Anyone else think this was overkill for a guy who just found a blob woman hot?

At this point in the DCAU, with the exception of Static Shock having that "Very Special episode", the shows were *really* doubling down on hating any and all kinds of social misfits. It was a very long inbetweener of the likes of Mr. Freeze and lastly Ten from the original Royal Flush gang. Unlike them, if someone had a freak accident or stumbled into powers or tampered with shit that backfired, they were creeps and jerks who had it coming. Willie Watt (who I still say is an ugly, cynical deconstruction of Peter Parker) had his episodes, and later you'd get into that asshole who tried dating a combat robot (and a handful of people in the JL cartoons up to and including some whiny ass DnD nerds who somehow fucking brought Solomon Grundy back to unlife) and there's this guy: a glorified janitor who was in essence raping a comatose prisoner *on fucking camera* and nobody at super-prison thought to escort him out of the building following his job termination.

I think he totally did bring this fate on himself, but whether he deserved it or not... I will say the "poetic justice" he got at the end was fucked up. (And I gotta wonder who keeps HIRING people like that at the prison.)

Institutions tend to have a bad habit of hiring people just looking for power to abuse, in part because most normal people don't think to get their livelihood inolved in other peoples' freedoms in the first place. Why would anyone who things traffic stops are largely just city pestering become a traffic cop, for example?

When I first saw this episode I thought they were setting this guy up a similar way to Harley thank god he didn't go the Harley route.

Batman Beyond was so dark and edgy and I loved it. We need more dark and edgy media. I'm sick of 'mature' (aka toothless) entertainment.

To be honest, I was always disappointed that the show ripped off so many Spider-Man villains.

>Derek powers = Norman Osborn
>Inque = Hydroman/Venom ensemble but she's pretty much a symbiote.
> The fucking Terrific Trio episode is bullshit and can go fuck itself.
>Shriek = Shocker
>Stalker = Kinda cool but blatant Kraven rip off
> Spellbinder = Mysterio
>Willie Watt = Massive fuck you towards Peter Parker, taking his original depiction and making it even more dark and cynical
>Mad Stan = ... ...Okay, he was cool.

Like, sure, Powers was justifiable for the early plot stuff, and Inque had a much different characterization that separated her from Eddie Brock (who was the only Venom at the time) but it was still pretty fucking blatant. I mean, for fuck's sake this show struck gold with Terry and Bruce's dynamic and them working as a team, none of which was cribbed from Spiderman stories so why were the writers so fucking lazy as to rip off their competitors?

I loved Bruce just sitting back and watching this.

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This is literally the "He wasn't satisfying my needs, that's why I cheated on him! (It's his fault!)." post for a supervillainess dooming a guy trying to please her.

Bruce has a dark sense of humor.

I feel like you need to toss off the Spiderman less. You're overreaching on very generic things looking for a singular connection. I don't remember Normal Osborn walking around hiding the fact that he looked like a glowing skeleton that put off a ton of radiation that would regularly peel off his makeup because he was a freak too. Inque is no way a symbiote, she has more in common with clayface other than just being black and liking a shit ton of sharp objects when not appearing human; never needs a host as she is/was human. Hell, even Shriek is different than Shocker with a more complex background and usage for the technology; a pissed off deaf musician who uses technology to fix his hearing Daredevil style and weaponize all vibrations.

The show was creative as hell.

Im sure as fuck terry fucked tens ass

Spellbinder was based on Spellbinder. Y'know, the pre-existing Batman villain? Likewise Blight lifted his visuals from Dr. Phosphorus.

More like "I've already used this loser for all he's got so I might as well get rid of him with whatever I have on hand."

what he gets for not listening to real music like Tom Petty

>Derek powers = Norman Osborn
I didn't get that at all. I guess they're both angry and both experimented on themselves and both hate the protagonist, but all three of those things are pretty fucking generic. He was a radiation skeleton, not a goblin.
>Inque = Hydroman/Venom ensemble but she's pretty much a symbiote.
Inque's powers aren't from an alien or anything with its own distinct personality. She's just mutated. Having a liquid-like form that can change shapes isn't a Venom-specific idea. You might as well throw in Spawn, or Aku, or even Green Lantern as the same sort of thing. Or in the real world, octopi (which ties back in nicely with the ink theme), which the Japanese have been making fantastical drawings of for thousands of years prior to Venom's creation.
>The fucking Terrific Trio episode is bullshit and can go fuck itself.
That was blatantly Fantastic Four, yes.
>Shriek = Shocker
Shriek was a lot more subtle in how he used sound. His big episode was trying to drive Bruce insane with fake auditory hallucinations. Very different from just using sound for kinetic blasts. I think he also made it sound like a train (or the future equivalent) was coming or some shit to freak people out. I don't remember, but you get the point.
>Stalker = Kinda cool but blatant Kraven rip off
Great white hunter's an archetype, not a Marvel thing:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hunter
>Spellbinder = Mysterio
Nah, Spellbinder goes back to 1966. Was a legacy character for Batman Beyond:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spellbinder_(DC_Comics)
>Willie Watt
He had a giant robotic golem buddy, that's pretty different from being bit by a radioactive spider.

Pull the other one.

Just from a few clips I've seen on youtube in the past half hour, the oozing movements, the water/ink droplet style that they gave Inque in is blatant Symbiote stuff. She also did alot more whipping/turn limbs into blades shit. It's far more like Venom or Carnage than than the shambling muddy mannerisms of Clayface. Oh sure, they gave her Clayface's weakness (?) to water but wake up. This show was made after Fox's Spiderman cartoon, and her goddamn black and blue color scheme is nearly identical to a symbiote's. They fucking ripped it off.

And all six of those references in the same show? There's coincidence and then there's this.

Willie Watt may have had a robot buddy and eventual TK powers, but his rise and fall is a really cynical take on Peter Parker's own origins even if the powers and circumstances are altered, made worse by having him just use his powers for revenge rather than for profit.

Also, Inque can control people by smothering them and forcing their limbs around.

That is all very surface level stuff. The real disappointment was this guy and those snake cult people.

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They had an episode of Spiderman where the Venom symbiote possessed other people in order to get back to Eddie Brock. Carnage's debut if I recall.

Did he even show up after his dad outed himself?

Not that he had any powers or shit, but he was a one and done character unless there were episodes I didn't see.

They bring him back for a cameo in the sneek peek episode and then a season later he's in a Royal Flush Gang episode. I'm guessing the writers thought they had to do something with him.

Usually just to remind you that Bruce still isn't in charge of his company. I think they dropped him completely in Season 3.

How do you people remember this episode so well? Did you rewatch it many times, or did you look up the synopsis to jog your memory?
Everything more than a few weeks old is just a blur in my mind.

Center of the Earth is still the worst. Best case you still feel temp and burn up. Worst you don't need oxygen and die from dehydration after a few days.

Or you don't need anything at all and you just sit there in the center of the earth. Floating. Forever.

Ah.. And didn't the Inque's daughter episode occur after Paxton's betrayal?

...They used the same basic ending with both Inque and Blight, though Inque officially got better...

Most series magically revert to zero, no one faces long term consequences ever for anything, this dude got not only stabbed in the back but left imprisoned with a female version of himself and left mutated, no happy ending, no reset button, not many shows do that. It becomes one of those things you point back at and say "see, this was different".

Why doesn't that pic make a mention of what Ra's did to Talia? Because that was fucking dark.

>This show was made after Fox's Spiderman cartoon, and her goddamn black and blue color scheme is nearly identical to a symbiote's. They fucking ripped it off.
Obviously Venom is just a ripoff of Tlāloc, Aztec water god. Stole his shapeshifting form alternating between sharp claws and liquid dispertion, stole his black and blue color scheme, and even stole his alien looking black face with huge eyes and massive jagged teeth.
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Are the Batman Beyond comics any good?

Didn't this guy get a caretaker who felt the same way to him the way he felt to Inque?

Yes, that was his ironic punishment ending. Although being talked to by someone isn't really the thing I would focus on as what was fucked up about his ending. It's more the part where he was turned into a useless mutated mass of human waste and nobody had any way of curing him.

The earthmover guy also got a pretty shit deal, easily the #2 worst bad end in the show.

Fuck no.

>supervillainess
Why would you expect anything different from such a person?

>Or you don't need anything at all and you just sit there in the center of the earth. Floating. Forever.
That's not bad, it's just being a NEET with immortality. People literally crap their pants at Social Security Administration offices just for a chance to not have to do anything with their life like that.

People locked in sensory deprivation tanks start losing their minds scant 15 minutes into it, so realistically speaking I doubt the guy would have a functional consciousness past day two of the ordeal.