Hanna-Barbara

>If Walt Disney didn't exist, someone would've brought animation to Film eventually. Don't use that stupid argument.
It could go either way honestly, we could've got a world where animation is still only 7 minute shorts in black and white, and with no sound. We don't know for sure since influence builds on previous works.

>HB only created the characters.

i can see you have a hateboner for hb and are dead set on downplaying their achievements so i'm not gonna waste a lot of words trying to argue with you, but really, one glance at wikipedia will tell you that's blatantly, ludicrously false

Only Normies consider Hannah Barbera good, people on the industry and/or fans of animation know they're either lazy hacks or a mediocre product of the time.

Different user, Are they only praised for Tom and Jerry, Flintstones, Jetsons, and Scooby-Doo? Why

Hey,H-B wasn't all that bad. It gave us Johnny Quest and Space Ghost

And yet no one mentions the series they made in the 90s.

>Johnny Quest and Space Ghost
What is this
>And yet no one mentions the series they made in the 90s.
What did they make in the 90s

Swat Cats and Dexter's Laboratory count as Cartoon Network shows more than they do as Hanna-Barbara. Plus by then all the animators who worked on shows like Scooby Doo and it's hundreds of clones were in their deathbeds.

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Wasn't Hanna or Barbera dead by then?

William Hanna and Joseph Barbera didn't die until the mid 2000s.

What was your favorite Hanna Barbera/DC crossover issue? I personally liked Speed Buggy meets The Flash and Jabberjaw meets Aquaman

Elmer Fudd/Batman

Shows like Pirates of Dark Water, 2 Stupid Dogs, SWAT Kats, and Fish Police. And that's not counting the original shows they made for Cartoon Network, nor the pilots that became series after H-B was dissolved.

That was looney tunes, not Hanna Barbera. Different crossover series.

Was the HB/DC crossover better?

I wouldn't say better, just different. I only make the distinction because we could very well go on about Looney Tunes all day and I felt the other topic was more relevant to OP. But yes, to my own surprise, the Tom King Elmer Fudd issue was great.

I personally think every HB show is almost unwatchable in 2019 and that also includes the "classics" like Flintstones and Scooby-Doo. Bad animation, mediocre Saturday morning plots, corny dialogue, bad tongue-in-cheek humor, ect.. I do however enjoy the 90's Turner/HB stuff and think they still hold up. Johnny Bravo is a work of Art, Dexter's Lab is okay, 2 Stupid Dogs is funny (There's even a scene where they go to a fucking stripclub). I think after Filmation, HB was the worst of the big animation studios.

Scooby-Doo got better in the 90s

Because they were the best tv animation studio of the late 50s, 60s, 70s.

Name one good series

Different user, but Top Cat and Dastardly & Muttley

There are some diamonds in the rough.

Top Cat.

Flintstones when they aren't whoring them out

The Jetsons need a bit of work, but old school Jetsons was fine

Dick Dastardly was the best character to come out of H-B.

Two Stupid Dogs was a bit ahead of its time.

Super Secret Squirrel was awesome.

>Dick Dastardly was the best character to come out of H-B.
objectively wrong

Top cat is only good in Latin America and that is because they added their own jokes in the voices.

Hannah Barbera is mediocre and a lot of it's classics are a boredom to sit through.

The shorts were top notch

>watching dubbed cartoons in their shitty language
The fuck is wrong with people.

>watching dubbed cartoons in their shitty language
I understand it better and faster because it's my native language

Top Cat and the Simpsons have better voices in spanish and even some gringos have admitted that.

I tend to watch shit subbed but the voice of Marge is unbearable in English compared to the more calm and sweet in nature one of the Spanish Dub, and Homer really nails the dumb voice.

Dubbed tends to be worse, but in those two examples they're better, doesn't help that Top Cat was a dull snorefest till spics said "okay let's fix this shit up however we can" and thats why the show was a hit here but forgotten there.

I refuse to believe that Spanish VA's did a better job than the English ones. Marge's voice is fucking iconic

then live in denial as you wish

Spbp. Hanna Barbera's earlier cartoons like Huckleberry Hound, Yogi Bear and the Flintstones have good design, appealing background art and fun characters. But then they kept rehashing the same kinds of character dynamics and sticking to formulas (and shittier art styles like the one in Scooby Doo) and stopped being good.

>HB only created the characters.
And produced all the Tom and Jerry cartoons for nearly 20 years

>And produced all the Tom and Jerry cartoons for nearly 20 years
Producers just pay them money, thats it

They were also directors and animators. It's not difficult to find this information

They never animated jack shit user. This is like saying Tex Avery and Walt Disney were animators.

what the fuck was this

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>That's like saying Tex Avery and Walt Disney were animators
>Tex Avery and Walt Disney
>not animators
Get a load of this dumbass

Yeah I assumed I was being baited at that point and stopped responding

they started the international distribution of television animation industry and the 30 minute animated series revolution in the late 50's

He-Man was mid-80s? Gen Xers were all at least teens by then and the oldest ones in their 20s.

They didn't draw anything user

H-B was at one point the biggest employer of animators in North America.

Mark Evanier talked about it; they produced a lot of crap, but making that crap was preferable to having to close down and lay off animators.

Generally, the only defenses for H-B past 1969 and Filmation are economic; they kept animators employed and that's pretty much it.

H-B did rebound in the 1990's. Remember that the first CN shows, Dexter, Johnny Bravo, Cow and Chicken and The Powerpuff Girls were also the last H-B shows.

>Disney and Avery didn't draw anything
Here, have a free (you) and the yikes that comes with it.

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Walt drew this?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Grape_Ape_Show

Pixie and Dixie and Mr. Jinks was great in Spanish. They had a Cuban, Mexican, and a Spaniard for the main cast.

Disney did draw (though most of the early successes of his studio can be attributed to Ub Iwerks, who was a superior draftsman, designer and animator) and it's VERY common knowledge that Avery was an animator. If you aren't trolling, fucking look it up, you moron.

Swat Kats aired on TBS and Dexter's Lab was made by HB studios, not CN.

Did they make PPG and SJ?

>complains about no soul animation
>thinks cartoons produced only to sell toys and nip autism has soul
Leave.

This

That's Avery, you fucking shit stain.

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PPG was made by Hanna-Barbera until 2002. Samurai Jack is CN Studios and one of their first series too.

I thought John K hated them?

John K likes their early stuff