Supermanfags are retarded

To be fair, it was mainly because of his massively FTL speed.

What’s the problem? HAVE YOU SEEN THE SHIT SILVERR AGE GL DID? No then fuck off

I don’t understand Thor, Hulk, Silver Surfer, Flash have all done crazy ass feats. Why is Superman the only one that gets shot? Fuck you op btw

So is this what Tommy does all day?

This is not the most absurd thing he's ever done.

He can literally rewrite reality in some comics.

I think he’s on the one who complains about Marvel, or he’s playing both sides, I forget

Those are different versions of him and reality warping is not a standard Superman power, in continuity anyways.

Superfags will never admit, but the main appeal of Superman is his super-powers and the usual power-creepy wank. They're ashamed to admit it in fear of being seen as shallow.

Nobody likes that comic, user. That's like posting Before Watchmen and asking how anyone could like Alan Moore comics.

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The Superman fans were all cheering the comic during its story-time and calling it kino among other dumb shit. They will defend any comic, no matter how bad it is, as long as Superman is character wanked. See Doomsday Clock as an example.

Absolutely not. The best Superman stories are ones where he has really crazy and imaginative adventures and naturally that leads to a power creep. This is his heritage and it's pretty great, if you ask me.

>The Superman fans were all cheering the comic during its story-time and calling it kino
Well that's retarded if true.

>Superfags will never admit,
>but the main appeal of Superman is his super-powers
THEY FOUND OUT
SHUT IT DOWN!!!

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>calling it kino
That alone is a shorthand clue to just disregard a comment.

Check it out .

You're just proving my point. The appeal of Superman is everything being super. Not whatever bullshit excuse most of his fans come up with to not seem as shallow.

Year of the Villain and Snyder in general are garbage and anyone who likes them should be ashamed of their own disgusting lack of taste. I wouldn't blame the entirety of Superman on shit like that. Plenty of Superman stories and writers that / who aren't shit.

WAsnt Snyder wankig Batman too?

I literally agreed with that, but that does not mean the character has no weight to him because he features in such stories. Check out Moore's Supreme, that is exactly how Superman needs to be written in 80% of his comics.

Well to be fair, Superman is a stupid character.

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Hey, i've no problems with Superman per see, just some of his fans. Every time i see them going "He's just a guy, ya know", i want to strangle them.

why is it only superman that gets this kind of criticism
pointing out that comic books are unrealistic and that that superheroes are op isn't a new or imaginative statement. It's apart of the genre itself. you aren't going to impress anybody by nitpicking the physics of a comic book.
saying that superman is OP doesn't mean anything when there are dozens of other characters just as strong if not stronger. no one actually reads superman for power level wanking, people were praising this particular comic because it was a good character moment for clark.

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Batman get the same kind of criticism, if not worse. Guy can hardly do anything helpful in a comic that everyone and their mother start to complain about Batwank.

>Beyond stupid

So, the same reason people enjoy reading comics?

>Thor
A powerful god born between the union of 2 powerful gods.

>Hulk
Retarded rage bullshit

>Silver Surfer
Power Cosmic, aka limited reality manipulation.

>Flash
Speedforce, aka don't have to explain shit.

>no one actually reads superman for power level wanking
Come on, user. I'm with about the first part, that complaining about Superman being OP is stupid, but come on. Don't bullshit me either. Be a man. You love Superman power level wanking. Everyone does. Don't be like that.

>the appeal of superheroes are super powers
Check out this galactic brain here

In terms of his personality, they're right in most cases

I like Superman because I enjoy crazy/weird shit in fiction. Same reason I read any comic book.

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They're wrong. Superman isn't just a normal guy and never will be. His entire shit is predicated on him being super and important. Superman will never, ever be just a normal guy.

I don't mind Superman having absurd power levels because I thoroughly enjoy things like All-Star but a lot of Superman and fans of any hero would disagree with that.

The same way there are a lot of Spider-Man fans who love Spider-Man's power/speed creep, and a lot who complained about him being depicted as way too fucking strong or fast.

>The same way there are a lot of Spider-Man fans who love Spider-Man's power/speed creep, and a lot who complained about him being depicted as way too fucking strong or fast.
And yet you fags love to bring up the time he casually defeated Firelord.

Ah, frogposters. The single most retarded creatures to ever use this site.

>Entire shit is predicated on him being super and important

To us, because he's fictional. In universe, because he's a superhero. Clark still grew up as a pretty regular guy and acts like a regular guy when he's not at work or doing superhero stuff. That's what they mean. You're taking the "regular" thing way too fucking literally

>The same way there are a lot of Spider-Man fans who love Spider-Man's power/speed creep, and a lot who complained about him being depicted as way too fucking strong or fast.
I've never seen it. If anything, Spidey fans love to remind anyone how smart and strong Peter really is, easily capable of out-sciencing Tony Stark and out-fighting the X-Men.

I hate to say it, but i'm one of those people. I love how he is written in Syder's run and I wasn't a fan of his Batman one.

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Is Synder the most unoriginal writer? His Metal and JL feel like he is trying to ape Morrison too fucking hard.

That's John Byrne bullshit and a LOT of Superman fans hate that characterization.
Pre-CoIE Superman could remember his infancy back in Krypton in full detail thanks to his super-intellect, was already super-powerful as a baby, was constantly transporting himself inside the bottled shrunken city of Kandor or back in time to when Krypton existed so he can hang out with kryptonians as a regular kryptonian, was constantly expressing kryptonians slangs, was big into kryptonian culture (placing it many time Earth's cultures), and treated the Clark Kent persona as a mere disguise.
Superman was not a regular guy in any sense of the word.

And? Your point? I just fucking said that there are people for every character who like that shit and people who don't.

You haven't been on Yea Forums very long. Ten years ago posting those Firelord pages or Spider-Man holding a building up on his back (albeit struggling) would incite threads of arguements about power creep, in-universe consistency, Spider-Man winning just because he's more popular, people posting supplemental pages from decade old comics foreshadowing the idea that he was supposed to grow in power as he got older, etc. It doesn't happen here as much as it used to, the same way there used to be daily threads about mechanical vs. organic web-shooters and that doesn't happen nearly as much here anymore.

The point was that every fanbase has fans like that, and fans who aren't. Batman fans who love Batgod, Batman fans who want Batman to go back to mostly detective/low level stuff, etc.

Bitching about "Supermanfags" specifically is retarded. OP is probably going to make this same fucking thread next time he picks up a Flash comic book and start the same fucking thread where once again people come to the realization that superheroes do crazy shit because they aren't real.

Yeah user, WAS being the keyword here. That Superman has been gone for over 3 decades, the one we have now doesn't treat Clark as disguise. I don't want to bring up kill bill vol.2 but just wanted to say this.

>The point was that every fanbase has fans like that, and fans who aren't. Batman fans who love Batgod, Batman fans who want Batman to go back to mostly detective/low level stuff, etc.
Nobody loves Batgod bullshit.

Yeah probably. Even his Justice League stuff, which i've liked, I only kind of do because of his characterisation of certain characters. The story itself was really unoriginal, but the Superman writing I like so much that it saves the run.

I'm in no way a fan of Byrne's Superman or his run on it. That's not what we were talking about. There are lot more takes on the character nowadays where he's not acting super constantly.

It's not even that fast.

Speed of sound : 343 m/s

Speed of light : 299792458 m/s

Seconds in two months :
2628002.88 × 2 = 5256005.76 s

Distance travelled by sound in 2 months :
5256005.76 × 343 = 1802809975.68 m

Time taken for light to travel same distance as sound:
1802809975.68 ÷ 299792458 = 6.01352678352 s

Hour in seconds: 3600 s

Distance light travelled in 1 hour:
3600 × 299792458 =1,079,252,848,800 m

Amount of time it would take sound to travel the same distance :
1,079,252,848,800 ÷ 343 = 3146509763.27 s

Convert the seconds to months :
3146509763.27 seconda = 1213.9312358294756 months

1 month = 730.001 hours
Speed of light = 299792458 m / s
730.001 hours = 2628003.6 seconds
Meaning that Superman is 2628003.6 times faster than light at the very most.

Heard that Jimenez had a substantial say in the creative process for Snyder's run and Jimenez is a huuuuuuge Superman fan.

>not liking superman

My personnel take on Superman is that Clark is who he is, Superman is who he pretends to be. I always liked the idea that it's hard to live up to this amazing guy Clark himself created, but I don't think enough writers use that idea.

>Yeah guys, million times the speed of light is nothing!

>Nobody loves Batgod bullshit

So you haven't been on the internet at all for very long then.

Maybe not as popular here anymore, but pretty much everywhere else for a long fucking time? Yes. Batgod became a thing because it was fucking popular and a lot fans ate it up. Not "all", but enough to make it a thing. You're dead fucking wrong if you think nobody ever liked Batgod shit.

You were talking about the Clark moments. I'm saying that before John Byrne with his "Superman is my job, Clark is who i am" characterization, Clark was nothing but a fucking disguise with Superman identifying himself much more with Krypton than anything else. Superman was supposed to be superior than regular ol' Joes in every sense of the word.

idk i mean to me it's kind of weird because i grew up with post-crisis superman. and dcau... where they had really toned down a lot of that. so it just isn't really the main draw for me. unless maybe you're talking about justice league stories

When Goku is faster, yes it is.

>Superman's not just a guy
>Mention a run where Superman's just a guy
>But some people don't like that one so it doesn't count

You're arguing against yourself. You say that Superman isn't just a guy and that his fans only like interpretations where he's power wanked to hell and back, but then you bring up one of the Superman runs that is constantly praised all the fucking time. There are FAR more people who like that run than there are that don't like it.

People like John Byrne run?

Yes, and there are a trillion versions of every comic character now, especially when they're as old as Superman. John Byrne's Superman comic is almost 40 years old. Superman comics today have more in common with those than they do with Superman comics before that. It's not shocking.

I don't get why you're so angry that some Superman fans interpret the guy that way.

Are people today unable to comprehend that everyone has different opinions on comic books and comic book characters?

>Are people today unable to comprehend that everyone has different opinions on comic books and comic book characters?

it seems to have gotten worse the last year or so

My problem with Superman fans is that they use the "he's just a regular guy" excuse for why they like the character, but then go and cream themselves all over from his ridiculous feats, or then cry and bemoan whenever he's shown to be weaker than another character. It's fucking contradictory. Not to mention that not even the comics are able to justify the "he's just a regular guy" characterization. They constantly wank him off over how important and special he is. It's either one or the other. Either's he's just regular or he's special. Superman in DC is very much special. He's the most important and beloved hero not only in all of the planet, but the galaxy, nay the very fucking multiverse. Everything has to bow down to him and praise his name. That's not something a regular guy get to enjoy. That's the ultimate status, the ultimate privilege.

It's alright. Everybody likes him for different things. All star, Morrison's New 52 or Moore's Superman is the one I like the most since they don't have to compromise his personality to scale to the grandness of the stories.

Goku has not shown speeds anywhere that fast.

That's literally every single superhero.

The truth is that Superman is 60% meta-wankery. He's that or this simple because. The answer to it all lies beyond the comics itself, it's history and company politics shit. He's the mascot for historical purposes. But that importance is translated to the comics themselves thanks to meta wankery.

That's the big truth of Superman. He's kinda like what Marvel has been trying to attempt with Carol Danvers.

>small

ITT: Gokufags get extremely butthurt that Superman can kill their husbando in one punch.

But every other fandom are truthful about this, not Superfags, though.

Take Batman for example. You'll never see anyone bullshitting about how Batman is just a regular guy. He's apex human. He's special in a way few others can be. He got there through pure autism that could only be achieve thanks to some next level kinda of fucked up trauma. He might even be crazy because of it. Because only a crazy person would be that dedicated. That's the appeal right there. Batman being awesome because he's the best human can get and it ain't easy getting there, it might be downright impossible.

You're assuming that every Superman simultaneously does both of those in which you're being incredibly fucking silly for assuming EVERYONE does that and you're still missing the point that they mean Clark having grown up in middle america, going to baseball games, understanding how middle class and poor people grow up and make a living, etc. Just because not EVERY Superman comic does that doesn't make their opinion invalid. You're getting upset over nothing.

user, there are more than 2 guys that are Superman fans. So, it's not necessary that the same people who admire him for being a regular guy, are the same people who cream themselves on his feats. Plus I challenge you to find a single fandom that doesn't like their favorite character to have impressive showings. It's the nature of fans, to single out Superfags is not the right thing imo.

He wasted most of the energy through the massive ftl flying.

done, next

What?

Buddha lived as a bum. He left all his palace to go live dirty poor. That doesn't mean Buddha isn't special. Just because Superman likes to pretend he's human and enjoy doing banal things, that doesn't mean that Superman is the most powerful, popular and important superhero inside the comics, to the point where without him there's not even a multiverse.

To keep this speed he had to use most of the energy he had, when he arrived at the planet there was little left. That's why the planet wasn't destroyed.

>he doesn't enjoy comics being comics

Shit taste.

How can you admire a character for being a regular guy when said character never was a regular guy? That's my problem. Superman was never regular. It's impossible for him to be. His very name evokes power and specialness.

For the millionth time they're talking about how Clark acts, thinks and sees himself, not how everyone else views him or his importance in comic books, pop culture, or in his own universe. He has a very comparatively down-to-earth personality for a guy who can do the amazing things that he can. If you can't comprehend that, I don't know what else to tell you. You're taking it way too fucking literally.

Galactus can destroy the entire universe by eating one small ass planet.

Comics modahfucka

>My problem with Superman fans is that they use the "he's just a regular guy" excuse for why they like the character, but then go and cream themselves all over from his ridiculous feats
People aren't talking about his strength for that, retard. He's a regular guy in terms of personality, as in he's just a dude whose trying to help people

>Take Batman for example. You'll never see anyone bullshitting about how Batman is just a regular guy

You have to be trolling at this point

>It's impossible for him to be.
But it's warming to see him try.

So, he did not hit the World forger with a FTL punch? But he got dropped. Is the World forger weak as shit durability-wise?

>Will never admit
>Some people admit this in the very thread

I don't know how OP can make so many arguements and be proven wrong in one thread

How Clark acts, thinks, and sees himself doesn't change that literally everything about him scream "he's important". Even his down-to-earth personality serves as nothing but an excuse to make him more morally perfect and special. Like Batman in that comic stating that Superman is more human than regular ol' humans. His humanity is even turned into another special gift.
But he isn't. Even in terms of personality.
>as in he's just a dude whose trying to help people
But he isn't just as dude. He's a super dude. Who doesn't just try, he accomplish it. Because he's super.
I don't believe them and they haven't proven me wrong. It's the same old excuse "he's just a guy, ya know", when Superman isn't. Everything about him is special. Even his salt-of-the-earth persona.

Ultimate nullifier bitch.

I don't think you understand that Superman is at heart just a farmer whose trying to do what he can to help people.
That characterization is what some people like about him. Yes it isn't always that way but it's been that way a lot of the time and a lot of people like it when hes shown that way.
>even in terms of personality
Why not?
>because he's super
What does that mean in terms of the way he cares about others or his personality?
Clark is basically mentally human, that's a huge part of him even though he's an alien

Of course Goku did.

>I don't think you understand that Superman is at heart just a farmer whose trying to do what he can to help people.
He isn't. He can be a super, duper special farmer, though. Who doesn't just try, but succeed.
>Clark is basically mentally human, that's a huge part of him even though he's an alien
Super intellect puts a damper to that idea.

It is a big part of it but the best stories are usually not centered around that

>hes always super
Not in terms of personalty, hes just a nice guy. Why is that so hard to get?
>you can't be a down to earth dude if your smart
Not everyone whose smart is autistic, user.

But Superman isn't just a nice guy, he's the nicest guy there ever will be. To the point where sometimes other characters that are also nice will have their characters warped just so Superman can remain as the nicer one in the room.
>Not everyone whose smart is autistic, user.
I didn't said he needed to be autistic, did i? I implied he wasn't mentally human. Humans, specially regular humans, doesn't have super intellects. Superman is mentally an alien, which is why he can be smarter than the average human. Because he was born an alien. One superior in every way to the humans even discounting whatever powers our sun might grant them.

>hours for light to catch up to him
>months for sound

Okay, so...
Distance light travels in 2 hours: 2.1 x 10^12
Distance sound travels in 12 months: 1.0 x 10^10
That statement is bullshit because sound wouldn't have even covered half a percent of light's distance in that time span...in space.

Weak.

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>But Superman isn't just a nice guy, he's the nicest guy there ever will be. To the point where sometimes other characters that are also nice will have their characters warped just so Superman can remain as the nicer one in the room.
That's not really a thing.
>I implied he wasn't mentally human.
But he literally is. He considers himself a human and he thinks like a human. Just because hes smarter then a normal human doesn't make him not mentally one. Next you'll tell me that every single human super genius in comics aren't really human

>That's not really a thing.
Tell that to the Wonderfags.
>But he literally is
He isn't. If he was mentally human he wouldn't be able to see better than any other human, hear better than any other human, smell better than anything other human, or taste better than any other human. Let alone think faster or better than any other human.
>He considers himself a human
That's him lying to himself. It's a cute and endearing trait, sure. Does wondrous to his characterization. I love it. But that's still him bullshitting himself.
>he thinks like a human
He does not.

>Tell that to the Wonderfags.
That's bad writing, it doesn't mean that he literally has that power. Are you actually retarded or something?
>He does not
He does

I didn't said it was a power, but an issue of writing because Superman literally has to always be the nicest one. That's his privilege. Because he's the motherfucking Superman.
>He does
Well, you're wrong.

Congrats, Supes. You just killed every living thing on the planet.

I can find a million examples of every single character having moments of poor writing, it doesn't mean that Clark's character is different then what it is.
Its coming your trying to hate him and taking everything super out of context and drawing conclusions that you weren't suppose to because your determined to think that he can't be what he is and it has to all be false and fake. You aren't even showing proof to back up your claims, your just going 'nah'

Goku is past simple movement. He exists as an electron. His position is always theoretical as he occupies all spaces at all times, yet none at all.

What Superman is, is special. He's the motherfucking Superman. This idea that he's just a regular guy because of John Byrne is false. It can be something that it's sold to make him look more endearing, but the comics themselves can't be consistent with it. Even when they try to portray him as a regular guy, he's still shown to be better than regular people. He's nicer than anyone. Better in his values than anyone can be. And so on. It's always turned into just another one of his many gifts. Even when he's a dad, he's a super dad.

That's how it is. and it's okay, because Superman's not supposed to be just another one. He's the motherfucking Superman. He's special.

I bet they are going to do that thing when he get another power up an a character goes "wow i goku is so fast i can´t see him" again

>superhero comic has superhero stuff in it
>waaaaaaah
Does a mongoloid failed abortion like you also complain about romance in romance stories?

Your just saying the same nonsense again with no proof. Either source some stuff showing his thinking process being completely alien and inhuman or fuck off with your baseless claims

ok.

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Whats the point of these posts?

Are you even understanding what i'm trying to say?
And what the hell are you talking about when you mention thinking process? Whatever. Want me to go there? Sure.
If Superman is capable of thinking in lightening speeds - something that he does, otherwise he wouldn't be able to fly and doge shit at high speeds without bumping into everything and wrecking shit - than that means his thinking process is inhuman and alien. Same with him being able to process shit like his many special visions or super-hearing. His brans has to be inhuman and alien to process that shit. Or him not needing to sleep or eat.

Yes, writing unoriginal capeshit. What a crime committed by Snyder. Not that I'm a fan, but calling someone unoriginal does nothing today.

power levels fags get rigger at the idea that a joke character is literally the embodiment of the no limit fallacy, so user is trying to bait people

>Superman
Kryptonian sun-charged biology

There

>goes through multiple yellow suns
>light only takes hours to catch up to him
So, what, that took him 100 years?

The closest yellow star that isn't the Sun is Tau Ceti, 12 light years away. If light only took a month to catch up that means it took him 12 years - 1 month. Just on the way back. Just say the "beyond imagination" comic nonsense; don't try to throw physics things in there.

Okay, you're a retard and completely missing the point. I'm done trying to make you get it when its obvious you're just being willfully ignorant.

Sauce? This sounds way too smart for Dragonball desu.

Just because Superman likes to pretend he's human and does mundane things, that doesn't change that he's super-powered alien or that he's special in every which way there is in-universe.

Morrison's described pre crisis Superman in ASS the best. Superman is a common man on the Paul Bunyan scale. Modern Superman is a generic capeshit character.

He was accelerating at that time, chances are that he went super duper fucking fast which is not shown.

Jesus, you guys are killing yourselves just because of a good looking splash page

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Exactly.

Maybe the speed of light in comics is faster than irl?

Thank you for posting it so I didn't have to. I got care about the logistics or power shit, this sequence was kino.

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Jimenez has improved massively with Snyder's JL. He was drawing generic tumblr style SJW shit for Supersons.

I don't know the context for this, but this is beautiful.

I like superman as wholesome hero that inspires others but sometime his more part of his character gets lost on that

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I agree with Morrison, but the thing that drives me nuts about modern Superman is that while DC wants him to be seen as a generic cape hero, they also want him to be the most special cape hero. In the end you get this kinda schizophrenic take on the character. Is he a regular guy and hero, or is he the best of both worlds and the multiverse most important hero? It's like a car driver that wants to drive that long road in high speeds, but gets guilty and scared by the velocity and so backs all the way down to 40, before pushing the petal to the metal again soon after.

That Superman doesn't exist since 1986.

See, now that's where you're wrong. That Superman started to slowly show his head around the time Jeph Loeb started to write the Superman books. Because comic writers had gone tired of the Byrne take and were eager to bring back the pre-1986 Superman they grew up with. But ever since then it has been this dance where it's always one step forward, and two steps back.

Nevermind Saitama, Rimuru can beat even him

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>He isn't. If he was mentally human he wouldn't be able to see better than any other human, hear better than any other human, smell better than anything other human, or taste better than any other human. Let alone think faster or better than any other human.
So under that logic, are the blind, deaf, or handicapped in another way are not human?

They are handicapped? I mean, that's why we use that term.

This will be my final post on Yea Forums.

How can anyone think that this is cool for real ? How can anyone take seriously a team book with Superman as a supposed to be powerful god ? How can anyone see Superman as overpowered for real in this book ?
"Ouh, Superman is flying, so fast, this is so cool guys..." why are you lying to yourself like that ?
You guys are just forcing onto yourself the new fade there will be in this hivemind of a board, with the blandest, tamest, most classicly safe comic book there can be, while your selective outrage is shitting on DBZ for things that would be praised if they were written by someone else, but NOOOOOOOOOOOO you have to shit on it even if it's good because the hivemind dictates you to do so !!!

No wonder you can't get laid, but guess what ? I got a girlfriend now. For the first time of my life after 24 years I finally got a girlfriend, and all that nerd fuss has become so irritating since.
I'm just leaving for good now, I had plenty of fun with that board but I'm done. I wish you to get girlfriends to, maybe it will open your eyes about the hivemind that is destructing your self, but sadly, the hivemind is probably keeping you away from being able to seduce anyone, so you're most likely trapped in a vicious circle, and sadly, there is no Savage Dragon to save you from it. I just hope that this message will maybe help you to think by yourself a bit more and to get a girlfriend to.

Enjoy your book.

>are the blind, deaf, or handicapped in another way are not human?
Of course they're not.

Take your shit SJWmortal Hulk copypasta and shove it up your ass.

Supes was breaking the laws and reality itself with this speed, so no.