How do you add LGBT characters without trying to push an agenda?
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Simple.
You put them in, you say NOTHING, and don't pat yourself on the pack.
I always knew Candace was trans.
Exactly.
making their sexual preferences remain in the background, that are part of their development as a person but not the main axis of this, you know, like in real life, maybe?
So Steven Universe
How did they come to the conclusion that Candace was trans?
Baljeet I can believe, but Candace?
Sexuality is part of a character, not the character.
You hint they are or briefly say they are with no one caring and leave it at that.
People will bitch even if you don't bring attention to it because that's how people are
It’s assumed that all characters are gay until otherwise shown.
Also how could Phineas and Ferb be asexual if they both eventually fall in love and have gfs
is an example of what not to do. Everyone working on the show brags on social media about the LGBT themes.
Make them surly old gay men. There's no audience for that.
You write a good character that happens to be gay instead of writing a gay character and trying to force them down the audience's throat. It's not rocket science
Easy.
I don't mention it all and just say that one character is bisexual.
Not really, I've never seen Sugar outright brag about putting gay characters in the show. Its usually other people who commend her for it and then she explains why she did it.
Candace? More like Trandace!
>gay people can't mention that they are gay
You're already enforcing strict discrimination against them
because the people who put those labels on cartoons are delusional
It's a fault of the fans mostly, no one in the crew has ever paraded their characters sexuality around, blame Buzzfed and other shitty places trying to get woke points, the same that shouted "gay rights" because Star Vs had some randos kissing in the background and some are same sex couples.
Based Mung.
The fans do and some people who work on it. But on the actual show, it isn't pushed and is never really questioned. No episode where they get "bullied" for it. It just is, like in real life.
>sapiosexual
this is what gave the joke to me, made me chuckle too
They said asexual, not aromantic. I don't want sex, and have never felt sexual attraction, but I fall in love with people too often.
To Yea Forums, any hint or nod of them being LGBT is "pushing an agenda", so I guess not.
Did you quote the right post? I didn't say (or imply) that.
Best use of LGBT characters coming through
I'd point out Sugar is very vocal about LGBT rights and equality, but then again she's very logical about it, and doesn't use her characters explicitly. Within the show it's more
>Okay, and these rock people all look like women
>Some of these rock people get into parallels for relationships with other rock women
>Sometimes they don't
Even the way it approached separation of gem roles and fusions wasn't obnoxious, it was generally told in a fun and entertaining manner (eldritch caterpillar aside), and I'm usually a stickler for that kind of stuff.
You make them, and you make them the same way you would other characters. Flaws, weaknesses, strengths, insecurities, people calling them out on wrongdoings, growth in themselves, inspiring others, being inspired by others.
Not to suck SU's dick again, but Pearl and Garnet are pretty good examples. All the character and show flaws in terms of writing thus stem from actual other minor problems like
>Pearl arguably instigating a false flag war
>Garnet debatably being codependent
>Steven being used as a pawn in a war that he should never have been victim to
>All villains being convinced far too easily by Steven's absurd CHA and persuasion feats
>Steven arguably forgiving former villains far too easily, in addition to the dick moves by his so called responsible guardians
>A lack of tension and fight scenes in recent seasons
>Onion Friends.
Are all flaws that don't stem from characters being LGBT, and therefore members of the fanbase don't resent them for it.
You do it so hard it becomes the norm. People only say "muh agenda" when it's obvious you do that for good boy points.
There's no fucking way this isn't trying to push an agenda about gays.
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yeah, and that 'agenda' is that queer people are people too and deserve the same rights as every other human on the planet. People always say 'the gay agenda' like they're trying to form a military or take over the world or something, when they really just want to exist without being punished for it
I watch cartoons for fun, not because I want to have "gay people should have equal rights" shoved down my throat in a world where gay people already have equal rights.
thing is, every other human doesn't have as many right as LGBT people think, either. LGBT activists seem to think straight people live in some social utopia and are disappointed to find out that, no, they don't, and then they renege when they discover they have to grind through life like the rest of the 99%.
you make it part of the story but not the focus of the story
why? because any story that focuses on romance first and foremost sucks
and you dont go btw dubldore was gay either because thats blatant pandering
Have your character party, get drunk and wake up in some guys appartment, there he is gay and its shown in a completely natural way, then he can get a love interest
or have him grab some dudes asshole or come out of a gay bar
Real talk though: Is it even possible without the media storm?
PBS didn't even promote that Arthur episode was going to have gayness to it. They mostly focused on the gamer episode afterwards in advertising. All the media and news shit you heard of it was from social media users screeching about it
Make it look like an unremarkable facet of an otherwise regular character.
>Queer agenda
>Character assassination
Bait. Ruby and Sapphire are shit characters for reasons other than liking each other. No agenda here.
fbpb
If you have people talking about how "progressive" it is, then you did it wrong.
>Shore leave
the problem with SU is that then it subscribes with the "forgiveness and positivity at any cost, even for the galactic conquerors that destroyed a million planets", which ultra liberals tend to adhere to hard.
I'm going to say, no.
Oh yeah, ultra liberals differently show forgiveness and positivity towards republicans.
This or the Alchemist too.
But Shore Leave is the most charismatic gay guy in the world.
> "Hey guys, see those ladies over there? I enjoy looking at them because I am a heterosexual man!""
They are constantly beaten, harassed, and/or found dead.
I only call it an agenda when you expect me to just accept blatant child grooming as normal and healthy.
Damn we should make that illegal
Have a gay character who is also kind of a bad person.
The only way to add lgbt characters without pushing an agenda is to portray them them as incredibly flawed messed up people.
Yeah in countries that would either not be airing these cartoons or would censor them anyway
so are a lot of people
Not to tip your boat, because I think the whole gay agenda is bullshit talk for people who simply don't understand shit, but it'll come as a shock to you that people everywhere are killed for everything be it because they're gay, or aren't.
If your really wanted to be inclusive, should you even include a trans character? Wouldn't bringing attention to the transness of a character run counter to a trans person trying to pass as their identified gender?
Arthur did that and people still bitched
It’s far more prevalent in those countries yes, but there are cases in the UK and the US as well.
Perhaps, and other minorities are on par too, but most other people that are victims of those actions aren’t also victims of hate crimes. People still play identity politics over this.
People who make one aspect of their identity (race, religion, sexual orientation, etc) the sole aspect of their identity are obnoxious. Characters that do it are made to pander to those same obnoxious people.
If you add a token, give em a personality outside of their tokenism. Add a black guy? Give him hobbies and relevance to the plot. A life that makes sense within the world youve crafted instead of based in stereo types. If you want to make a character based on stereo types the rule of thumb is to have another character with the same identifying trait that defies those stereo types.
I only have Yea Forums examples but; in will and grace we have Jack to define gay stereo types, and Will to defy them. In Blackish we have an entire cast of different types of black people, and one guy who defines every stereo type.
Thus...balance.
And it will come as a shock to you that those other people are usually chosen for other reasons such as a drug deal gone bad or a turf war. Not just because they were gay.
>constantly
I haven't heard a news story about someone being beat up for being gay in like 5 years. And I'm talking about in non-muslim majority countries
Probably because you aren’t looking for it.
An assault just happened in London.
>not just because they were gay
Either I wrote my sentence wrong, or you read it wrong, because that's what I was implying.
So the JK Rowling route?
They can be booted from their house/apartment for being gay bro
>London
Can't you read? I said I was talking about non-muslim majority countries.
I have a little challenge for myself that if I were to ever make a show, I would fill it with so many LGBT characters and make it a central theme of the show AND have Yea Forums still love it. And it would actually be super easy.
I think you can totally explore a character's sexuality and/or gender identity and it won't be pandering because those things tend to have a lot of an impact on your life and it'd be weird to completely ignore those aspects. The thing about that however is that you need something else to focus on. For example, let's say you have an urban fantasy series set in a fantasy New York with a lesbian, a bisexual man, and a trans woman as part of the main cast. You could have the lesbian be a by-the-books elvish police officer who feels disillusioned with the state of the world, the bi guy be a hikikomori white hat hacker with mild sociopathic tendencies, and the trans women be the eccentric and lovable owner of a store in Brooklyn that sells potions, spellbooks, magical familiars, etc. I'm coming up with these off the top of my head, but you can do anything as long as the characters are unique. As basically everyone in the thread has said, you've got to have the character be interesting outside of who they are or who they want to fuck.
No they can't. That's against discrimination laws.
So you are saying that if someone in a majority in their area are beaten, killed, or harassed, that it is less of a crime?
Are you saying that a crime is worse when motived by a minority status?
Is the crime of harassment, assault, and murder in and of itself not awful in all cases? Or is it made more awful by petty motivations?
A smaller number of cases do not make it an epidemic
I'm saying this as a fag I never felt endangered
UK: Muslim country
US: Yeah but black dudes
That's not bullshit either, hell, even LGBT academics talk about how a hugely disproportionate hate comes from black communities. I think a trans person is 500x more likely to be assaulted by a black guy than any other demographic.
Which is hilarious because normally they're on the supposed same political side.
No, you read what I said wrong.
Dont make a big deal about it. The first words out of their mouth shouldnt be "I'm whatever the fuck kind of gay." It should be a standard introduction. Then its shown later that said character is gay or whatever. Its that fucking simple, DONT MAKE A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT. DONT SHOVE IT IN OUR FACE, DONT MAKE THEM A MARY SUE. ITS NOT HARD
Some countries they can get arrested or executed for it.
Can’t you read? London isn’t a country.
Also, Muslims make up 5% of the population in England, so even if we were talking about the country your comment is bullshit.
You wait for the final episode, in the last 20 seconds left you grab the manliest guy in the team and reveal he was gay all along. Bonus points if you marry him with a random gay guy.
What fag nonsense are you on about? I didn’t say anything like that.
I’m saying someone in a majority in their area doesn’t have that as a factor in their assault. 100% guaranteed.
Wtf are you talking about dipshit? Nobody used the word “epidemic”, which is mainly used for diseases.
Yeah, and they censor the gay bits out in those counties.
Then go bother people in those countries. Leave the people who dont do that shit the hell alone.
Give them flaws and make fun of them like you would any character without using LGBT as the subject of conflict
'Intersectionality' is a meme, and a shallow one at that.
Okay, so what is a hate crime and why does it matter? If a white dude gets assaulted in a bar in flyover state america, and a gay guy gets assaulted in the same bar for being gay. Presuming both are completely innocent with no provocation, is one assault inherently worse then the other? Despite both men having broken faces?
>People who make one aspect of their identity (race, religion, sexual orientation, etc) the sole aspect of their identity are obnoxious.
Whites in a nutshell
Doesn't change the fact that it was Muslims.
therebel.media
Don't add any.
In politics it's being used quite a bit
Show a scene where the Lord Jesus Christ explains how disappointed he is with them before the thrones of heaven, and that's the only time they appeared
I'm confused
>London isn’t a country.
England is its city though
I know the reasons why most shows wait until the *very* last second to confirm a character is gay, but it honestly annoys me at this point. I’d rather have a gay character show same-sex attraction/have a romance within the first season instead of waiting until the last minute for it to be some big ‘reveal’ for the audience. Nothing annoys me more than a ‘SURPRISE! This character was secretly gay all along!’ moment.
Generalizing an entire race is called being prejudice, user.
>blatant child grooming
>What are sunday church services?
And dont even argue its not harmful to children, because those same fuckers will likely end as flat earthers or worse.
Orwell was right. Politics do destroy languages.
Ahem >Accurate depictions can't be racist.
Brooo?!
Sunday church services are voluntary and for your OWN children. Making teachers read tranny books to elementary school kids is indoctrination
Shits not even comparable.
Putting gays in cartoons is right on the line. On the one hand its can often be pushing an agenda. On the other hand gays are here, they arent going anywhere, and having them show up is reflective of society. Really activates the almonds.
You don't. They're such a small portion of the population that the only reason you would think to include them is because of some personal bias you have in their favor.
Because 8 year olds don't get invited to their teacher's gay wedding. And if they do, they shouldn't go.
Yea, your comment didnt qualify, and most people still dont know the difference between racism and prejudice
All white people do not boil down their identity to one aspect and claiming so is prejudice and frankly stupid.
I don’t remember anyone bitching about this guy. Maybe I missed the shit storm.
Loved this dude, would gladly let him give my children a 4th grade education and if we became friends, would go to his gay wedding.
A real class act.
Just give vague clues about their orientation and let the fans do all the work.
Nobody could possibly be angry at this saint of a man.
The Cheif from Brooklyn 99 is a good example
recognize that forced gay romances are just as boring and shit as forced straight romances
based
people don't like having the rug pulled out from under them. straights or gays alike.
>asking this on Yea Forums
Unless it fulfils their fetish, they'll always say it's an agenda. Do you want to add em? If yes, don't make them fucking insufferable to the point gay is their only personality trait and I won't give a fuck either way.
yea in third world shit holes in america its a hate crime and the shit is peddled in EVERY FUCKING MEDIA. Every form of entertainment media is pushing that we have to give a shit about what fuckin flavor they are. whats left of the lgbt community is a riot with no actual goal other than normalizing every degenerate fetish onto youth and the general populace. In third world countries where that shit actually has consequence should be what they are focused on but no its just spew of propaganda and bastardizing any original stance/goal of gay rights. Its political fad people hide behind because it makes them look decent and progressive just like feminism and how its gone from valid complaints to taint sucking nit pickers. sick of seeing this shit i have no problem with actual gay shit but the amount of bullshit that comes with it and the SHEER VOLUME of worthless shipping and virtue signaling disgusts me and dilutes entertainment value of the cartoons or whatever media they are forced into
>Sunday church services are voluntary
Dont play the innocent retard card user, evangelical indoctrination is everywhere in burger town.
>Putting gays in cartoons is right on the line of indoctrination
Only if you are a shitty parent who lets their children watch anything they want.
That beeing said, Im in favor of normalizing gay relationships in media, especially in children media. Im certain it would significatively reduce the amount of ignorant assholes in 10-20 years from now.
You have a character who doesn't act like their sexuality is their primary defining feature. Don't call attention to it, and only reveal that aspect (and I can't stress this enough) if it helps the story in a meaningful way. Done with subtlety it can add depth and make for a more nuanced narrative. Broadcasting it in a ham-fisted way so the author can earn Progressive Points ™ is the surest way to turn off readers/viewers.
>>Dont play the innocent retard card user, evangelical indoctrination is everywhere in burger town.
From your own family. They cant force you to go to church sperglord.
And childrens media normalizing gays isnt something Im against, but with the pandering woke sjw writers on a mission to save the world it seems to come at the cost of the production. And you are fucking insane if you think kids cartoons will help the worlds ignorance levels.
Get out of your bubble you backwoods reject.
That autist that screeched for two and a half hours about Steven Universe nailed the problem pretty well in my opinion:
heterosexuals come up with clean slate, baby face homosexual characters without any nuance or charm/faults to avoid liberal blowback of not getting every minute detail of an ever changing set of rules and ideals of gay culture.(IE, you can't create a catty femme like the Queer Eye team because heaven forbid you present a gay as a lisping airhead.)
homosexual or queers come up with homosexual characters that are almost paragons to avoid what they believe will be conservative blowback. (IE, you can't have a sleazy gay playboy because that puts fire under the stereotype that gay men are sexually promiscuous.)
Gays and Lesbians and transgenders are never incorrect, they're never on the wrong side of an argument or problem, they're never racist, or classist, or nationalistic or globalist. They're always just a little too precious.
Unironically yes. It's unfortunate the show gets hailed by people as being the saving grace of animation BECAUSE it has gay characters, or how CartoonBrew favors Rebecca Sugar as a creator because she's a bisexual woman or how people highlight the show having gay characters more than fucking anything else. But in the context of the show itself, it does it right.
Had the Gravity Falls cops been revealed to be gay in the middle of the show instead of at the last 5 minutes, they would've been a good example, too. They're funny "obsessed with each other" characters, like Morticia and Gomez.
I don't want to list adult cartoon shows because that's cheating.
Those cops were great, I do not remember the gay reveal
It was at the very, very end of the last episode where they say some little joke and then pause, grab each other's hands, and look into each other's eyes while finishing a sentence they were both going to say.
>Gays and Lesbians and transgenders are never incorrect, they're never on the wrong side of an argument or problem
what a crock of shit them being faggots doesnt make them inhuman. just further proof half these people are narcissists with severe entitlement issues
>You put them in, you say NOTHING, and don't pat yourself on the pack.
this.
if the show revolves around relationships then it's obviously going to occur as a subject matter and element of character growth.
if the show is a vehicle for selling products and the characters are all blank slates with nothing but the thinnest personality to get by for plotlines... sexuality obviously isn't involved and shouldn't be involved:
> if your fictional universe doesn't have to deal with clogged toilets, don't talk about how people in your universe deal with their constipation.
the answer: don't
What are you blubbering about?
England is a city. Just not in England.
This is the right answer. No matter how you write a character, any hint or inference that said character being LGBT and the usual suspects will howl about pandering.
>reddit.com
you gotta go back
gems dont have genders and they're not humans
Haven't kept up with the show but how do they handle him?
We need to push the LGBTQS agenda to children.
Make it the least interesting part of the character.
dont
Good
Honestly it isn't surprising that Blacks and the gays don't mix since they really haven't in America. On both sides of the aisle African-Americans are given reasons to reject LGBTQ+ stuff in general. A lot of them do it for religious/societal reasons as contrary to popular belief and to the chagrin of the most liberals, African-Americans tend to shun the enlightened elitism of Atheism+ types. You're more likely to find a black jew/Muslim than a euphoric fedoralord in most African-American neighborhoods even if they're in liberal controlled states like California. Even liberal non-leftist blacks will tolerate gays but only if they have to. Whether by the counterculture of rejecting the idea that whitey wants everyone gay with sparkledog buttplugs, fear of bugchasing pozzers, or the effeminate weakness/debauchery of it all, most blacks have an instinctive revulsion to the LGBTQ+ lifestyle.
You can’t add them without pushing an agenda because the agenda is the point of adding them. It isn’t about the people, never was- it has always been about control and power and by pushing an agenda you create a rally point to gather followers who will make you their leader and thus we arrive back at power and control. -idrr
Don’t.
This is why children are becoming faggier and faggier growing up to be huge faggots like OP
Just mention it like once and then never bring it up again
Real Talk SU is both a massive cop out and also horrible at the LGBTQ+ shit because every character is a laughable stereotype of insane lesbians. Garnet/Ruby/Sapphire are the fist first lesbians who once they stuffed their boxes, they immediately moved in and became conjoined at the hip like an anglerfish. Lapis and to an extent Pearl are abused and battered housewives with one becoming her victimizer (Lapis) and their other becoming obsessively codependent (Pearl). Amethyst is the fat bastard hedonist people think of a landwhale butch lesbian. She's filling her holes 24/7 in one way or another because she's not happy with herself or others. Peridot is the nerdy girl who went lez because someone roped her into it and is woefully codependent on an abusive relationship like Pearl in an effort to fit in.
The cop out is that every gem is a woman so it's easy to make them "gay" when by Sugar's own words their asexual space rocks. It's America Chavez being a "lesbian" only because their a mono-gendered species so of course they're going to be homosexual as their procreation allows it. If they needed heterosexual procreation to evolve/transform then they would do it and we know this because this is how Steven.
It's actually funny because sans the implication Rose was a hedonist flower child that went native, the icon of Rebellion against Homeworld had to commit the dreaded act of heterosexuality to give birth to the Gem Messiah Steven and his narcissim for himself along with heterosexual love for Connie is what saved the day. So the lesbians fucked everything up and needed the heteronormies to fix it as usual.
you dont
who wants dead faggots on kid shows?
>when by Sugar's own words their asexual space rocks
She never said that, she just said that they gems have no gender because their specie has no concept of gender because they are holographic rocks. She's also never outright called them gay.
Pretty much before Garnet wedding. That was just retarded.
By not asking that question in the first place.
Look at Midnghter and Apollo
>Midnghter
You had one job.
Well aren't you a special snowflake
Have them be likable characters on their own, without making them mary sues. Take a look at wallace from scott pilgrim
>It's a 3% of the population needs to be in 100% of all media episode
>3%
I am almost certain it's more than that. At least if my kid's high school is any indiciation for Gen Z's makeup, like 10 percent are at least bi
Most surveys are between 2-5%. Trannies are less than 1%. Either way, they're insignificant.
Don't tell people that your LGBT characters are LGBT
The experiences of some sheltered Yea Forums weirdo don't apply to everyone.
15 year old "girl"
Not a TRACE of breasts.
It's called Flanderization, if I'm not mistaken.
Treat them as humans instead of props. Don't reduce them to just one trait.
Gays who's personality is entirely being gay are obnoxious, tedious, boring human beings of little import. Most people who take a single aspect of their self and inflate it into their sole defining characteristic are tedious human beings to interact with.
Nothing wrong with being strongly passionate about something and that being a part of who you are, but if your entire schtick is that you are a stereotypical flaming queen, you are just the rainbow equivalent of the weird guy who wears all black and never shuts up about the insane clown posse.
Do you see what I'm saying? Its a boring and shitty characterization that generally reflects uninteresting people.
>The Rebel Media
Show them as villains, getting stoned by the heroes, or having God nuke countries that tolerate them.
Just look at what anime does and try to copy that.
Oh my God, we need to immediately ban murder and assault. I can't believe it's currently legal to murder and assault gays in the West, this is really blowing my mind, thanks user.
Noelle was right.
see pic.
You meme like /pol/ isn't celebrating the literal end of illegal immigration because Trump caved on the tariffs.
Here's come another bump limit reaching shitpost thread.
As if you won't get mad anyway.
I need to repost this when soi-ra fans try to claim "B..but only two couples are confirmed gay!" and dismiss all the queer subtext as conspiracy theories. They'll probably try to use the fact that it references comics and not cartoons as a loophole.
he just does wacky todd stuff, the asexual plot is unnecessary and feels out of place but not enough to sperg over like some anons have.
I'd just make an animated version of "Boys Beware".
u cant
Sugar doesn't care, so much that she also doesn't care about the quality of her show or controlling her team.
Phineas is prepubescent and hasn't started noticing girls in that way. Ferb has, which is why that image sticks him with "gynosexual".
You don't.
>the same rights as every other human on the planet
Can you name one that gay people didn't have in, say, 2000? Describe specific things. For example, heterosexual people have never been at liberty to marry whomever they might want. Married people are generally off limits, for example, and the laws regulating such eligibility issues applied equally to straight and gay people.
You can't.
Maybe in 2015 where nobody was yelling about "MAH LGBT REPRESENTATION" or "FUCKING LIBERALS AND THEIR GAY AGENDA".
Ruby and Sapphire, Jeff mothers and that guy from Paranorman were good examples of well LGBT characters, but imagine if you do today after all sjw shit that happened in the last decade. All you will get will be the same reactions I mentioned at first.
The only alternative way would be background characters or LGBT characters with their condition seen as a funny thing (like Smithers or Puri-Puri Prisoner).
Putting the gay couple in the center of attention will be the same and it'll get the same angry reactions. It's something that has been done in a lot of series recently, nobody want to see that again. Or at least try to make the couple the more cute and less forced as possible.
Arthur did it right. No explanation, no agenda. Just present the character as gay and never mention it again.
I think my fourth grade teacher actually invited her students to her wedding to sing a song. Obviously not the reception though.
>because Trump caved on the tariffs
What do you think "caving" is?
>Mexico; we're doing this thing
>Trump: then I'm doing this thing to punish you for doing that thing
>Mexico: all right, we won't do this thing any more if you stop that thing
>Trump: OK
What do you think the point of the tariffs was in the first place? Trump has been the focus of most news media for three and a half years now, and you still miss things like this?
Flanderization occurs over time, where a character starts out with some quirks that gradually consume their character. Ned Flanders from The Simpsons is the namesake example. That user was talking more about a character being built around identity politics from the start.
- The right to be legally married to another non-related, not otherwise married, consenting adult, and all the benefits entailed (eg: benefits related to inheritance, power of attorney, health insurance benefits sharing, etc).
- The right to adopt children.
- The right to serve openly in the military.
- The right to have the same age of consent as heterosexuals.
- The right to not be discriminated against based on sexual orientation when seeking employment, or obtaining goods/services.
Short answer is:
You don't, leave that gay shit at the doorsteps and let god burn them quickly before making a show aimed towards children, you filthy degenerate.
Thanks, I hate it.
You don't.
Based.
Also if you're gonna add lgbt characters in cartoons, at least market your show to have an audience of 13 +. Teaching kids about trans and gay should be explained to them like those puberty videos you watch in elementary.
I don’t mind if a character is LGBT, but I hate it when that’s the only trait they have. It’s kinda like making a black character, and the only character trait they have is being black.
And also, cartoons with LGBT characters should be Atleast 13+, or Atleast censorable (not a key element to the series). Because if not you’ll lose the Anti-LGBT market (the Christian parents that shelter their kids, the entire nation of Russia, China, and the entire region of the Middle East & North Africa)
>LGB
If I absolutely have to I make them background characters holding hands or something.
>T
No way fag.
I'm a Christian so my stance on the whole thing should be obvious. If I had my way you just wouldn't put gay characters front and center in a kid's show because they're not old enough to understand their own sexuality. Not because of my 'beliefs' but because I genuinely believe there is a thing called brainwashing and they should at least be old enough to understand what's being shown.
There is also a thing called gender roles that we shouldn't be replacing in boys by showing two adult men kissing each other and glamorizing their relationship. Gender roles are very important to me because they shape how society functions so that the ones who are best suited to do certain tasks are not taught to do otherwise for no good reason (sexual preference is not a good reason) and take those tasks away from others. When young boys don't understand their own sexuality yet, it is a very bad idea to do this. They grow into men. Men are the providers in society as a whole and there is emotional pain and a slew of other mental issues that arise when they can't do this.
"This is the parent's job" yadda yadda, I know, I preach this myself, but not every child gets the lessons they need from their parents, because... they don't always have both parents, or any parents.
In SU's case though it's funny, people basically never complained about Pearl liking Rose so much, especially as her own master, but the real reason is two-fold. Not only is Pearl's obsession with Rose not glamorized, but it's part of her flaw as a character to be obsessive, and pretty much everything about female gender roles Pearl adheres to hilariously closely for a lesbian. She's a caregiver. She's submissive. She's even fond of doing Steven's laundry. It's really easy at times to forget she is technically a lesbian. Ruby and Sapphire are really the only big offenders if you really get down to it.
nice blog post
>blog post
what
Arthur proves this is still triggering.
first day on Yea Forums, I take it?
He means that it had too much text and he wasn't able to read through it because he has an attention span of five seconds.
Wrong, incel.
homophobes can't stand even the mere presence of any one that isn't 100% heterosexual. you'd almost think they were repressing something.
>you just wanna fuck spiders
>He doesn't want to fuck a spider
Speedreading is a thing you know.
>implying a couple paragraphs of fundie nonsense is that much of a slog
>consenting adult
Was not the standard for heterosexuals. A heterosexual man could marry a woman but not a man, same as a gay man. Same rights and limitations. It just didn't align with the romantic preferences of homosexuals, but civilizations haven't institutionalized marriage for the sake of romance.
>The right to adopt children.
Could a two heterosexuals of the same sex adopt children together? Or was adoption limited to specific situations that most homosexuals chose not to put themselves in?
>The right to serve openly in the military
Meaning that they could serve in the military if they wanted to. Military service isn't a right, btw. Even with conscription, militaries set standards for admission that not everyone meets.
>The right to have the same age of consent as heterosexuals
But they do/did. Even in cases where different sex acts have different ages of consent, the relative criteria are the act and the sexes of the people involved, not their orientation. The issue is that homosexuals often choose to do different sex acts than heterosexuals.
>The right to not be discriminated against based on sexual orientation when seeking employment, or obtaining goods/services
In other words, making sexual orientation a "protected class" by which people may not exercise their freedom of association. In a situation where sexual orientation is not a protected class, homosexuals are free to discriminate against heterosexuals on the basis of sexuality, same as the reverse. Do you think that gay bars should have the right to kick out straight people?
Kinda was, I eyes kept rolling from the tripe. Makes it hard to read.
He's probably a phoneposter.
That user isn't me.
Also boo fucking hoo. So I believe gender roles are a thing that should be respected because they shaped a proper society. More than I could say about what you stand for.
>how dare you question my obsession with telling other people how to live
I've never done that. Can confirm. I'm just a random schmoe.
The problem is less the character and more Americans. They have a very unhealthy relationship towards sexuality. You add an LGBT character and a bunch of people will blow it out of proportion, some people will use it for an agenda while others will accuse the writer of trying to push an agenda.
It's best to just avoid all relationship/sexuality stuff when writing things aimed at americans, it's really not worth the hassle.
This is pretty true.
I've now seen that aspect attacked from every political perspective I can think of, so I guess it's just bad writing.
Pretty sure you're looking at the wrong assault:
edition.cnn.com
>push an agenda?
Explain.
Being proud of your sexuality will always trigger SJWs.
Reading this it's pretty apparent you're not likely to reassess your own beliefs, but your argument about brainwashing can easily be applied in the other direction. I'm guessing you feel if gay kids get the sense that only straight relationships are acceptable (because gay people don't exist in their cartoons) then that's societally beneficial and might steer them away from sin or something? Also very curious about gender roles being so important to you, as I'm sure you're aware they've shifted massively over human history and the idea of the discrete roles of the nuclear family unit was not prevalent for all that long (I say was because arguably it isn't now).
If we get into numbers. Whites are only 11% of the global population yet /pol/ throw the largest tantrums when not portrayed as a majority group.
Whites are supposed to be the majority group in white countries.
>I'm guessing you feel if gay kids get the sense that only straight relationships are acceptable (because gay people don't exist in their cartoons) then that's societally beneficial and might steer them away from sin or something?
No. Nothing steers you from sin. You're going to sin. Everyone is going to sin. That's... inevitable.
But I'm definitely not advocating to increase the chances.
>Also very curious about gender roles being so important to you, as I'm sure you're aware they've shifted massively over human history and the idea of the discrete roles of the nuclear family unit was not prevalent for all that long (I say was because arguably it isn't now).
The people generally suffer from a nostalgia for a fictionalized America that never really existed in the first place. And to the extent it existed at all, it was only for a small fraction of the population.
The right to marry the person they like or to adopt a child with said person.
Go watch Gem Harvest again.
>Arthur did that and people still bitched
Only Alabama
>Can you name one that gay people didn't have in, say, 2000?
The right not to be fired for their sexual orientation. In fact, residents in a number of states are still waiting on that one.
Why are you looking at global numbers? Most Western media are set in North America or Europe if they're on earth at all.
You don't. It's that simple.
>Arthur proves this is still triggering.
Only if you are from Alabama
This
Do you think that if people exclusively feel homosexual attraction, they should reject that and never act upon it?
you don't. just accept faggots will never be accepted by normal people, and neck yourself if you are a fag or a troon. Lesbians can be fucked straight.
I can never take anyone that talks about sin seriously, because I prefer to plant Marigolds to protect my tomatoes than use pesticides. And if Jesus hates that, he can go sit and spin.
>Most Western media are set in
Fictional idealised versions of Earth.
Even Japan knows that.
>Lesbians can be fucked straight.
Guess that's what happened to you.
>and neck yourself if you are a fag or a troon. Lesbians can be fucked straight.
You don't sound like a normal person
t. incel
>normal people
/Pol/.
Normal.
Well, that's not an aberration at all...
A lot of LGBT characters get added this way only for several media outlets to publish news about it and ends up making people seethe.
Andy made fun of them in Gem Harvest because they're 'hippies'. Not because Garnet and Pearl are huge queers
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You can't. At least not these days. They're going to be piss poor cardboard cutouts shoe-horned in for diversity points for a least the next decade.
>People actually like this poor excuse for a character
>I can never take anyone that talks about sin seriously
I was asked, I wouldn't if I wasn't asked.
>the icon of Rebellion against Homeworld had to commit the dreaded act of heterosexuality to give birth to the Gem Messiah
someone post the screencap of Steven being allegorical to the Antichrist
I never asked you, and now you're going to tell me I either have to douse my garden in chemicals or let it get infested by hornworms?
I think it's funny how leftist are anti-racist and claim to stray away from that, yet believe every Christian is a walking sermon that feels like forcing their beliefs on everything with a pulse. The reasoning is identical.
Also yes, you did ask, shortbus.
>I'm guessing you feel if gay kids get the sense that only straight relationships are acceptable (because gay people don't exist in their cartoons) then that's societally beneficial and might steer them away from sin or something?
Name one. Just one western media today that doesn't have a LGBTQ++ character or a creator that actively talk about it all the time. Just one.
>yet believe every Christian is a walking sermon
maybe you should stop reinforcing that belief. why do you think the rest of us should have to live within the rules of your particular religion?
Paw Patrol
>maybe you should stop reinforcing that belief
...When did I do this again?
that makes no sense
Here
Hi, that was me. You're talking to a different anonymous poster now. Confusing I know!
shove it, libtards!
That's not a result of my beliefs. I've already stated that.
>Confusing I know!
>I never asked you
Yeah, especially when other people claim to be you!
Christians are the most persecuted group in the current world.
It all makes sense now...
Might be right on that one. I can't find anything on Chapman
Holy shit. They attack Paw Patrol? For not having any agenda? And fucking Thomas too?
Ya hafta tow the line 'bout gettin' fucked in the bee-hind, yessir.
>Sapiosexual
What in the god damn???
Maybe you should tripfag
That's crossing the line
Nigger we're not going Schrodinger's Fag on this shit. It's best to assume that sexuality is irrelevant unless otherwise stated, even then assume that it'll be left ambiguous with the goal of ruling up shippers to drive views.
> that queer people are people too and deserve the same rights as every other human on the planet.
That's like, just your opinion m8.
Mine is that they deserve one way trip to a gas chamber.
that attack happened because they literally weren't acting gay enough
A person attracted to intelligence
True, personality defects tend not to be caused by beliefs, its usually the other way around.
Kek
I think he meant "as characters", not real life.
Technically it's true that they never asked, I guess?
So you just do this to everyone that tells you they're a Christian, huh
How is an episode circled around a gay wedding not forcing the fuck out of it? It screamed look-how-progressive-we-are and they did more than pat themselves on their back.
Now I'm imagining gangs of camp guys going around and beating up people for not being queer enough for them.
good one
careful with that edge, son. maybe /pol/ is more your speed.
There are two answers to this:
The first is that you simply can't, because Yea Forumsv/pol/ will always REEEEE at the slightest hint that a character isn't a straight white cis male. Thin-skinned nancies will always find a reason to be offended, and will construe literally anything into a personal attack on their politics and their way of life.
The second answer is that you write a good character who just happens to be gay or whatever. You don't make their being gay into the focus of their personality or their personal arc any more than you'd make being straight into the focus of a character. That doesn't mean you can't have (for example) an openly gay couple or a gay romance in your show, after all you see straight romance and straight couples in kids' shows all the time, just that it shouldn't be about "hey look at these characters being gay!" If your show doesn't feature romance elements then there's rarely a reason to address sexuality at all, regardless of whether it's straight, gay, or anything else. As long as the characters themselves are well-written and fit the tone of the work as a whole, then there's nothing wrong with having them be gay. Of course, going this way will still piss off plenty of people and will cause Yea Forums to shitpost about it, but those people are retards and not worth listening to anyway.
Seems like fair play when people do the same to me for saying I'm gay.
>leftist are anti-racist
Right wingers can also be anti-racist. Actually, most people don't care about race because it's something you have to be taught. Don't get pseudo.
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Maybe you should read some Cap comics.
Well I haven't done that
>Namefag
Now that's who REALLY wasn't asked for their input.
they copied it BADLY
>Buzzfeed called the show "terrible" and pointed to instances of gender and social inequality that go unchecked on the show. In the Guardian, Ryder is described as a megalomaniac with an implied "unstoppable God complex."
>To them, Ryder isn't a megalomaniac, and Sir Topham Hatt of "Thomas" isn't a neocolonial autocrat. They're just the guys delegating responsibilities to their eager inferiors. And the fact that these leaders, both white males, look like most figures in position of authority in the real world is not lost on children.
>"I watched 'Paw Patrol' once with my daughter, and on that episode, Skye volunteered for a mission, but then Ryder picked two male pups," said Rebekah Pajak, a mother of a 2-year-old and a 1-year-old in Chicago. Skye is the only female in the core team of six rescue pups on the show. "I remember thinking, 'There's a glass ceiling in this cartoon!' "
>Here's an idea, gratis, for the creative team behind of "Paw Patrol" and "Thomas," should they want to broaden their appeal to parents without alienating their fan base: Ryder and Sir Topham Hatt retire and are replaced by their equally domineering sisters. This, in turn, boosts the social status of all the non-male characters. Children would still get the satisfaction of immersing themselves in an orderly universe where rules are rules, and everyone is in his or her place. Just without the white guy on top.
What the fuck?
>asked for their input
I need permission to comment?
Are you a mod?
>because it's something you have to be taught.
No, it isn't. fear of the unknown is ingrained in our genes.
>fear of the unknown
Is not racism.
>conflating racism with fear of the unknown
I guess we are playing "spot the logical fallacy" now.
Yes, just like with pedophiliac attraction
Technically speaking racial bias is a genetic trait. When tested, infants show a distinct preference for individuals with matching characteristics to themselves and their parent even if said individual isn't someone they know.
grateful to God every day
and I em grateful to God ever since
>>Here's an idea, gratis, for the creative team behind of "Paw Patrol" and "Thomas," should they want to broaden their appeal to parents without alienating their fan base: Ryder and Sir Topham Hatt retire and are replaced by their equally domineering sisters.
Literally "it's ok when we do it"
>Technically speaking racial bias is a genetic trait.
This is hardcore pseudo intellectualism.
>When tested, infants show a distinct preference for individuals with matching characteristics to themselves and their parent even if said individual isn't someone they know.
That's not racism.
"Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another, which often results in discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity. Today, the use of the term "racism" does not easily fall under a single definition.
The ideology underlying racist practices often includes the idea that humans can be subdivided into distinct groups that are different due to their social behavior and their innate capacities as well as the idea that they can be ranked as inferior or superior."
>When tested, infants show a distinct preference for individuals with matching characteristics to themselves and their parent even if said individual isn't someone they know.
Studies suggest that this is the case at 3-6 months, but not at birth.
Funny thing is she fails to realize that this would only be a partial fix. If the dynamic displayed never changes then all you've done is swap the boss' genitals while they still choose male workers over females.
more or less what happened
two lesbians got beaten-up, because they refused to make-out in public
I'm assuming that is you, since its the only one that has had the same logic patterns and writing so far, and if it isn't, I don't really give a fuck and I'm still assuming it. Making a declaration to all and then claiming it is not directed to anyone is a fallacy. A declaration to the room is directed to all individually in the room. So yes, walking into the thread and declaring to any gays that might be in the thread that they should hide in shadows and not be shown as a thing that exists is the same as directly telling a Christian they are an idiot.
Put Araki in charge of writing and drawing every gay character
user you literally have me quoted as saying "racial bias" in the post and still went with "racism". If you want the gotcha moment you have to read carefully.
Did they ever figure out a cause for that? I haven't bothered to check to see if any new developments happened with the study.
>That's not racism
That's his point.
Plus, you haven't given me a good solution to protecting my tomatoes, so I'm peeved about that.
Wasn't that revealed to be bullshit?
>If you want the gotcha moment
I don't. I'm just very jumpy around talk about race.
You guys really love to spitball, thankfully I dropped the race thing pretty much immediately
>Making a declaration to all and then claiming it is not directed to anyone is a fallacy. A declaration to the room is directed to all individually in the room. So yes, walking into the thread and declaring to any gays that might be in the thread that they should hide in shadows and not be shown as a thing that exists is the same as directly telling a Christian they are an idiot.
What is the point you're trying to make here? That I posted thing and was denying that I posted thing
I said my two cents on the topic in general. It's your choice to take it personally. I actually don't believe sexuality in general should pushed on children early, but the TOPIC is about LGBT characters isn't it?
Don't know why. It's a retarded thing to get hung up on.
I don't think it has been proven fake yet. It's a shame we have to even ask because of all the false flags recently.
>Did they ever figure out a cause for that? I haven't bothered to check to see if any new developments happened with the study.
Dunno, psychological development is a weird process. I'm fairly skeptical about studies involving racial identification anyways, because race isn't exactly a scientifically determinate thing.
When you are an unhinged identitarian fascist getting what you want means you caved. For example: Vox caved when they fucked all of YouTube this week. Marvel caved when they destroyed comics to push pedohomos (they're all the same) instead of storytelling and collapsed sales.
Change the language until. You win.
Therefore, LGBTQ is now LGBTQS. S stands for straight. We need to be inclusive of the oppressed majority. Plus NPCs go batshit(ER) when you change their language.
>Wasn't that revealed to be bullshit?
No. Maybe you should reevaluate your choice of news sources.
Then say "Sexuality shouldn't be pushed on children, homo or hetero", instead of going on some weird soapbox about how homosexuality on TV is undermining gender and social roles somehow, despite it never being made clear why two guys or girls kissing destroys the protector or provider familial role somehow, dumbass.
Also, quote who you are responding to, instead of hiding like a dickshit.
Anything psychological is weird and hard to pin down.
Nigga I was asking because I've heard conflicting info. Either way is reflects poorly on the gay community. Either a pair of lesbos got the almighty blue hell beaten out of them by other gays for not showing off or they made it up to dredge up drama.
Coming from someone apart of it, the gay community is pretty fucking shit.
>a pair of lesbos got the almighty blue hell beaten out of them by other gays
Seriously, what the fuck are you reading?
Don't.
If the kids are going to be faggots, they'll figure it out on their own, or they'll conform to being heterosexual.
>Then say "Sexuality shouldn't be pushed on children, homo or hetero", instead of going on some weird soapbox about how homosexuality on TV is undermining gender and social roles somehow, despite it never being made clear why two guys or girls kissing destroys the protector or provider familial role somehow, dumbass.
But that wouldn't be relevant to the topic.
>Also, quote who you are responding to, instead of hiding like a dickshit.
Testy. I actually deleted the post number by accident.
Except it is relevant to the topic and expresses your view better.
Why? Consenting adults, mutual happiness, etc.
He means SJWs are so stupid, they think Trump caved into the Tariff, while in reality, it was Mexico that caved into Trump's demands with his Tariff, so he lifted it as part of the deal.
It actually only expresses my view in a way that would offend you less.
>I intentionally worded my first post to antagonize people
B-but Candace is a cute girl!
Although she is a lesbo-magnet
Sure user
>I was exposed, so I will now try to bow out with the what dignity I have left
What does the QIAAP+ stand for in LGBTQQIAAP?
FGGT
BTTPRT
FDGPCKR
TRNN
CCKSCKR
DGNRT
Not that guy, but I wonder. Would that mindset mean that Hello Nurse and Miss Bellum are verboten forever because "no sexuality allowed"?
By the logic that he eventually brought up, yes.
depends whether he's a giant hypocrite or a backwards puritanical weirdo
They clearly aren't, (especially now) so that's kind of a dumb question.
*allowed
You're really so afraid of talking to someone anonymously that you VIRTUALLY talk behind their back
That is impressively cowardly
Accept that people (and characters) being different from each other in no way constitutes an agenda?
It's the Teferi v. Kaya dynamic.
Sorry if I hit too close to the truth. Not sure how I was going behind anyone's back by posting in a public thread that you were clearly monitoring, though.
No self respecting gay or bi dude wants to be called queer. Go to hell.
Queer
All of the media shit was from lefty journos obsessing over an overrated childrens cartoon that is on PBS life support
If sjw media didn't report on nobody would know or care
You can just ask instead of projecting everything. Holy shit.
Tumblr pls go
>so afraid of talking to someone anonymously that you VIRTUALLY talk behind their back
the fuck are you on about?
Not that user, okay, are you a giant hypocrite or a backwards puritanical weirdo?
So which are you?
Be careful not to fall into the trap of making an interesting world but failing/forgetting to make the characters interesting.
That happens alot for some reason. The setting of SU is interesting, the setting of Korra (pre S2) is interesting, but the characters are bland as fuck.
>False dichotomy
I don't have to be either. Just because you keep creating scenarios where I eventually do something hypocritical with my own logic doesn't mean I actually have done so in this thread. Pump your brakes.
She's also gotten awards for it...
World-building is a whole lot easier than character-building. And for a lot of people, more fun. See /tg/.
Some do, surprisingly. Or would you argue that they aren't self-respecting?
But is Hello Nurse bad or good?
Yes
I would argue that the characters in LoK were pretty good, they were just shoved in to poorly-written and contrived situations.
Do they actually kiss her? I don't really remember
The autist tranny had some good insights but never really focused on the core issue
A gay character is either an idealized perfect character and a paragon of goodness with no flaws (boring) or a self-insert/fantasy of the author
A hotheaded scientist character who struggles with his own personal sense of pride and sense of self worth who happens to be a lusty bisexual and who has an organic set of flaws >> Flaming faggot who ran away from his bigoty family/morally perfect supporting character who has no flaws
I disagree
My ex used to call everything queer. No fucks were given.
One time, we were checking out a game store that moved in after the Pride center changed locations. Had a staff member come over and start berating him after he called it the 'Queer Center' until I came over and gave him a kiss.
Yes 100%.
They mostly gawked at her massive cleavage and ass in short skirt. There might have been a kiss or two.
I basically don't recommend you show that to children but it's really not allowed now either way
They just kinda liked being raunchy in general in Animaniacs, so I guess they had the overall tone of the show going for them there.
So puritanical weirdo, then.
I don't know if my 6 year-old niece has seen Animaniacs yet, actually. She mostly watches the Real Ghostbusters, the original Loony Toons, and WB DC cartoons for her retro-stuff.
silly user, don't know that children should know absolutely nothing about human sexuality until their arranged marriage at 16? just like it says in the Holy Bibble
Oh, they'll know. I just believe the parents should do that and not the cartoon.
Fag. You would not be saying this if it was any other wedding.
>I just believe the parents should do that
ah yes, because a bunch of repressed fundies are the best possible option for teaching sex ed to their kids.
Then you end up with a JK Rowling situation
The creator says they're gay, then everyone complains there was nothing to allude to it.
>tfw living in a part of the US that actually believes that
Though, around here, its not until they are they 21, 5 years after they've been married, that they should know about sex.
Already had the first instance of having to correct her with a "Girls can't get married to each other!', which we did correct that, yes, they can if they want to.
Keep projecting you clown. I'm not a puritan by any stretch. Just telling you what MY opinion is.
No, that attack happened because they wouldn’t act out some faggots sexual fetish.
Oh shit.
No, it isn’t. Most authors, while good, still put in some dumbass romance story.
I for, one, welcome the new censorship of the right. I didn't use to give a fuck but after getting all I loved being shat on and censored as bad and problematic I feel nothing but schadenfreude when it happens to those who did it.
Funny thing is before all of this became such a shit show I defended the depiction go gay character in movies while talking to some "extreme" religious types.
You know it is interesting that making something illegal still doesn’t stop people from doing it.
People are gonna get mad but, yeah.
I think to a lot of people on Yea Forums any acknowledgement whatsoever is bad and pandering. This isn’t the crowd I’d ask for advice on this sort of thing
Some people. To make it more realistic?
Nah
Based
Just cause some idiot makes absolutely no sense whatsoever?
That isn’t a JK Rowling situation, it’s just a retarded fanbase
Well, I guess. If censorship has to happen at all, may as well be petty about it. That makes the most se
You dont. Defining a character's identity by who they want to fuck is ridiculous as it.
Wait a minute, I can't help but notice your sentence was cut sh
So it just means being retarded? Yeah I get it now.
So are most humans not in 1st world countries
>CNN
>doesn't give description of what the attackers looked like
They were muslims.
But Rowling didn't say nothing.
fuck off back to your containment board
Dumbledore being gay makes sense though. If I were writing a children's story about a boy in the 90s, I wouldn't prioritize hinting that his old mentor figure is gay beyond being over 100 years old and never having a wife or girlfriend despite being successful. Gayness isn't something that always has to be obvious and talked about.
Not him but this seems likely. As only muslins are openly violent towards lgbt people.
And they censored it. The free speech crowd was oddly silent about that.
How is it possible for Shoreleave to be such a raging stereotype, yet still more infinitely endearing than so many other fictional fags?
>the free speech crowd.
Only in your shitty far left twitter bubble, i know most political youtubers i watch talked about it. Just Tim pol made two whole video on it i think, but its not big news as actual violence is escalating in the world thanks to you people.
AS always is "free speech is only worth it when it helps me" with you fags.
In real life, I make gay jokes with gay friends constantly. In a comic or cartoon, though, people automatically see a gay character as part of an agenda because the medium is largely for children and has been without gay representation traditionally, anything going against that tradition is met with a "what are you trying to say?!" aggressive level of suspicion that comes with the logic of "you knew a lot of people wouldn't like this but you did it any ways because you have an agenda". People are open to the idea of creative control until there's something they don't like.
> being over 100 years old and never having a wife or girlfriend
I thought that was how he got his OP wizard powers - ultimate semen retention.
Thanks I read that as Midnigga
for certain right wing types, the mere existence of non-heterosexual people is an "agenda". there's no rationality with these people.
>noticing the hypocrisy of people who are normally against censorship makes you far left
But please, tell me how I'm making the world more violent.
>for certain right wing types, the mere existence of non-heterosexual people is an "agenda"
Because it probably is.
By not giving a shit about people who accuse everything of having an agenda.
This , and make them into normal persons instead of gay stereotype tokens.
And have the amount of gay characters in your show reflect the amount of real gay people you would see in RL.
From what I have read/seen 2-5% of the 1st world population could be classified as genuinely "not hetero", so if you have 30 main/support characters in your show have maybe 1-2 be non-hetero, instead of the insane inflated amount of homos in shows like Steven Universe and other shows.
The rationale is as I stated: Anything outside of the traditional is meant to subvert, even when it reflects reality because they see entire mediums as their territory.
Why does it matter what percent of a population exists? Does everyone need to study demographics to write fiction?
Why is it so hard to believe that that just isn't the norm of California liberals and they'd be censoring themselves if they didn't include the types of characters they wanted?
It's especially funny when you consider how white males are a global minority, yet they're the vast majority of protagonists. It especially gets funny when movies like The Avengers cover large universal happenings and the most important people involved all happen to be white males in America.
You shouldn't ask Yea Forums how to write characters.
Oh yeah people defending the showing of the episode is clearly hypocritical, while you crying for free speech after censoring everything you don't like isn't.
And you only prove my point by putting that one tweet of a someone who i can only assume is linked to AVGN
Great you found a guy who doesn't like your blatant hypocrisy and is using your tactictis against you. BIG FUCKING DEAL.
Timpool and other still defended the showing but pointed out the hypocrisy of your cryes of censorship.
They're just there. Some aspect comes up in conversation, like they're going on another date and nobody comments on it as being out of the ordinary. Gays are never given any special recognition or treatment. They can be assholes or even the bad guy. Sexuality is as important a detail to their situation as eye color.
Categorically false.
> majority of protagonists
Only in your deluded head you piece of shit, did you know "foreign" movies exit? did you know there's non american cinema? you keep on harping about how "bad" diversity is in movies made in a white majority country but you have yet to consume Chinese, or indian cinema. Tell how diverse have those movies been? because they are full of people of their receptive ethnic groups.
Go on and write a letter to bollywood asking for then to include south americans if you are actually worried about diversity
I live in a third world country and i can tell you gays and lesbians don't have it worse than anyone else. They get killed just the same by a crack head who wants another does.
>complaining about human sexual orientation demographics in a show about alien rock holograms
Holy shit you're illogical. I'm glad you posted this though, as it brings up a good point: To organically introduce gay people, the setting should lend more towards it. Sure, gay cowboys are a thing, but if you're writing 1800s cowboy fiction, it would be jarring if half the cast turned out to be gay and it's supposed to be serious. If your story takes place in a more contemporary liberal college campus, sure, have half your cast have sexual orientations more complicated than just "straight". But these are just what to consider, if there's a cast of 5 and not all of them are straight, there's no reason to apply arbitrary guidelines like "there need to be 29 straight characters if you're going to have another gay character".
You're hitting a strawman here. Problem is that this subtle "mere existence of non-heterosexual people" like in RL, is a thing of the past. Today having shows where gays and gay couples are severely inflated in numbers and way into your face is becoming the norm. Introducing a progressive "reality" that isn't reality at all to children *ahem* propaganda.
Children, even 20 years olds, don't have fully developed brains - especially the critical thinking part.
So giving them either a leftist or rightwing worldview (presenting politics to kids) is a bad idea; it's essentially social engineering. Give them.. well.. not politicized kiddie stuff like idk Dexter's laboratory.
>i can tell you gays and lesbians don't have it worse than anyone else
How can you know this?
So are heteros, and in far greater numbers. What you described are obvious violations of their rights since all of those are criminal activities.
That sounds like it applies to black people more than anyone.
I don't remember anyone bitching about him. Hell, when they finally showed his bf in the Jungle movie, nobody raised a fuss either. This dude is how you do a gay character right.
Why even need to argue? You knee jerk fedora tipped so hard that I assume this is some kind of satire.
>Great you found a guy who doesn't like your blatant hypocrisy and is using your tactictis against you.
The culture war has made you retarded. You don't even know what I'm about yet you somehow know my "tactics" and you're saying my hypocrisy is blatant. Yet you're quick to defend and excuse one angry gamer's hypocrisy. How do you know I'm not Tim?
If maybe they do maybe they don't, but Doubt it when starving in the streets is fairly common. And torture by drug cartels is not something you are sure to escape from. Being gay is not something people are hated for, and if you have time to type out how your felling were hurt by a gay joke you have it better than 80% of the population already.
Don't.
You're talking about the "Be gay, do crimes!" meme? It's a very interesting position. Nothing says "gay people are normal, too" like clownishly inciting crime.
Just because 2 people consent to canabilism doesn't mean you should normalize consenting cannibalism in children's cartoons user.
I'm not saying there needs to be a diversity quota, just that using realistic demographics to gauge when it's appropriate to have a gay character is really dumb. What happened to your head?
Why do you think oppression cancels out instead of adding up?
Now they have to worry about cartels AND hets hating them.
Heterosexual marriage and sex revolves around consent... but if people also consent to cannibalism... consensual heterosexual sex is bad too.
I never understood why some gems never decided to look male for the hell of it.
>replies to string of anonymous posts inna discussion
>lol that one wasn't me uwu
I'm not defending him, i'm not saying what he did was right. But you are trying to put words in my mouth and ignore the examples you were given.
AVGN does barely any political content so I bout it's even him.
Outlining a random nobody who is for censorship on the other side does not help your argument hat actual regular people who are NOT for censorship are fine with this.
That does not mean I'm not going to laugh when the LGBT community who ash censored countless media gets censored themselves.
>how do you know I'm not tim
What does that have to do with anything? It's this just a very bad appeal to authority?
>prefer to plant Marigolds to protect my tomatoes than use pesticides. And if Jesus hates that
Where are you pulling that bullshit from?
And this is why people don't like agendas.
... mate if you have time to think about how oppressed other people hating you are you are definitely way above the average living standard in this shithole. I live in one of the most wealthy cities in the country and when i go do my groceries two blocks away i pass by at least three homeless and someone searching he trashes to make some money.
But they can just fire them for some other bullshit reason like being late that one time or being slightly rude to a costumer once intstead.
They do that with pregnant women a bunch and those dumbass bitches refuse to take them to court over it.
Seriously I know thre mothers that happened too why are they so retarded?
>"you should meet my boyfriend! He likes movies with chicks!"
>accuses someone else of strawmanning while simultaneously creating his own strawman
>throws in a "both sides" fallacy for good measure
Do you even know what a strawman is? what argument did he misrepresent dude?
Calm your tits. The alien rocks are female lesbians in anything but name, their labeling was a smart move by Sugar to get shit past the censors. And there are other examples than SU, Korracomics comes to mind.
The 2-5% was just a guildeline, sure if a creator want one of the main characters to be gay then sure go ahead, just don't make the society look like every third person is gay.
Forced over-saturated LGBT stuff like in SU makes for a bad show in the end. Same way overly religious and patriotic movies are garbage.
Because the forced political views take important room from the plot and makes it obvious that the art isn't genuinely creative or authentic. Even kids sense that and dropped SU after season 1AB and 2 (at least the numbers felt drastically and they were forced to make "stevenbombs" to inflate the viewer numbers".
Probably because that's around the time they can actually focus their eyes.
yeah, so go fight for rights in those countries
Gay people are fighting for rights they already have
What did Vox do?
>Cap's a filthy Irish
Say it ain't so, mate?
Yes. As well know the LGBT community has been very serious in its adoption of the 'Be Gay, Do Crimes' stance.
>HGS
>anime
>I'm not defending him, i'm not saying what he did was right.
No you're saying
>Great you found a guy who doesn't like your blatant hypocrisy and is using your tactictis against you. BIG FUCKING DEAL.
Looks like you're defending his motives as just pointing out hypocrisy and using my tactics against me (still don't understand this) and excusing it. But you're trying to clear that up now.
>But you are trying to put words in my mouth and ignore the examples you were given.
That's exactly what you're doing to me, user. You entered in this telling me my hypocrisy and my tactics without even asking.
OAG isn't AVGN, I never said it was.
>Outlining a random nobody who is for censorship on the other side does not help your argument hat actual regular people who are NOT for censorship are fine with this.
Right, actual regular people. "Free speech" was hardly the issue in the Yea Forums threads or anywhere else, but as you're displaying, there is this kneejerk animosity towards anyone suspected to be liberal with a critique that doesn't exist for liberal things being censored or when conservatives censor, like Proud Boys marching to protect free speech and then celebrating the silencing of a political opponent who was murdered in Japan or a conservative politician wanting to censor The Walking Dead. With a lot of people it isn't just about free speech, but fighting a culture war.
>forced political views
>alien lesbian rock creatures have relationships
This is more of a problem with your perception than anything else.
No, heterosexual relationship culminate in offspring, no romance beside that is important or needed.
A romance that does not end in a genetic offspring of the two parties is hedonistic and pointless.
Infertility in this scenario is a tragedy that's just a part of life but still makes a person as useless as all the cumulative humans in history who never had children and were a genetic waste in the longrun.
>tries to be nice and make an example of not only leftist being capable of manipulating children. Although in the 1st world, leftist are the ones mainly doing it now in cartoons
>apparently that's a "fallacy"
I guess you're the type who think throwing around fancy words makes for a good retort.
>That does not mean I'm not going to laugh when the LGBT community who ash censored countless media gets censored themselves.
So you're treating gays as a hivemind. Nice. What did they all group together to "ash censor"?
"The alien rocks are female lesbians in anything but name". I'm just repeating myself at this point because of your, intentional or not, ignorance.
you show, not tell.
>same sex couple having a romantic date; i.e holding hands in the movie theater, etc. how avengers: endgame handled it was fine.
>joe russo: i was on a date and he was talking about blah blah
but dont do what swamp thing did and have it awkwardly shoehorned in
abby: we should go back to the lab and-
that asian guy: and try to find boyfriends?
i mean shit, he could have just said "im the token gay character" and it would have had the same effect.
i also think sexuality shouldnt be in kids cartoons
You're repeating yourself because you don't have anything but your suspicions to back up what makes SU "forced".
That's pretty much telling at that point. You mean you want creators to be mute on the subject while the characters show and talk about it? But just not talk openly about it? Sexuality is a common topic even in the workplace.
>i also think sexuality shouldnt be in kids cartoons
A big part of Peanuts and Charlie Brown was crushes between the kids. Is that bad to you?
>"Free speech" was hardly the issue in the Yea Forums threads or anywhere else
it wasn't until people started censoring those who disagree with them. And I'm not talking about the far right types like the proud boys.
You pointing to them and making it seems like the free speech movement is represented by them would be akin to me calling you a filthy commie and putting the the death of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians in your hands.
I'm talking about regulars comic book artists like Richard C. Meyer being fucked with by far left lunatics.
I'm talking about sexy game being pulled out of steam for gods know what reason. While games full on sex scenes with minors are allowed to stay if they have the right ideology.
I'm talking about marvel comic putting shitty witter after shitty writes in charge of their comics just because they have the "right positioning regarding political issues"
I'm talking about my hobbies being destroyed by people who are now crying for free speech
So forgive me for having "kneejerk animosity" towards anyone who has those viewpoints.
I just wanted to have my hobbies left in peace.
And FFS don't pretend that these left wing activist are liberal or anything of the like. They are authoritarians scum.
>alt-right fuckboys complaining about authoritarians
delicious
> if you don't want your shit censored you are alt-right.
I if lunatics like you had anything to do with the rise of the fr right that has happened recently... No it's probably a coniquidink.
Also I'm mixed so it makes 0 sense for me to support with nationalists.
SU was supposedly a growing up story about a half-alien kid living a "normal" human life, but who also was forced into a life of warfare against a malevolent galactic empire.
How important are random townies sexuality, Gems having their period/sad about their lesboships and fusion (sex/sexuality) to tell this story?
If it is not important to the plot at all and political shit that the creators want to add (yes LGBT is political ffs), then it is forced into the stories.
This is your last (you)
>A big part of Peanuts and Charlie Brown was crushes between the kids. Is that bad to you?
no, having a crush or something is fine, but when you show a character imagining kissing another character or something its a bit much, unless its played for laughs
>So you're treating gays as a hivemind
It's liberals that treat them as a hivemind. Them alongside with women, blacks, immigrants, Muslims, etc. It's why they coined such terms as "queer" and "PoC", in order to lump them all in one sack and pretend that they are all of the same mind and politics.
First they came for the fascists, and I did not speak out because I was not a fascist.
Then they...didn't really come for anyone else, because there were no more fascists.
Just make an entertaining thing that had a character that's cool and also gay and people will just go with it.
>>So you're treating gays as a hivemind
>It's liberals that treat them as a hivemind.
ah yes, the fabled "no u" rhetorical device
I hate spiders. I also would choose this spider as my waifu over all the others. The author consistently writes her as the only on who genuinely gives a damn about the well being of the protagonist.
>Comic artist with mixed children? FASCIST
>Japanese games which often portray same sex relationships? FASCIST
> someone wanting to have his comics be entertaining on not political propaganda? FASCIST!!!
I wonder if you guys had anything to do with the "explainable rise of fascist in the 21 century".
Indeed comrade!
Those millions of Russian peasants (babies and toddlers included), who didn't believe in our ideal society were fascists and deserving of death.
The polish minority in the Soviet Union also deserved genocide and torture for being Polish since Poland was fascist.
Not him, but you're the faggots who come up with terms like intersectionality.
No that guy, but none of the were townies are explicitly homosexual IIRC.
Pearl was the closest commandant to PD, and she arguably created her Rose persona, nudging her towards rebellion and eventually falling in love with it.
Ruby and Sapphire's relationship was to show that it's one of the taboos on Homeworld and to be a catalyst for PD/Rose to decide to fight not only for Earth's but also for free gems.
It kinda seems that the relationships do have plot importance in the show.
>>"I watched 'Paw Patrol' once with my daughter, and on that episode, Skye volunteered for a mission, but then Ryder picked two male pups," said Rebekah Pajak, a mother of a 2-year-old and a 1-year-old in Chicago. Skye is the only female in the core team of six rescue pups on the show. "I remember thinking, 'There's a glass ceiling in this cartoon!' "
I have a 3 year old, so I know more about this awful show than any adult should. Every dog has a specialty. Construction, water, rescue, etc... the girl dog is a pilot. If the boy didn't pick her, then it probably wasn't an aerial mission.
Now picture if he had. Say, maybe, the mission involved heavy lifting or putting out a fire, not flying. But because she was a girl, he HAD to pick her and that would unduly put people at risk. A fucking cartoon for babies gets why this is a dumb idea, but the military and fire departments aren't allowed to notice things - places where real lives are on the line? And this cum golem spewing gape of a cunt is angry about little pink cartoon dogs not being Rin Tin Tin or White Fang.
Can't say I've seen a lot of Stalinists lately, but I sure have seen a lot of Nazis.
I really like to recommend this book. It's about a gay teen who's the son of Not-Batman and Not-Mrs. Fantastic. He's trying to hide two things from his dad: that he's gay and, worse, he has superpowers. At no time does the kid act like a lispy effeminate queer. In fact, he's trying out for a spot on a super team and doing vigilante work on the side. And, surprisingly, it actually has a really solid action plot where both he and his dad have to step up to stop Not-Martain Manhunter who just can't stand this planet or its people anymore.
>You pointing to them and making it seems like the free speech movement is represented by them would be akin to me calling you a filthy commie and putting the the death of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians in your hands.
The "free speech movement" isn't organizing against Bevin and didn't say a word when the whitehouse put together anti-video game propaganda. But it seems like you're concerned with the SJW gaze pointing out what's problematic which makes comics self cenor... better tell the SJWs to self censor? But yeah, you didn't call me a filthy commie, you called me some specific form of censor with "tactics".
>While games full on sex scenes with minors are allowed to stay if they have the right ideology.
What game was that? Pretty sure I would have heard of this on Yea Forums.
>I'm talking about marvel comic putting shitty witter after shitty writes in charge of their comics just because they have the "right positioning regarding political issues"
Who are you quoting?
>I'm talking about my hobbies being destroyed by people who are now crying for free speech
The gays? Your hobbies were always shallowly marketed products controlled by execs and editors. It's odd that you call this "ash censorship" by gays.
> were a genetic waste in the long run.
Like there aren't straight people who had kids that don't fit that bill.
>Can't say I've seen a lot of Stalinists lately
that's because all the cool commies are Anarchists now instead of Marxist Leninists.
>communism
>anarchy
pick one
Way to be stuck in the '80s daddy-o, all us hip young dudes these days are Trotskyites.
>and didn't say a word when the whitehouse put together anti-video game propaganda
Yes they did, but let me know when gaming outlets denounce Anita.
> What game was that? Pretty sure I would have heard of this on Yea Forums
Last of Us 2
>commies are Anarchists
I think I may have skipped that part of Das Kapital.
>when gaming outlets denounce Anita.
For what? Offending your delicate ego?
Intersectionality is a real thing that gets covered by conservatives. They know it's real and that it makes the left too diverse and unstable. But lol the left is the NPC hivemind too
>none of the were townies are explicitly homosexual
The black guy who owned the park (mr. smiley or what was his name again?) had a sad gay
episode. That episode was not funny and not important to the main plot at all. Dunno how "explicit" it was, but the intention was obvious.
I haven't watched much beyond the cluster and skimmed through townie crap, but there were many hamfisted progressive talking points and stuff like Steven's uncle being a prejudiced Trump supporter who should "get on with the timez". None of this is interesting for children, only landwhales on Tumblr, which is why lazy garbage like TTG ended up performing much better in viewer numbers - because it was for children and not 20 year old females/gays.
I can concede ground to the fact that not all of it felt forced and some of it was weaved nicely into the story, but this doesn't mean that many progressive diktats and LGBT-pandering weren't repeated ad nauseam.
Anita didn't call for censorship and actually spoke against it a year ago or so. In 2013, when she started making videos she even said that video games won't turn you into a raging misogynist. By that logic, you're calling for her censorship and the censorship of anyone offering critique.
I'm also not seeing anything regarding a sex scene in TLoU2.
IMO the entertainment factor from the episode about the uncle was less about him being a trump supporter, more about him being Carl from ATHF.
>The "free speech movement" isn't organizing against Bevin and didn't say a word when the whitehouse put together anti-video game propaganda. But it seems like you're concerned with the SJW gaze pointing out what's problematic which makes comics self censor
It's almost like there sin't a movement at all and only individual focusing on what they consider important.
Again, people spoke you against bevin, people lambasted trump when he spoke all of that bullshit.
Fuckign neocon ben shapiro spoke against violence censorship in video games when that bullshit came out. Not to mention all the other " free speech personalities" who are not "conservative".
>What game was that? Pretty sure I would have heard of this on Yea Forums.
Life is strange. It wasn't full out porn scene but neither were the ones in the Japanese games, many if which didn't even have any erotic content before you decide to install an off platform patch.
>The gays?
No the "progressives" and you are talking to more than one person mate.
Mr. Smiley had a gay episode? The one with his comedy partner wasn't about them being gay.
>prejudice Trump supporter
He is weird about aliens, but he didn't say anything about Trump.
You're looking for points of contention because you hate tumblr landwhales.
1. You say "So you're treating gays as a hivemind"
2. He engaged in whataboutism
3. you called out with ""no u" lol"
4. you have just admitted to me that the left (who came up with intersectionality) and the right put people in boxes
5. Hence his whataboutism is justified, because you just admitted to your double standards making what you said in 1. moot.
>But lol the left is the NPC hivemind too
I cringe at that meme and American conservatives are about as much of a hivemind as the progressives.
you seems to be conflating several different people who all think you are a moron.
Tumblr hated that episode
This conversation contains at least four different people.
Yeah the gems didn't lynch the uncle, because SU is based and redemptionpilled.
I dunno about games because I was never into gamer gate thing, but she did call for the censorship of the internet
unwomen.org
The initialism LGBTTQQIAAP (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, transsexual, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, ally, pansexual)
Remember when Tumblr whales were pissed the fuck off that the gems and uncle came to an understanding, instead of the gems killing the uncle for being himself?
That was funny.
Now you're nitpicking with me mentioning Trump, I was trying to say that he was essentially a cuckservative punching bag for the writers in those episodes.
I'm not going to use an 12 symbol initialism unless I can pronounce it as an acronym.
>It's almost like there sin't a movement at all
>You pointing to them and making it seems like the free speech movement is
?
The Arthur episode threads didn't have that "let's fight for free speech" energy Frank Cho threads had for some reason.
You mean Life is Strange 2? If fades to black and it opens up with awkward shame and apologies for the bad sex. It sounds like Steam is sensitive to the tone of these scenes which would make sense. What besides Rape Simulator got censored?
And yeah that makes sense. The guy who liked to laugh at the "LGBT community" as if they're the censors was off base.
Body shaming a young, flat woman. Tsk tsk.
He was just Carl saying "WHAT DID YA DO TO MY FRIGGIN BARN?!" You're grasping at straws.
99% or people don't care if you only use the first 4 or 5 letters. the remaining 1% are bigots who all make the same joke about there being too many letters.
its triggering because its HEY DID YOU KNOW DUMBLEDORE IS GAY-tier shit
What kind of idiot couldn't tell our bro Ratburn was gay?
From what I've read, that isn't as much censorship as it is creating an initiative to crack down on what was already supposed to be cracked down on. No, it's not "he hurt my fee fees online, lock him up" it's "he's threatened to rape and kill me, please take this seriously". But yes, police police prioritize threats of violence like this because the victim isn't in any immediate danger and investigating takes a lot of paper work when it's something over the internet. For example, a coworker of mine was receiving death threats on a nightly basis from multiple sources due to a family money dispute. The cops said it would take a few weeks to process and intervene, despite them saying she's going to die "real soon" and she was being watched to the point that they let her notice they noticed she put up a security camera. Now that was with showing cops the texts she had been receiving. Online harrassment and threats of violence is at an even lower priority and comes with even more red tape, as it should, but the system should probably be checked to see if there isn't a better way to help people being threatened. Most of it should be dismissed as trolling, but the serious instances shouldn't be roped in with the rest.
It's true. Look up the number of Christians killed every year and number of gays or trannies killed.
>Something didn't have the same energy as something else
> that means free speech supporters all hypocrites.
Come on now mate, you are moving the goalposts.
First nobody talked about it, now even though it was talked about it people were more passionate about other shit.
>you mean Life is Strange 2? If fades to black and it opens up with awkward shame and apologies for the bad sex.
It's still underage sex and IN THE GAME, not on an off site patch. There were severa but I can't remember many of the top of my head but this comes to mind
twitter.com
Again steam is getting SEEMS to better and less censorious towards games but those bans were still blatant hypocrisy. It's not a recent issue and it has been going on for a while now.
>it's Dumbledore even when it's not
If only Rowling had an openly gay character in the 90s be a father figure to a little boy. It would only be realistic as every straight acting gay I walk across tells me they're gay.
-I- have the time to think about because I'm not living in Africa or some other Brazil. This doesn't make african gays have worse deal than straight ones; an african gay doesn't need to think about his oppression to be more oppressed, he just needs to be hated by heteros while STILL living in a shithole.
You acknowledge that they are LGBT, but don't let it be the sole thing that defines their character.
That is some weird mental gymnastics you are making in order to make gays more victimized than regular people.
Being hated without action is not damaging. I could care less if half the world hated me as long as they didn't act on it.
And more Chinese are killed every year that Guatemalans. So?
This was about "the free speech crowd" initially, no specific movement. Of course not all free supporters are hypocrites.
And it's sex in a fade to black scene where the tone isn't attractive and it's actually funny in a sad way. Looking at images of Mutiny!! I can see how they saw the sexual overtones are more explicit and softcore, but yeah nothing that should raise alarms. I'm glad they're getting their shit together.
... unless it's Shore Leave.
>Being hated without action is not damaging.
Like this
>Bible says gays should die
>bible is important to western civilization
>gays had to fight against discrimination
>Alan Turning died a criminal
>gay marriage fairly new in the US and could change
>gay adoption still a point of contention
>homosexuality punishable by death in some countries
Yeah, there's no difference between the gay and straight experience.
>Being hated without action is not damaging.
No one doesn't take action. Voting, not voting are actions. Perpetuating hate is an action that leads to larger actions.
Who said there's no action? You think gaybashing needs some extraordinary energy?
>make gays more victimized than regular people
I don't need to do any "mental gymnastics", heteros have been victimising homos for literally millenia, this is what homophobia is.
Wisdom.
>Alan Turning
Turing. Whoops.
based
>Write for a completely normal person
>Just make them LGBT
>Literally do nothing else
Its not hard, just make them a normal part of the show, they become normal. When you spotlight that one part of them and no other part, they just become known for that one part of them.
legbut kwap
That more chinese are killed every year compared to Guatemalans
imagine being such a low iq brainlet that you need a character to be just like you for you to relate to them
Chinese are bugs. They will kill each other like an insect and move on.
Faggots are cancer killing them helps world overall.
ahem
fuck the gays and fuck rebecca sugar and fuck calarts
Only the last part is correct
Only the middle part is correct.
>blatant /pol/tard thread has been up for hours and hit bump limit
That was never the implication. Imagine being such a brainlet that you think that's all representation or this thread was about.
t. seething insectoid
/pol/ is the REAL oppressed minority :(
t. seething faggot
if you can't see the irony that dehumanizing lives can have terrible consequences, i don't know what to tell you
young democrats are notoriously stupid
aren't you supposed to hatch eggs for your queen at this hour?
>thinks im actually a chink
i don't actually think you're a faggot user but i do know you're an autistic sociopath
>Yeah, there's no difference between the gay and straight experience.
The modern concept of gay makes as much sense in a biblical lens as "I identify as a rapist and I demand rapist equal rights" given how for much of history it was just an action. It only became identity extremely recently.
>heteros have been victimising homos for literally millenia
No, people have been chastising an obscene act of free will for millenia. Fuck this identity shit. Should shoplifters consider their pilfering intrinsic to their very identity and being?
>seething