from bi to straight.
Not happening, Bobbyfag. Enjoy Todd Rice as the faggot of the family with his father still having flings with villaness.
Him not being there for kids is a huge part of his character you fucking loon. That's hard to do for a gay character.
Of course, but what really prevented Obsidian and Jade from existing in Earth 2 was not the fact he was gay, but the fact he was young.
Young Allan came first. And since young Allan means no gay son, they made Alan gay instead
how is that hard?
>has a relationship with a woman in his 20s
>gets out of the closet
>woman left him without telling him she's pregnant
Confrims Doomsday clock is seperate canon from this.
the Source wall
>the source Walls been SHATTERED - what lays beyond?
the totality
>the totality's been SHATTERED
its all so tiresome...
Why make Alan gay? Just make Obsidian more visible. The guy was one of the strongest gays in comics and pretty much when he goes nuts (thanks to his powers) the only person who can stop him is his father.
Nrama: So does this tie in to Doomsday Clock at all? Because we’ve seen the seeds of the Justice Society returning in Doomsday Clock.
Snyder: Not really. I mean, Doomsday Clock really is its own wonderful, incredible story. The kind of light connection between them is just that, what Geoff and I talked about was because Doomsday Clock is kind of running at its own pace and in its own kind of continuity, what I didn’t want to do was bring the JSA back before he had a chance to reintroduce them as a concept in issue #10.
I think that’s similar with other characters that he’s going to be using in Doomsday Clock as well.
So there’s a nod to each other in that regard. I wanted him to be able to have the JSA as an idea, and have that first appearance in Doomsday Clock.
But in terms of the continuities linking up, Doomsday Clock is a very special and inspirational book. We’re all amazed, I think, at how good it is. But its effects are relatively self-contained to itself.
Yeah Metaverse vs Earth Zero. Metaverse Wally isnt a killer though.
3 jokers is part of the Metaverse.
Because people demand representation from one of the big names and not a side character
Which really means the choice was down to Alan, Jay or Hawkgirl. And they decided to make Hawkgirl the ambiguous brown.
Fuck that. Just retcon Jay to be gay and make Joan into John.
We need a gay speedsters to get these whales off the back of Wally, Barry, and Bart.
Green Lanterns are diverse enough with 2 Mexicans, a Muslim-Arab, and a black guy and then there's the Asian and Black kid lanterns.
why is snyder on this book.
He doesn't know how to write jl now they are giving him jsa?
Fuck this cancer
Because He still makes DC money.
he was infected with a virus weapon by a rogue monitor. he was bouncing through the multiverse when the virus went off and mutated a paradise world of earth 51 into the world of kamandi. earth 51 was a utopia because batman killed the joker after he took a crow bar to the jason todd killing him and then murdered every super villain before literally going after white collar criminals. there was throwaway line saying batman was still on the loose after all these years and people were still too afraid to do anything wrong after he went after the white collar criminals.
Ah, Countdown. I'd repressed all of it.
I can’t wait to see how they ruin the JSA like they did Wally.
sounds neat, but the article makes it seem like theyll be appearing in 2 issues of JL and not have their own book, am i a brainlet for not understanding the article?
Sounds like Synders version is alt past of Earth Zero.
So it's a time travel appearance with the JSA from the forties? They aren't back in the present yet.
Synder will have them stay in the present. Like Cap America.
Sooner or later someone is going to have to write one of those "x kills the universe" stories with Rip Hunter so he can get revenge on everyone who can't time travel responsibly.
Robinson said it was because Earth 2 allen was "too young to have children".
This raises the question of why they decided to do modernized reboot of the JSA and make certain characters into composites with their legacies instead of just continuing on from where they were pre-flashpoint, just on their own earth. Really New 52 Earth 2 was a broken concept from the beginning.
>This raises the question of why they decided to do modernized reboot of the JSA and make certain characters into composites with their legacies instead of just continuing on from where they were pre-flashpoint, just on their own earth. Really New 52 Earth 2 was a broken concept from the beginning.
> composites with their legacies
That pissed me off the most. I really wanted to see Alan flirting and slutting up with his male villains. What the fuck is the point of making him gay if he won't be the same Alan?
After the delays, DC basically canned the whole thing with Doomsday Clock wrapping up Rebirth and tieing in with the rest of the books. It was supposed to be set a year in the future but nothing will tie into it now.
Only 3 jokers black label is tying into it now. And that's it.
Synder has Starman, Wildcat.
Johns has Superman, Spectre, Johnny Thunder.
Not him but there's no fucking way DC will allow a gay superhero to have a gay son because that brings up the unfortunate trope that homosexuality is genetic and DC will be assraped by SJWs for that.
They can still say that gay young Alan exists but that this is straight Alan with the gay son.
Theyre gonna have straight Alan with no kids.
Post Crisis retroactive stories rarely actually use the standing membership from when the stories should be taking place. Stuff like Jay, Alan, and other showing up when they werre'nt on the team, Wildcat and Mr Terrific being more present.
Kind of sad they're missing a Wonder Woman analogue. Would had liked to see Ms America, Golden Age Fury, or have them retcon Exoristos in WW's place. Even bringing back Myrina would have been something(didn't she have a trophy from golden age Minister Blizzard in her hideout during Darkseid War?)
Well if they are from the 40's, then yeah obviously. Eventually will get the kids (maybe) oh God someone just kill Didio already, I just want a damn Infinity, Inc.
They will just use the old earth 2 versions sans certain members and remove their kids.
I will never not be confused why Hal “God of Light” Jordan didn’t just wipe out Moebius and Grail and Darkseid and Luthor and the Crime Syndicate THEN put down his OP god powers.
Unless the story really expects me to believe Superman and Lex’s super Saiyan power ups and Grail being able to nudge the ALE around is on par with being light everywhere and rezing entire Corps
You're sentence makes no sense. This obviously not New 52 Earth 2. It's a JSA in the 1940's, so none of the kids should be present. I see nothing that would peg this as Pre crisis Earth 2. It's clearly the restored to the main continuity timeline JSA in the forties after Manhattans alterations to remove them are fixed.
Makes me wonder about when Pre-flashpoint Powergirl we saw trapped inbetween dimensions in Deathstroke is going to be resolved.
Oh boy I can't wait for Snyder to kill half of them to show off how badass his cool new villain is
Did you just forget Grayson was a comic that existed
His sentence makes sense retard. He means old Earth 2 pre crisis with no legacy characters. Same as Barry is Flash but his mom was killed.
Thats how Didio likes it.
Don't expect pre flashpoint JSA back.
Is Cyclone coming back?
They aren't bring back precrisis Earth 2 circa the seventies. New 52 Earth is still occupying it cosmic realestate. This is the main continuity JSA in the forties.
What here makes you think it's pre crisis earth 2 circa the sixties(By the seventies you already had the first legacies)?
You are a retard. Synder is bring back jsa ftom the past.
Core concept, no baggage.
Exactly. It's the JSA from the forties, from the main continuity. Not Pre-crisis Earth 2.
How will they explain the JSAs absence in the 70s? The same stuck in time plot?
From what I've heard the justice League thing here is guess appearance, With Snyder's ongoing with them being set in the forties, with him saying he's excited to be writing their first missions and origins.
Who knows what maybe going on with their present day counterparts( I'd be okay with most of them being deceased and represented in the present by their legacies with Jay, Alan, and Ted Grant as the remaining veterans,but using the ragnarok dimension as out of aging card could be an option.)
Oh and Hawkman is the same guy do to reincarnation, and Kent Nelson is alive thanks to magic at least until the end of the current JLD arc.
Damnit, will someone burn down that ducking monkey paw?
His superman sold better than Bendis current run
Watch out, he'll get upset and attack you or deny what you said
>Snyder and Tynion
Purple is a man's color, dammit!
Plenty of gay guys have had wives, user. Many even knocked them up a few times.
That was before people started losing their minds in the internet.
Plus Herc was already bi in the main continuity anyway.
Herc isn't Bi anymore. He was retconned into being straight and this isn't that recent. Try again, casual.
>isn't that
*pretty recent, the retcon