Justice League and Avengers

Batman would join both teams so he could play both sides, in case he'd need one team to take out the other,
He'd still need to form the Outsiders since there's no way the Avengers would let him boss them around.
Batman and Iron Man would hate each other at first but would later bond over their control freak tendencies. I could totally see Bruce enlisting Tony to help him build Brother Eye.

Cadmus. Make it Cadmus for DC.

And Guardian is just a Cap clone.

>The two idiots with the help of Pym and Korg combine Brother eye and ultron

Avengers for Earth and JL for space is best

This.

Avengers are based in New York, are government funded by UN type organization, and deal with supervillains around the world.

JLA is based on the moon and deal with alien invasion and space gods.

There is a little bit of overlap, Thor and Carol are likely to be JLA members while Batman and Flash are more Avengers.

JLA is sponsored by UN and generally act globally

Avengers are certified by USA and generally act mainly on US soil

USA distrust the JLA and believes the Avengers should be their PMC dogs

the JLA(mostly Batman) fears the Avengers are just the Plausible Deniability arm of the US gov. Gyrich does not help.

the Avengers are both a little envious and worried about the JLA having so much power with so little legal constraints.

Hollie and Clint HATE each other with a fiery passion.

Funny how the Pentagon actually stopped funding the Avengers movie because they had an issue with SHIELD. Joss made it seem like the U.S. government answered to SHIELD and not the other way around.

Shouldn't it be the other way around? I mean, it's the Justice League of AMERICA, and there are a TON more international Avengers members

They should have ditched the AMERICA part in the first place and just make it the JL or add 'of Earth' to make it more PR friendly

If Flash was on the Avengers it'd make Quicksilver leave because he'd be getting constantly dabbed on.

The Justice League is the official, UN-approved council of heroes that are kind of the de facto leader of all the heroes. They have meetings and votes and stuff.

The Avengers are a privately funded team that basically are on duty 24/7. They live in the mansion. Their roster isn't the most powerful heroes, it's just whoever has the time and dedication to be on the team. They're like first responders.

Shit this thread makes me wish for another crossover

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Me too, as long as their is Cap x Wondy shipping I'm game

Ignore Cap being taller than Wondey

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Batman would be an Avenger while Thor goes to the JLA

Makes me think how the JSA and Invaders would form and if Steve Rogers would take the role of Trevor in Themyscira during WWII.

Avengers are, by and large, okay with killing people
The Justice league, by and large, is not.

They're two groups with the same goals but different means. They largely have a good working relationship

If we're going the whole WWII route, then Steve wouldn't have dated Diana, but rather Hippolyta, who acted as Wonder Woman during the WWII and was a member of the Justice Society of America.

Unless they go with Diana being long lived route which hinestly I rather have.

It's very easy to build from that. Steve was doing loads of weird war stuff in the big one. I can see SHIELD calling in Diana when Steve escapes after being defrosted to help calm him down
>Steve looks up and see her, floating in the air gently stopping in front of him
>Exactly the same as all those years ago

That's only in the movie, though. Even now in the comics Diana is young.

I know but I like the idea of Diana being active in WWII and being in the JSA like she originally was nore than Hippolyta.

Diana being that long lived is strange. Not to mention that it wrecks her dynamic with the Justice Leaguers. That's why they turned Hipollyta into the WWII Wonder Woman.

historically the Avengers always been more tied to the American government, in spite of the international members.
Hell, them having foreigners in their ranks has been the point of a few stories

likewise the Justice League dropping "of America" from their name.

Ollie is convinced they are a covert PMC of Stark to do the bidding of the US gov

Batman and Black Panther infiltrating the Avengers at the same time would be hilarious

Invaders would still be in Europe, JSA would be the US Homeland Security team

Invaders are all SCIENCE-based, therefore immune to the Lance of Longinus so it makes sense.

>Avengers are, by and large, okay with killing people
they aren't.
Avengers don't kill. It's why pre-Bendis they would have never got Wolverine onboard, and why Hawkeye was angry at Mockingbird

Superhero Girls Diana is a young girl of only 347 years

>If we're going the whole WWII route, then Steve wouldn't have dated Diana, but rather Hippolyta, who acted as Wonder Woman during the WWII and was a member of the Justice Society of America.

Implying Steve is above dating the younger relatives of past girlfriends

>Batman and Black Panther infiltrating the Avengers at the same time would be hilarious

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Not a huge loss

Thor would absolutely be on the JL, but Bats would be on both

It's really not since Amazons are long lived and I don't see how it would disrupt her dynamic with the Justice League. She's always shown as being wise and the worst is when they make her the naive newbie girl. Also Hippolyta being WW before Diana is awful, it should be Diana's identity.

Be honest, you only want it because you like the idea of Cap fucking Wonder Woman. So she has to be long lived or otherwise it wouldn't fit.

>Amazons are long lived
Inside the island, not outside of it.

and what about Herc?

I totally want DC Hyppolita turning into her Marvel version whenever Herc is involved, to much shock of everybody

I thought the matchups were wrong. They should have battled their counterpart

Batman vs ironman
Cap vs superman
Wonder woman vs thor
Martian manhunt vs ?? Hulk?

>Ollie is convinced they are a covert PMC of Stark to do the bidding of the US gov

>I could probably tolerate Ollie's trust fund leftism and kneejerk douchebaggery if he'd just stop sending Ghost "Get Well Soon" cards after every fight

Cap counterpart is Batman, not Superman.

>Cap vs superman

that's not even remotely fair

Yeah, Superman would definitely lose like a little bitch.

>Batman and Black Panther infiltrating the Avengers at the same time would be hilarious
That's golden. For some reason, I can see the pair getting along with maybe T'Challa backing Batman Inc.

Batman/ironman = rich human gets power from their intelligence

Cap/superman = moral leaders of their teams, inspire confidence

WW/thor = heroes from myth

There's no 1 to 1 power comparisons.its more the role they play within team

>Avengers don't kill.
That's false and you know it. Especially when you have Thor on the team. Outright killed a self-proclaimed god by pushing him into a magic demon god's sun.

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Batman and Captain America are pretty much the same person, both in different universes. Hell, through the magic of memes they even go through similar arcs at the same time. Take for example Bucky and Jason Todd coming back from the dead or Cap and Batman "dying" and traveling through time.

Ollie hates Stark but is fine with IM
Clint hates IM but is fine with Stark

Tony wonders what he did to deserve this life

they fake getting along but actually do get along!

that' post-Bendis Aaron.
It's basically non-canon.

Also every iteration of Carol has a body count

>Ollie hates Stark but is fine with IM
>Clint hates IM but is fine with Stark

>Tony wonders what he did to deserve this life
How do Clint and Ollie react to the truth?

>they fake getting along but actually do get along!
>Everyone thinks they hate each other's guts

>that' post-Bendis Aaron.
Are you seriously this retarded? Thor has killed pre-Bendis and Aaron as well.

I'd read it

I mean even supes kills alien villains.

I mean, when isn't he murdering?

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Aliens, demons, and robots don't fall under the "No Kill" rule

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All aliens in disguise.

>only one neck
Those are rookie numbers compared to WW

Quicksilver would definitely have access to the Speedforce it they exist in a shared universe on a shared Earth. Which will further reinforce the narrative that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch being Magneto's children as retarded. Seeing as how Quicksilver would be a natural born Speedforce user and Scarlet Witch being the avatar of a Fallen Elder God.

Making it Justice League Unlimited, just like the show would have been better in order to show the scope and members the JL can have. But given the direction of the comics, it's bettet they never co-opted that and the name remains untarnished.

Isn't Diana supposed to be like 1.85m tall while Steve is near 2m and buff as barrel chested Supes?

>All those crossovers
My neggro

Jesus fuck, Thor just "honorably kills" people in battle, this is just outright sadistic murder.

Who wrote this?

Tony favoring his government buddies that give him all the best military contracts

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That guys Thor killed isn't an alien though. Just a powerful human mutant that got enhanced by Celestial science.

Wonder Woman is canonly only 6'0" while Steve is canonly 6'2".

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What's Marvel villains that also interested in Anti-Life Equation?

Thanos is a literal darkseid ripoff so him

Fine have her not fuck Cap and still keep her in WWII, happy?
Doesn't that depend on the continuity?

Yeah she's not Big Barda, she's tall but not THAT tall.

Sauce?

Didn't Cap and Batman get along in the JLA/Avengers crossover? Or at least they were the two members who were able to shake whatever was influencing them and noticed they were being manipulated.

Yeah, at this point all of the Avengers have body counts. Maybe Spidey has a no kill rule but most of them drop bodies if the villain is dangerous.

What use is it to him? Can't the Mind Stone can do everything the A-LE can

That's stupid, he can still fuck her even if she isn't long lived. Long lived Diana is just interesting.

>Cap vs superman
Do you want Cap to die?

So if Marvel & DC are in the same universe, does that mean that there also Earth-2 equivalent?

If it works like intended thanos could skip looking for the stones and just command everyone to suicide

Id guess the avengers would remain the main team but with D.C. characters. Dudes like Superman and batman are too busy for full time team stuff so Remaining JL roster would get rolled into avengers

That is what I meant, not the clone part, but Cadmus and Guardian and all the other parallels could make their own Avengers parralel. But we have War Maker One and the Ultramarines.

omg the sex would be so real

What about Cosmic? How will the GL and Space Knights get along?

Steve would be strong enough to not break when so goes on him hard but weak enough that he would bruise and feel it the next day.

Space Knights would govern and protect their own sector of space without the interference from the Green Lantern Corps and tell them to stay out of their sector of space. Green Lantern Corps would agree to the terms in order to avoid a potential war against them.

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What about the Nova Corps?

Dead like always, Rich is the last one. Maybe Sam is around.

I like this.

Avengers: The Origin #5 by Joe Casey. It's a five issue retelling of the Avengers #1.

This has been bugging me for some time. See pic? It's from JLA/Avengers crossover. Ok so who is the Aztec looking guy fighting Ziran the Tester?

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>How do Clint and Ollie react to the truth?
one of the few things they agree upon: fuck him.

>>>they fake getting along but actually do get along!
>>Everyone thinks they hate each other's guts
Except Alfred, who is happy master Bruce made a friend, and Jarvis, who Alfred trusts entrusting Bruce while in the Avengers mansion.
Jarvis and Alfred quite agree with each other, except for some smaller things which they purposely blow out of proportion to have fun with the reactions of their hosts

not on Avengers business.

>>Quicksilver would definitely have access to the Speedforce it they exist in a shared universe on a shared Earth
no, no, he'd be the ONLY speedster without access to the Speedforce.
it would irritate him as few things, but also work in his advantage when dealing with villains used to speedforce bullshit and not ready for, say, FRICTION.

he actually does not, but everybody think he does.
Also, it's fun to remember for most of their existence the Avengers were second string to the F4

the Dweller in the Darkness, maybe.
Thanos, but mostly as a curiosity. He would also find it wrong because that's a reality where shit like Speedforce Bullshit is a thing, and generally would dislike anybody trying to use it because a life unworthy to be lived makes Death meaningless too.

>Maybe Spidey has a no kill rule but most of them drop bodies if the villain is dangerous.

>Maybe Spidey has a no kill rule but most of them drop bodies if the villain is dangerous.
it was a point in the past month's issue of Daredevil.

Real question is the bigger empires and the Nova Corps.

Basically, the Nova Corps would be given jurisdiction over the GLs as the default "third party police" by many local authorities because many don't trust the Guardians

the bigger empires would refuse both as a rule, but would occasionally collaborate over bigger bullshit

Everybody would coordinate and collaborate with the Spaceknights over Wraith affairs, though- except most Kree, because they are dicks.

Hunab of the Millennium Giants
perez.comicbookseries.info/news/whoisziranthetesterfightinginjlaavengers2

Gonna post a few combined universe ideas

>Wonder Woman and Hercules are half-siblings thanks to Zues, they team up for adventures sometimes - Herc is full on Marvel Hercules
>Cyborg Superman's origin was an atempt to recreate the FF's accident - blames Reed Richards just as much as Superman for his fate
>Bang Babies were created by an experimental gas that triggers X-gene mutation in non-mutants so Static is technically a mutant leading to some X-men crossovers
>Wakanda and Gorilla City have been in a sort of cold war for millenia - Umbaku is an actual Gorrilla

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M'baku
I should've looked that up rather than try to do it from memory

>Jarvis and Alfred quite agree with each other, except for some smaller things which they purposely blow out of proportion to have fun with the reactions of their hosts
They fight over how to properly prepare tea like any good Englishman
>it would irritate him as few things, but also work in his advantage when dealing with villains used to speedforce bullshit and not ready for, say, FRICTION.
>People forget without Speedfoirce QS is made of iron and people would break their hands on his skin

What about the Society of Raptors?

>>Wonder Woman and Hercules are half-siblings thanks to Zues, they team up for adventures sometimes - Herc is full on Marvel Hercules
Her was DC Herc at the age of myths, but got chiller and became Marv Herc over time(and death of his family)

Vibranium being the source of the Gorillas intellect mutation makes sense.

And 'Mbaku's tribe as the frontline against them

Alfred and jarvis served together in the war

This is doin a lot for my dick

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Like the Static mutant idea, maybe BBs are Mutants and Metahumans since many are quite powerful?

>GA and Hawkeye regularly have archery fundraisers every once and a while, they have to deal with Deadshot and Bullseye sneaking in to ruin everyone's fun
>Fate and Strange don't exactly get along. They won't say why
>Shocker is a fairly frequent Rogue of Batman, do to the fact e's one of the more powerful rogues in New Jersey. Much like with Spidey he has a impressive win streak against the Dark Knight
>One time the Sinister Six decied to go to Gotham to take it over after getting beaten by Spidey again
>Bat was out of town so it was up to the rest of the Batfam to save the day
>Bat revealed he orchestrated it all as a test for the kids
>WW: Do you remember this one from when we first fought?
>Cap: I thought that was the leg lock around my head?
>Tony: You lucky bastard.

Modern writers would likely make Peter Parker and Ted Kord best buds due to Ditko connection

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>One time the Sinister Six decied to go to Gotham to take it over after getting beaten by Spidey again
>Bat was out of town so it was up to the rest of the Batfam to save the day
>Bat revealed he orchestrated it all as a test for the kids
That's fucking stupid. The Sinister Six is way too powerful for Batman too take on as a group. Even a single one of them would be too much for Batman. Expecting the Batfamily to be capable of taking them on is just as stupid.

I really like the idea that the stars on Diana's costume were inspired by Cap

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>They fight over how to properly prepare tea like any good Englishman
which makes much funnier for them because nobody remembers Jarvis is not a speck brit.

>People forget without Speedfoirce QS is made of iron and people would break their hands on his skin
This- also, it's much harder to steal his speed because he has no Speedforce connection but he has much more speed than normal people.

>What about the Society of Raptors?
same as in 616, secret Shi'ar order.
Might or might not have been involved with the Manhunters, though.
Maybe a Shi'ar attempt to recreate Manhunters for themselves?

They also met Logan back then, and disliked him as much as they dislike him now.

Richard&Mary Parker have been assigned to protect the Waynes, once- Thomas was the one who diagnosed Mary was pregnant.

Hyppolita'ìs sexuality was messed up by what Herc did in the Myths, but Steve healed her. Some.
it resulted in the usually gentle, stoic, just, wise and calm Hyppolita going full yandere for Herc whenever he's involved(like Marvel Hyppolita), especially once he shows he became a better man.

>>Shocker is a fairly frequent Rogue of Batman, do to the fact e's one of the more powerful rogues in New Jersey. Much like with Spidey he has a impressive win streak against the Dark Knight
Mostly because his modus operandi is not caring whatsoever about the Bat and just running away with the loot
he became friend with Kite-man and introduced him to Beetle(Abe) because their shared interests in aerodynamics

Mysterio, Clayface and the Joker have their own get-along at the Bar With No Name once in a while, where they discuss movies and plays.
They post the results of their discussion in a very successful blog under a shared pen-name

Spidey would end up being the straight guy in the wacky adventures of The Blue&The Gold
Thinks Spider-man\Deadpool, but with less murder.

I'd like to see the relationship between the Thunderbolts and the Suicide Squad. Which villains get pressganged for which team?

was the original X-Force the Suicide Squad of Marvel?

Good question. Suicide Squad is for the more dangerous, psychotic villians. The ones who have rap sheets several arms long and no remorse.

Thunderbolts is like rehab/community service fore villains that do want to change. Unless you're talking about the original TBs? I could see Deadshot on the TBs since he's quite stable and has a code of sorts. Catman too. Their is likely tiers for the group in modern times ranging from Street to JL if need be

The Thunderbolts are generally considered more powerful than the Suicide Squad. Especially with the fact that the Thunderbolts have legit superhumans on the team while the Suicide Squad usually have people that are barely superhuman on the team. Its not even a contest if its the Genis-Vell incarnation of the Thunderbolts.

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remender

Thank you.

Avengers take on more former villains and morally ambiguous types the JL wouldn't.

genisfags ruin everything

How would Luthor handle finding out Tony is Iron Man?

Luthor would probably get along with stark

>Spidey would end up being the straight guy in the wacky adventures
basically Mego Spidey in TTT
I could see Peter working for Kord, could be after the spider accident that gave him power in lets say this happened at Oscorps

Would be sweet to see Darkseid travel to the Dark Dimension to see if the Mindless Ones had secrets to the Anti-Life Equation. Dormammu and Darkseid would be killer.

also Tony does always favor the side of the government see Civil War.

Because the Avengers (with some little exceptions) won't qualify to be a Leaguer.

>rehab/community service fore villains
I'm familiar with this angle, but can someone elaborate on the original line up?

True, I'll concede to that point

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Alright a crossover is really cool but what about a fusion?
Amalgam took more from the X-Men than the Avengers and a JL Avengers fusion will be very different from what we had back then.

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What sort of cosmic shenanigans could happen in this hypothetical DC/Marvel shared universe? Some weird ones from the top of my head

>Xandarians and Lantern Corps have a NATO-like alliance in a constant cold war with Kree, Shi'ar, etc

>Dr. Strange and Dr. Fate often team up to take down interdimensional incursions

>A symbiote merges with Mogo to fight Galactus

I will forever ship RobinxJubilee

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>Darkseid teams up with the Avengers and JL to stop Thanos
>Even HE can't deny how powerful Thanos would be
>No one likes this arrangement but can't really say no, Darkseid doesn't care for their opinions
>Deadpool and Lobo go on a cosmic roadtrip
>Amazo shows up and EVERYONE turns up to fight him off (Cyclops goes all out in space, MM and Xavier teaming up with Cerebro, Pym and Atom helping luthor complete that raygun
>

He might keep the SuperLex persona for a longer time, if not permanently, because if Stark can do it, why couldn't him?

>Doom and Sivana team up for mad science shenanigans
>Baron Zemo and Lex Luthor lead their respective villain teams against the Crime Syndicate

>He still is petty beyond reason and fails
>He and DOOM have a back and forth sort of rivalry going on
This is also good

I wonder how the Tower of Babel story goes here?

What shit goes on in Japan? Does Wolverine get involved fighting the League of Assassins?

The Hand and the League of Assassins were once the same organization they split when Ra's first took over

DChads are too good for marvelcucks.

Yeah, and the Hand as well. Probably teams up with DD, Bat and others as well

I wouldn't be surprised if Logan worked for Ra's at one point or another before Weapon X

Imagine Ra's capturing Logan and experimenting on him to try and replicate his healing factor so he doesn't have to rely on his failing Lazarus Pits

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I can see that. I was thinking before losing his memories Logan was one of Ra's few friends

So what's the hierarchy of corporations/enterprises/whatever in terms of cash? I guess the big ones are Wayne Enterprises, LexCorp, Stark Industries, Oscorp, and Fantastic Four inc.

Joe Fixit goes to Gotham

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What if doom is the reason that lex tries to be a hero more often and vice versa? After all, they are quite similar

Who from dc would be shipped with spiderman the most?

He'd be in a precarious position in Gotham. His presence will attract capes looking to scrap but he just wants to make money and do white collar crime. Bat would have some trouble as Fixit is nigh invulnerable

Power Girl

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Tough to say. In universe or editorial? I like Starfire for being so spunky and very powerful, or Cass, his spider sense would intrigue her since she wouldn't get much a read on him

Patch and Matches Malone teacup in Gotham please.

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> teacup
meant to type team up fucking spellcheck this typo must have not hit the spacebar has enough

What sort of conspiracies does Question get into in this world?

>Bruce and Tony fuck yo the world even more by creating a murderous AI.
Yeah, sounds like them.

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He’d only be 1 inch taller than her. Thing is, Wonder Woman has heels

The order you put them in seems correct, actually

He'd have an awareness of all the shadowy organizations puppeteering shit, i;e: HYDRA, League of Assassins, etc. He'd also figure Skrulls out quick

lmao yes

Headcanon for me is that Quicksilver doesn’t give a shit about Barry or Wally, but is actually pretty much a Jay Garrick fanboy.

Quicksilver with Jay would be like Hawkeye with Captain America. He tries to be the “lancer” to his “hero” but he end up being his biggest fanboy instead.

Sort of revenge against Magneto for being such a shitty “dad”

>Jay Garrick
Oh hell yes he'd fanboy the original speedster himself. Probably see him as a proper role model
>QS when he was younger tried to imitate Jay but came off as too dorky
>Wanda never lets him live it down

He’d probably bullshit himself into thinking that the Anti-Life Equation can make his waifu death finally like him.

Only if they form an alliance with

>>Doom and Sivana team up for mad science shenanigans
>Doom tried his God Emperor Doom bullshit again
>Sivanna sciences the fuck out of that shit and steals those powers for himself
>DC and Marvel now have to deal with God Emperor Sivanna.

I'm now imagining Wildcat trying to hold back an enraged Hippolyta from a confused Herc.
>Come on polly, he's not worth it!

Everybody is a scroll

Except Deadpool.

And he’s right

*Skrull

Spidey x Cass would be interesting but I doubt dc would pair them.

>Taskmaster and Deathstroke are rivals
>Quicksilver looks up to Jay Garrick, which pisses off Magneto
>Wonder Woman wears the classic star spangled costume to honor Captain America’s death
>Wonder Woman, Jay Garrick, Liberty Belle Black Canary (Drake), Johnny Thunder, and Hawkman were all part of the Invaders.
>Johnny Thunder and Bucky used to be friends
>Captain America and Shining Knight were found at the same place and the same time.
>Stick Vs Ras al Ghul happened once.
>Batman and Black Panther infiltrated the Avengers at the same time
>Thor, Orion, and Hercules all try to outperform each other
>Namor replaces Orm in Aquaman’s backstory, nothing changes.

>Thanos and Mongul are “rivals” but only Mongul seems to think so

>Thanos almost always wins but Mongul is strong enough to survive

>Mongul gets fed up and asks Superman for help

>Superman actually agrees because Thanos needs a fucking asswhopping.

They will! It was actually that same post that gave me the idea.

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>>Stick Vs Ras al Ghul happened once.
>Stick won, three times In a row
>Ra's asked to learn from him

>Namor replaces Orm in Aquaman’s backstory, nothing changes.
I love this, he's also older than Arthur by decades and was also part of the invaders
>Arthur is a bit embarrassed by his older half brother at times, especially his dalliances

>Cass
So Peter is a legit pedophile now!?

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If Tony had helped Bruce create Brother Eye, Brother Eye would never had went rogue like it did. Tony ain't Pym, his AIs generally don't go rogue and attempt to eliminate all organic life.

Yeah, replace Tony with Pym and it'd check out
>Brother Eye and Ultron hate each other with a passion
Isn't she an adult by now? I ship Laura with Pete so I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Supergirl?

>Namor replaces Orm in Aquaman’s backstory, nothing changes.
Instead of that, Namor, Orm, and Aquaman are all half-brothers. All a result of their mother being impregnated by 3 different men. Namor being the oldest of the trio due to the fact that he participated WWII. Namor would remain the King of Atlantis while Aquaman does his thing on the surface world. Orm is just kind of there.

Current Cass is in her teens. Current Supergirl is also in her teens and probably about the same age as Cass. No idea about Laura but current Laura is probably slightly older than Cass and Supergirl.

Ah thanks, stupid sliding timelines
I'd rather Orm disappears or is folded into Namor to make things a little cleaner. Unless you want Orm to be angry and plotting against his halfbreed half brothers for being a better king (and potential king) than he could be.

That be a nice idea, despite his faults Namor has proven an able and effective ruler for all these years after his Invaders stint and maturing during the war.He had to help raise Orm after his father passed, by the time they hear of Arthur Namor may feel embarrassed by his mom, though he'd find his thought hypocritical given his paramors

You could make Arthur into a blend of his original version + Sword of Atlantis Aquaman + a little bit of New 52.

>If Tony had helped Bruce create Brother Eye, Brother Eye would never had went rogue like it did. Tony ain't Pym, his AIs generally don't go rogue and attempt to eliminate all organic life.
Please. Tony would find a way to fuck it up. Probably because it actually went perfectly and Tony would get paranoid over the AI or some shit.

Then why does JL have the A in their name?

>Avengers don't kill. It's why pre-Bendis they would have never got Wolverine onboard, and why Hawkeye was angry at Mockingbird

The damn team is largely made up of ex-villains and soldiers. They definitely kill when they feel the need. Way more than Batman or Superman would ever be comfortable with.

>Virl Dox II gets the remains of the Nova Corps to join L.E.G.I.O.N
>Guy Gardner is a fanboy of Cap(who replaces General Glory). The US Govt. is more annoyed with Steve since Gardner doesn't give a shit as is and do NOT want to piss off his GL pal.
>Spidey is all but a Bat-Family member. Pete was a roommate of Dick in ESU, Bruce & Pete having similar circumstances bonded pretty well.
>Bruce actually finds Parker funny. He'll never tell him though.

Please. None of Tony's AIs ever went rogue on him and he created dozens. Every incarnation of Batman that ever created Brother Eye, it went rogue mainly due to Batman. If Brother Eye goes rogue even with Tony helping him create it, it would definitely be Batman's fault it went rogue. Even when Mister Terrific helped Batman create Brother Eye, it went rogue.

>>Spidey is all but a Bat-Family member.
Please no. Batfamily is getting too much attention as is. I can dig Peter and Dick being room mates and Peter and Jimmy being collage friends, but that’s it.

>Cap, Thor, Ares, and Hercules have a lengthy historic bodycount in wars.
>Tony has killed a lot of his villains in the past. The shit he did to Living Laser is outright barbaric
>Black Panther, Carol, and Namor have some high bodycounts from their past temper tantrums
>Scarlet Witch, Mockingbird, and USAgent have killed in their former agent days
>Hawkeye, Wonder Man, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Gilgamesh, Swordsman, Jocasta, Vision, and Sandman are former villains

The purest one you might find that would ever come close to DC hero ideals might be Firebird. And she was only on the team for a few months in the 80s

So would Bat and Pym bond over their ability to create rampant omnicidal AIs?

>Punisher has successfully entered, picked off targets and exited Gotham on more than one occasion over the years wile Bat has been prowling
>Frank and Slade were part of the same unit in Nam
>Frank was a candidate for the same super soldier program as Slade but he retired home after Nam
>They've crossed paths on more than one occasion

Peter wouldn't be friends with Batman. Peter would view Batman as a slightly more tamed Punisher only due to the fact that he doesn't kill his villains. Even then, Batman would be too paranoid and obsessive to be someone that Spider-man would consider as a friend.

>None of Tony's AIs ever went rogue on him and he created dozens.
You’re right. It’s usually Tony HIMSELF that goes overboard.

Definitely Magus. Bending the wills of the universe to his own sounds like his usual methodology.

GLC would not be cool with the empires in Marvel. They are all conquering assholes that thrive by conquest. The Skrulls and Kree are the obvious ones but the Shi'Ar are petty enslaving dicks too. The Guardians would not just leave their galaxy alone through treaty.

I'm on board with this

The Maker

The X-Men fight Doomsday
Justice League deals with Shuma Gorath
The Thing and Cyborg get into a meatball sub eating contest
Sinister Six and Flash's Rouges team up to rob the international bank of Wayne
Lex Luthor vs Kingpin for President of dimensional merged America
Guardians of the Galaxy meet the New Gods
Galactus and Silver Surfer vs Apokolips
Valhalla and Themyscira merge all goes well until Loki slaps a chick's ass while looking like Odin
that's all I got off the top of my head

The Runner is faster than the Flash and definitely faster than Quicksilver,

In their constant rivalry, The Flash ends up with The Speed Force power while Quicksilver gets The Runner’s Primordial Power.

Would Thanos become a Star Sapphire? Now that's an interesting thought

>Skrulls, Durlans & Dire Wraiths are related to each other. And all hate other.
>Operation Galactic Storm involved the GLC, Darkstars & L.E.G.I.O.N. The Kree Empire was divided between those three & The Shi'ar.

>Guardians of the Galaxy meet the New Gods
>Darkseid: What are you doing?
>Quill: *Dancing* Distracting you rock face!

>Would Thanos become a Star Sapphire? Now that's an interesting thought
That or a Black Lantern, he Loves Death

>Sinister Six and Flash's Rouges team up to rob the international bank of Wayne
>they fuck each other’s plans up
>Doc Ock hates Captain Cold and The Top
>Mirror Master and Mysterio try to out-mindfuck each other
>Captain Boomerang just doesn’t get along with anybody

>That or a Black Lantern, he Loves Death
Death would never allow Thanos to wield a Black Lantern ring. Too much power and too close to her too.

>Sinister Six and Flash's Rouges team up to rob the international bank of Wayne
>they fuck each other’s plans up
>Spidey tries to help but gets webbing on the ground
>Flash steps on it and goes flying into a buliding

>The Supreme Intelligence manipulates a Three-Way Fight between Guy Gardner, Super-Skrull & Gladiator.
>And in turn Virl Dox II manipulates everyone.

I feel like this stuff could be taken further: How many alternate universes for the multiverse can you come up with from this stuff?

Ditko Earth: Where the characters Ditko made or worked on for Marvel, DC, and Charlton show up. Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Blue Beetle, Captain Atom, Hawk and Dove, Creeper, etc.

Injustice vs Secret Empire: Half the US is conquered by HydraCap, and the other half is controlled by Regime Superman, and they're at war.

Orm would be the autistic middle sibling striving for power

>Ignore Cap being taller than Wondey
I wouldn’t have noticed this if you hadn’t pointed it out reee.

>Injustice vs Secret Empire: Half the US is conquered by HydraCap, and the other half is controlled by Regime Superman, and they're at war.
I want to see this just for the sheer fuckery of it all
That's what we're going for
>Their mom had a child with a proper Atlantean
>Orm is the product
>Later she does it with Arthur's mom
Some mutation through the maternal line when she has halfbreeds?

Novas might be the replacement for the Darkstars. As the Controllers private peacekeeping army. And they distrust the GLC and think they are too ineffective.

Modern Kryptonians are another past Celestial experiment, they are their species Eternal branch. Same with Green Martians and Czarneans. All three were judged by the Celestials and destroyed.
Durlans and White Martians are Deviants

New Genesis and Apokolips are the gods of a long dead planet but they linger around like Asgard and Olympus. Darkseid and Highfather are both Skyfathers that take an active role in the main universe.

Maltusian Guardians are the same age and power as the Watchers and stand as the other oldest existing species in the universe. Ganthet is their representative in the Living Tribunal's court. They have an agreement with the Watchers to never interfere directly. The Green Lanterns are their method of copying Eon's Guardian of the Universe position and power rings are a imitation of the Quantum Bands.

The Elders of the Universe were the original enemies of the Guardians and the GLC.

Nekron is another abstract along side Eternity Death Oblivion and Infinity. He represents the dark preexistence before the big bang. Black Hand is his herald

Is this an albert camus joke or am I just really fucking tired?

It is. It's a parody cover from Masterpiece Comics.

Disney would still exist and would hire the Avengers, so they would be their Brand Ambassadors and military force.

The Justice League will still be funded by Bruce and Ollie and the wealth from Atlantis. Wakanda would have been invaded during the colonial ages just like every other resource rich country in Africa and never would have happened as it did in the 'comics.'

If Flash and Quicksilver were in the same universe, wouldn't it be possible that Quicksilver also used the Speed Force?

A lot of street-level DC heroes and villains would probably be mutants. Hell, half of JLI could be mutants.

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The Skrulls, Kree or Shi'ar honestly wouldn't care what the GLC thinks of them? If the GLC declares war against them, that's fine with them. The Skrulls are capable of replicating any superpower and implanting into soldiers. The Kree got cosmic science one their side and are capable of creating cosmic weapons rivaling that of Green Lantern power rings. The Shi'ar have a bunch of entire planets of superhumans at its disposal and are led by a Superman analog.

The GLC probably wouldn't even do anything to them. Just look at all the other alien empires that the Guardians allow to exist. Starro the Conqueror despite him already conquering a galaxy via mindrape. Krypton when they were warmongers and conquerors. Mongul (the original, not his failure of a son, Mongul II)and whatever he did prior to his death.

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The Dire Wraiths are already canonly magic Skrulls.

Nekron would just be a fragment of Death. Nowhere as powerful as Death but still sufficiently powerful in his own right.

Thanos is more likely to take the place of Anti-Monitor as Black Central Battery than just becoming a Black Lantern

...then again that would mean Black Hand would have to deal with Adam Warlock. Who would probably replace Nekron as Black Entity.
All while staying the Champion of Life.

>Injustice vs Secret Empire: Half the US is conquered by HydraCap, and the other half is controlled by Regime Superman, and they're at war.
Which ends with Good Steve returning with the Power Sword of SHAZAM?

>Some mutation through the maternal line when she has halfbreeds?
I'd go the "cousins" way: Namora was made exactly because Namor was overpowered and they wanted another one.

Arthur as attempt at artificial insemination and Orm as proper 100% atlantian backup?

>Durlans and White Martians are Deviants
IMHO both Green and White Martians should be both Deviants

New Gods are the third generation of the eldest\one of the eldest pantheons in the universe.

>He represents the dark preexistence before the big bang.
that's Knull though.
Or Oblivion, depending on how much lack of existence we are talking about.

he should be a Second Tier Abstract, if anything, like Entropy.
Or, and this might actually work better with the Giardian theme, the eldest Death God.
Like, the Emotion Entities being basically the Elder Gods of the Universe, so old they are ultra-basic: they represent emotions.

>If Flash and Quicksilver were in the same universe, wouldn't it be possible that Quicksilver also used the Speed Force?
it's just much funnier if he's the only one who cannot

Because in years 3000 the Milky Way is conquered by the Badoon, the Legion of Super-heroes starts in the Andromeda Galaxy of the old Shi'ar Empire, now United Planets
They modelled themselves after the Imperial Guard of the Shi'ar Golden Age, and a number of the greatest Earth-based heroes like Superboy

>that's Knull though
We don't acknowledge that thing's existence here.

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>Which ends with Good Steve returning with the Power Sword of SHAZAM?

Could be.

Cause he's a dummy and doesn't realize the league is in the DCU and therefore isn't hated by civilians

The events of World War Hulk replaces Doomsday in the Death of Superman

nice way to ruin hulk dingus

Skrulls are not handling the Lanterns, this is retarded

>Or Oblivion, depending on how much lack of existence we are talking about.
>he should be a Second Tier Abstract, if anything, like Entropy.
He could be a bridge between Death and Oblivion like Galactus is the bridge between Death and Eternity

You do realize that the Guardians and all 7200 lanterns are more than enough to send the shi'Ar right back to their homeworld and quarantine it.

They did the same damn thing to the imperial Kryptonians, Burning Martians, and Empire of Tears. Shi'Ar don't have enough Strontians to matter in this scenario. And only 2 of them are actually decently powered.

Too many heroes

They ditched the "Of America" in the New 52 and never brought it back.

The Shi'ar have Gladiator, Kid Gladiator, an entire corps of Smashers, an entire race of beings powered by a black hole, an entire race of beings that possess the power of a star, a Brainiac 5 analog, a Saturn Girl analog, and etc. The Shi'ar will do just fine against the GLC.

This unironically

Some of them would obviously die Teen Titans style.

and, more important, the Shi'ar work under "more realistic" rules, which means LOGISTICS are an actual issue for anybody wanting to bother them

Most Lanterns are kind of shitty anyway, and that's without the Yellow Weakness.

The GLC aren't pushovers like the Nova Corps. A single competent GL is typically a huge deal in intergalactic wars (see Rann/Thanagar War or the Sinestro Corps War). They also have the Guardians and occasionally Ion at the top. In terms of pure power every Marvel Cosmic Empire together couldn't challenge the Corps.
What the Marvel empires do have going for them however is that most Lanterns and Guardians are headstrong and most are even outright dumb. Shrewd under the table deals and assassinations across empires would likely be the norm

>A single competent GL
Kyle cannot be everywhere at the same time!

..well, not anymore.

Kyle and Spider-Man would get along really well. Mainly because they're the same character

Do you have the one where Thor vaporizes Tony’s brother, or whoever that was?

>Deadpool and Lobo go on a cosmic roadtrip
>Along the way they pick a funny green faced fella

See, one big problem I have with this mixed universe is Galactus. More specifically, Galactus and the Guardians and the Green Lantern Corps.

The Guardians are definitely powerful enough to kill off Galactus, hell you could argue for the Lanterns themselves putting him down easily enough when you look at the top level threats they regularly kill or imprison. Fucks sake, Hal could probably 1 shot him if he "muh will"'d hard enough.

But the Guardians are also smart enough to know who Galactus is and what he exists for. I think Galactus would have to be almost be an entirely different character for this verse to work, because there is no way the Guardians would allow him to have free choice when it comes to planets for consumption. I think with their control over the universe, the Guardians would find a way to best 'manage' his hunger.

Well, it's either that or just give Galactus such a ludicrous power-up that the Guardians and the entire corps can't beat him, but I find that kinda dumb, the Guardians wouldn't stop until he's dealt with. One other option would be to make Galactus the only Orange Lantern, his hunger more or less being his greed, his heralds being people he's killed and creates as constructs.

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Don’t the lantern corps get wiped out all the time? Are they really the most powerful group in cosmic dc

Project Rising Spirit is Valiant.
Not to mention a fuckload shadier then the Super Soldier Project.

The idea of Spidey, Ted, and Booster all nerding it up all the time is too good.

Lanterns are lowkey retard powerful, even for DC characters. Each one of the Guardians are capable of ending the universe.

Every big lantern "event" is either them fighting other lanterns or one that ends with them killing some mega space god of some sort that scales far above galactus. Ever read that JLA/Avengers crossover? Still technically canon to both universes, the big bad in that who took both universes teaming up to beat. He literally punched Galactus to death with his fists, then built a fucking castle out of the body.

Well he showed up again in DC down the line, but with a ridiculous power-up, to the level that he was wielding enough energy to casually destroy at least 7 universes bare minimum.

Hal Jordan 1 shot killed him at full power.

>Don’t the lantern corps get wiped out all the time?

Yeah they suffer a bit from the whole 'ninja' weakness. Take one of them and he will stop anyone. Bring all several thousand of them together and they get rinsed by Superman.

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The S6 would be an incredibly dangerous villain team but for one problem; the dude who they are all focused on taking down is possibly the single WORST superhero to fight against with multiple people, as his powerset lends itself VERY well to being outnumbered.

First post best post.

JLA was basically a space force during the Silver Age and even when future writers tried to make them more terrestrial based they always tended to be more cosmic in scope than the Avengers.

Naw. JLA has always gotten along with the UN but they aren't beholden to them like the Avengers are to SHRA and earlier to Gyrich.

There have been times when the JLA says "fuck you" to world governments.

Why didn't he make himself yellow if he was so powerful?

He more or less did, he had complete control over parallax i.e. the yellow embodiment of all fear. Didn't work.

Also yellow hasn't affected lanterns for decades.

>There's a running bet between the JLA & Avengers to see how long Gyrich would last before getting punched in the face by Guy Gardner.

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More like The Death of Superman happened recently and everybody is still reeling from his death when Hulk arrives. Superman is dead, and the Hulk is angrier than ever.

Yes. But would Spidey get along with Booster Gold tho?

They’re logically incredibly powerful but that would be game-breaking for DC so they have them job all the time.

For instance, Superman and Supergirl are giant solar batteries. Logic dictates that since even rookie Green Lanterns transmutare stars, they can transmutate their energy reserves too. But that never comes up.

>This one of the few universes where people remember Access when he appears
>He comes every now and again to check up on this clusterfuck marveling at how it hasn't been torn apart yet

>Access
Hell, I don't think anyone working in either Marvel or DC remember him either. I'd make it my mission to to bring him back if I worked for either.

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>Access considers this world his home away from home nowadays
>Owns a summer home he rests at
>He even helps with crimefighting once in a while

Yea no DCfag. Gladiator alone is perfectly capable of handling any number of lanterns. They are not going to be able to impose shit on the Shi'Ar if they don't want it. The Imperial Guard does not give a shit about playing nice or following rules either and will just outright murder the fuck out of any lantern corps that gets in their way.

A single competent GL makes large green boxing gloves. They are not going to handle the best of the Shi'Ar.

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Just have Galactus being able to eat up or disperse Constructs and the GLs are useless against him. He has both vast amounts of Power Cosmic AND Cosmic Super Technology: it wouldn't be far-fetched.

The Guardians declaring Galactus basically a Natural Phenomenon and therefore have the Lanterns only work to save peoples from the planets he devours but otherwise having strict orders to not engage him.
Like, the Rings automatically stopping any activity against Galactus under the "preserve Lantern's life" directive.

>He literally punched Galactus to death with his fists, then built a fucking castle out of the body.
Krona was abnormally powered-up by all the universes he destroyed before.

BILLY punches him before Guy.
Not Captain Marvel. Billy, in his kid form.
He literally transforms back to specifically punch Gyrich's face in.

Also, Herc can take away Billy's super-strength when transformed whenever he wants.
Or COULD, if he just managed to remember how the hell he gave it to the Wizard to share, too much magical alchool....

how would he react to Gwenpool and Superbro Prime?

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Unlike DC's cosmic empires, Marvel's cosmic empires actually spans galaxies.Unlike the Rann/Thanagar, the Kree, Skrulls, Shi'ar are a legit threat, massive and are actually competent by comicbook standards.

Galactus made Darkseid his bitch during the crossover. The Guardians ain't going to be doing shit to Galactus. The Guardians attempting to instigate matters with Galactus would only lead to Galactus employing more than 1 herald. And a single herald is already more than sufficient to take on half the GLC.

Nevermind the fact that if they both exist in the same universe, Galactus would be a necessary function for the continue survival of the universe. I know the Guardians can be pretty retarded and stupid at times, but not even they are that retarded and stupid to consider killing Galactus.

Avengers would be made up of a team of humans trying to be gods.

Justice League would be a team of gods trying to be human.

Took long enough for this retard to appear.

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>Forever Evil happens
>Cap spends it running from a yandere Superwoman

>"a single herald is already more than sufficient to take on half the GLC"

>This is what mousecucks actually believe

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Guardians are much more powerful than Galactus. They are the core reason why entropy exists and accidentally created the multiverse. Galactus cannot match those feats.

>Billy: Gee, sorry Cap. But I just couldn't let him badmouth my sister like that!
>Steve: Look, I would be lying if I didn't say Gyrich doesn't deserve to be put in place. Lord knows how many times we had to stop Hawkeye but there are better ways to prove him wrong.
>Billy: Jay & Alan said the same thing.
>Steve: And Wildcat?
>Billy: If I was old enough he said he would treat me to a beer.

Claiming they created the multiverse is like claiming you helped baked that cake when all you did was watched it happened. That's exactly what Krona did. Disrupted the cosmic being that was creating a universe and caused it to create a multiverse instead.

I wonder how it would mix up with the Marvel cosmology?

What?

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Except it was Krona's direct action that did it. He didn't just see it happen, he was the catalyst.

Perpetua the Infinity to First Firmament's Eternity?