Finishing the most overrated comic of all time

Finishing the most overrated comic of all time

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You do know pretending to be retarded is little different from actually being retarded, right?

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Jeez.
You could do something much more productive with your time. You could learn a new foreign language. You could study microbiology. You could train Siberian tigers.
Instead, you're having a mental breakdown in Yea Forums.

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>its a black freighter episode

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>you're having a mental breakdown in Yea Forums
Are you sure OP is the one having a mental breakdown , user?

Would Rorschach even be found guilty if he went to court?

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Yes, superheroes are illegal in Watchmen world

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Yeah, pretty sure. What kind of person would spend this much time posting each page one by one of a comic they don't like? Even the unironic storytimes of pain, the ones with actually bad comics, are done because the comics are so bad their funny and it can be enjoyable to read them together.

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Part of me expected at least a small reference to the electric car and the Flash having the same logo in Doomsday Clock. Either a one-off joke or Manhattan unconsciously duplicating it.

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Rorschach's reactions get me every time.

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This is the one part I never got, why'd they kill him? It doesn't look like his body is preventing the door from being opened.

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I honestly like Dr. Manhattan being casual. It's so absurd, yet normal.

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I've always wanted to commission an artist to draw Darksied and Manhattan sitting on separate couches, one reading a magazine and the other just flipping channels on the TV

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So, did Hollis beat the shit out of them, or is this deliberately supposed to be a contrast?

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This was the best scene in the movie and they fucking cut it.

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I feel like this scene is supposed to mock Cosmic Marvel stories.

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Why is Laurie too retarded to understand that Jon can't solve the world's problems?

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Why do I get the impression that Jon secretly wants to leave Mars and repopulate mankind with Laurie?

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I honestly hate that the movie removed the human part of Dr. Manhattan because he's deliberately telling Laurie to chill the fuck out.

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He can if he actually tried, he just doesn't want to.

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>this is insanity
yep

FUCK I just now noticed her earrings. This book I swear.

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I mean, Jon just wants to live a comfy life in space and alone making scientific discoveries. He's just not interested in the Russians and USA wiping everyone off because of their dick measuring missile contest.

Moore is a hack, OP is doing the right thing.

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I never understood Jon's immense apathy but I'm probably just a brainlet.

>"The Comedian... was your father!"
Made me so irrationally angry.

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Bit of both. He's actually putting a bit of a fight but compared to the shitty Snyder version he's still just a frail old man.

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Just curious, OP: are you the same user who SoP'd Kingdom Come a lil while back?

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He's barely human at this point, the scope of his powers makes everything going on in Earth seems so quaint in comparison

Jon never had apathy. He was tired of being dominated by women and society into using his problems to solve their problems. From his perspective, they're just irrationally afraid of things they don't understand.

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Hey, you'd probably be apathetic if you knew absolutely everything you were going to do during the duration of your existence.

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Jon's words are still framed human. He acts more like a science professor who's not interested in saving the world despite society pleading.

No, never read Kingdom Come

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Would Adrian's plan to save the world have been better if he just made an Ozymandis cartoon with musical guest stars?

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The feel when Roscharch saw himself in that kid and chose not to make the same mistakes his parents did.

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He compromised with Ms. Shairp for the kids sake.

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That look of sheer, utter sadness on Rorschach is palpable.

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Mr. A would've killed Ms. Shairp while the kid watches. Rorschach has his limits and knows when to stop.

I want to frame that one edit where Rorschach doesn't let go of his hand.

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Mr. A would have killed Ms. Shairp and then lectured the kids in a series of paragraphs about how she deserves it for making false rape accusations.

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Dammit, I honestly want a Rorschach comic, if only because I like the idea of the Scorpio Killer, Son of Sam, or DC Sniper as a hero.

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>Dan unironically has lifejacket instructions aboard
Best boy

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>Bitch to be you right now

This page raises a point: how did Rorschach's journal even influence the events of Doomsday Clock when it's the Watchmen Equivalent to the Unabomber's Manifesto, or the ravings of a serial killer?

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>the events of Doomsday Clock
Don't count.

I love the logos that they all have. I can really imagine cover artwork of Rorschach making his way down an alleyway, the Rorschach logo appearing as graffiti, and the little splotch that forms the "O" being what's left of some rapist.

It took seven years and it only takes the smallest amount of research to prove anything.

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Because Johns is a hack and can't write for shit.

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>implying the unabombers manifesto isnt 100% right

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He isn't implying that at all. He's talking about how it's *perceived*, not how accurate it is. Rorschach's journal is what's being compared to it. How are you getting a lack of truth out of that comparison?

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I legit hate how much Comedian wank there is in Watchmen it seems practically everything that happened is because he existed. Even Doc mentioned how "Blake saw how the world really is"

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I like that we're all just reading the comic now.

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Very easy to knock down a house, much harder to build one.

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It's not wank at all; it's condemning his very existence.

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“It’s the world. I can’t rum from it.”
Kills me everytime.

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Any recommendations for someone who enjoyed Watchmen? I have never read a non-manga comic/graphic novel aside from it.

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Before Watchmen

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I like how the chick is the only one who bothers to bring a gun, and Veidt has to do this superhuman feat to not die to it. And she could have just shot twice.

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>Joking, of course.
I love this page whole page but this might be my favorite quote ever.

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What is this supposed to say? That any means is permissible as long as the ends are acceptable?

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Fuck Watchmen, I hope the HBO show rapes it more than the film did. It can only be an improvement, you deserve Lindelof.

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Fuck dr. manfaggot.
So full of himself.

tom king mister miracle

Of course not, but since what was done was done, there's no point in ruining the peace born from destruction. But peace built on a lie is fragile, and Rorschach's journal will reveal that. Hopefully. I really hope the HBO show is good.

I don't appreciate your terrible opinions but I do appreciate you for this story time. Thanks user

Dark Knight Returns, Flex Mentallo, Pax Americana, Miracleman, Red Son

Thanks for reminding me how much I love this comic, dude.

Would you let humanity go extinct for moral purity?

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I would, but only out of spite.

>Bradford Wright described Watchmen as "Moore's obituary for the concept of heroes in general and superheroes in particular."
>Putting the story in a contemporary sociological context, Wright wrote that the characters of Watchmen were Moore's "admonition to those who trusted in 'heroes' and leaders to guard the world's fate". He added that to place faith in such icons was to give up personal responsibility to "the Reagans, Thatchers, and other 'Watchmen' of the world who supposed to 'rescue' us and perhaps lay waste to the planet in the process".
>Moore specifically stated in 1986 that he was writing Watchmen to be "not anti-Americanism, [but] anti-Reaganism", specifically believing that "at the moment a certain part of Reagan's America isn't scared. They think they're invulnerable."

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fucking lol

I'd let humanity go extinct because humans are a cancer that is very slowly - scratch that, very quickly - killing the Earth

the Punisher did

Transmetropolitan,
Before Watchmen (Minutemen ONLY),
Any Daredevil written by Frank Miller,
Bone by Jeff Smith

>Adrian himself didn't consider Rorschach a threat because he's mentally ill
>Jon can see past and future across multiple realities, doesn't erase the journal

Was killing him really necessary?

Tachyons.
The answer is always tachyons.

That room of oligarchs was what caused the extinction in the first place, the exact thing Veidt was trying to stop.

Killing Rorschach was a kindness.

Based. Fuck this book.

The fuck are you on? Outside of a handful of humanizing moments the Comedian is portrayed as a vile human being.

Don't listen to this shitposting retard

I'd recommend pretty much anything by Moore, Miracleman is probably the closest in approach and tone.

The Punisher isn't exactly a paragon or morality.

I love the slow zoom in on Rorschach

Jokes on you, I actually found even more appreciation from the storytime.

Good thing DC's got prequels for Watchmen and is publishing a sequel written by the legendary writer Geoff Johns.

Rorschach was committing suicide by Manhattan.

>Nothing ever ends Adrian

what DID he mean by this?

I never realized how much of a puppet Dr Manhattan is in this story.

Every single thing he does is done because someone else told him to do it. Everything, even when goes from Mars to escape it all, he still only appears in front of Laurie because Laruie wanted it, only decided to save humanity because Laurie told him too, only agreed with Ozymandia because he told him it was a good idea. Right down to killing Rorschach. Didn't even do anything till Rorscharch told him to do it.

I'd always thought of him as being basically mentally ill, really. The most powerful man on the planet believes he has no control over his actions. That's kind of schizophrenic.

Or something. I might be getting the exact nature of it wrong, but he could easily be seen as "fucking crazy".

"Oh, I can't control anything I do at all, boo hoo".

He was a pushover even when he was Osterman. His father chose his profession, Janey made the first move...
It's probably to show that he isn't as far removed from humanity as he thinks he is.

>we're all puppets

Ok, hold on, ok. why did LBJ not use Manhattan in Vietnam??? and is comedian killing jfk just a one off joke? i don't know enough about jfk conspiracies

still a great comic

Did Adrian have any reason to lie about his servants like that? I mean he candidly admits to killing millions of people.

That was me, and Kingdom Come rightly fucking sucks.

>Ill give it a little thought

I absolutely love the humor in these pages
>come and get me
>cut to dan/laurie coming to get him
>provided nobody's been too rough with the electricals
>cut to Rorschach yanking on cables

>old grudges and bad blood
>Rorschach covered in bad-guy's blood

>he shouldn't be too difficult to track down...
>literally leaving footprints
And so on.

Here's why Moore was full of shit: THE NUCLEAR ARMS RACE DIDN'T LEAD TO WORLD WAR III. IT DID THE OPPOSITE. IT PREVENTED IT.

Moore's entire basis for the story is that "the Cold War can only lead to nuclear war", but that entire premise was proven false just a couple years or so after the comic was published.

AND THAT MEANS RORSCHACH WAS RIGHT.

HOW FUCKING SHIT IS YOUR STORY IF THE VILLAIN YOU SPEND THE ENTIRE STORY SHITTING ALL OVER TURNS OUT TO BE RIGHT IN THE END?

That's not Kingdom Come.

I beg to differ.

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Great out of context

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What said.
>Right down to killing Rorschach. Didn't even do anything till Rorscharch told him to do it.
He probably would have done something regardless

>LBJ
>not use Manhattan in Vietnam
Slow down and read it again buddy

I think most people would be willing to compromise even what they considered their most sacred values if the scale of the stakes was high enough
Truth, justice etc. could seem abstract and unimportant when billions of lives and the fate of human civilization is actually in your hands

Always depresses me.

It's probably just bait

Still one of the greatest moments in comics.

>the veidt method
sensible chuckle

Honestly those puns are what cement Adrian as the most unlikeable character in all of this.

I only just now realized that her talking about the costume isn't purely bdsm aesthetics but alluding to the Comedian. Oi.

It's a good comic.

what did the crowd's intervention on the domestic dispute represent? did they prove Ozymandius's assumptions about man's violent nature wrong at the moment of his master plan's execution?

Yes. Ozzy killed millions for no reason.

Nixon's the one who asks him to get involved in 1970

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so it's anti-reagan propaganda

>all these trigger Moorefags
kek

We came pretty fucking close at times, you're looking at the Cold War with the benefit of hindsight rather than looking at it when tensions were at its highest. Not to mention Moore changed history in the Watchmen universe to inflame tensions even more, making a nuclear exchange even more likely.

Those are some really shitty opinions

he looks like hank hill with a mullet in the botom left panel

But it's not. Watchmen is hyped but it is actually good and deserves it. You are thinking of Killing Joke

Based
thanks OP I thoroughly hated it

I guess Adrian manipulated the media, to get this spin on the story, but even then I think the Alien Invasion part was pretty far fetched.

It's perhaps less "I can't control anything I do at all" and more of "I can't distinguish anymore, whether I make my own decisions, or just follow some script I've allready memorized and I'm forced to follow?", because either way he allready knew in advance what it would lead to.

Can an omniscient being do anything that suprises itself?

you have a very shallow understanding of the comic, its clear you feel personally attacked by the depiction of rorshache

They only died to keep the secret. He can't justify those deaths so he tries to cover them up.
That, or he's just saying what he'll say to the police.

They were welding right next to him and his protests/pained reactions would have slowed them down.

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