Why did Lobdell ship Jason with Isabel after pic related and how do we retcon it?
Why did Lobdell ship Jason with Isabel after pic related and how do we retcon it?
The new Red Hood book was envisioned by Geoff Johns during Rebirth. He pretty much forced Lobdell to ignore the New 52 origin he gave Jason and bring back the post-Crisis one, because Johns like that one better. And told Lobdell to use Bizarro and Artemis.
Well, Johns doesn't run shit anymore. So Lobdell now doesn't have to write Bizarro or Artemis. Or keep ignoring his New 52 run. So now Lobdell is bring all the things he set up before back and completely ignoring Bizarro and Artemis.
You retarded shippers are the reason Lobdell tossed Artemis into another dimension. Kill yourself.
Its been a while since I've seen such contempt towards another writer and fans.
Shipping aside, The Dark Trinity was fucking great and they threw it all away over petty shit
At least they're returning for the annual
There were indeed great, but y'all just refused to keep it in your fuckin pants. Because characters can't just hang out, it MUST be because they want to fuck.
And then, the same shippers who force their fantasies down everyone's throats whine about gay characters hooking up, using the exact same argument I just used above, not quite realizing the irony.
Shippers are awful, and you can all go straight to hell.
Hey I didn't care one way or the other if Artemis banged Jason. I just miss the family dynamic they had going. Although I can kind of see the funny appeal to the pairing since Batman/Wonder Woman is never going to happen (because its shit) and it's kind of a reflection of that. But regardless it didn't make or break the book. I was more invested in seeing who else would join the team. Creeper? Wally West? Never going to happen now
>because its shit
It IS THE SAME FUCKING DYNAMIC, you daft cunt. Nobody is fucking judging you for you to pull this mea culpa shit.
>Shippers are awful, and you can all go straight to hell.
Who hurt you, user?
Is it? Because I wouldn't equate Jason to Bruce and Artemis to Diana. But yes I agree, I'm kind of sick of seeing characters paired up just because they work together. No one can just be friends anymore. Special example that comes to mind are all those faggots who want Jessica Cruz to end up with Simon Baz
Jason and Artemis work together not only because they have chemistry but also because they had no real love life before they met.
Now back to what matters: how do we retcon Isabel?
Because Sexual Harassment Lobdell is a shitty writer.
They might be different somewhat, but the dynamic is the same. The powerful and bold warrior girl who's honest to a fault, the capable and brooding vigilante who hides his feelings. The initial clash of world-views that later turn to full camaraderie and even something more.
I'm tired of people seeing people going "I like Jason and Artemis together, but hate Batman and Wonder Woman as couple!", or "I like Bat-Man of China and Wonder Woman of China together, but hate Batman and Wonder Woman as couple!", as if someone could come and call them a faggot for liking the Wonderbat dynamic or something.
>they had no real love life before they met
Isabel begs to differ.
Shippers and Lobdell. I fucking love Artemis, she's my favorite WW character second only to Diana herself. It's bad enough that Diana's supporting cast gets heavily neglected because DC is full of retards, but once the Nu52 rolled around, most of them just straight up stopped existing. But then Rebirth happened, and Artemis returned in what was, at the time, a solid book.
I had my bad girl back, but now thanks to a combination of shipping bullshit, and Lobdell being a petty assclown, she's gone, again. At least until the annual, after which the incompetent shitstains at DC will resume forgetting she exists. Fuck DC, fuck Lobdell, fuck shippers, and fuck you.
Jason and Artemis aren't bidimensional characters, user. And they had no one before they met and also they have a strong personality.
Now answer: who hurt you?
Speaking of Isabel
Yes but there are no romantic relationships in the DC right now other than Clark/Lois Ivy/Harley.
Let Jason and Artemis get it on.
That didn't go well at all, that's my point.
That's why you're mad, your waifu met someone cool?
That’s baby Jason and the last issue of Pete Woods garbage art.
Christ what is going on with that neck?
I've nothing against Jason or Artemis, or the Dark Trinity, or Lobdell, or the current run. I just find stupid this thing people do when they like a variation of Wonderbat ship, but feel obligated to point to everyone that they dislike the default Wonderbat ship for some reason. As if it was a taboo thing. Nobody cares what you ship, man. You can be honest and have your fun.
In which Sexual Harassment Lobdell writes the same fucking panels in every comic over and over again and that why nothing has happened in this comic for 10 goddamn years!!!!!
Lolwut
I ship Jason with Artemis because he had no real love.
God I hope Jason is Leviathan.
I thought it was because of the fun dynamic?
Both. But mostly because I like them togheter. Every character can have fun dynamic if well written. Except the real trinity because they lack personality.
I'm mad because my waifu got tossed in the fucking trash because the creeper hack who was writing her didn't like the pairing. It's just such a completely stupid situation, I can't help but be fucking pissed off. Fucks sake.
Jason kissing her when she showed up was so ooc, he obviously liked Artemis.
But you were okay with Jason being her boyfriend.
>Except the real trinity because they lack personality
I so want to slap you up your head.
Sorry, but Bats, Supes and Wondy are lacking personality wise.
Meet your new outlaws
I'm gonna tell you all a secret, Doomed is there
No, they aren't. I agree that the trinity itself suffer some problems, but Superman and Batman, and Wonder Woman and Batman dynamics are great.
No, I really don't like them being a couple at all. That is a completely separate issue.
>says someone who has never read any of their books
Being a shit talking casual needs to be a bannable offense.
>Being a shit talking casual needs to be a bannable offense.
That stop talking shit. Their personality is cheap as fuck. And I read more than enough of their comics.
Because he needs to pair him with a normal person to show how much fucked up he's at the moment. Isabel is a literal tool to the plot. But she's nice, so I'm Ok with it.
i dont know who the fuck those are
Because only Diana can satisfy her needs
>first bash the based original Wonderbat ship
>now bash the based original trinity dynamic
The lot of you.
If you actually read their books, you'd wouldn't be saying this. Stop fuckin lying, and get out.
Imagine pulling that ponytail
If you had any sense of writing and lived outside of capeshit sometimes you'd know I'm right.
Editorial wanted Jason alone for a while, for clear purposes for the whole batfamily line of books. If you people cant get it, you should pay more attention to the bigger scheme of things. This would've ended before id Doomsday Clock had ended already. But we cannot have nice things anymore.
You again. Man, can you get a life, user?
I hope not. Fuck Bendis.
He also knows Artemis is gone. He looked for them with the machine in the ship, in the Annual #2, and got pretty damn heartbroken because he couldn't place them in the multiverse. And in case you didn't notice,. Jason is right know in a maniac period, the idiot. So he's taking ricks up to eleven, including love ones. Isabel is even a safe place, because she knows the shit she have to deal with him, to some extent, and she's adventurous, but not crazy.
>greater sense of writing
Fuck does that even mean? Each of the Trinity has a consistent set of personality traits. Maybe try reading said material, then stop being such a pretentious twat.
They will last an arc, probably.
Maybe they bring something nice. Imagine if he were to be the Hawkeye to the DC Thunderbirds.
>Well, Johns doesn't run shit anymore.
How did this happen?
Seemed like DC was improving under the Rebirth restructuring. What made them decide to go back to how they were doing things before?
It will only last 3 issues because nothing(other than Pete Woods dogshit costume design) last longer than 3 issues
She needs to die by the Jokers hand
I hope so.
It’d be nice to actually have some fucking plot development rather than the stagnant cow shit of the past 10 years
>consistent set of personality traits
Cheap.
You don't know shit about writing so try reading something else. Not just trinity superhero stuff. Like it or not, I'm reading the trinity stuff so learn to cope.
Didiot diddling and retarded execs buying his bullshit because muh nu52 sales figures, even though Rebirth hadn't even fully taken off yet
Who is doomed and who are those fags?
Ha ha. Development, in an event. By Bendis. What a joke.
Jason has had a pretty damn good arc with ups and downs since Lobdell took on him years ago. Your best chance to get development with a character, actually, would be if you had a dedicated writer for a period of years, writing a certain character, and following in their stories. With luck, the writers will keep some personal continuity, despite all the universe big changes etc, and it will stuck to the wall, and to the fans, and to the following writers to follow on it and respect it.
>cheap
Again, the fuck does that actually mean? Aside from "I don't like these characters, so I'm going to pretend like there's some objective measure of quality in play that I'm not actually going to elaborate on.", of course. Fuck off.
>I'm reading the trinity stuff
You are so full of shit, your sclera is turning brown. Again, fuck right off.
Cheap means that they don't have much personality. Their "values" prevent them from acting like people and lack empathy.
>hurr durr you disagree with me so you must not read what you're criticizing
You're a pathetic idiot. Learn to cope, retard
Tldr: you're an idiot with shit taste
Except Lobdell does everything every 3 issues and then just recycles the same shit from his run over and over and over again.
Preventing any development.
Nope.
I drove Pete Woods off the book and got DC’s twitter account to stop promoting it.
Up next Lobdell himself.
Can Diana rescue Artemis and bring her back to main universe. I don't even care if she get's back together with Jason, she can go back to Themyscira, just get her back in the main universe.
>How did this happen?
He was promoted to President of DC |Entertainment and was CCO (Chief Creative Officer) of DC Comics around the time that Rebirth started.
Then the Justice League movie came out, bombed, and he was fired. Lee was given his CCO title, and that was mid 2018.
Johns now runs a production house (which produces Titans), and writes Shazam!
>It's bad enough that Diana's supporting cast gets heavily neglected because DC is full of retards, but once the Nu52 rolled around, most of them just straight up stopped existing.
What was really grating is that for some damn reason in the nu52 they tried to rename/replace Artemis with "Aleka". And tried to do the same to Phillipus with "Dessa". Azarello was such a hack.
Wonder Woman current setting is beyond fucked.
She's completely cut off from Paradise Island and the rest of the amazons because of Greg Rucka.
Steve Trevor and Etta Candy now are discount Rick Flag and Amanda Waller because of Geoff Johns.
We've the return of the Zeus bullshit origin with the added twin brother stupidity because of Dan Didio and James Robinson.
Wonder Woman's not even a emissary or diplomat anymore, but rather a general soldier for not-SHIELD (ARGUS) because of Geoff Johns, Brian Azzarello, Greg Rucka, and James Robinson.
Cassie Sandsmark is still stuck in the retarded New 52 trench where she's Zeus' grand-daughter because of Scott Lobdell.
Donna Troy is still stuck in the retarded New 52 trench where she's an evil clone of Hippolyta created to murder Wonder Woman because of the Finches.
The only good spot is Artemis, who was recreated by Geoff Johns and Scott Lobdell, but now even she was sent off to limbo.
>Their "values" prevent them from acting like people and lack empathy.
It's almost fascinating just how much bollocks you're capable of spewing. Almost. Really, I'd much prefer you fuck off.
>the best Artemis has been written in a year was by Orlando
I really liked those Orlando's issues. I'm currently enjoying the G. Wilson's run, but her attempts to make not-Rick Flag work just fall flat. She should keep focusing on the Greek deities shenanigans. God, i hate New 52 Steve and Etta.
>wanting more muh greek myth
It has been her forté.
Please seek help
Jason is a slut too
done
You forgot to say fuck Niggers
>It's almost fascinating just how much bollocks you're capable of spewing. Almost. Really, I'd much prefer you fuck off.
Man, this claim and the picture you posted sure prove that you have a high IQ and comprehension isn't something you lack.
Congrats.
I miss Jason's old Red Hood helmet
the power rangers one with the lips?
>The new Red Hood book was envisioned by Geoff Johns during Rebirth
Citation needed.
Jason should fuck his cousin/possible sister.
fuck Geoff Johns' retarded ass fans who perpetuate bullshit like this
New 52 Red Hood was more fun anyways
Geoff Johns fucked dozens of underage girls on a casting couch to play his dead sister
>liking Orlando's issues, enjoying G. Wilson's run
you just have shit taste
Nice headcanon, schizo
Based and redpilled
I miss the white stripe
Nope.
Already working on DCs pr guy drinkpinkink