Literal quote from Dark Phoenix

"the women are always saving the men around here, you might want to think about changing the name to x-women"

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Hey remember when Magneto, Nightcrawler, and Hank saved you on separate occasions?

so if women are saved it is the damsel in distress trope. If they save, they are undervalued.

who ever wrote this is jsut retarded
its not called xmen because of the men its called x men because man is our race and they are the race of man that has the X gene

Yeah, I clapped and stood up and flashed my tits in the theater when I heard that. Really empowering

I think you mean "X-People who identify as cisgender, transgender, genderfluid and non-binary"

Yes, everybody knows that line is retarded. Everybody's already made fun of it when the clip was leaked a few days ago. Everybody knows how hypocritical that line is especially being said to Charles who literally is the reason she's alive and would be on the front lines if he could

Let's all move on

Aren’t their most powerful members women?

The movie just came out. So yeah, we're going to rip on a stupid fucking attempt to redo the Phoenix story again

Saviour of the human race, reporting in

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storm and kitty and rogue?
i dont think so desu they are the ones i know as fulltime members pretty much

The X actually stands for Professor Xavier
As in Xavier's Men because they're his team

i didnt know that honeslty
but my point still stands the men isnt about gender its about a species

I'm fine ripping on Dark Phoenix, I'm saying that we already know about that clip from a few days ago.

If you count the less fulltime ones then Jeanne, Emma, and Scarlet Witch are in there too.

Fuck off faggot. You didn't want to discuss the topic so why enter the thread?

isnt frost a bad guy half the time ?

You didn't know that because it isn't true.

The X is short for extraordinary dipshit, why lie?

the x is actually for the x chromosome becasue its the xwomen
you fool

>why lie
You're the fucking dipshit here. I'm not lying.

>He called the team the Mutants, until Marvel’s publisher told him kids didn’t know the word. Instead, Lee settled on the X-Men (“I figured, they have extra powers, and their leader is Professor Xavier”).

If you're gonna try to call someone out, you better know your shit first you fucking bitch

nerds become emotionally furious and need a safe space when a lame quip its said.

based mystique

It's not really a quip. It's just more girl power nonsense theyve been pushing hard the last few years. It's become annoying

Xe, Xir and Xim are their pronouns

The X is for the X-Gene...

see i fucking thought so
knew i was right

The quip literally makes no sense though.

it's not

>any and all criticism are just emotionally furious nerds
sounds like a solid business plan

so listen to it and move on, it doesn't affect how its written.

mystique still gets (thankfully) fridged.

its nothing but a throwaway line with a bit of market research behind.

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i had to fucking google that because you fucks are confusing me
the user who said its because of xavier is correct they are named after his initials

Thank You
it's fucking frustrating that people here think that just because explanation is so fucking simple and obvious, that it can't possibly be true

>the reason given in-universe is the real reason
So you truly think joker hasn't been given the death penalty because in-universe Batman would be angry? Or do you know it's actually because he's a cash cow.

God damn you're so obsessed with being right you forgot to remember which was reality and which was fictional.

>being right
i wasnt even fucking right you idiot i said it was becasue of the X gene not xaviers name

Don't samefag.

I want to cum in her tummy

dont lie

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Neither was I said it was because they were extraordinary rather than "they have extra powers". The user saying it's because if Xavier's name is wrong though. Comics are written by people and the decisions of people shape them. They safe named the xmen because goodman didn't think people would know what "the mutants" meant.

the xaviers name thing was the first thing that appeared on google and in the wiki
see now im getting fucking confused again

google and wiki are shit user

Source: The X ASS

>The user saying it's because if Xavier's name is wrong though
I literally posted a quote from Stan Lee himself you fucking imbecile

The extra X chromosome

i know its not very reliable but its the best answer i can come up with unless you have other sources as to what the names really based on ?

he doesn't have other sources because he's talking out of his ass

rollingstone.com/movies/movie-news/the-true-origins-of-x-men-77108/

If a direct quote from Stan Lee as to why he named them the X-men won't convince him then he's fucking stupid

right it was the first thing on google now youve posted an article
i am no longer confused and will sleep easy
thank you user

So which is better, Last Stand or Dark Phoenix?

Last Stand had lower lows but it also was a lot more fun. Dark Phoenix was just boring.

OF THE IN-UNIVERSE EXPLANATION YOU FUCKING IMBECILE! JESUS FUCKING CHRIST DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FICTION AND REALITY?

no prob

Remember when "man" was a generic term for humanity as a whole?

my first comment stated that
its a sad world user, a sick sad world

find someone else to talk to wrongbitch
having any further conversation with you is pointless

It’s the “gentrification-white flight” argument my man. If you expect consistency from progressives, You’ll always be disappointed.

It indeed affects how it’s written. If these lines are how the writers did this movie, thank god I ain’t going to see it.

If you're still emotionally invested in the Fox X-men series enough that this bothers you, then you're going to always be a slave to those who push this narrative. Because you've proven that no matter how insultingly bad a series has become you're going to complain about anything it does and give it free advertising.

Do they explain why she wears clothes now? I feel like having her suddenly wear clothes retroactively makes something which was innocuous seem perverse. It's even weirder since we've seen her that was as a kid.

People get offended by the 'man = human race' thing now.

i hate to be that guy but ITS 2019 STOP SEXUALISING WOMEN

youtube.com/watch?v=iPFjCvKQF1E

The clip which OPs quote is from. Also make note how when Mystique enters the school she uses her power to turn into not blue Jennifer Lawrence.

Are people actually dumb enough to believe a statement like this?
"X" was symbolic for the unknown and mysterious back when the comic was created like "Racer X" or "The Creature from Planet X!"

The term "X-Men" was just a shorthand term for "New Race of Humans with Mysterious Powers". Related terms such as "X-Gene" and "Professor X" just followed suit.

If you mean they save the men by inspiring them, by giving them love and reason to protect and fight, then yes, they save the men from becoming monsters.
But they not save the men by becoming men themselves.

Whenever I see her I just think of that scene from Days of Future Past where Magneto was dragging her around by a bullet embedded in her. It was unfortunately so comical and humiliating.

Also, he drinks and know stuff.

...and yet the adult terrorist version of her ditched her clothes to be proud of her mutant identity.

Yeah what happened to Mutant and Proud from First Class.

Seriously, fuck these movies

It still is. By the non-butt hurt and retarded anyway.

That's the thing though, by changing it so late in the game it just paints the majority of her other move appearances as more sexual. Perhaps it was ambiguous, a necessary part of her powers and maybe a way to show how truly alien her mutation makes her look, from head to toe. Now if you go back and watch those movies it's going to be driven into your head that she really is just running around naked, because.

Is this actually a real quote?

God those prosthetic scales look so tacky just stuck on to her regular skin.

strongest men
-Xavier
-Iceman
-Magneto
-Legion
-Nate Grey
-Elixer

strongest women
-Jean
-Storm
-Emma Frost
-Hope Summers

Why does X-men have a large number of waifus and nowhere else in the Marvel universe?

Why do you care so much

Trask was right

I don't think I'd want my kid in the same school as a kid who can destroy all of reality

Can someone show me a picture of the timeline of the movies? It's so incredibly confusing

Xmen used to be the most popular team in Marvel so all the best waifus were put there. Avengers was just the place where they put the female trademark placeholders like spider woman, captain marvel and she hulk

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Exactly. It's only a few days old dude.
We still make fun of Man of Steel here.

Honestly sounds like just a random quip, not that cringeworthy. If it weren't for all the annoyance in that front over the last few years, it wouldn't be even worth (You)s.

I thought Avengers was the more popular one.

i wish i could afford my operation :(

Avengers have pretty much only become popular because of the MCU, a lot more people knew about the X-Men before that.

now they are because of the MCU, for the longest time the Xmen were A list and Avengers were C list

Does Xmen have any good comic runs?

People get offended by a bunch of stupidly innocuous details now.

>"the women are always saving the men around here, you might want to think about changing the name to x-women"

>immediately after Nightcrawler and Quicksilver saved the entire crew and Jean Grey
>Jean only helped save one guy

Character integrity took a back seat to an overpaid performer not wanting to sit in makeup.

Oh BOY yeas, I'm currently reading the Original uncanny xmen and it's great, tough I do recommend you start with the second genesis era.

Jennifer Lawrence loves these comics and breathes them. In comparison, someone overpaid and untalented like Karl Urban reads less comics than her.

>The X actually stands for Professor Xavier
No, it stands for X-tra Powers.

I almost fell for this

I feel like this would not have been out of place in Claremont's long ass run focused on his stronk womyn fetish.

>39
Mystique: > They're not women REEEEEE

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Man, it's so fascinating how fucking Mystique of all Mutant characters became such an important figure in these movies, it's genuinely fascinating and can be made into a book about how actress who gained recognition through a role and then that recognition made her absorb the role and the franchise until everyone just was sick of her.

source?

The X-men movies starring Jennifer Lawrence.
>Literal nobody in First Class
>Breakthrough
>Recognition and waifu of the month in Days of the Future Past
>Everyone is kind of getting sick of her in Apocalypse
>Is fucking field leader in Dark Phoenix

Isn't she important in the comics?

Not fucking leader of the team who can tell Charles he's a pussy.

Prominent villain, usually.
Kinda like Wolverine shoehorned as a leader in the movies was retarded.

Who are the leaders of the team?
I haven't read any comics,I have no clue where to start but from the movies I guess it could be Xavier, Beast, Jean, or Wolverine.

Literally in the very first issue Xavier states the name was chosen because they all have an “eXtra power”.

That isn't what Big Bang Theory told me, so it isn't true.

>Wolverine saves the day in X1.
>Wolverine saves the day in X2.
>Wolverine saves the day in X3.
>Magneto saves the day in FC.
>Wolverine saves the day in XO:W.
>Wolverine saves the day in TW.
>Wolverine saves the day in DOFP
>Magneto saves the day in Apoc.
>Wolverine save the day in Logan.

????

I'll give the line credit for authenticity because thats the dumb kind of shit a woman would actually say.

And now you know why a good portion of Yea Forums hates the movies.
Xavier runs the school, but usually isn't a field leader and every other hack writer just retcons him into an asshole and makes everyone pissed at him

Main leaders are Cyclops and Storm, though at times there were Magneto or Rogue, for instance.

Cyclops. Only one that mattered.

Storm has been a field leader from time to time, it was mostly often until recent days.

Wolverine is a joke.

Beast is just trash and I don't believe he ever was a leader.

I think Kitty Pryde is among X-men characters that was a leader from time to time but wasn't really highlighted in the Wolverine (with some X-men in the background and JLaw) movies.

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>Storm has been a field leader from time to time, it was mostly cool until recent days.
I got brain damage for a second, fixd.

Only Post-2012.

From 1975 to 201X the X-men were the most popular team in marvel. For a time in the 90's "Mutant" became synonymous with "Superhero."

Which comics had Storm as a leader? This seems cool. Anything with Rogue?

The X-men really lost the popularity war then. The real victory wasn't what happened in the comics, it was release of Avengers with it breaking a billion (exactly 2012 as was the comic)

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>The Xavierans

Didn't help that Jennifer Lawrence ruined X-Men and Directors continually made worse and worse movies

Fucking no.

She's the leader of the brotherhood of evil mutants most of the time and when she's not that she's Nightcrawler's deadbeat mom who he hates.

Cyclops and Storm are the leaders.

Wolverine is the loose canon who does what he thinks is right, everyone else be damned. Great character, but isn't the leader unless people force him to be, and every time he demonstrates why he shouldn't be the leader. He's the sort of character who has a strong personal code of ethics but little empathy.

Beast is actually more of an avengers character than an x-men character. When he is in x-men comics he's usually sobbing about how he's a mutant and being more of a fuckup than hank pym.

Claremont's and Morrison's.

Storm becomes the leader in her introductory comic, 1975's X-Men by Chris Claremont. Yeah there's the giant-size X-men before that but it's pretty different in tone, you can read it if you like but it's not necessary.

the worst part about this quote is how it was said without a hint of irony or even a "wink wink". I think they actually wanted it to be taken seriously.

Aren't Cyclops and Storm more 2-Dimensional compared to other characters in the movies?

scratch morrison, replace with the messiah trilogy

>Beast is just trash
only since the 2000s, because shit writers

>Anything with Rogue?
Mike Carey's run, I think? Started with 2000-ish Claremont, but that's not very popular

Movies. Were. Shit.

>scratch Morrison
Millar, pls

scratch millar too, always

I liked some of them

That's fair

No. Yea Forums made it up so they can be mad about something.

That's giving too much credit to their movies counterparts.

I am not even a Rightclops fag, but in the period between Astonishing X-men and before Avengers X-men Cyclops is one of the most interesting badass X-men characters who is finally off Charles's leash and often struggles with choices he makes and deaths they lead to. And he also bangs Emma Frost.

Among his crazy plans were: FUCKING DYING JUST TO SIGNAL THE X-MEN

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then she gets killed she showed him

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It's a cringe line to be sure, but given her arc in the film, it adds a layer of dark humor when you recall what happens to her

I'm glad it bombed.

>he defeated Emma and Nightcrawler's dad

Based

I fucking hate this page.
Cyclops isn't the leader because he's stronger than Wolverine and Wolverine is scared of him. Cyclops is the leader because he's the best at it and Logan doesn't really want the job anyway. or he didn't, until writers decided being leader was a reward instead of a responsibility.

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He did that because it was right, that's why he's the leader.

Admittedly it's a pretty crappy quip considering how much we grew tired of Joss Whedon.

But I also viewed it as a reminder to Wolverine that Cyclops gets shit done. He said he wanted that thing off his lawn it's off his lawn.

Read Claremont's X-Treme X-men, it's great

>who ever wrote this is [just] retarded

Of course they are. They made a dark phoenix movie when we already had a dark phoenix movie.

Imagine you're working at McDonald's and get a mulan sauce prank call. Then another and another and another. It quickly becomes old for you because you hear it a lot. But it doesn't get old for the prank callers because they are numerous and each did the joke once. You see where I'm going with this?

Not really. She just is a fill in villain when magneto, apocalypse, or the blob isn't the leader of the brotherhood of mutants.

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is this the new "captain marvel does a thing"

which movie was that

...Blob and Apocalypse led the Brotherhood?

Well actually I am okay with this because it some form it is true.
Jean did save everyone from Apocalypse and technically Raven did stop the mutant massacre, even tho it was in part her fault.

So it is okay when there is credit to it.

it was not too bad IMO, it felt like watching a few of tv episodes of a CW show. I am honestly disappointed for the lack of action in the movie, we went from time travel, to blowing up nukes to just a cool combat scene on a train.

It is mediocre but not terrible. The lead actress however had the worst line delivery I have seen in years.

Xmen: the last stand.

The one with the flying bridge.

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>Blob and his Brotherhood of Evil Mutants attack Friendly's and Olive Gardens.

She should have stayed dead after Wolverine killed her.
Her powers are fucking disgustingly OP at that point.

absolutely nothing from that run should have been allowed to stick around

Lets be real, he has senority and has such a small scope his plans could actually work:

>Blob brotherhood schemes
>disguise themselves to get inside that cracker barrel that banned them.
>Crash Foodie Fest '19.
>Claim his mutation is a disability.
>Make a series of fake media accounts to counter the rumor that the brotherhood is all cannibals.

THE FUCKING WORD MAN BEING USED FOR MALES ISNT EVEN A THING THAT WE USED TO DO

THE ORIGINAL FUCKING WORD FOR MEN WAS WER, AND WYM FOR FEMALES. ITS WHERE WEREWOLF COMES FROM.

GOD DAMN I HATE WOKE TWITTER CULTURE ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY TRY TO ACT LIKE THEY KNOW A SINGLE THING WHEN THEY CLEARLY KNOW NOTHING

Please Feige, if nothing else, please give me a good Cyclops in MCU X-Men.

Please recreate this scene

No, this one is legitimately a fucking stupid statement for the character to make and makes 0 sense not just in the context of the X-films but in it's own movie considering she was saved by a man prior to thiss

Quicksilver literally saved everyone in the school when it exploded. What a bitch

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I get the feeling guys weren't too keen on calling themselves gender "vermen," which is how it'd be pronounced.