How fast could he beat the DC universe

Can't, Hal would just spank him and send him home without supper again.

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>endless threads about Ben vs. Hal/DC

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>letting Hal near children
you know, there should be laws against it...wait, there's laws!

>Not knowing that the Green Lantern Corp are the Law

Zatanna can literally say "drib a otni nrut ,neb" And ben would be instantly converted into an ordinary bird. the omnitrix can't protect him against that.

He stills loses to a GL but this times it’s the 11 year old that will hack the Omnitrix like she hacked the Green Power Battery.

laws made by a bunch of old guys that look like they hunger for fresh foreskins

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what 11 year old?

Bendis character in Young Justice comic he’s doibg

>Manhattan couldn't understand the ring
>This OC just figures out how to hack a power battery without the GLC knowing
This is so fucking retarded
Where are the damn editors

>1 sec
That's slow as fuck compared to the League's best speed feats

Manhattan is autism incarnate
He doesnt understand the power of emitions

It's actually part of his strategy.

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I don't care what kind of power you've got

That version of Ben? He got his ass kicked with time stop and electromagnetic radiation

>emitions
>man-hat over blue cock causes global warming.

>11/10 plot
> saged because obvious /s

AHAHAHAHA, sure it is champ. I think we're done here, if you want to continue feel free but no one who is sane will agree with you despite your best efforts.

Should be its own series

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Something something Flash attosecond
Something something Green Lantern probes
Something something speed force

Based

No , he is just too slow , if he could do something , It would look like a reebot nothing more

>t. insane

Depends on how it's written and who's writing it.

than does that makes her the most powerful character in the DC universe? do the victims retain their intelligence and powers when they are birds?

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It depends, do you want it the enjoyable and engaging way or do you just want to stack all the feats together and compare them in a giant wank contest?

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Batman steals the omnitrix from him and uses it to take over the universe as a totalitarian dictator believing it's the best way to save lives.

I liked him when he came out but in retrospect he was kind of redundant when there are other wrestler type bipedal aliens.

>killed Ben's grandpa

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IT WAS ME BEN

>Lucifer Morningstar: “Hmm. That’s new”
>Retconn: “Shit, we’re about to be sued for copyright! Abort, abort!”
>Prayala: “Hey, stop stealing my job!”

This. But Plastic can't really take out Ben either, so he's just sort of there.

I KILLED YOUR GRANDPA

Shit even Batman Who Laughs probably can’t because Plastic Man is a conduit for the happy metal energy because I guess plastics are kind of metals in DC

>still butthurt

Couldn't beat ONE member, it is known.

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That version can't use alien X, so he wouldn't have any chance.
Not that Alien X would be enough.

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Far enough to be a villain of the week for the League. They tend to get their power levels scaled way down in team books to keep things interesting, so he'd put up a decent fight.
I think the adaptive reaction transformations would keep him alive to knock out several members, and if they wanted they could make him a big enough threat they'd have to bring in whoever is a white lantern at the time to remove all the other lifeforms from the Omnitrix so he'd be stuck as Ben and they can undo whatever was making him evil.
Then he could join the League to make up for his actions, and with all the aliens drained from the watch he could have his own solo book about him collecting DNA from different DC aliens as the series went on. That could be fun.

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He can't. Hal Jordan would just will himself back to when Ben was 10 and crush him with a giant green boot.

DB Hal couldn't beat DB half-composite kid ben without resorting to time travel and killing an unsuspecting ben.

Enough

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>omnitrix absorbs kryptonian dna
well

Manta kills him in seconds to prevent anyone from ending Aquaman but him.

>One kryptonian
Oh no.

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Ben 10000 doesnt get the Alien X pass and I dont know if the fusion autism has failswitches built into it
I doubt Atomix-X or any alien fused with celestial bodyparts are that strong to the point of godhood

Are Benfags really this autistic?

Apparently. You'd think they'd never seen a reality warper before.

He couldn't even beat Hal Jordan, the jokey big hero. He would get dusted the moment he started shit.

Iceman. Anyone dealing with Ice/Freezing could do it.

once he was blown up to pieces in a celular level and he survived

>goes inside ben asshole
>expands
>ben is dead

He didn't say kill just defeat, freezing him solid would do it.

far enough in that case

They only did that ending because they thought people were getting tired of big explosions in the end
They wanted to try more creative finishers and said its viable for Hal to just blow up Alien X Krona styled

>stomped

ben transforms into "the worst"
does nothing
waits for everyone to die of old age

Considering Plastic Man exists
Good luck with that
Also The Worst has only displayed tolerance to physical pain
Nothing chemical, mental, or soul related

Reminder that DB is biased and there are at least ten different reasons why Ben would've won and ten thousand falsehoods and inconsistencies in the fight itself

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>that version can't use alien X

What the blue hell are you talking about?

This is sad.

>complains of time travel
>when Faglien X did it first
That shits fair game nigga, stop being a lil bitch

How am I wrong?

Just accept Ben got stomped and move on

Benfags are truly the new Gokufags

This.

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Alien X
Alien X look at me

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What the hell is happening in DC

It's just Clark prepping for punching Manhattan out of existance.

"Ben would just use OLIEN EX TO WUN TEH FIGUT"
- Kuro the Artist

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I feel like he's over levelling for the guy who couldn't stop a nuclear winter if he tried

Dude managed to trash the league and figure out magic, but not the emotional spectrum

Deathstroke could do it. What's the Forger's deal?

You do realize there would be people who shipped KenxDevlin, don't you?

>Deathstroke could do it
but that was retarded so we pretend it didn't happen
>What's the Forger's deal?
Anti-monitor's older brother, responsible for hammering new universes into existence.

Why are the JL fighting him, and where was he during COIE?

Doomsday Clock Manhattan had an ENORMOUS power boost due to travelling to DC where the physics rules are much more fluid. Dude can now time travel and control magic. He made Mr. Mxy afraid of him.

He's El Hermano De Anti-Monitor

>He made Mr. Mxy afraid of him.
So does that put him on Lucifer or the Endless's level?

Clark was always strong as fuck. He's been roughly silver age FUCK YOU level since Joe Casey with a slight dip when he was Super Bro.

Kuro is what happens when you know all the Ben 10 episodes by heart but only know the DC characters through the cartoons and movies.

>Why are they fighting him?
Perpetua has woken up and is slowly gathering power. Forger thinks the only way to stop her is to turn all the universes into police-state universes, and so brings the JL to a model-universe he's going to use his anvil to copy+paste over all the other universes. He wants to give the JL the chance to surrender and join him since they were bros and helped him out against Barbatos back in metal. He shoves Superman into a dimension without sunlight to keep him out of the way, but Superman in DKR zombie mode flies through the darkness until he reaches stars then flies to Earth-Forger and one-punches Forger and his anvil.

During COIE he was hammering out universes in the dark multiverse where the forge is kept (why the fuck you wouldn't put it in the light multiverse idk, I'm not a Monitor).

Yes. Dude was legit messing around in hypertime traveling back to when the "main earth" now known as the metaverse was Pre-Crisis Earth-2.

Damn Superman

Zatanna is actually one of the most powerful magic users in DC. Only thing limiting her is the fact that she decides to focus her magic via spelling things backwards.

Even he messed up
He tried using the whole "Ben can just clone himself and then assume different aliens" argument even though the show itself depicted such strategy as inefficient

In space, the Green Lanterns make the laws. Just ask Arisia.

Friendly reminder that the animation is just window dressing and has no bearing on the outcome.

Nah, there's no scenario where Ben could have taken a win. muh Alien X can't compete with a world where the dials go up to 11.

He's be dead cause every character has time traveled at one point

Alien X COULD win. It's just not likely against a bloodlusted Hal gong full BEWARE MY POWER out of the gate.

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Took me a second to remember where that 3rd one was from.

Fpbp

Nevermind, I guess he showed up again in Omniverse.
But if those Bens can use Alien X, why didn't they just stop the Time War immediately?

Do you use a nuke to stop a barbarian tribe?
Alien X should be the last effort, not the starting play

Ben 10,000's whole thing was that he would use the most efficient alien for the job, even if it was excessive force.

then he would use Alien X every time, it can rewrite reality on a whim

I never understand why Rainbow Dash is there since she won her DB

Wow. Benfags really are pathetic. What, being closet pedos wasn't enough for you?

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Exactly, so why doesn't he?

Ben 10 pedos were never closeted.

She stands in for Purple Smart but no one gives enough of a fuck about ponies to depict the right one.

Oh how you've grown. Let's see how long you last this time.

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Why are non-profited web-series even taken this seriously by anyone in the first place?

I think a rematch would be between Ben 10,000 and Parallax Hal. Imagine the amount of assblastedness if it goes 2-0.

>Alien x
>a threat for DC
AHAHAHHAHAHA

Forget Hal or Clark, he has much worse problems.

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It's less the show itself, and more that fans of the winning side use it as a reason to "haHA!" at the losing side, and thus fans of the losing side REEEE in response.

Because they have a good research team that exposes vs battle wiki autists for the frauds they are.

They really don't. They make istakes all the time, and it just leads to the spread of misinformation.
I'm still annoyed they tried to tell everyone that Logia devil fruit users have to actively turn themselves into their element.

>hal beats embodiment of willpower.

It's still doesn't makes any sense.

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He’s just got that much willpower

He didn’t say you were wrong he said you were sad

This shit is still going? Unbelievable.

Either hal Jordan is some weird interdimensional alien or DC writers are idiots.

A lot is going on with the DC universe that you have to consider. For instance, there is a parliament of sentient stories that oversee everything that happens in DC and manipulate the causality of fictional events to make them more interesting.

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this is the lamest shit ever. nu-new-52 can't come quick enough

He does that on a daily basis. In fact he's even more powerful than ever. He got the Alan Scott treatment (no he's not gay... yet) in that he willed himself a new body and made his own ring out of that willpower. He is currently the most powerful GL at his very base in that Kyle got a power boost by swapping his ring for Hal's. Hal also outran Lightray at his fastest, pushing his the limitations of his ring to do so. He even had a nice chat with his father's spirit.

Meta-narrative based factors have always been a thing within the DC universe since it is, canonically within it's own lore, fictional.

Bruh what the fuck is this shit this

Silver Age nonsense, the best kind

Now you know why Hal was an idiot that was weak to yellow. It's the only way to keep him from destroying the universe.

Well, first he didn't outran lightray.

Caught up to? Such a pointless distinction given what we're comparing it to.

Lightray was traveling at top speed and Hal caught up to him.

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Lightray was actually exhausted from going at top speed non-stop. He was slowing down by the time Hal showed up. Still an impressive feat from Hal since he nearly entered the Speedforce.

Back in the silver age it was revealed that Hal was a sort of experiment the Guardians did where they outright removed his ability to feel fear to see how powerful a lantern they could make.

You can see the result.

Sauce?

Mitch, is that you?

>Implying the parliament of stories isn't cool
Kill yourself

That shit doesn't make sense because the embodiment of willpower should be by definition got hal Jordan willpower+

Humans are destined to become the 5th world, you see a little of this in DC 1 million where everyone is superhuman and can pick whatever superpower they want.

Hal is the human with the strongest willpower.

He is THE willpower. God herself picked him to shackle her wrath to. He controls Ion better than the Guardians.

His superpower is ENGHHHH BEWARE MY POWER.

Hal with Ion was able to remake the universe as Parallax Hal. His will goes beyond the constraints of the universe.

You're trying to quantify willpower. That's stupid. That's like trying to quantify magic or stories.

We left numbers behind a longgggg time ago in DC. There's only one number that matters and you know what it is.

>Green Will is just the sum of all will in the universe
>Hal, with the central battery, destroyed the universe and remade it
How are you this stupid user?

It's WILLPOWER. It's the remover of obstacles and destroyer of barriers. It's Vishnu and Janus. It's spiral power. It's not a fucking number.

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>(no he's not gay... yet)
all of his interactions with sinestro during johns run were dripping sexual tension.

>You're trying to quantify willpower. That's stupid. That's like trying to quantify magic or stories

Then DC stop using words that they can't understand. Maybe they should call it willpower titan or something.

>spiral power

Even spiral power make more sense than willpower. At least Simon isn't destroying spiral enegry itself.

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Also it’s pretty obvious he and Constantine have fucked in the past.

It's been like two weeks why are Benfags still seething?

He wouldn't, they would be bros
youtube.com/watch?v=rGu0p0Mw7QE

Their boy got FRAUD DETECTED by someone they considered weaker than Goku.

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True, Ben would be fucking stoked to fight alongside the Justice League.

...and?

The real issue here is that DCfags have no sense of scale. Each of the writers tries to one-up the one before until Hal is an unstoppable god. Then they reboot the universe and continue the exact same pattern and wind up with the exact same problem. At least Superman has issues with treating everything like a nail and Batman has to be screwed up and sometimes fail to function. There's no INFANITE WILLPOWAH bullshit.

Ben? He's lazy, egotistical, overconfident, and lacks a lot of common useful knowledge and possesses almost no sense. But he means well. He wants to be a hero and help people. He helps people even when he doesn't have any powers. He knows his role in the universe as the wielder of the Omnitrix, and he's going along for the ride. Considering how closely he's tied to it, he practically knows the thing better than Azmuth.

Superman is an alien, Just scan him and turn into a Kryptonian. Or just scan Martian manhunter and turn into him

>Omnitrix collects samples/scans of all new species it finds
>superman is an alien
>so is darkseid, martian, etc
>omnitrix always turns you into the most powerful version of the alien you turn into
>with master control unlocked you can switch indefinitely and at will, without even using voice or your hands
The true question is how long it takes for the omni to get kryptonians in it's database, after that it's gg.

Adult Ben with all aliens. And Grandpa maxes gear, the sorcery book and his own gadgets and he's got intermensional travel and time travel. Given his lack of seriousness about a day.

I thought he got upgarded versions of excelerate and so forth.

He has picture. OP brought a picture. This is the smartest man alive in the universe Ben. Infinite owns the fucking universe and crowned and worshipped Ben. Not just universal but Interdeminsional traveling time rifts and deminsions Ben. Not to mention with the seer of all group of assistants in the background montioring the universe.

This is just sad

>Faggot before death battle
>"My character is going to RAPE the DC character TO DEATH its not even a challenge they could just flex their finger and boom, DC character is dead.

>Faggot after death battle
>What the fuck DC characters are so busted how do they face any challenges the writers are hacks they have no sense of scale this is totally unfair

Every
Single
Time

Eh, not user but my personal problem is how some writers just don't understand the implications of the stuff they write half the time
>Hey how fast is an attosecond?
>A star blowing up in your face is like a firecracker right?
>I need to write this scene where Batman just casually no sells a speeding car crash, 3 broken ribs is something you can walk out of right?

Not with Batmans body. Though batman keeps injections of meds on him. Does or is there not a loop hole picture of time to make up for this.

>Thinking they aren't dead serious when they tell you Superman can lift infinity
How many times does he have to do it before you listen?

No retard. When they say Green Lantern can contain a big bang its because HE DID IT.

What's funny is that most other matchups with Ben would've been the other way around purely because of Alien X. I'm pretty sure Hal wouldn't have been an option otherwise.

They're just jealous that they were proven wrong on such a public platform.

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This. Hal was one of few characters with counters to X's bullshit and the firepower neccessary to put him down.

>complains about overusing a feat while using a one-liner as a feat

>Alien X did it first
So he would prevent Hal from being born before Hal prevents him from being born