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I go on Yea Forums more for the Cartoons than the Comics. Can someone explain to me why everyone here seems to hate Bendis?

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Bendis? The Writer?

It’s an anti-SJW thing. I personally just hate him for ruining Jon Kent

You wouldn't know who Bendis even is if you were a cartoon-onlyfag
fuck off would you

Because he takes something people love and ruins it with terrible, repetative dialog, decompressed storytelling that usually has a poor pay off, continuity and characterization being ignored, and occasionally inserting really bad OC's for the sake of insert his personal politics/race fetishism that is disguised as SJW diversity pandering

No it’s not you moron
OP, Bendis is just a shitty writer who knows the right people. He has tennis court awkward dialogue, ignores canon constantly or simply makes up his own, and he keeps making OC creations for royalty money. His fetish for black characters is merely a symptom, not a cause. In fact he uses black characters as a means to shield from criticism. Most of his creations suck until another writer comes in to salvage them

Idk about his personality, but he's very arrogant as a writer. Whenever he gets his hands on a major book, the very first thing he does is destroy the status quo and shit all over the past 3-5 years' worth of stories to justify doing whatever stupid fucking shit he wants to write (see Avengers Disassembled, Uncanny X-Men vol3, Superman vol5, etc.)
tl;dr "I'm gonna break it so I have an excuse to fix it."

Because he can't write for shit but thinks he's the greatest.

Bendis is a writer who had a very small bag of tricks that he ran through in fairly quick order and a lot of really strong characteristic quirks in his writing that can annoy the hell out of people over repeated exposure

People tolerated him right until around issue 100 of Ultimate Spider-Man. By then he had run out of all his good will, but his career has continued onward ever since, only increasing in prominence/level of annoying

That being said, Mark Millar is worse

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New Avengers might have been a hamfisted attempt to turn the Avengers into a "Big Seven" style Justice League book, but nobody gave a shit about the Avengers before it happened either, so it wasn't entirely unjustified

And then the Avengers movie came out and revitalized the classic lineup, and nobody gave a shit about the New Avengers lineup, so y'know, sunrise, sunset

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Jon is an awful character who adds nothing of value to the Superman stable and turned the whole franchise into cutesy greeting card shit
>"You just want the comics to be edgy"
Absolutely not. I thought New 52 Supes was trash aside from a few standout angles (the first 10 or so issues of Action, the Hive storyline where Lois becomes psychic) but Jon was just as bad.

He's a very bad writer that keeps getting handed large events that change things for the worse.

not to mention his habit of creating young black typically female ocs who are better than whatever character he chooses to shit on in the instance

Because they saw oldfags hate him and want to look like they fit in despite not being around during his most egregious runs

Absolutely garbage books like Guardians of the Galaxy, Civil War 2 were only a few years ago. His presently terrible Superman run is still ongoing. You don't need to be an oldfag to hate bendis.

He’s currently pissing off Lanternfags

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Try to read any of the books he wrote in the last 10 years, OP.
Characters withoout a voice of their own, bad storytelling overall, bad humor, shitty concept etc. etc.

Keep her away from Hal.

10 million years in MS paint

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If he's that bad, why is he still here? Did he do like one "masterpiece" a long long time ago that gives him a freebie in the eyes of editors?
Or is it just that he's so outrageous that his clickbait sells anyway?

Yes. Bendis did a handful of critically acclaimed books that sold very well fifteen years ago, and he's been failing upwards ever since. He keeps getting handed bigger and bigger books because editorial thinks that his name will automatically equal sales, when in reality he's been sales poison for years now.

>Creates a self insert character who easily deduces Spider-Man's identity
>Makes his favorite X-Men girl fall in love with him
>Kills Ultimate Spider-Man just to replace him with a black & latino character who needs everyone to remind him he can be Spider-Man
>Revives Ultimate Spider-Man just so he can give him his blessings
>Destroys the Ultimate Universe meaning Ult Peter died twice now
>Puts Wolverine in the Avengers, despite having no issues with killing people
>Puts Spider-Man in the Avengers, despite being a character who likes to work solo
>Replaces Tony Stark with a young smart girl who forces her teacher to tell her she can't do anything just to prove her wrong (makes a lot of sense)
>Ages Jon for no reason thus ruining Supersons
>Creates perhaps the most unoriginal bad guy of the year: A big ugly guy who hates Krypton

The Writer.

Of comics?

Bendis is a decidedly mediocre writer who can actually be really good when he's writing certain very specific types of stories. Which would be fine, but he also has a ridiculous amount of influence in the entire comics industry and keeps getting to write stories he's absolutely awful at, ruining beloved characters as a result. Because of his influence he not only keeps getting away with it, but the changes he makes tend to last long after he's moved on to ruin someone else's favorite character.

AHAHAH IS HE REALLY JUST DOING RIRI 2.0

MY FUCKING SIDES

Bendis legit has an IQ of 90, cannot write and will take your money to shit on your fandom to make room for his OC donut steal.

But he doesn't cause problems at the office, turns out comics on time (because no effort goes into them) and has friends in high places so he'll keep getting handed A-list titles until the comic industry dies.

>His fetish for black characters is merely a symptom, not a cause. In fact he uses black characters as a means to shield from criticism.
>insert his personal politics/race fetishism

Shit like his obsessions with Kitty Pride and Luke Cage were definitely personal politics/fetish things, but his more recent obsession with adding little black girls who are the best at everything to his stories isn't about that at all. It's all about his two adopted daughters being black and him literally just inserting them into his comics as an ultimate Mary Sue.

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Bad writer plain and simple.

Superman Sales Said otherwise

I like Spidey as an Avenger but not Wolverine.

Avengers with Spidey works because keeping a lineup of "A-list solo book heroes with their own corner of the 'verse" is both what the Justice League is and what the Avengers attempted to be, and Spidey fits with that alongside Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, etc. Wolverine, as explosive (and deserving) as he is in popularity, was designed to be a team/ensemble hero when plucked and re-designed to be part of the X-Men.

He got critical acclaim for his crime comics in the 90's (Jinx, Torso), and then had a massive hit with Ultimate Spider-Man, and acclaim for his Daredevil and Alias runs. His Avengers divided the fanbase but sold well to make up for it. I think his biggest success after that was creating Miles Morales. I don't know how well his trade sales do so publishers may also take that into account.

>Jon is an awful character who adds nothing of value to the Superman stable and turned the whole franchise into cutesy greeting card shit
>>"You just want the comics to be edgy"
Conner Kent is still shit,

>Did he do like one "masterpiece" a long long time ago
That's how most of the current "old guard" got their popularity to be honest.

>Or is it just that he's so outrageous that his clickbait

This is more fitting of the character.
Also he has an ability to always go where the wind blows, nowadays Bendis would never write something like Alias, he wouldn't dare.
And unlike most of his "peers" his writing never evolved, but rather it became a parody of itself. You will not find any severe examples of "bendis talk" in his older works.

Why not have her hack the Chinese Knockoff Lanterns? Or the Emerald Empress's battery? Something that's not light years away from Earth.

Bad writer

Has this guy never heard of Mary Sue? Where's his self awareness?
This is impressive trolling, I must admit as a gl fan.

Or better yet, DONT HAVE A FUCKING TEENAGER “HACK” A DEVICE THEY CANT POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND

Wow, hold up, what kind of comics? Like super hero comics? The comics with super heroes? Those kinds of comics?
Bendis writes those kinds of comics?

How did Bendis fuck up at Marvel, anyway? I was so sure they were grooming him to be EiC eventually.

>I go on Yea Forums more for the Cartoons than the Comics.
You are why this place sucks

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they weren't grooming him to be EiC and he def didn't want to be in editorial

bendis' problem is that he became too big for his own good and his name protected him FROM editorial. he need people to reign him in but they didn't and because avengers sold everybody thought it was bendis when in reality it was DUDE SPIDER-MAN, IRON MAN, AND SNIKTBUB ON A TEAM, no shit it would sell

Well recently he ruined Lois Lane and Jon Kent. He also did Civil War 2. His Xmen and Guardians of the Galaxy runs are pretty controversial too.

>That being said, Mark Millar is worse
Millar has the business sense to follow his own path to publishing books, and was able to make a multimillion dollar industry out of it by farming Hollywood adaptations and original IPs. Bendis has his own IPs too, but besides Powers (which was so low budget and obscure it was a Sony streaming exclusive) Bendis has had nothing worthwhile to call his own.

>B-but Miles Morales and Riri!
They belong to Marvel.

Now Bendis is digging his legs in the sand over at DC. He will never create anything substantial there.

Yeah, the comics with the super people. But, you know, only the ones he likes, especially the black ones.

>Jon is an awful character who adds nothing of value to the Superman stable
Jon adds the "Robin" perspective to Superman books that no other canon character is able to reproduce. Kids can relate better to Jon. Jon establishes Superman as a legitimate and official father figure rather than an adopted one. We have seen Clark take on new riles in his personal life because of this. You may not like Jon, but he did add things to the stable nonetheless.

He tends to shape people's perceptions of a character when he ruins them, to such a degree the character can never truly recover.

Previous writers work is ignored and thrown in the trash.
Future writers can't fix the mess Bendis has made.
That's why his effect is so toxic.

>Future writers can't fix the mess Bendis has made.
I agree with most of what you're saying, but this is just wrong. It's not that they can't, it's just that they don't. A single run can't permanently ruin a character if future writers don't go along with it. There are plenty of examples of runs, even good ones, just being ignored and ending up entirely irrelevant in the long run. Yeah sure he can definitely ruin the character for a while, but unless future writers just follow along with whatever bullshit he set up, it doesn't take that long for a single run to fade out of the public consciousness. And while Bendis knows quite well how to pull certain strings (both with the publishers and the "normie" readers) to make his comics popular, very little of what he's done actually reaches the kind of character-defining classic status that has a true lasting impact. It's just that he's all-too-often followed up by writers that just go with the flow and don't make any real effort to ignore or fix the shit he fucked up.

Sure, Bendis has an uncanny ability to ruin characters with shit writing, a blatant disregard for canon (even his own canon), adding lame donut steels, and outright and deliberate character assassination in some cases, but there's nothing stopping other writers from ignoring Bendis' work just as hard as Bendis is ignoring everyone else's work. It's just that he's so influential and respected (within the industry, anyway) that other writers don't want to shit on his work the way he shits on other writers' work.

I actually like Bendis and enjoy most of his work.
He's got a two syllable last name though so that makes it fun to scream.

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I enjoyed some of this Avengers stuff, especially the New Avengers I think it was, during Dark Reign and all. I like those 'slice of life' type comics and I guess it was his doing. In hindsight maybe he had stronger editors sitting on him and directing his efforts, as time got on and he gained for freedom to do his own thing his OC's and his interpretations of old characters just became terrible until he was just ruining characters.

I basically all but abandoned Marvel for a time he had so much creative control and it was all so terrible. I was basically just down to reading Superman, and then...

>Hate Bendis

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nigga, do you even know who you're talking about? He's the master of Marvel, the king of comics, the future Editor-in-Chief. He has 2 shows based on his creations, Powers and Jessica Jones, and someday Mile Morales will be the next Spider-man in movies or TV.

Sorry mate, but Bendis is the King of Marvel. Those on Team Bendis will guard any and all storylines created by Bendis, or expand on it. I mean look at this shit

Once he finally runs Marvel, we will enter an era of Bendis continuity. As long as there's a franchise with a movie or TV show, it won't be safe from Bendis Continuity.

He's the future Editor-in-Chief of Marvel, and the other writers at Marvel know it. The ones that aren't with him are off doing Star Wars.

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You're late.

Where did you hide the time machine?

No, Bendis the maker of homemade jellies and jams.

if this could be done, why didn't literally anyone else do it first? lantern? brainaic?

>the time machine?
Poor guy obviously just came out of coma

The other main problem people don't bring up often in this thread, is his pacing. Sometimes it works. But other times things are needlessly dragged out.

Somebody please posts the
>This boys
>This boy?
>Me boy?
Page

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I don't get why so many people say some dumb ass shit like "Oh, Bendis is a hack but he's good at writing teens"
I'm sorry, but I don't see it.
Bendis sucks at writing, period. I mean, just look at the black kid's dialogue, it reads like a shitty character rundown.
>"An eleven year old who did [Amazing Thing] and they're from [Home town] [Country]"
Who the fuck talks like this? Who the hell says where their city is followed by country unprompted?
If shoehorning place of origin is really necessary then it should have been
>"I yeeted this directly from Green Lantern's power battery, all the way from La Paz."
>"La Paaz...?"
>"Bolivia."
>"k"

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Bendis. The Writer.

What was that name again?

Bendis.

Bendis?

Bendis.

Little happens, and it happens very slowly. Also he tends to build up to very little, and ignores plot or character threads that could have been interesting.

>Can someone explain to me why everyone here seems to hate Bendis?

His dialog is mostly a gimmick, and it's grating at this point for most of us.
He's a racist, as in he hates white people.
He constantly pushes black female/white male relationships in his narratives because of his personal weird obsession/fetish.
He constantly pushes social justice and identity politics in an extremely heavy-handed preachy way. In this he is no different the 95% of comic writers, but he's more famous so has more of a a voice and more leeway.

seee, that would have of conveyed more information, namely that she lives in a shithole no one knows about

>He has tennis court awkward dialogue
What does this phrase mean? Like a weird back and forth?

>you mean tennis court dialogue?
Tennis court dialogue.
>where we go back and forth?
Yes, where we go back and forth

besides his easily noticeable writing style, the dude's got a fetish
that's the only way I can put it
>every good Jewish girl is his waifu and receives top treatment (Kitty Pride and his Ultimate self-insert, KP dating Star Lord and then being a member of the Guardians)
>every new character he makes is a perfect, young black child who can do no wrong

Because it's always the same tropes. The perfectly virtuous, incredibly smart, (usually black) teenage wunderkind with no faults and no character flaws.

Riri is one of the worst characters in the history of the genre, but she serves an important purpose nonetheless; she is the epitome of all the mistakes he makes heightened and intensified to the highest degree. She is what you can point to when people say "Why do so many people hate Bendis?"

Some of his stuff, like his writing during illuminati, I will always enjoy. But at this point he has let his personal politics and obsessions pervade his work to the point he's become a caricature. Comics would be better off if he was hit by a truck tomorrow, and looking at it objectively maybe he would too.

Maybe I'm just autistic, but my problem with him is that he doesn't really seem to respect the legacy of the comic books that he writes. When he has free reign he can write some good stuff, Ultimate Spider-Man is one my favorite Peter Parker stories and Alias was great, but they both were in alt universes and weren't tied down by a legacy.
His x-men and guardians stories were awful though, because they ignored all of the history and legacy in order so he could do his take. Quill is alive after dying in the cancerverse because ???. Gillen left Cyclops in an interesting place with Mr. Sinister still out there and then BAM back to status quo bring back the original 5 while there is an ongoing X-men story about how time travel is awful.
He's ok when doing his own thing, but if you look at comic book writers as curators of a shared universe, he's awful.

Alias was in 616 and still used parts of Mainline Marvel but mainly the parts there wasn't a large enough fanbase to get upset about.

i think you guys are pricks.
Bendis seems like a cool guy.
I think your just mad cause he's just sort of average, maybe a little better than average.
He doesn't make huge flops and doesn't deliver blockbusters, he holds the line.
He wants to be great but he hasn't had that sort of 'breakthrough' moment, maybe cause he doesn't take a whole lot of chances or risks with his writing.
People don't always want some dramatic bullshit thats going to be wrapped up within a week. Some times people want a more episodic feel, someone who can pace themselves.

maybe he needs to do his own thing, make his own title that lets him just go nuts.

>assuming people don't shit on him every chance they vaguely get
I don't click on comic threads and i know that bendis is apparently a hack.

Is Bendis really taking that extreme of a position though? I mean the occasional jab to the left or right isn't a crime. From what I've read, he keeps it pretty light, tries to make his story universal. Just cause hes pushing for more diversity or you don't agree with his politics doesn't make him an insufferable cunt like Colbert or Rebecca Sugar.

its hard to preserve continuity over several runs. I don't think he means to shit all over cannon, i think maybe he just feels constrained by the canon and wants to try something a little different.

I mean have you ever tried to pick up a series that has so much established canon that you can't make heads or tails of it? Like Star Wars, or Warhammer? Thats what it must feel like to him, and i think its Bendis that is left picking up the pieces after other writers write themselves into a corner..

I mean, look. You got guys like Warren Ellis, and they are fantastic, their shit blows your minds. But those type of guys are mental, you never know what kind of story quality your going to get with them. Plus, investing that much time and energy and being that passionate about what they do, they get burnt out real quick, and sometimes they drop some real stinkers.

Everybody would probably like to write like Ellis, but not everybody can. Hell, even Ellis can't write like Ellis most of the time, mostly its just him turning out pages and dialogue and seeing what sticks.

He is capable of doing things that I really enjoy. Ultimate Spiderman, Miles Spiderman, House of M, Daredevil, and some of his X-Men stuff is good.

My problem is that he plays politics to get put on a ridiculous amount of books whether he's a fit or not, and always gets his friends jobs wherever he is.

> Writes Avengers when the movie gets big
> Writes Iron Man when the movie gets big
> Writes Guardians once the movie gets big
> Gets Kelly Sue hired for Aquaman
> Gets Matt Fraction hired for Jimmy Olsen

Shit like this also artificially inflates his sales numbers.

Well, I gotta admit I don't know the man personally, I have no idea what water cooler politics are like at Marvel.

Maybe you feel that there are other, more deserving authors who are getting overshadowed by his Big Name?

This Bendis? The one who wrote this?

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Zero literary or creative talent and has no respect for continuity or the legacy of other authors.

I think that it's cute in a vacuum, but if all of his writing is like this it would be very tiring indeed.

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Wait, so the black teen doesn't have her own powers, she's just... stealing them? So racist Bendis, why are your black "heroes" thieves?

That actually made sense, it's shortly after she got face-nuked by Hazmat in Avengers Arena. Her healing went back to normal next issue.

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