Champions #6 Storytime

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Don't tell me what to do I'm an adult

Snowguard really is a fun addition to this team. She looks awesome on the big splash pages.
>"are you some kind of golem?"
Throwback from the Weirdworld arc?

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Cute team-up. I wonder if we'll ever get an origin issue for Qureshi.

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Kaine go see your fucking daughter for fucks sake

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Prepare your anus, Brün.

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Nice detail with Pinpoint's portal in the background.

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why can´t marvel released at least on comic for the old fans? they release so much sjw/feminist trash, surely at least one without it should be ok

He's too busy taking care of his autistic brother

Don't you ever get tired of this?

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Everything about this is cringe.
At least it's everything fucking awful about the 2010's contained to a single series.

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as long as you give him attention, no

Oh no. Crisis of faith!

My bad.

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Ok we get it didio, you hate teen and legacy characters, you don't have to keep saying it

>Don't you ever get tired of this?
Most people were tired of SJW shit 6 years ago, and its aged like milk since.

But didn't the Dsir join Hela of their own free will?

Here we have a sketch of Pinpoint's design. Looks like the bracelets he uses have a meaning of sorts?

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read this trash?
yes

What's SJW about this. Minorities existing?

I'm an old fan and I don't want to read the same characters in the same situations again and again
That's why I enjoy comics like Champions.

Well that was fun.

Next month: Sam & Kaldera's Bizarre Adventures! Also known as The Quest For The Lost Helmet!

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FINALLY done with the tie-ins and getting back to the meat

>last tweet
Based

>14 118 Champions 5 $3.99 05/01/19 Marvel 19,336
better have sex then so that more people with your taste exist because sales don´t seem so good.
>That's why I enjoy comics like Champions.
but that is my point. comics like Champions are the norm and have been for years now.
meanwhile no comcis for my interest are published anymore

You know what? Zub got me here.
Victor may be a legacy character, but he is a pre ANAD one. He has never been a Legacy Darling who gets to guest star everywhere, like Kamala or Miles.
So he could really have been killed. Glad that didn't happen.

>I can't lead the Champions anymore
Again? Isn't this, like, the third time?

>what's SJW about "Failed SJW characters: the series"?
The Islamist in the literal terrorist costume was also a nice touch.

Point me to another teen team book please, I miss young avengers

>meanwhile no comcis for my interest are published anymore
Did you try CyberPepe or that Malin scam comics?

So...your problem is those characters existing. Yeah, as expected

Thanks OP, this was a fun issue

You have to go the webcomic route these days.
There's nithing from the big two worth reading.
Yeah, 90% of webcomics are shit, but those are still much better odds than 100% of nuMarvel and DC cuckery.

Yikes, so these are the webcomic shills

They all flopped because they're terrible characters.
That is the overwhelming majority opinion, hence why they flopped.

>literal terrorist costume
It's just a niqab.
Conflating quality with sales is the first sign of a comicsgater aching to make a point about a comic he doesn't like for fatuous reasons.
You're welcome. I'm gonna do Ironheart #7 next in a bit.

well the fact that those character are always portrayed as better as beloved white male heroes and the fact that we are supposed to accept of old white male heroes getting replaced by them

So? Characters who suck upon inception have frequently been used and written better somewhere else. Why are you against them being used elsewhere?

Where in this issue do you see that? Who are they replacing? Why are you regurgitating arguments long outdated?

>Conflating quality with sales is the first sign of a comicsgater aching to make a point about a comic he doesn't like for fatuous reasons.
pretending that sales don´t matter is also the sign of somebody blinded by his own agenda

>champions
>quality
Do you literally read any comics outside of Marvel?
This is shit even by webcomic standards, and thats a low bar to trip over.

How is this shit though

Thx for storytime op, have a cute Aracely

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>Where in this issue do you see that? Who are they replacing? Why are you regurgitating arguments long outdated?
just a general critic of minority characters. Peter and Tony for example both go turned into huge losers to make miles and the iron hearth girl seem more competent and cool and marvel would love to replace those two white men in a second if they could.
even worse is what they did to thor to push their feminist garbage

>just a general critic of minority characters
Which doesn't apply to anything in champions, basically? Go complain elsewhere with this outdated shit

>just a general critic of minority characters
So you're criticizing a comic you haven't even read based on the kind of characters that appears, and you expect people to take your argument seriously?
It's all bullshit, there was none of your "general critique" in any of these issues so far, but I guess that won't stop your complaining.

Anyway, Ironheart #7 here , come join those who care.

>What's SJW about this. Minorities existing?
most of their storylines almost always feature some line about "toxic masculinity" and "institutional racism" or "islamohophia"
also there are just one of many symptoms of the sjw takeover.
I honestly wouldn´t care about them if like I said before we still got classic stories with cool white male heroes and some cheesecake every now and then

The yandere alien assasin girlfriend and the wimpy boyfriend story. Fuck I needed that.

I am reading Karnilla in this as spiteful and bitter when calling Hela my Queen. She hated Hela so I can't see this working otherwise. Besides she and Balder are one of my fav Asgardian pairings alongside Sif and Bill.

miles is apart of the champions so it´s fair criticism

Oh, you're that sad fuck in every thread. I honestly kind of pity you, but you're more annoying than pitiable so fuck you. Go read silver surfer if you want both

No it isn't, not at all. Because miles actually fuck uped badly and isn't replacing peter in any way, shape or form. Seriously go fuck off somewhere else

Wasn't there a rumor that this was going to get cancelled?
True and frankly Kamala and Miles are the last reason I read this comic, it's mostly Dam, Viv and the other characters. So the Kamiles drama is a but annoying to me.

Speaking of failed SJW garbage...

>Nova! Put the helmet on so that I can make you make me feel like a true woman! I'm already splaying for you!!

"Champions charge". Is that their "Titans together"?

>saying Dìsir doesn't summon them anymore
So if they were lifted from their curse, it confirms they're in fact already free, which negates the premise of the whole issue.

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It's not, because he actually quit the Champions on #4. Not that you'd know.
That thread was so fun.

I've been out for a bit. What's Kaine actually up to these days?

Needs more Pinpoint

It doesn't help that the cast of characters might somehow be even worse than "West Coast Avengers".

He moved to Vegas to beat the shit out of Ben Reilly.

>Wasn't there a rumor that this was going to get cancelled?
I thought it just got relaunched in a desperat attempt to boost numbers

Fuck off, dust has probably been around longer than you've been reading comics

>Go read silver surfer if you want both
where you chemically castrated after trying to rape little boys? how does silver surfer have cheesecake?

I don't like Champions or Riri Iron Heart of Miles Morales B U T i acknowledge that they belong to the younger comic buyers market.
Anybody interested in this generation getting their own M2 Universe?

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Younger buyers dont like that shit either, they read Moongirl.

Look at dat silver ass and come back to me

That’s awfully specific user, something you want to tell us? Sure explains a lot of your posts

The problem is that the YA buyers don't go to comic stores so books targetted at them are screwed on floppy sales. Marvel really needs to do a revamp and do something to get teens reading comics again.

I think most Yea Forumsmblr posters are tranny pedos
that´s pretty much it user.
even somebody with an low iq like yours should be able to understand at what I was hinting at

gay porn shots in comics are nothing special user you can see spider-man or batman getting naked at least twice per month these days

user, once again, something you want to tell us? Sure sounds like projection to me

>Marvel really needs to do a revamp and do something to get teens reading comics again.
They could always try putting out comics that arent complete shit.

You still haven’t explained why this is shit. Besides, YA is shit in general so supposedly being shit should help it sell

>I think most Yea Forumsmblr posters are tranny pedos
Is this how you justify your pointless animosity without arguments? By calling everyone you don't like "discord trannies" and whatnot?
Either way it seems to me you're not even the audience for comic books in general, because I can't imagine a guy like yourself enjoying anything even from 10 years ago. The fact that you've latched onto this on the basis that it's "SJW shit" even though it's a mix of teen heroes from all over the world is pretty telling.

You gonna get BLACKED

>abloobloo I'm a grown up man who wants his nostalgia blanket

don´t you call anybody who doesn´t like the direction modern comics have taken /pol/, nazis or incels?
taking about calling the kettle black

you sure like using the word "projection" for somebody who does it to other people

>the younger comic buyers market has to be 100% woke
I think this attitude is the reason why young people don´t want to read comics

Haven't done either of those, while you definitely accused people of being pedos just because they're calling you out on your bullshit.

>Power Man with chi powers
Did Danny and Luke have a gay baby when I wasn't looking?

>Haven't done either of those,
yeah right user
> calling you out on your bullshit.
you haven´t called out anything. just thrown around insults so don´t wonder when people insult you back

Looking at the sales numbers, the target audience of this comic isnt anybody.

Where are the insults in my post? This is why replying to guys like you is a waste of time, always deflecting and avoiding to come clean about your grievances because deep down you know you got no leg to stand on. For instance this is complete bullshit , you won't find any of those things in Champions so far no matter what you're after, so the only way you can have something to complain about is if you come up with "general criticisms" instead of addressing what's in front of you.

Worst part is, rightfully telling you to fuck off only makes you clutch your pearls in feigned outrage because god forbid someone stoops to your level.

Plenty of series have low sales right now because Marvel flooded the market with minis. And either way, sales != quality, we've gone through this. Savage Avengers #1 was the top seller last month and that one had Deodato's art in it.

Or maybe its not selling because its just shit.
There has never been anything "quality" about it, regardless of who's writing it.

Not him, but nigger, its Current Year+4.
Nobody is outraged at nuMarvel SJW shit.
Outrage would require it to be unexpected.
This is just run of the mill marvelcuck shit, which is justifiably perpetually mocked.

>Worst part is, rightfully telling
why are sjws always so overdramatic.
this is Yea Forums not shakespeare drama class.
all I want to know why cheescake has to be outlawed nowadays

>Outrage would require it to be unexpected.
No, not at all. All outrage requires is whining, which is basically what (You) are doing

>all I want to know why cheescake has to be outlawed nowadays
And I want to know is why you want to fap to teenage characters.

You unironically seem far more outraged than everyone going "oh look, more SJW shit, yawn."

Nigger that's fucking basic english, as in, actually sub high-school english. Have you not even entered high school?

Glad to Aracely again

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Yes, I am irritated at the constant nonsensical "criticisms" that isn't even related to the issue. And if they did that and just fucked off after that, I would be fine. But nooo, have to whine more. So excuse me while I rant a little

Does that mean if he fought Captain Britain, Brian's punches would power him up?
And he could tank hits from Mjolnir?

Glad to see*

>this is Yea Forums not shakespeare drama class.
What the fuck? "Rightfully telling" is shakespeare level English now? Actually read some Shakespeare, please. Oh wait, you'll complain it's SJW shit too

All you're doing is whining about stuff that isn't there and you get mad because people tell you it's not at all that. In fact, you SEETHE because people won't agree with you and start pulling sales numbers as if that's going to prove your point.

You are not excused, and deserve every bit of mockery for your abhorrent taste.
If this is the kind of crap you defend, you should be used to it by now.

So can you actually explain why you think this issue in particular is shit? I’ll be glad to actually engage in conversation

Wish they could go back to texas.

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Except you aren’t even mocking my taste. All you’re doing is repeating “SJW SJW” over and over again like it’s supposed to mean something

>the absolute state of shitposting gators

The cast of characters is awful. That's an objective fact.
The dialogue is the absolute worst of Whedon-quipping.
The villains are boring as shit.
Pretty much every single thing about the writing is fucking godawful. The only thing i can have sympathy for is the artists, who are forced to illustrate this train wreck. This has consistently been one of the worst ongoings Marvel publishes, and changing writers didnt help in the slightest.

At least try with your shit spewing.

>The cast of characters is awful. That's an objective fact.
How are they awful in this issue
>quipping
Can you point out the quips? Why do you have a problem with quips?
>villains are boring
Do you read Thor or even know their backstory?

>STILL replying to shit bait
Jesus fuck

Why not, free bumps and I’m bored and want to vent

>Bring it on, Smurfette!
Does Marvel even have editors? Who the fuck O.K.'d this dialogue?

Snowguard gonna choke a bitch

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>The cast of characters is awful. That's an objective fact.
Really? Objective? People do like these characters, maybe not all of them but individually. This isn't even proper criticism.
>The dialogue is the absolute worst of Whedon-quipping.
Where's this quipping?
>The villains are boring as shit.
Okay? It's part of a tie-in in War of the Realms, they're all part of that cast. They're only ones among the many who are throwing down on Earth.
>This has consistently been one of the worst ongoings Marvel publishes, and changing writers didnt help in the slightest.
The problem is that you haven't said anything of substance, just calling it SHIT SHIT and SJW SJW, it doesn't go beyond that. I'd say even Waid's run had its moments amidst the glaring issues, but Zub's writing did turn the ship around, specially with the Weirdworld arc. If you mean to tell me that one was shit too and that it was full of "quipping" then it's obvious you need to wipe your eyes before reading, or maybe check your hateboner at the door.

See, this is what I mean by dumb criticism. She's blue, what else is he gonna call her?

Is that why all their books were canceled?
Because people like them so much?
Is that why fans were complaining about them for years?
Is that why retailers were complaining about them for years?
Is that why Marvel's own CEO said "This was a mistake"?
Is that why this is also selling like shit?
Where are these imaginary fans you speak of, outside your pathetic shilling attempt?
Nobody likes them because its SJW shit.
You can bitch and moan as much as you like, but nobody likes SJW shit, and numbers don't lie. I'll just sit here and laugh as SJW shit continues to bleed them dry.

>Is that why all their books were canceled?
Were they? Miles and Kamala have books, Nadia does too, Ironheart also has hers, Viv's only books have been The Visions and this one, and the rest are supporting casts in this book in particular. The only one who had his book cancelled was Nova, and that was back in 2017.
>Is that why fans were complaining about them for years?
>Is that why retailers were complaining about them for years?
>Is that why Marvel's own CEO said "This was a mistake"?
All this shit is from 2016 tops, though? I don't think anyone has actually complained about them recently.
I mean, all you're proving here is that you're an outrage peddler, not someone who reads comics books on the regular, or else you'd know all that crap you're talking about was more about Marvel's shitty overshipping practices and nothing to do with the characters, which by the way, were a temporary change that was reverted within a year after Secret Empire... An event from TWO YEARS AGO.

based

If I were outraged, I would be going "I cant believe how they ruined [insert any given woke queen slayyy diversity replacement shit here]".
I'm not saying that, because they were never, ever good, and absolutely nothing has changed.
The reason they were all retconned into your shitty team book, with all the original charcters brought back, is because these characters objectively suck, and everybody hates them.

But you are spending post after post complaining about the same thing, so yeah I would say you’re outraged

Besides, you don’t speak for everyone. If you’re purely going by sales then everyone hates Hawkman, Daniel and Lucifer even more and yes I am salty those three aren’t doing better

>If I were outraged, I would be going "I cant believe how they ruined [insert any given woke queen slayyy diversity replacement shit here]".
No, outrage goes both ways and you're clearly PRESSED about these characters existing because they allegedly take the light about your white male original ones.
Don't try and spin it around because you're obviously upset about this or else you wouldn't have dropped your Ben Shapiro routine of gish-galloping me in an attempt to drown me with half-assed, barely factual arguments.
>The reason they were all retconned into your shitty team book
That's not what retcon means
> with all the original charcters brought back
Deaths in comic books never last, newsflash
>is because these characters objectively suck, and everybody hates them
Everybody meaning you? And furthermore, if you hate them SO much why do you spend so much energy in a thread about them? If they were so universally hated they wouldn't even have a book in first place, just so you know.

>you don’t speak for everyone.
Of course not.
The vast majority of people of people speak for the vast majority of people, and they all disagree with you. I'm just reiterating the overwhelming message that got them all canceled in the first place, you dumb SJW.

>The vast majority of people of people speak for the vast majority of people, and they all disagree with you
Source
>they got canceled
They didn’t though?

>The vast majority of people of people speak for the vast majority of people, and they all disagree with you.
You're still trying to speak for a "vast majority" that doesn't exist beyond youtube outrage farms, twitter cults and Bounding Into Comics. And that's not gonna cut it.
>I'm just reiterating the overwhelming message that got them all canceled in the first place
When were they cancelled? What the fuck are you talking about?

>She's blue, what else is he gonna call her?
that's racist

when do we get the following of that storyline ?

No? The fuck does an undead valkyrie know about the smurfs?

How new are you?
amp.theguardian.com/books/2017/apr/03/marvel-executive-says-emphasis-on-diversity-may-have-alienated-readers

Next issue, Champions #7 next month.

needs more Sam

How new are YOU? Those guys aren't even in the current directive, this was before Cebulski. And what exactly was cancelled you dumbass? See that you can't even answer to that?
I gave you a full list.

And nothing has changed since then.
You cant say "LOL ITS FIXED" when precisely fuck all has been fixed.

>And nothing has changed since then.
I'd say A LOT has changed in fact. Immortal Hulk outsells Batman, and Marvel now has 40% retail share, vs. 28% of DC and the rest. And this is right before Hickman's X-Men reboot btw.
I mean, you can scream all about how "nothing has changed" because the legacy characters are still around, but I can only say cry more, I guess? They aren't going anywhere, nobody gives a shit about you because I'm pretty damn sure you don't even buy comics.
>"n-neither do them, muh sjws!"
While that might be true (and arguably since someone MUST be doing it), I'd rather have a book like this than whatever bullshit you claim to like.

Thanks Op!

>print 500% more comics
>overship them by 10,000%
>barely increases yohr market share
yikes

user...DC is the one overshipping now. Their unit share is similar to marvel’s but their retail is half

Funny you sqy that when recently the only complain reteillers had was about DC, which lead to Didio to ask them not to bitch aboit it, and ending up cutting half the books because they sold like crap.

Most of them weren't overshipped though, that was DC. But whatever helps you sleep at night with your conspiracy theories.
And yes I've seen the numbers, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

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>you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
It was obvious from his first fucking post in this thread, yet here we are

YAY! It's Best Girl!

Thats what you should do when writers are putting out shit comics.

Oh no hummingbird is next on Viv's list

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Except DC’s best books are the lowest selling, and crap like Batman still tops the charts, so the crap stays while good stuff is out

>Repeating their mantra of lies hoping it will catch on

Gosh, DCfags are pigs.

It would seem that way.

Fuck.

I can't believe that Hummingbird and Sam didnt get a reunion

That what he was forced to do because ptherwise they would have stopped buying althogeter.
They literally refused that shit.

>Except DC’s best books are the lowest selling
*except Green Lantern

>"it's good because it sells like shit"
If you had any taste at all, you wouldn't be reading capeshittery in the first place.
Failing at selling capeshittery is like coming in last place at the special olympics, and then trying to claim "TFW TWO SMURT 2 WIN"

You sound like the webcomicfag from earlier. Still here?
Anyway that's not why they're good, and I'm saying this as someone who doesn't regularly read DC much beyond two titles. They're good DESPITE their low sales... I know the difference is subtle but do try to keep up.

Hope they have hate sex.

Eh, this more continuity then SJW stuff. To get Baldur out of Hel, Karnilla took Baldur's place and got married to Hela.

>Peter and Tony for example both go turned into huge losers
Peter has been a loser, since, like, 1962 you fucking child, and Tony's been an alcoholic whose companies keep going to shit because he makes really bad decisions.since at least Michelinie's first run on Iron Man.

God, she's fucking adorable -- would daughteru her.

Demon in a Bottle, man. It's like they don't fucking know about the characters beyond the Raimi and MCU portrayals.

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Awesome storytime, OP. Can't wait for next issue.

Don't know who Hummingbird is, but she cute.

I hope she becomes a main stay

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Is Aracely literally intrigued and in awe here?

Silly user nobody on Yea Forums reads comics

scary

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>lies
>lack of understanding how economy works

Biggest difference between a Marvel and DC fans
Marvelfags gives zero fucks about what's happening to DC, you won't find Marvelfags flooding DC storytimes out of pitiful resentment.
DCfags are the worst drama queens there is, they need to create a narrative in order to validate their flaws, they can't stand the fact they are ignored and irrelevant.

The only thing worse than a loser is a sore loser.

Yeah pretty much

HUMMINGBIRD?!

It is their Avengers Assemble.

>Marvel now has 40% retail share, vs. 28% of DC and the rest.
yeah but marvel also has released 100% more comics then DC over the last few months.
not saying that DC is any better or vice versa
they are both getting ruined by sjw stuff

>I mean, you can scream all about how "nothing has changed"
revealing female outfits are still haram so nothing has changed for me at least

>Are you some kind of golem ?
right where it hurt

>yeah but marvel also has released 100% more comics then DC over the last few months.
You might be reading the data wrongly. Notice the Unit share, DC is releasing less titles, but somehow they have more units last month, even though in April 2019 their retail and unit share was basically the same. This screams overshipping on DC's side.
>revealing female outfits are still haram so nothing has changed for me at least
Go fap or pay for a commission, nobody cares. Dumb complaint as usual.

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Funny, early today i was thinking about Yost. Damn i wish he would start writing comics again.

Nice, it has been a while since Power Man had some space to shine.

Now this is what i'm looking forward!
Thanks OP!

>This screams overshipping on DC's side.
It has already been confirmed by LCS owners on twitter months ago.

BASED storyline. Sam's my favorite Champion

Ahhhh finaly, hope they do a nova recap so i can start a collection with this one
hopefully considering the prewiew , thx for answering

No brown girl is safe.

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First she came for Kamala, and I didn't speak up because I was not a Ms Marvel fan.
Then she came for Red Locust, and I didn't speak up because I was not a Chapulín Colorado fan.
Then she came for Riri, and I didn't speak up because I am not an Iron Man fan.
Then she came for Aracely, and I didn't speak out because I was not a New Warriors fan...

>Kamala
>Red Locust
so-source?

Reminded that vision may not have built her with simulated genitalia or a reproductive function, the split and fight with her copy prove she is/has a female soul but biologicly Viv is a girl only on paper.
It woudn't be that far-fetched to see her as an extension of Vision dating young girls

Nah just kidding about those two. But you were intrigued, weren't you?
He doesn't really have a soul though, does he?

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Vision was one of the heroes temporarily resurrected during Chaos War

I think that definitively proves that he has a soul

>He doesn't really have a soul though, does he
I got no idea, i would say no since he's a construct, but Viv display hers when a copy of her is made and she become human shortly before possesing her dying robotic copy.
So a big 'probably' on both.

>But you were intrigued, weren't you?
anything that includes Kamala and haram things will always be of my interest

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"Soul" in itself is an abstract human idea anyway, which is tied to the metaphysical realm and a qualifier of "life" moreso than anything else. I'd say any being self-aware enough and capable of their own thoughts and feelings possesses a "soul", tied to the greater scheme of things beyond utilitarian purposes.

What the fuck! That's Pinpoint?!

Sam.

But yeah, he does look sort of Asian for a lot of scenes in that comic.

yes

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Just noticed the green hair was missing, because it could've easily been an extended version of this scene.
But no! Qureshi is pure, pure!

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What music is he listening to?

youtube.com/watch?v=o7wSqYm91fM

youtube.com/watch?v=Y88LVU7MAe4

youtu.be/XSFbOxoG540

Porn when?

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How much sex are they having?

Nadia is a cute

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she applauds all the flying latino men right now

Poor Sam is all spent by now. Next issue will be him bedridden, getting hydrated while Kaldera gets ready for another round.

>Please Kaldera I'm too young to be a father

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Did Viv get brown girl fetish after being turned into one?

Taking her home to meet the family is going to be awkward

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the rest of the shit show was worth it
best girl is back

>They found a country over siege
Do.. they have any idea of how big Brasil is?

Are sales still poor?

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I don't know if I should be happy to see Hummingbird return, or sad that she returned in Champions.

Every one of thees characters have the same voice and that kinda negates the purpose of a of multi-ethnic/world wide cast.

>Powerman

they brought that guy back?