>makes youtube video to complain that Ben 10 got worse
>suck Alien Force's dick
>uses video to unironically shill his fanfick crossover between Ben 10 and fucking Danny Phantom
>proceeds to make a living off shilling his fanfic and shitting on ben 10
can't decide if this dude is the most dilusional motherfucker ever or an absolute genius mad man
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literally who?
Remember his tantrum at the Death Battle?
>Makes thread to complain about youtube reviewer
>watches youtube reviewers at all, despite them having the same authority judge as any faggot on Yea Forums
No matter how you slice it, You’re still the bigger faggot.
I legit believe he's the fucking user that kept posting about it on Yea Forums
honestly yes, I too wish I could make mad dollar making shitty videos and make money off my shitty fanfic.
That shit got old fast
He liked all four original series and doesn't hate the reboot. AF seasons 1-2 afaik are his favorite seasons but AF season 3 is his least favorite. His complaints about OV are all valid, especially the bit about it taking some jokes way too far or butchering some aspects of lore. I have zero interest in his comic though and I have no clue how much talking about it in Ben 10 videos helps its popularity.
If you're talking about the livestream that was a false flag. It's incredibly weird that anyone cared enough to do that.
>Introduced the best aliens
>Has the best villains
>Great story arcs
>Doesn't degrade Vilgax into getting scared off by a gag character
Fuck off Omni-faggot
>Best aliens
Not even close
user ghost freak fucked Vilgax
I can't pick a favorite series for aliens, only Omniverse and UA had a significant amount of duds for me(and to its credit OV redesigned a lot of the UA duds to be cooler). OS gets the benefit of all the iconic originals, but Alien Force doesn't really have a single bad alien.
Ma Vreedle scaring Vilgax is probably the epitome of OV's flaws(and her being immune to Toepick really cuts into his unique quality). Or the need to turn everything galactic into some silly congruency with Earth like Simian in a pink polo or whatever the fuck they did to Slix Vigma. Before that Vilgax was done pretty well, and overall his UAF take was worse.
>Goop
>Humungasaur
>Echo Echo
>Chromastone(Feed is just a rip-off of him)
>Big Chill
Yeah, Seems pretty good, What the fuck does Omniverse have?, A walking fish?
Except you know, Vilgax beat him, And Ghostfreak was actually an intimidating villain who's power wasn't "Lol she's a strong mom!, We can't actually have some one beat the crap out of her because that would be bad taste"
One simple word evildoer!
ATOMIX!
Walkatrout is cool because he's the first alien with no real value besides being slippery, and a huge amount of aliens should be about that useless in theory. For an unlocked alien with no significant power he's pretty cool.
>Best Aliens
Some were good yes, but some were really fucking boring, sorry Humugasaur, you're just a big fucking dino man.
>has the best villians
I'm sorry but most were boring af, Alberto became a running joke.
>Great story arcs
yeah like 2 great ones, most were dull af
>Doesn't degrade Vilgax into getting scared off by a gag character
but does nothing fucking good with him
Sorry Kuro get out and suck Alien X's cosmic dick on YT some more.
Alien Force Vilgax:
>Kills the Galactic Enforcers and takes over world, Along with 10 others
>Actually managed to retake the Omnitrix on two occasions
>Outsmarts Cthulu
Omniverse Vilgax:
>Scared of a frog chick and SIxsix(BTW remember that time Vilgax bitch slapped Sixsix, Scared him into submission and held him on a leash?)
>Beats Ben only with a hand me down, Then that gets reversed by potentially the weakest of the Bens, Bitchslapped by the end of the episode
Also it isn't just Vilgax, Albedo went from just a Galvan who's motivations were fairly reasonable into a straight villain who still hates Ben even though he restored his Galvan form and no longer needs anything from him, Also he was betrayed by Vilgax one time, Why did they make him dumb enough to rejoin him?
>Make Gwen ugly
DDDROPPED
Wasn't Ben depressed for some retarded reason in his comic?
"oLIeN Ex iz teH StönGEST CuraTeher EvAH, Gruun Lurntern culd nöt bet him"
It degrades Kevin and it made Vilgax and the Forever Knights into idiots
Does he really believe this?
>Degrades Kevin
Original Irredeemable dick Kevin got old in 3 episodes mate. If you want to criticise how they didn’t show any of his redemption arc until UA, that’s perfectly fair, but OS kevin was a two-trick pony, which is admittedly more than one, but still nothing worth writing home about.
Yes, he really does.
Is literally just the same gimmick as NRG, Except without you knowm Explaining why his species is so metallic and how he's allowed to be around normal people
Except you know there were plenty of normal aliens who were just Blue or super pale, They didn't do anything special
>I'm sorry but most were boring af, Alberto became a running joke.
The Highbreed, Aggregor and Albedo were all intimidating and had some form of motivation, The Highbreed were indoctrinated into a Nazi system, Aggregor had a literal addiction for power, Albedo wanted to go back to being Galvan, Yes he was a joke but that was by the end of Ultimate Alien but still was a threat, Don't forget the time he beat Ben with the Ultimatrix before taking on an army of Humungasaurs
I remember Kevin almost always jobbing and being Gwen's bitch
Feats aside, Vilgax's actual character in UAF became a weird Darkseid knockoff and I never really enjoyed it. You already covered where OV misstepped(though the Attea episode was against four of them and Vilgax was restrained for the majority and he got the last laugh in it). In the OS he was probably at his best but he still jobbed a lot. Ironically the version of Vilgax where he doesn't have as much pointless baggage is starting to look like the reboot.
I liked Albedo throughout the entire series so IDK about that, I think a lot of his hatred just naturally built up over time, and villainous double crosses followed by some degree of mending happened a decent bit.
true, though it would be cooler to have ben win with someone else instead. an upgrade finisher would've been cool.
Then how does Ben work in his comic?
wanna know the actually worst fucking part about AF and UAF?
Every single fucking time Ben Transformed he would just say the pet name he had for the Alien, even if it was the first time he did it, it was annoying and actually beyond stupid, glad Omniverse ditched it.
>Vilgax's actual character in UAF became a weird Darkseid knockoff
Darkseid is remorseless and hateful in most incarnations, If you're talking about Darkseid knock-off that's the original Vilgax, Alien Force Vilgax was more like General Zod with his "Muh people!" attitude, I do give the writer's some credit for trying to add depth, OV Vilgax was even worse, He literally saved Ben's life and tried make it seem that him and Ben are linked
>his hatred just naturally built up over time
Albedo only actually came after Ben in first episode and that was his fault, Second time it was because of Vilgax betraying him, The only time Ben actually ruined things was when messed up with the DNA altering machine and that was only because of some one else
He jobbed to Diamondhead
he doesn't.
Sure he gets knocked out and stuff, but there is no real threat to him, expecially since Kuro decided to give him "Master Control" so he just instantly transforms constantly, and during fights just get thrown far away so Danny who has some actual stakes can do something.
also he has added fucking Invader Zim into it, I shit ye not.
I don’t read the comic, but in the series force usually ends up getting matched to the opponent at hand. In bloodlusted death match hypotheticals Ben could go Way Big and blow up the Earth or go X and instantly agree to wipe the enemy from existence, but that’s not going to happen in day to day life against bank robbers. And besides Alien X, Way Big, and Atomix a lot of his strongest aliens end up being situational. Like Feedback can absorb at least a universe ending bomb, but he won’t get that kind of power against an enemy that doesn’t emit that level of power.
I’m guessing if Alien X shows up at all he’d be saving it as a deus ex. Bellicus and Serena’s turbulent attitude does a good job of preventing Alien X from doing too much if a story entails it.
I think he got full control of Alien X in OV, plus he can't die
>DUDE BEN TEN STRONGER DEN SUPERMAN, GOKU, THOR, FLASH, WONDER WOMAN AND HULK COMBINED
People like this should be kept in some sort of institution.
Yes and no. Ben got better at managing Bellicus and Serena but it’s not permanent. He basically got them to vote that he fights the GG and they get to argue. And he’d make a similar deal against the Rooters offscreen. He also asked them to help against GG again, implying lended autonomy might be weaker, but he might’ve just meant strategy advice so that’s not confirmed.
He can’t die yeah, but there are stakes revolving about stuff besides him dying and in some circumstances like the CTB the omnitrix did not instantly defend against it.
Stakes like...?
What about Toepick, Pesky dust and Whampire?
A CTB going off would be one of them. The death of a planet, person, etc. Them gathering materials for some sort of plan. Civil unrest.
I think Bellicus and Serena are too easily pushed over in Omniverse though so it kind of defeats the double-edged sword aspect of infinite power. UAF did a good job showing how annal their arguing is to the point where trying Alien X was a bigger liability. OV was too goofy for that sort of nuance, but it did help showcase a portion of what Alien X can do.
So he's basically a less pedo version of Bleedman? Good to know
They'd fall under that umbrella I threw out for aliens who are ridiculous under the right circumstances. And even then it's not like their limits have fully been tested. I'm sure we'd all assume Feedback couldn't contain an Anhilaarg until he did it.
Pesky Dust for instance can enter dreams and is basically all powerful in them, but there could very well be some limit or way to turn the tides in the same way Ben did when Enoch was invading his dreams(not with the same powers as Pesky Dust mind you). And against a powerful unrestrained foe you're probably not going to get them to sleep all that easily; even with the fairy dust I'm sure a lot of people could just tank that without effect. But could Pesky Dust best some sort of god figure in their own dream if they do something like sleep? Unconfirmed.
Whampire's hypnosis is what you're talking about I'm guessing. That's kind of on the weaker end of crazy stuff. Toepick's power is pretty potentially crazy, though Omniverse had to ruin it in the Ma Vreedle episode by making her immune, which is a gigantic antifeat for the alien. There's also the matter of "just close your eyes nigga" being a perfect counter. But yeah, he can apparently make Celestialsapien personalities scared, at which point they can't vote on anything and you could Jetray express them into Anur Vladis. But they might get so scared that they reactively agree to wipe you from all of existence immediately so they're a slightly bad example.
Some more situationally ridiculous transformations: Big Chill, Ghostfreak, Jetray, NRG, Chromastone, Echo Echo, Upgrade, Grey Matter...Clockwork. If you want to go off of what the show demonstrates alone(which really downplays what Celestialsapiens can do) then Clockwork restoring the timelines was arguably a bigger feat than Alien X's. If Maltruant wasn't so full of himself he may have very well been able to kill everyone.
You underestimate HEATfag gloating
Soul
Soulless
The death of a planet/person is not an issue when you can bring it back, undo its death, remake it, have at will time travel and is friends with paradox. civil unrest is trivial to handle. Gathering materials is a joke.
The problem with Upgrade goes for the same with Ben's other aliens when fighting Hal
He's too slow
>Whaaaaa, my silly show about a kid who turns into made up creatures should be serious all the time, I can make it better
Kuro the Autist indeed
>The Cosmos Are Mine
How are any of those situational? Especially clockwork, how many of Ben's enemies are immune to time stop?
Not him
Clockwork is risky because he's slow and fragile
>take an alien with a clear design identity and wild color scheme
>make it not block related, mute the hell out of the colorscheme and seemingly just change the powers for no reason
I get not liking an alien but holy hell this dude
I was enjoying his what ruined Ben 10 video but the shameless plug for his fanfic made me giggle
not all aliens has to be some super special super powered creature, some are just regular creatures with no super power, or you know, a joke because it's a comedy-action show.
Fair enough what about the others like Ghostfreak
I like to think Ben went by Ben 10,000 in the future and not Ben 1,000,912 because of it being easier to say and that literally only 10,000 of those aliens are viable
Animo himself said Ben had 10,000 heroes so chances are the rest are useless/undiscovered
I mean that they're extremely powerful only under specific circumstance. Alien X, Atomix, and Way Big have movesets that should just about always be relevant. Upgrade on a doomsday device would be amazing, but Upgrade on a microwave wouldn't be quite as useful.
Clockwork's powers are effective against almost every enemy he has, that's true, but the bigger issue is how much of a stamina drain he goes through. Then consider Clockwork's low physicality - he probably won't be beating anyone to submission efficiently with a time stop. An efficient Clockwork styled execution would be time stopping/slowing and then aging/de-aging them into dust, but Ben isn't the kind of person to do that to other people. And against something like the Dagon which he might try that on I'm not even sure if it would work. I don't really remember a Chronosapien vs. Chronosapien matchup too well but Maltruant seems to have them outclassed so he's probably another enemy where Clockwork generally won't be a good idea. And the Sotobro effect could cause a case of back and forth between someone like Eon who also deals with time.
God idc about Death Battle results due to the fact it's not canon and people are fallible but I wish NRG was there, he doesn't get any play
How is possession situational? Also XLR8 can pull a Quicksilver
Blame a combination of lack of sprites, Heatblast taking up priority (seriously, Ben Singer had Heatblast as a mandatory alien for the fight's animation), and limited runtime
Only the OS is good. Everything else sucks ass.
The fact that people are still sperging about the Death Battle makes me think Eyebrow Man might try and cash in on this with Ben 10 in Injustice 3 for Zoomer bucks
Alien Force aliens were either to powerful or to boring
Only good ones were Echo Echo and Goop
But they were never used
Sweet, Justice League Action crossover with Ben 10 reboot
I have Big Chill and Ghostfreak linked together because they have the same sort of clause. If someone has no answer to their intangibility they're basically unstoppable, but if they do then they're much much weaker. Ectoplasm-solidifying tech or some reality warping aside, extreme light is a relatively easy Ghostfreak counter and I forget if electricity bypasses Big Chill's intangibility but it's a weakness it has that's common as well. But against some titanic entity that's all punches and nothing else, there isn't really much to suggest Ghostfreak couldn't just possess him, whereas someone like Kraab gave him trouble because he could negate his ectoplasm.
This is like the 5th Death Battle where they pit people that would've been better friends than enemies. This is why my favorite death battles are against abhorrent people vs irredeemable jackasses
Nah Hal is a cunt who would molest Ben's cousin
NOW BEN IN JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL
Reminds me of Vanilluxe redesigns
He's got eon
Retconned
>TFW Ichigo vs Naruto actually has a pleasant comments section
>The Bleach fans took the L more gracefully despite being in a worse situation than Ben 10
Vilgax vs Ridley when?
Vilgax vs Mongul is too one sided and only fuels the sperging from Ben 10 vs Hal
Squidface actually stands a chance if he's given his UAF powers
>Nah Hal is a cunt who would molest Ben's cousin
I wanna see that happening
Hal would try and sell his toys to Ben.
That's because the overlap between Naruto and Bleach fans is huge.
Speaking of DB
Mitsuru won. It doesn't make up for the Tifa/Yang fight, but at least they managed to kill a RWBY
They next fight is Captain Falcon vs. Johnny Cage
I try to ignore these type of things.
I don't know much about weebshit, why did she win?
Next fight seems kind of blah. Like Captain Falcon doesn't have many feats outside racing and smash brothers. Just feels very...blah. Wish it was something else.
Because DB makes bank on having an air of authority in their decisions they're NEVER going to say they were wrong about anything. They're say the "rules were different" at best, so you have to look at them sacrificing one of their house waifus as a coded apology for Tifa vs Yang.
The personalities of both fighters will make up for it
As for Weiss losing, she's just outclassed
Her opponent is immune to ice and her Persona is far superior to Weiss' summons
>Putting a character that uses ice against a character immune to ice
Well that was stupid.
Is Falcon allowed to just run over Johnny in his space car?
Don't forget
>wasn't so fucking bad it got a billion dollar franchise rebooted
Also that art is shit
>Billy kills Carol
>HEAT drinks Zoomer tears
>RWBY character dies
Is this season made for Yea Forums?
Yeah I know it's kinda like not having an alien or three show up in a series not even during the final moment where they're all supposed to show up because you hate them.
>Jewish pedophile in a position of power forcibly snips off something that's attached to a little American boy with scissors over foreign laws
Truly a based and redpilled death battle, Liam "That's like saying Tupac can only be killed by drive-bys" Swan.
>this idiot and others try to pretend Bloxx is too goofy for Ben 10
>OS had Frankenstein, Mummy, Ghost, Werewolf, Battery aliens, etc.
>there is an episode where Christmas elves use the "Jinglelatorr" to turn Ben into an elf, and he has to deliver toys to lift the curse
I am beyond convinced that AF fags actually fucking hate the OS and only try to appeal to it because it's popularly regarded as the best, reinforcing their own opinion. I don't have to read that fanfic to know it's likely edgy garbage uncharacteristic of both IPs.
>the omnivirgin
>the chad reboot
to be fair we have Ancient Alien nutjobs who insist shit like Werewolves and Gryphons were actually aliens all along or at least their experiments
Based Swan is the pimp daddy boss of death battle so its hype and fee fees out, evidence and feats in.
Hal is the Space Smurf's good Earthling.
Alien Force is the most passionless, corner-cutting cartoon I've ever seen.
Voltron The Third Dimension
>Helmets covers the mouth
>Everyone has the same run cycle
>When running they face backwards so they don't have animate the mouths moving
ben 10 is dogshit and i suspect low intelligence in anyone, even children, who like it
>magic grandma did not get cut off
And OS Kevin threw away every chance at victory because he couldn't act out of his alignment of Chaotic stupid. Even Ben was calling him a moron in the one episode they were chained together.
Diamondhead is one of the better Aliens
He'd try to make toys based on Ben's aliens like that episode where that one cartoonist used them for his Super Alien Hero Buddy Adventures cartoon
It's the second time they've done a match up like that, the first I can think of was Thor vs Raiden, and since lightning doesn't work on Thor seems like a pointless match.
>Thor's blows make planets around him crack
>Let's put him against Blunder god.
Jesus Christ.
Did they miss that MK vs DC needed a giant plot device to make things balanced?
>Back then, this was a surprisingly frequent request. That might sound like a surprise, but I think it had a lot to do with how ScrewAttack was still predominantly a video gaming website first and foremost at the time. Today, our most popular Death Battles usually involve superheroes or shonen anime characters, and episodes with video game characters rarely get the same sort of recognition. But back in 2012, the opposite was actually the case.
>Outside of it being a strangely high requested fight, I’m not entirely sure why I went with this match in particular. I believe I chose this one to give myself a bit of leeway going forward. See, the next few episodes had already been planned, and several of them would be humongous undertakings, so it made sense to do something that could be researched and written in a shorter time-frame and then dedicate that newly acquired time to, say, Cloud VS Link or Batman VS Spider-Man
>But back in 2012 the opposite was actually the case
That's probably because they were seen as sprite battles first, vs battle knowledge second back then.
>so you have to look at them sacrificing one of their house waifus as a coded apology for Tifa vs Yang.
I guess I can accept that
Kys benfag
SEETHING
I’d just make Bloxx a refined version of the species and the rest look more like organic multi-colored rock because their DNA isn’t as prime.
It’s still not as bad as what OV did to Big Chill.
To be fair designs cost money and the only aliens the series ended up missing were what, Jetray, Fasttrack, and Spitter(they said Ben unlocked it or something)? That’s much less than UAF missed with less aliens to use again.
Fasttrack should get retconned into velocity control.
Also Chamalien, Arcticguana, Buzzshock, Snare Oh, Frankenstrike
>Is literally just the same gimmick as NRG, Except without you knowm Explaining why his species is so metallic and how he's allowed to be around normal people
This. I don't understand how Atomix gets ranked above RNG either, Atomix has lost before, while I'm pretty sure omniverse RNG became invincible after they removed his weakness of being tied to his suit.
>>Beats Ben only with a hand me down, Then that gets reversed by potentially the weakest of the Bens, Bitchslapped by the end of the episode
What even was his goal? Even if Ben dies, so does the rest of reality.
He equipped himself to specifically counter the alien force 10, so it makes sense that he lost to an alien that he wasn't prepared for.
>he can't die
Wait what, since when?! So that means the shit where Hal cuts off his arm wouldn't have worked??? I want my fucking rematch now!
>>this idiot and others try to pretend Bloxx is too goofy for Ben 10
>>OS had Frankenstein, Mummy, Ghost, Werewolf, Battery aliens, etc.
The problem with OS is you could actually imagine those aliens existing as a civilization on a legitimate planet. Yet with Bloxx we're supposed to believe that there's a fucking Lego world, where everything is awesome and is full of these plastic apes?
I remember being assmad about it, since they blatantly ignored Dangai ichigo feats, but Bleach isn't really a series worth defending anymore, considering how little the author himself cared about it.
Bloxx literally looks like he was designed to see toys,How on Earth can an organic being be made of plastic?, The monster themed aliens are atleast plausible
Right about Chamalien, wrong about the others. They all featured prominently and he unlocked Buzzshock in OV.
It's not that he can never die. It's just that a situation where Ben would actually die won't really tend to come up against common enemies. A bunch of Bens were wiped by a Chronosapien Time Bomb, even if it ended up being undone. There's also a lot of plot device Omnitrix malfunctions or something that could lead to a death. It's just that the Omnitrix is confirmed to at least be able to tank a universal explosion.
I think DB chose their conclusion and it's not going to change. Their logic will generally be that Ben is only as strong as showcased feats, so Alien X is only strong enough to recreate a broken universe and allegedly couldn't stop an Anihilaarg on his own which Feedback casually absorbed. But Hal got his absorbed ring energy back from low tiers so therefore he'll be able to siphon his energy back from Chromastone or Feedback. So for the Omnitrix failsafe they'll assume that its death prevention only goes as far as showcased(in the Q&A follow up they admit that they don't if know if it would allow scissorsgate to happen) and that Hal can punch with infinity+ power at speeds the Omnitrix couldn't comprehend. And all of that could end up being the case anyways, so a lot of Death Battles premise is dumb anyways.
I mean the rest didn't show up in the final scene
Oh okay, that guy was talking about the series in general. Would've been cool to have the unused aliens pop up there but that would require budgeting they didn't feel like using.
Have you checked on your wife Kuro...
>tuber drama
Bloxx's race apparently evolved to be like that so when invaders show up they'll just see grim abandoned castles that were really them hiding in plain sight
Should have made them more castle like in appearance and be like the Modular People
Someone tried to rationalize Bloxx's anatomy
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>Atomix and NRG
>Feedback and Chromastone
>Astrodactyl and Jetray
What is it with Omniverse and recycling aliens?
Why are you surprised? The whole series is recycled comic book ideas.