So Tatsuya himself has reach 100% self hating

Because he doesn't ever actually turn into a woman. He's still a man, just one with a mutilated penis. But the Left are still going to give him power because he's "so brave and so enlightened" while ignoring anything legit female opinions.

Which is somewhere between completely batshit and kind of true, but that's basically the idea of the complaint.

From what I understand, there's patriarchy in one way or another in the left and right. The right side seems obvious because how they think has been repeated many times by the mesia, but I think the left seems to have the patriarchy telling women to dress as minimally as possible, that women has little to no value that men resort to sex bots, and that the strict definition of being a woman has made a lot of women identify as a new gender or no gender.

Wait, doesn't Tatsuya exert some kind of power over the sphere of influence of women by making this comic? Isn't that patriarchal? Wouldn't his belief that his comic is relevant to the cause of feminism a male fantasy, in that women could use his help?

>everything is a male fantasy
Spoken like a true retarded feminist
I'm so glad he went full TERF and committed career suicide

But there is no society that women don't have power, or the opportunity to get power.

Well, civilized society

No, I think Tats is entirely operating from the scope of a self-hating man who wants other men to hate themselves. It's not patriarchal; it's just pathetic.

>that women has little to no value that men resort to sex bots

I'm all up for guys having sex bots as long as girls can get sex bots too.

>Patriarchy just means "a society where men have power and women don't." It's not that fucking complicated.
Exclusively African and Muslim societies you mean?

I would hate myself, too, if I was him, the miserable little gobshite.

>What does patriarchy mean

A power structure based on males, which excludes females, robbing them of agency.

It does, just not to the extent radicals claim, but that is true of virtually anything.

Don't tell us that, tell Ishida.
While women still are underrepresented in the Western power structure, it's of course nothing compared to the rest of the world.

Not exclusively. Some Asian countries are almost completely patriarchal. And while by no means completely, most Latino cultures are plenty male-dominant. It's the ley of the land. It's been like this since ancient times. Did you really think everyone would get on board so quick just because you tried to guilt them into it?

Let's be honest, even America is a little patriarchal. Do you really think harping on that is going to help us go forward? You think that's how it works?

>Don't tell us that, tell Ishida.

Has anyone ever? I'm really curious what his excuse is.

I don't read the comic but I was looking for some strip because of reasons the other day, and saw a bunch of strips where Slick and the pig looked lonely, depressed, and like they wanted some kind of change.
Has anyone kept reading the comic enough to tell why Squigley got rid of his porn? I thought he's absolutely shameless, whereas Slick has made some efforts to change because he'd like to reconcile with Monique.

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>It does, just in non-white countries
>While women still are underrepresented in the Western power structure
You're fucking retarded - women are the most privileged class in the West.
Women get to walk free after fucking children. They're truly the Muslim men of our Western world.

He came across the prostitute who escaped the pimp. It was the same prostitute on the cover of his porn stash.

>Some Asian countries are almost completely patriarchal
You mean the Muslim ones?
>And while by no means completely, most Latino cultures are plenty male-dominant.
You mean latinos are chads
>Did you really think everyone would get on board so quick just because you tried to guilt them into it?
I use violence, not guilt, to get what I want. Guilt is a tool of women.

>Let's be honest, even America is a little patriarchal.
Nah, you've used "patriarchy" so much it means nothing.
>Do you really think harping on that is going to help us go forward? You think that's how it works?
Do you? That's all SJWs do - annoy people with nonsense.

> women are the most privileged class in the West.

Yeah in Canada

>ooh, look, red dot, CHASE
>ooh, look, different red dot, CHASE
Chase on, whiskers. You do you.

>A power structure based on males, which excludes females, robbing them of agency.
Damn, i couldnt think of a power structure that does that

I'm sorry, which country's failed president blamed her loss on penises?

>You win "Virtue itself"
Its ironic, most of his comics are virtue signalling

No really it is Canada.

>No 3. Canada: score (out of 100): 96.6Justice: 100.0Health: 92.7Education: 92.0Economics: 91.0Politics: 66.9
>No 8: United States of America: score (out of 100): 89.8Justice: 82.9Health: 92.8Education: 97.3Economics: 83.9Politics: 68.6

The worst for women is ironically a place called Chad.

Number one is of course Iceland.

Damn, it seems like the more white some place is the more safe and nice it is to live

>Canada
>White

Maryland is more white than Canada.

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Thanks for the explanation.
Do you think things could still be leading towards Monique and Slick restoring friendly relations some day, or do they see things too differently for that to be possible? I've been reading fragmented strips here and there when people post them on Yea Forums, so I don't have a full picture of everything. But I thought it was interesting those strips showed Slick and Squigley in fairly sympathetic light.

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What a shame too. Canada's a beautiful place, and foreigners are just going to ruin it

Is the ruling class of the USA not primarily, indeed overwhelmingly, made up out of males?

>There have been 56 total women in the United States Senate since its establishment in 1789. The first woman who served as a U.S. Senator, Rebecca Latimer Felton, represented Georgia for a single day in 1922. The first woman elected to the Senate was Hattie Caraway from Arkansas in 1932. Seventeen of the women who have served were appointed; seven of those were appointed to succeed their deceased husbands. The 116th Congress has 25 female senators, meaning for the first time in history, one-fourth of the members of the U.S. Senate are female.

>Women have served in the United States House of Representatives since the 1917 entrance of Jeannette Rankin from Montana, a member of the Republican Party. Over 300 (327) women have since served as U.S. Representatives. As of January 2019, there are 102 women in the U.S. House of Representatives (not counting four female territorial delegates), making women 23.4% of the total of U.S. Representatives.

>Of the 114 justices, 110 (96.5%) have been men. All Supreme Court justices were males until 1981, when Ronald Reagan fulfilled his 1980 campaign promise to place a woman on the Court, which he did with the appointment of Sandra Day O'Connor. O'Connor was later joined on the Court by Ruth Bader Ginsburg, appointed by Bill Clinton in 1993. After O'Connor retired in 2006, Ginsburg would be joined by Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, who were successfully appointed to the Court in 2009 and 2010, respectively, by Barack Obama. The only other woman to be nominated to the Court was Harriet Miers, whose nomination to succeed O'Connor by George W. Bush was withdrawn under fire.

>Nancy Pelosi is the only female to have served as speaker, and also the highest-ranking elected woman in American political history.

There has never been a female president OR vice-president

Um... yeah. So this is without question patriarchal.

So he lost his mind?

Females have had the opportunity to run
Females have equal opportunity to lose
Brainwashing the public into mindlessly preferring females so they get equal outcome is oppressive.
You're kidding yourself if you think there's a patriarchy

It's virtually all of them.

>The worst for women is ironically a place called Chad.

It would be ironic if it was named Chick. This is more of a poetic coincidence.

>foreigners are just going to ruin it

Hmmmm...

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>still be leading towards Monique and Slick restoring friendly relations some day
No. Tatsuya keeps getting farther and farther away from reality. At this point "friends" with a male means EVIIIILLLL INTENTIOOOONS.

A power structure is more than the official voting opportunities, dear heart.

A structure where the deciding power is (practically) exlusively in the hands of males is a patriarchy by definition. 'Patriarchy' is a word without innately negative connotations.

You are not kidding yourself, of course, you are simply lying.

I will be honest, what's so bad about the right space?

Jacked dude with his girlfriend?

Red nuns?

Police in full armor?

Sound OK desu.

It's a classic Dave Sim, except in reverse. Dave gradually came to believe Women are basically the Dark Side of the Force.

>Women are basically the Dark Side of the Force.
But that's hot.

All women are slaves on that side - well, both sides, really - and that is an issue for people who like women.

I wanna be in the left patriachy.
There's a preacher, preaching porn and wearing a BDSM mask.

Didn't notice that since I didn't see any ball and chain on that girl with the jacked dude.

I bet your parents called you dumb at school

>Turned his comic into one of the most anvilicious works still running
>Has not stopped dropping the fucking anvil since he turned that corner years ago since
A long time ago, I tried to figure out where he was going with his downward slide into obscurity and virtue crusading, like if his twist into full-on turbo-signaling was some sort of artistic satire or critique of the aggressive caricature of online radical feminism. I gave up and abandoned it after the unsubtle soapboxing started turning into self-flagellation in webcomic form. Judging by the shit in this thread, nothing changed.

>Jacked dude with his girlfriend?
Nothing wrong. I have high standards too and prefer a big buff guy. Just not the redneck variety. People just have different preferences of who they want and that's normal.

>coming in here and cluttering up the alt-white circle jerk with actual facts and shit

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Women getting "The Wall", whatever that fucking means, idk. Honestly, neither side looks that bad, it's just that Tats went full retard and you never go full retard, there's just no going back from it.

I just don't like BDSM preacher and hipsters on the strong, desu famalam.

>A structure where the deciding power is (practically) exlusively in the hands of males is a patriarchy by definition
So which Western country stops women from voting?
I'm pretty sure that's something only brown people do.

>The Fucking Handmaiden's tale shit again
Jesus Christ that fucking show.

How do you even know he's a redneck?

I didn't see his shotgun nor his truck

Never said the one in the picture is a redneck. I said I don't like the redneck variety of buff guys.

OK dude bro.

Rednecks aren't buff though
You're thinking of Countryfolk, foresters and miners and such

>Countryfolk, foresters and miners and such

That's what this is called?

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You would lose that bet, lad.

I have no idea. But 'Patriarchy' does not mean 'a structure which stops women from voting', it simply means males are in charge.

How bad is it? I've read the novel and saw the movie, but never saw the show.

A male prostitute cosplaying.

Feminism, like all extreme ideologies, is like crystal meth to healthy minds.
Tats did the equivalent of injecting an entire gallon of it directly up his own ass.

>Feminism, like all extreme ideologies

See, that's (part of) the problem. Feminism is not radical at all. It's not radical to want equal opportunities and representation proportionate to numbers.

Identifying an ideology solely with the lunatic fringe is a pretty underhanded technique for disenfranchising a large group of people.

At this point he's moved onto sprinkling carfentanil right in the eye.

Bibles AND guns? Hell yeah, if they got ale8one then I'll never shop anywhere else

>It's not radical to want equal opportunities and representation proportionate to numbers.

Unfortunately to religious nut-cases it is.

It's pretty much entirely been co-opted by the radicals though
Well that and the rapists and pedos that call themselves male femenists

Representation proportional to numbers is often nonsense. Look at Norway. Most gender progressive country on planet with active programs and incentives to get more men into nursing and more women into electrical engineering. But 90% if all their nurses are still women and engineers still men because people seek the careers they want and gendered preferences have biological basis.

Or do you mean in media? Also nonsense unless you consider books and movies etc to be corporate services instead of personal artistic endeavours. An artist's vision is never wrong because it's theirs and pressuring artists to change en masse is wrong and radical.

If you do a shitty job at reigning your bad actors then you can't be surprised when that's the look you're associated with. It might not be "fair" but that's reality. Cops are getting to have the same problem these days, for example. Black people have had to deal with it from pretty much day one. Feminism isn't so special or noble as to avoid the same fate as every other grouping.

It's never going to be 'perfect' and just, of course. We're only human.

But the USA is still underperforming, and it's not just because the 'feminazis' are crazy.

>unless you consider books and movies etc to be corporate services instead of personal artistic endeavours
These days aren't they pretty much entirely the former unless you go direct to a starving artist with a patreon? (And even then not really because they've gotta play ball with that platform.)

>Both sides are wrong!
He's been harping on this theme for a long time now. I wonder if he has any alternative ideology to present? Or is Tatsuya simply raging at the world because no solution that satisfies him exists?

Self-hating? I didn't think he was a trannie?

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Nobody knows what he is now.

Well, i think his point is that 'both sides' of the political spectrum are off in their attitudes towards gender

The show was semi decent in the first season. The book is a good read regardless of how insane it is, because it's not literally the author saying this is what they want but presenting the concepts of control in it's worst case scenario The series started off with this and then went to shit.

It genuinely got up its own ass because people started to take it literally and it went full retard losing a lot of the genuine horror of the original and now it's starting to become a rah rah fight the power with explosives and Jane Bond series.

>It's not that fucking complicated.

It is the way Tats presents it. He has an amazing talent for obfuscating his own ideology.

>but you can't possibly say that it's hard to understand.

I just did.

>If a man turns into a woman
Impossible.

I thought he was a TERF?

That overwhelming use their "le power + privilege" to throw all other men under the bus, in favor of women.

>you can't possibly say that it's hard to understand
You can easily say it's hard to understand because it is. He's fifty layers deep into his own bizarre abstract system of assumptions about gender politics and any normal, reasonable person accidentally exposed to these insane drawings will have the appropriate response of not understanding it at all.

Anyone got screen caps of his fans turning against him?

He's a full on SCUM Manifesto Lesbian Separatist (he actually recommends the SCUM Manifesto as feminist reading material in an earlier strip). To them gender is completely made up and a conspiracy by men to keep women submissive, so Transgenderism is the enemy because it reinforces gender identities by defining genders by behaviours and appearances rather than biology.

It's supposed to be a violent oppressive regime that forces women into a subservient role.
He's just too lazy to draw the world as anything but clear-cut and orderly, or get into any details.
And of course any man strolling down the street next to a woman is not a reliable partner or a good friend, it's an oppressor, who somehow by his mere presence takes away the rights of women to... I don't know. Hog the right side? Fart unnoticed?

I mean, he's not wrong.
Trannies are just the gender version of blackface.

Well then how did this happen then? I'll tell you how. Because your lot REFUSED to rein in the bad actors, or somehow, the bad actors got more power and influence over the rest of you.

Kinda like Christianity and Islam, funny enough. WELCOME TO THE CLUB.

Who is doing that?

Fuck. Did even Solanas mean it seriously?

>your lot

Nope.

At least you used 'rein in' correctly, which few people do.

>Blessed be the actors, for they give us pleasure!
>Blessed be the producers, for they have to come up with a new name for "an hour of fucking" every week!
>Blessed be the freaks, for theirs will be the sex dungeon!

Diffferent ano here.
Underperforming only by a silly metric. Something is successful and there is a gender imbalance, it don't matter. It only matters that it is successful.

>Who is doing that?

Well, feminists like Tatsuya Ishida, Anita Sarkeesian, Contrapoints, I can go on. It'd be a challenge to name a feminists who DOESN'T do that.

>Who is doing that?
Every single male and female with political power.
Men have zero reproductive rights, only reproductive punishments, and divorcing a dumb whore means she gets at least half your shit forever.
If "le patriarchal men in power" actually benefitted men, neither of these things would exist, you feminazi dyke.

Lindsay Ellis is in my experience pretty reliably even-handed and actually knows her shit from feminist theory to media analysis.
And she is masochist enough to actually dive into a Michael Bay production to tell you why he's a moron from ten different theoretical perspectives.

>It's not radical to want equal opportunities
No, but feminism hasn't been about that for a long time. When was the last time you saw feminists campaigning for equal opportunities?

>representation proportionate to numbers
See, this is a big area where feminists have lost the plot. That's equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity. And since people are different and make different choices, enforcing equality of outcome requires enforcing inequality of opportunity. Did you know that men are more interested in taking risks and assuming leadership positions than women are? Therefore, even though women are free to do so, the vast majority of small businesses are started by men. Even though there are government loans earmarked specifically to encourage women to start businesses, while men only have the loans available to both men and women.

>disenfranchising a large group of people
Let's not exaggerate here. Have you ever seen a serious proposal to repeal the Nineteenth Amendment?

Man, I'm so glad the comic ended here. What a nice final strip that was.

I don't care to check, but the old forum might be archived somewhere.

>media critic
>and youtuber
Unironically kill yourself.

just don't look at her Twitter.

There is literally nothing wrong with the patriarchy right though ???

Holy shit.
Its like a one-cunt cringe compilation.

I don't use Twitter at all for that reason.
It's a shitshow of everyone's random hot takes on that other guy in line.

Oh hey, Bondage and Dominance are on a poster in the background. I missed them.

Majorly SWERF with a TERF side that he thinks isn't obvious.

He is tying feminism to sexual freedom movement. Thats not feminism, that fetishizing women's rights.

Trannies are disgusting.

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>underrepresented
>women get to vote
>women get 51% of the vote
>women vote for men to represent them
>under represented

It's also worth noting the kind of women who run for political office.
Hillary Clinton.
Sarah Palin.
That retarded AoC donkey.
If that's the kind of representation you want, I literally have no idea what to tell you.

All women in his comics are:
>A. Mouth pieces for Tatsuya
>B. Robots
>C. Damsels

Based

>That retarded AoC donkey.
Except she is actually doing right, so not a good example.

Probably one of the representatives who nail the best most of the issues with our current system.

>If that's the kind of representation you want, I literally have no idea what to tell you.
If there could be more poeple like AOC, there would be an huge improvement. None of our representant should accept money from corporations.

I’ve been keeping up with it for pretty much the whole last season despite losing most interest just because I’m still a little curious how it’s gonna end at this point, but god is this newest season shit so far. It’s just very clear they’ve exhausted all their material and are stretching it out at this point. They’re even introducing poochies now because they’re running out of ideas for the characters they had.

Her "New Green Deal" was one of the most objectively retarded things ever proposed.
Even other democrats refused to support it.
She's a literal retard, and throwing "ENVIRONMENTALISM" in front of a retarded proposal doesnt make it any less retarded.

Keep posting this bro, I hope she sees it someday and lets you suck on her toes

Why do people women forget that the only reason women have any rights is because men allow it. I can't wait for sexrobots.

Its worse than that.
The only reason women have rights is because some dickheads were trying to pass prohibition, but couldn't pass it without the cunt vote.
That's right.
The first thing cunts did when handed the right to vote was ban liquor.

So what you're saying is, those dang dirty cunts were used to push the agenda of men who already had the right to vote? Meaning men are not always infallible voters? Hmm.

Tatsuya's not just a self-hating transphobic Radfem whipping boy, he's also a fucknugget who thinks Sex Workers have zero autonomy and believes that they're either exclusively forced into it and hate their jobs, brainwashed into liking it, are dumb as shit for going into sex work, and anyone pushing for reform of the conditions in which sex workers work are part of the problem, which is apparently the existence of sex workers and related professions in general.

So he's not just a TERF, he's gone for the full-course SWERF and TERF.

The fuck is an "infallible voter"?
>"sex worker"

The Left punishes disobedient women?

I assume its the same way the left "supports the working class", but instantly calls the actual working class "retarded flyover state bumblefuck rednecks" as soon as they dont support the left's insane tranny bullshit or whatever.

THis. Besides, The Amazon thing she did was arguably a broken clock that was right.

Yes, that’s all true, but thank goodness he’s finally taken a break from his never ending SWERF arc and moved on to TERFing now. This is much more entertaining and confusing to puzzle over.

>Punish Disobedient Women
Where are the men like this in real life? All the guys want me to step on them, but they never want to step on me.

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To be fair, the Left punishes disobedient everyone. If your views don’t perfectly match theirs they’ll do everything they can to tear you apart, regardless of gender or other status.

Alternatively, since we’re in a TERF theme, then supposedly, if you are a woman, but don’t conform to what the Left’s idea is of what a woman should be, then they’ll either ostracize you or try to reassign you to a different gender.

Ohh you should write him that. He'll probably just make a zombie comic about it, but it would be fun to see if it at least breaks him a little.

I wonder what he's even into. Does he unironically subscribe to "only yuri is pure"?

It does, but it's because men built the entire fucking world as we know it.

Why the fuck do i keep seeing people link to images instead of just uploading them to this IMAGEboard?

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Wait, is TERF good or bad now? I can't keep up with all these sudden changes in feminism

TERF, or a Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist is a bad thing. Radical Feminists in general are a bad thing.

A terf is just a feminist who doesn't think that trannies are women because they've chopped their cocks off.
Needless to say this makes them LITERALLY VOLDEMORT in the Current Year.

so its a double negative good thing?

The left eating their own is not just a meme, it's a fact.

t. leftist

>handmaids tale

AAAHHHHHHH THIS IS JUST AS BAD AS MY NETFLIX™ ORIGINAL® SERIES

No, it isn't. They're a specific subset of a bad thing.

>Wait, is TERF good or bad now?
Dabbing on trannies is always a good thing.
TERFs are correct in that respect.

HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY IF YOU FUCKS CAN'T AGREE ON THIS???

Women have no agency, when women don't act like radical feminists it's because men prevent them from doing so.

So the only solution is for all men to become radical feminists so we can teach the little ladies how to behave.

Eh, women are better seen, not heard.

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Because I didn't want to waste my time saving it, uploading, then deleting it, then removing it from my bin.

trannies are worse. we can deal with the radical feminists later

By not being a retard.
The argument that trannies are somehow "based" because TERFs hate them is like saying "vegetarianism is evil because Hitler was a vegan."
Everyone hates trannies.
The fact that even feminists hate trannies just shows how universally disgusted people are by them.

It's a shame these threads always get deleted by Tatsuya's pet mod/janitor. This is some quality discussion.

you're on the wrong side of history friendo

People are never going to universally agree on anything. Just do your own research before forming your opinions, and treat others the way you'd like to be treated. As long as you do that, you should be fine enough.

like um try again sweetie

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>finally
he's been there for years

>the Left are still going to give him power
last I checked there aren't any trans people running for President, and the frontrunner is an old white guy

Most antics are in the same weight class as women so they’ll just bash them.

>big ass jacked sonofabitch who wants to people to be scared of them on sight due to the threat of physical violence
That’s not very ladylike.

Anything > trannies.

based

The weirdest thing about that pic is the random happy straight cisgender couple in each dystopia.

Tatsuya must not know about this.

>TERFs were originally a catholic false flagging operation to destabilise the LGBT community by trying to intellectualise transphobia into feminism
>it somehow partially worked
Pretty much it’s a bunch of white women playing themselves and looking to have victim complexes, but they’re overall pretty annoying and entitled about it. Any man who sucks up to them has to be phenomenally stupid, but it’s pretty likely loads of them are ‘politician lesbians’ who say they only fuck women for man hating reasons and may well fuck dudes anyway.

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Or maybe the more simple explanation is that nobody likes trannies.

There's a push to erase real women in favor of the fetish of AGPs. Men in dresses are a more protected class than actual women now. You can be as violent towards women as you want, as long as you claim you're a tim.

Feminism is a divide-and-conquer distraction from the Women's Liberation Movement, who marched with the Bolsheviks because they knew women could never be liberated until men were.
Their hearts were in the right place but the whole Bolshy thing was to kill off the top of the dominance hierarchy, take their place, then tell the lower orders they were building a utopia of egalitarianism. Stalin and famines were a natural consequence.

Feminism sets women against men and the tiny group of people who own and run the world are okay with that.

So, we have to go back in time and Kill Marx....

It's the only way.

I like AoC's principles (if she doesn't turn out to be a huge hypocrite) but her actual socio-political ideology is hot trash. She's all heart and no brain which is a bad combination.

The Oppression Olympics get more bizarre every year

>doesn't believe in individual freedom or personal responsibility
>believes all ideologies are part of the same control system
So really, the story here is that Tats is pretty much on the brink of believing Illuminati/NWO conspiracy theories that whatever you choose, liberalism or conservatism, you're just being manipulated by the same people.

So what's Tats' third way? Something akin to enforced puritanism to free the sheeple from the patriarchy, I'm guessing? Though that would involve religion, so I guess not. Pic related?

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Representation has nothing do with power. If less people choose to go into x field, the numbers are going to reflect the population of people who show interest in it. They are expected to, nor morally obligated, to follow the demographics of people who don’t.

the hell is a BOMF?

Patriarchy and matriarchy are observable in the animal world, so how does it not exist?

Kill Engels to for safe measure

Can someone explain what the top picture even means? Or how it would be male fantasy?

How do disobedient women "get the wall"?

I think it's explaining the Dan Harmon/Joss whedons of the world.

I don't think Tats would be willing to settle for anything less than the death of all men everywhere.

>Feminism is not radical at all
Except for the radical feminists like Tatsu. Who are the loudest and most visible and color everyone's opinion of feminism. If reasonable feminists want to be taken seriously and be seen as the majority, they need to publicly distance themselves from radfems and publicly denounce them. Until that happens, fadfems will remain the face of feminism to the masses.

Deplatformed, delisted, demonitized, etc.

>Feminism is not radical at all
You mean WAS not radical.
Feminism WAS not radical 50 years ago.
Past tense bro

Want real talk? Like dark, blackpilled shit?

You become trans and get SRS, you have capitulated. Your "friends" will sing your praises and talk about how brave you are, but the best of them will be misguided and most of them will be using you for Commie Brownie points.

You will only have "power" insofar as you are a victim. And to men who really do feel like a women on the inside, this will lead to a false positive where they deliberately seek out conflict with like the local bakery so they can get attention, so they can "win" and be "reaffirmed" as a woman.

Only Tats would phrase this dynamic as "taking power away from women." Because this kind of power, where you have to at once play the victim and be aggressive, is power I'd rather not have.

I want to succeed and shine. I don't want to drag people down into the mud so I can feel relatively cleaner.

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>complaining that a business got rid of something they didn't want to host
so wait, you want the government to tell businesses what to do?

>no one likes trannies
It's really hard to, even the best of them do cringey shit. And you'll meet some online who will give you perfectly reasonable talking points but then slip into batshit insanity.

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Why do libshits always turn into anarcho-capitaists at the drop of a hat the second it suits them?

There is no third way. People like Tat exists to constantly bitch about how shit everything is while at the same time not actually knowing how to change their minds other then guilting people over perceived slights. From what I gather he's big on sexual identity being sold by corporations (I.E Satan), so I guess that plan would be for everyone to stop being sold (literally and figuratively) the capitalist view on gender. That and a all female paramilitary coup on the government.

Freedom is an illusion. All the choices you make and beliefs you hold are subliminally planted in your brain by the evil patriarchy, so everyone is their tools. Except for radfems like Tatsu, of course. They and they alone know the REAL truth.

It's honestly not far off from the sort of ideas radicalised people spout shortly before they start shooting.

We had the objectively superior sexual organ, are naturally stronger, and don't become useless for 9 months when we have enough sex.

Our stats were OP for earlygame and the leadership represented as much, but in the midgame those advantages mean less and less and that's starting to show in the leadership too. We(America, the land of God and anime) aren't a patriarchy anymore, in part because women are a voting block and directly inform govt. decisions and in part because we have female representation in our government on every level outside of the presidency. Our govt. isn't fully equal in its representation, but women are no longer excluded so patriarchy is just an exaggeration.

>It's honestly not far off from the sort of ideas radicalised people spout shortly before they start shooting.
>They and they alone know the REAL truth.

I do think they and they alone have been exposed to some fucking weirdo shit. You think a bunch of nerds would go all Call of Duty on their school easily?

Unfortunately, killing everyone and then getting yourself killed is probably not the solution to whatever horrible conspiracy actually exists. It's probably one of the conspiracy's many failsafes and false positives.

I believe in conspiracy. I've witnessed conspiracy at a college radio house that had AT BEST four people listen to the radio show. I've seen people there rig the election in plain sight, and people just not call them out because it'd be uncomfortable.

Now if people are willing to make conspiracies over something so fucking stupid, let's talk about shit that actually matters. Money, women, sex, power, quality of food, etc. Of course there's conspiracies here.

And it's so strange that this is a dismissed talking point because of its age, but the CIA and MKUltra happened. Public Knowledge, no one's denying it. Those fuckers went around microdosing people with LSD and gaslit them to try and control them.

So yeah, conspiracies exist. I wouldn't be surprised if the Clown World that is gender politics is part of it, so Tatsu is partly right here. But him framing it as the patriarchy is so unimaginative.

Awww, I was hoping it was a physical wall.

Welcome to why this entire realm of logic is completely and utterly mental and social poison. Suddenly you can't so much as say hello to another living thing without it being a power play because everything is filtered through this same perception of power dynamic. No really. No exaggeration. Common greetings become forbidden because everything MUST be a power dynamic. Even casual friendships become a factor of controlling the other person, and such people will absolutely try to be the one who mentally and physically dominate even casual interactions because they cannot mentally comprehend a world where anything could exist that's not about controlling another person.

And they all end in the same place. The same logical dead end.
>If I cannot stop people controlling me
>Because the whole world is just about control
>THEN I WILL BE THE ONE IN CONTROL
Thus social justice becomes fascism eventually because of it's inherent nature.

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No, it isn't.

>perfectly reasonable talking points
There is no such thing as a "reasonable talking point" about how chopping your dick off makes you a girl.

>The social dynamics of patriarchy and matriarchy are observable in the animal world, so why do we keep rejecting it in application to humans?
Careful pal, you're treading an awfully "toxic" line with that appeal to naturalism.

What? That she fucking axed a revitalization of NYCs flagging economy?

In their world, everything is controlled by the Devil and his corporation, selling to both sides for profit.

Not a far fetched concept, since all american radio stations are owned by one company and most areas only have access to a single tv and internet provider.

The name and noise of a devil's magic/blast attack.

Discussion of this comic is invariably depressing. Please stop feeding Tats' complexes by doing that.

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And all say that Trump is literally Satan.

>noooo!!!! stop dabbing on us libtards!!
*dabs on libtards*

>Late 00's Tat: Be nice to each other
>Late 10's Tat: Kill all trannies
What a difference a decade makes.

No, no,I mean they'll talk about how their brains are all fucked up and how hormone treatment and the surgery makes their brain's fucked up image feel better. They are as a rule very well read, and intellectually speaking I'd even say they're ahead of the curb.

And then you'll get invited to a discord full of the most degenerate shit you've ever seen.

Aren't girls just boys without pee pees?

It's degenerates who manipulate people into chopping their dicks off in the first place.

Personally i decided long ago that i wouldnt let a minority of bad actors decide my opinion on an ideology. That i would give it a fair shake by listening to its smartest and more level headed supporters. You may think a loud minority is enough to dismiss a movement but there we will have to agree to disagree

Twitter is any given individual's lowest point

It's not a loud minority, it's a loud majority that make you look insufferably insane.
It's such a tarnished label that the majority of women reject it.

Thanks user. I always felt there was something wrong about all this but I could never quite put my finger on it mentally.

Thanks for summarizing one of the biggest reasons the world is currently shit.

People always try to manipulate people, sure. But abdicating personal responsibility and claiming that people only behave or believe the way they do is because they're manipulated by "the man" or whoever into doing so is a cop-out. People have access to information, especially in the age of the fucking internet. They have the ability to think and reason for themselves. If they don't use it, that's their choice.

People are as free as they choose to be, Tatsu's belief now seems to be that the vast majority of people are either too stupid or complacent to see HIS TRUTH, which is massively dehumanising, denies the idea that people are free to make their own decisions and form their own beliefs and is pretty much the exact same kind of thinking that leads to terrorists thinking ordinary people are legitimate targets, because they're part of the problem.

>And they all end in the same place. The same logical dead end.
>If I cannot stop people controlling me
>Because the whole world is just about control
>THEN I WILL BE THE ONE IN CONTROL

It's like in Psycho Pass, when Kogami recruits Yayoi. "Instead of being oppressed, why not do the oppressing?"

I can't exactly BLAME this attitude because I've been there myself. You do feel happy when you stomp some shitter down. But I always felt that as pathetic as Lolcows like Chris-Chan were, the people more pathetic were the dedicated hate fandom that stalked Chris-Chan's every move.

Spending their entire lives laughing at some one else's

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This comic is pathetic. Being virtuous ensures one does not sabotage themselves. Being cruel and awful in your day to day interactions ensures everyone will keep as far away from you as possible. Even the richest men on earth got where they were through connections. Even the NPCs on twitter know to help their own. Being moral and upstanding is simply logical from a self preservation standpoint. Even the scummy people up top know friendship is power. They at least know to pretend at virtue.

If someone cannot understand morality for the sake of not being a shitty human being, they sicken me. I can still trust them though because they know helping people helps themselves as a simple cause effect interaction. If someone cannot understand morality even as an act of self preservation, they are less than human. They are not a living thing. They are a meat robot waiting for someone to put a bullet in their skull out of sense of mercy.

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I feel like part of mentally maturing is coming to the conclusion no matter how much other people might piss you off, you can't and will never be able to control what those other people do. But you ARE in control of your own life. Once you start living for yourself and disregarding what everyone else is doing, it's possible to be both happy and successful. I don't think it's possible to be either of those things if you're constantly enraged by what other people are doing, which gives them power over you.

Sadly not a lot of people manage to reach that point, and spend their lives letting newspapers or twitter angry up their blood.

>But you ARE in control of your own life
Eh, careful.
>Once you start living for yourself and disregarding what everyone else is doing, it's possible to be both happy and successful. I don't think it's possible to be either of those things if you're constantly enraged by what other people are doing, which gives them power over you.

Ah, the old "“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.", by Ford line of thinking? That's true, to a degree. Honestly, I'm neither happy nor successful, so I'll have to get back to you later to dish out any meaningful advice.

Both girls eyes are empty. Tatsuya is calling them blind.

This. It's really no exaggeration that there is no salvation for men in Tats' universe. Everything men do is always wrong. Even being nice is considered an evil of the patriarchy.

It's even worse that he also attacks women not sharing this viewpoint. He is an absolute extremist.

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And why should I believe you Hitler?

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It was radical at the start, they fought against women's suffrage and shamed teenagers for not going to war.

More like
>Never apologise, never explain, just get the thing done and let them howl
Which ironically enough was first said by a feminist. No-one's perfect. It's okay to get angry, it's okay to be emotionally invested in others. I'm not suggesting people become unfeeling robots, but when you reach the conclusion that
>fuck it, I'm just going to do what I want to do and everyone else can also think or do whatever they like, but I'm not going to live my life either for or beholden to other people
Then life gets a whole lot easier.

It's MIB's "a person is smart but people are stupid" thing. You'd be amazed what crap people will believe in and do if they're in a group of other guys doing it. 4channers certainly aren't immune to it.

This. Everyone needs to weed their gardens.

>If you do a shitty job at reigning your bad actors
How the fuck do you do that? I mean, if a Socialist/Nationalist/Nazi fag goes, makes a sign, and protests something, I can't exactly stop them.

>I can't exactly BLAME this attitude
Yes you can.

All of human history has been a repetition of people getting tired of the ones who think like that and murdering them after a group consensus that they should be murdered. A process that has only grown faster over human history till it's become a very fast modern cycle. Yet we still have people thinking this is a great life choice despite living breathing examples in the news getting their shit kicked in on an almost daily basis now.

One does not need to live only for the self. One needs to make CHOICES only for the self. The will and inner capability to choose. Choosing to live for others is a valid choice, but it must be the individual who picked it. The realization the self is the source of all one's choices is vital to everything. It's the source of life. To realize that, no matter what manner of coercion, the act of choice springs from the self.

>TERF, or a Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist
What a shit show.

How does Trans feminism even function? Feminism itself is pretty much pointless now, until 3rd world's religions gain majority in former 1st world countries. The only valid talking points left are misogyny in all its petite forms, the impossible true equality of sexes, and gender traditions. Trans has nothing to say about them and is more likely to speak for them, since I have never seen a trans in plainclothes, but rather in dress and makeup, seeking anyway to become more feminine. Trans competing in female sport leagues has been hilarious, as it puts the arguments for true equality in trash. And trans won't face misogyny.

>Personally i decided long ago that i wouldnt let a minority of bad actors decide my opinion on an ideology.
And that's perfectly fine but you have to remember that NOTHING is defined by it's words but by it's action.

It's like if the Devil puts on beautiful flowing robes; if you only pay attention to the "good actors" words and ideas and not the "bad actors" actions and results than you're just watching the robes and not the person wearing them.

It becomes even more fucked up when you notice some "good actors" are just playing defense for "bad actors" (soft radicals)

>How does Trans feminism even function?
By not being assholes to trans people?

It's weird how that's a strange and alien concept for people.

Damn, I didn’t know transsexuals and gays were the patriarchy.

>Feminism itself is pretty much pointless now,
I wish I was as sheltered as you. It seems very comfortable.

The left has gone bonkers.

I think I understand everything about this picture, except for the guy on the left in the mask holding an axe. Has Antifa been targeting women's marches or something lately.

How do you weed a garden in the internet age, though? Sinfest gets no platforming on major feminist sites and has been bleeding patron subs all year, and various people on the left have been attacking him. What else can they do?

How does a movement silence its dumbest voices, especially when those opposed to it are boosting those voices?

Radical feminism is self defeating. Freedom is fought for and in the end only men fight. Feminists should embrace a patriarchy which gives them as much freedom as possible, not try to break that patriarchy and let it be replaced by a patriarchy much less accommodating to women.

Patriarchy is a given, the only choice is what kind. Men are stronger, smarter and not intensely vulnerable for much of their life because of procreation.

There was the TERFening where a ton of TERF content on social media got axed ... bit of a stretch, but maybe?

It doesn't, not in the west at least, there is no legal right or career path women are not allowed to join outside of maybe coal mining, and I get the feeling there's not a whole lot of women demanding they get in on that sweet coal mining action.

"BDMF" above the guy, I presume, makes him a reference to BDSM, thereby implying that kinky sex is a left-wing mechanism for the oppression of women.

>By not being assholes to trans people
Is it a problem that requires feminism? Are trans facing misogyny?

Where do you live and what rights are you currently missing?

>The left has gone bonkers.
When they started promoting injecting kids with cross sex hormones, yes. We're ruining an entire generation of kids, just so a few people who would have become trannies regardless can pass a tiny bit better before they kill themselves.

TERFs are low key as far as leftist insanity goes.

/pol/ had a good idea of actively trying to look ridiculous to make it hard for normies to take them seriously as a thing to worry about, but that seems to be a short-term solution.

While there is no actual barrier to women holding power or high paying jobs, the fact is they tend to choose not to. The end result is men still have most of those positions.

I think user meant the guy on the political left with the axe, who's actually on the right of the picture. The porn preacher is obviously a reference to how tats thinks porn and sex work (and probably sex in general) is bad, but liberals embrace it, because fucking personal freedom.

BOMF I honestly have no idea.
>Waa! What are we not going to do on the bed Tatsu?
>nothing, because I am an evil man and that would be misogynistic and degrading

I am honestly baffled by Trans Feminism.

As a man in a dress, what rights could you possible want to gain through feminism.

I am for the Turfs. At least they are settled on being woman.

>yet another /pol/tard thread that will be done nothing about

>Is it a problem that requires feminism?
Not specifically but trans exclusionary feminism is still pretty shitty.

>Are trans facing misogyny?
I think you only need to read some of the post on this thread to answer that question. If it's not hicks spreading around rumors that all trans are looking to corrupt kids and put them on life changing treatment/surgery, it's the 'concerned' ones who think the poor confused trans people need to be committed to correction facilities until they fall back in line.

clearly the problem is all the white men present in both pics. We will not have any actual peace as long as white men continue using capitalism to maintain their dominance.

It's actually rare for a Sinfest thread to be allowed to live. I don't really care for the politics, but I do quite enjoy watching Tatsu's descent into ever greater madness.

LOL

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I guess a mod delete them for the offtopic /pol/ stuff but honestly, I hope they stop doing that and let us talk about Sinfect's descent. It's hilarious.

That tall lady would have gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for you meddling transes!

The reason that they're deleted is because the mods are unironic trannies.

Tatsu is like Bizarro Dave Sim, I'd love for them to meet one day.

Red nuns is a reference to handsmaid tale which is a book that had a recent TV adapation lately which depicts a nonsense patriarchal society worse than the United States when it was actually a patriarchal society in the 1600s.

/pol/shit is by nature meaningless. Rat's sanity is fascinating, though, mostly because he was once so... humane? I swear, never understood why he didn't manage to break in the newspapers, bar for the plagiarizing thing. Old Sinfest was a tad risquè, but hell, Liberty Meadows got published once.

Then one day this man who published " you can be an awkward nerd but still find friendship and love and faith" went I LIVE FOT HATRED DEATH TO ALL MEN. Brain tumor?

Something certainly broke him, and seemingly permanently. Even Sim has kinda climbed down from the heights of his craziness and while still not really normal, at least seems somewhat more reasonable. Tats just keeps going deeper down the hole.

Where in my post is anything like this even remotely implied? I'm saying that the man's already off the deep and and talking about it just drives him crazier. As far as I know it's been that way forever at this point.

Why do I need someone to academically explain to me why boom boom movies suck? And why is it supposed to be impressive? She should get her head out of her own ass

I heard he had a rad fem girlfriend years back and the first changes were to appease her. If that's true, he must be practically indoctrinated by that stuff now.

>To them gender is completely made up and a conspiracy by men to keep women submissive

I must have missed that meeting.

She probably broke up with him and he blamed himself and by extension all men for making him a bad person not worthy of women. Yet again the Sim parallels are there, his decline started when his girlfriend broke up with him, but he blamed her and by extension all women for being bad people not worthy of men.