Alright, I think i've figured it out. So theres 2 universes, Universe A is where Little King John resides, Universe B is where Ratboy resides.
In Universe A, the Big Fish Boss was defeated by the galactic superheroes, but at a cost. They were most likely destroyed in the fight, leaving the 4 remaining heroes, Caveman on the Starship Genius and Sue, Fred, and George alone in a desolate world, where they eventually grew apart and distant. Meanwhile on Earth, Happyman and Green Monster went on their trip of the planet. This would explain, why the Starship Genius is on the planet during the flood when it was caused by The Big Fish Boss's eventual defeat, and why its near abandoned with only one man residing in it.
Universe B is where Ratboy resides with the rest of the crew from Universe B. In this universe, they haven't defeated the Big Fish Boss yet, and are still fighting him. But they want to prevent the flood, which is why they send Buck to go open a portal to Universe A, in which it's already flooded so it won't hurt anything in that universe. This would also explain, why even though Ratboy has seen John in minecraft before, they've never actually met. Because in the original series, we see that Ratboy has the power to go to different universes.
This all, also supports the theory that LKJ is Ratboy from Universe A, in which he lost everyone he loved and went insane on earth
I'll never forget the moment I realized Ratboy had some deep lore to it. I laughed for like 5 minutes, shits kino.
Logan Lee
THERES NO ONE AROUND IM WEARING MY CROWN AND MAKING SOME SOUND I SEE TREES AND BEES AND KNEES IN THE SEAS PLEASE DONT SNEEZE THE BREEZE WILL FREEZE what did he mean by this?
Jonathan Green
I still always presumed the split began when we first saw him using the computer and seeing him as his old 2D traditionally animated self from the first few episodes, with the rest being fanfic about his own life..
Ryan Reyes
This is tails gets trolled levels of writing for tying shit together.
>That scene in Episode 12 with the super heroes fighting the Big Fish Boss was what happened in Universe B Also don't forget, that the Flood happens because of the Big Fish Boss being defeated, and in the episode with the catterpillar minister Ratboy says, "We know we have defeated the Big Fish Boss, and we know, because it has already happened".
This shits deep yo Ryan needs to fucking tell us how George lost his arms and why the Galactics Superheroes all hate eachother on Mars
John > Ratboy > HappyMan > Green Monster > Mr Big Arms > Big Fish Boss > George > Sue > Fred > Clyde > HooHoos > Finger Head > POWER GAP > Summer Solstice Baby
Aiden Stewart
Young Mouthbottom is top tier
Charles Richardson
>just rewatched the flood and starship genius yesterday >thread about it pops up everytime
This is all kind of reaching isn't it? We know a lot about both universes, lkj's was created by the cosmic thunderbolt and shouldn't have the big fish boss or others in it, it's not a separate timeline. And I thought happyman and green monster's adventure on red planet was just a kingdom studios production and being galactic superheroes was their real profession. ratboy has met john in minecraft in the dream, which I guess was just them traveling to his dimension. It all seemed pretty straight forward to me. Only thing that I don't understand is how caveman got there or how the galactic superheroes have a base in the minecraft dimension. I also think that lkj might not be originally from the minecraft dimension considering that he can manipulate it at will like Ratboy could and considering that everyone else non-minecraft is from the original dimension.
>Summer Solstice Baby She really is the shittiest character by far.
David Carter
Because, as OP explained. In LKJ's universe, the Galactic Super Heroes were successful in defeating the Big Fish Boss. This is what caused the Flood, the Flood doesn't happen immediately, its a release of energy that takes decades to full flood the entire continent, thats why Ratboy said, "The starship has been flooding since the beginning of time". Caveman is one of the Galactic Heroes from Universe A, whom decided to stay to guard Starship Genius. In Universe A, everything we're seeing now, already happened. The heroes were successful in defeating the big fish boss and the flood occurred due to the massive released of energy upon his defeat. What's unknown, is why the Galactic Super Heroes ended up on Mars, why George lost his arms, and why they all hate eachother.
Universe A is what already happened, Universe B is what's happening currently. Universe B is aware of Universe A because of Ratboys powers to go to other Universes for short periods of time. Their entire plan for the Big Fish Boss is resting on the fact that they can redirect all the energy to Universe A which is already flooded, and not risk flooding Universe B
William Reyes
>sue that low >no caveman, young mouthbottom,or professor c'mon now
The Flood > Starship Genius > Galactic Super Heroes > Ratboy Dreams Minecraft > Happyman on the Red Planet > Happyman and Green Monster > Ratboys Kingdom
>tfw George saved the fucking universe and lost his arms in the process >Everyone still hates him and thinks hes annoying George.... had a hard life
Liam Brooks
i'd switch galactic superheroes and red planet personally they're all good though. Flood and Starship genius are just on another level music and story wise, of course
Joseph Cruz
Maybe Big Fish Boss just rips off George's arms.
Henry Hughes
Has anyone listened to the interviews with Ryan on his channel? Something of note to me is that he considers Happyman his best work, and is actually holding off finishing it because he thinks he doesn't yet have the skill to do it justice.
Josiah Turner
It's been awhile since I've last watched the opera. Maybe I should rewatch it. I wonder if he'll ever follow through on actually getting more people to do voices for his characters. I personally prefer him just doing it on his own.
Daniel Brooks
Shitty accent, but fun to bully.
Jack Collins
and is cute
Jacob Hughes
Been enjoying the steady stream of RBG threads lately. Let's keep this one going
I don't actually think this is the best but this dude's animatics are amazing.
Justin Robinson
I like how the instruments fill the role of the vocals when they're not present in that one.
youtu.be/_MNi8l0xp_c The more contemplative music when he happens on the portal is quite nice.
Adrian Brown
>almost gets Happyman and friends killed >has a tard tantrum when they're reasonably slighted and kidnaps Bob, forcing him to live on a cliff to be George's friend The character George plays in the opera is a serious sperg, so it's no surprise people don't like him. I still think he's cute
His latest video is currently my favorite. The scope of it is great and the music complements that. Can't wait for the finale which better be fucking soon. youtube.com/watch?v=OjmAYJU9E9A
>tackles the shit out of Fingerhead >"I'm George" >"You have a nice shiiiiiip" George really isn't all there, is he?
Grayson Barnes
George lost his mind when he watched his comrades get cut down by The Big Fish Boss, it only deteriorated when he lost his arms to save his friends.
Aaron Phillips
People are saying the Happyman Opera is just a production put on by Ratboy Genius but, just look at what happened to Little King John who we thought was a simple dream of Ratboy's. The power of Ratboy's imagination and it's connection to other worlds/timelines can't be trusted.
Nicholas Gutierrez
>goes to san francisco >doesn't show off the rampant homeless and street shitting wtf ratboy
LKJ did nothing wrong, everything he does is to help his kingdom. He's the most selfless man in the entire ratboy universe
Colton King
Do most of his characters even have much of a personality? A lot of them feel samey.
Owen Diaz
Sounds like it's shaping up to be his magnum opus then. I wonder what'll be revealed?
Austin Rivera
LKJ is an asshole Ratboy is reasonable Summer Solstice exists for the pussy Green Monster is cultured Fred, Sue, and George are all friends Happyman is always happy
>Little King John constantly refers to the people of his kingdom >We never see people who actually live in his kingdom >In the end, LKJ will bring his entire kingdom of like 5,000 people to fight alongside ratboy against the Big Fish Boss it's lookin like kino is back on the menu boys
Hudson Jackson
>started watching this show This shit feels like a fever dream
Blake Bennett
Does red planet take place before or after starship genius
Easton Price
Canonically? Takes place after However, in order it came out before.
Elijah Watson
That's my absolute favorite too. Fantastic expressive melody, and its role in the story has that wistful, imagination-piquing tone that's my favorite thing about RBG.
Julian Bailey
>came for the potato knishes >stayed for the magic and the mystery
Why don't happyman, and green monster recognize the galactic superheros though?
Dominic Hall
Now see, I'm not sure. I think it's supposed to be more of a side story outside of the main timeline. Like, it'd certainly take place after Galactic Superheroes, but that's about the fact that in Starship George still has his arms and Green Monster and Happy Man don't recognize the GS makes me think that Red Planet isn't supposed to be in the main timeline. Unless I'm missing something.
Kayden Cooper
Bump for more kino ratboy
John Adams
i love how epic the theme of the galactic super heroes sound here considering that they theme song his melancolic
Jaxson Cox
Little King John seems to revel that his kingdom has no actual inhabitants. He probably just likes owning the land.
Xavier Powell
Bump because I wanna finish a drawing.
Oliver Cooper
To be fair, if I had all that land to myself I'd be pretty ecstatic, too.
Caleb Campbell
Because it's just a stage production? There was an entire episode dedicated to it, user.
>started watching in 2014 >thinking "what the fuck is this? some autistic kiddy shit?" >5 years later i'm deeply invested in the stories, characters, and fantastic music What a ride it's been.
Jacob Russell
aren't these things his people? what the fuck are they even supposed to be?
Because Caterpillar Minister sees the larger picture. The important thing was that Little King John had grown into a person who would care if RBG and his friends were safe. "[His] first step to becoming a Galactic Friend." And now Little King John will accomplish greater things in his efforts to discover himself what became of Starship Genius.
Charles Davis
I WANT MORE CONTENT NOW
Jack Sullivan
It'll get released when you're on your deathbed.
Aaron Collins
It can't be long now. The real great wait is going to be after the finale is released.
Isaac Ortiz
i like that the guy is a music phd, but i wish he kept the stuff unrelated off his channel, ruins the immersion
Jaxon Flores
you can't rush perfection
Parker Fisher
What immersion? There is no conceit with Ratboy Genius, Ryan Dorin isn't pretending to be someone else when he posts it. Ratboy Genius just is.
Jason Perez
He is very cute.
Thomas Peterson
>go on his twitter >see he posted some centrist shit >mfw
You already posted my favorite so I'll go with Flood Part 4. youtube.com/watch?v=DET4g0bLUBQ I really like how the song starts to pick up when the Hoo Hoos refuse LKJ at first. The instruments in that part really help the Hoo Hoos sound sinister.
Andrew Phillips
>supposed to be drawing >play some RBG eps in the background >end up watching the entire series over again with no process on the drawing Fuck.
Ah, the song of the Hoos. They seem like real shitbags. Fingerhead was right.
Jaxon Russell
>I have no more friends and I have no more family >I'm alone. S-Same.
Oliver Brown
>In the finale, Ratboy Genius stretches to save LKJ >LKJ questions how Ratboy can use HIS stretching powers >Turns out they're originally Ratboy Genuis' powers >LKJ is revealed to be a fallen Ratboy >In the finale, LKJ ascends back to his former glory. The combined strength of two Ratboy Genuises prevails
This is my new headcanon
Caleb Hughes
See but Ryan in his blog even raised questions relating to the Galactic Super Heroes series, hell he even directly says they are the same. Which means happyman on the red planet IS in fact canon to the main storyline.
Luke Campbell
I wonder what the chances of John actually being Ratboy is. A lot of people have already made theories revolving around it, but seeing Ryan actually make it canon in the finale (or some later series) would be pure sex.
Yep. They even broke their promise to let Old Fingerhead when they were on the ship. Although that was only a smaller part of the fact they were stowing away at all.
William Gomez
>see this thread >decide to checkout this Ratboy Genius stuff >watch the episode in order for about 30 min >still just nonsense random events and nothing more
What the fuck?
Ayden Evans
Oh god, and the most popular video in the series is that weird potato knishes thing, someone please redpill me in this ratboy thing already
Brody Hughes
keep watching. it'll make sense eventually. and if it doesn't, then rewatch it until it does
Christopher Rodriguez
Oh boy, we got a fresh one. Well the Ratboy Genius Kingdom episodes are pretty slice of lifey, not much of a story there. There's no real harm if you skip it, but it's nice to see where most of the characters debuted. The real story starts with Ratboy Dreams Minecraft. The story goes - Ratboy Dreams Minecraft > Little King John: The Flood > Starship Genius. Make sure to watch Galactic Superheroes as it sets up events for The Flood and a major part of Starship Genius. Happy Man and the Red Planet is a nice little side story that isn't really canon but it's pleasant nonetheless. Like said if you keep watching it'll make sense. If you don't enjoy it that's fine. I just feel that once you get past the crude animation the stories, characters, and music are really pretty great.
Sebastian Price
So what's the core conceit that I need to get past to enjoy it? It seems interesting in an "outsider" art kinda way, but it's made by a doctor of music so it's not just some kid making art to be creative.
Gavin Martin
The music is legitimately great so you just enjoy it.
And the stories are mysterious and give just enough interest to elevate the music
Jace Cooper
The visuals and mannerisms of the characters are the only things that I think someone would have to adjust to.
Music people get a high from music, so they have to move into ever more bizarre stuff to get that high as they become desensitized to what people consider “good” music. Soon enough, you find them listening to the droning of refridgerators in an ice warehouse filled with crickets while a man plays a didgeridoo in the background.
So what video would you recommend to show someone to introduce them to Ratboy Genius?
Jason Wilson
Potato Knishes
Joseph Allen
Probably the first episode of Ratboy Dreams Minecraft. They'll get to Potato Knishes in the second episode anyway. After that part of the episode is out of the way they'll start to realize it's not all lolsorandum and that there's actually a plot in there.
Isaiah Walker
But did you also come for the little black squash balls?
Roxy/The Heartaches, The Boys, and He-Hog are the only ones that I can see being appealing in any way. The rest of these just seem too random and out there.
Matthew Collins
Ratboy's goodbye to Clyde was even worse
Adrian Peterson
Man, I wish it would just come out already. I know it takes time, but I'm just so eager it hurts.
Henry Lewis
My castle is underwater My yacht is a heap of scrap.
But I have, the world on tap! I turn up the tap and create a new map!
Matthew Johnson
Deaspite it being TTS, those lines still feel like they're delivered with emotion.
With scenes like that and Part 6, I always imagine the scale is supposed to be much grander visually than what Ryan is able to do in minecraft.
Nolan Wilson
I honestly can't imagine RBG without the TTS. It just fits the characters so well. You can still tell how they feel despite how monotonous their speech is.
Jonathan Brown
Well thank you guys for giving me the tips but I watched most of it and I hated pretty much te whole thing, can't get my head arround how peopIe can enjoy that "weird for the sake of being weird" thing. But no judgment for people who do enjoy it, just different tastes, I guess, maybe if I ever played minecraft things would be different.
I mean, the weirdest parts are the visuals. Yes, the designs and animation are indeed odd and crude but that's more a barrier to entry or "casual filter" than the main point of it all, for the later series at least. Starting with Ratboy Dreams Minecraft there's actually a pretty cohesive story going on. But if you didn't enjoy, that's fine. It's not for everyone. Thank you for giving it an honest chance at least.
Ryan Richardson
>Starting with Ratboy Dreams Minecraft there's actually a pretty cohesive story going on.
I did see Minecraft to the end and I don't know if that's the right way to put it. Sure you have a begining, a middle and an end, "ratboy went to save his GF from the king who kidnapped her, but her friends helped her scape first, the end" but the whole thing was very loosely explained. I'm sure that expecting a intricate plot with carefuly crafted plot points is probably not the right mindset to watch it, but I could not shake it off, again, probably just not my thing. I did enjoy one or two song thou.
Hunter Adams
>but the whole thing was very loosely explained Sounds kind of like a dream.
