>bleeding heart faggot
>shows no attraction to any of the sexy alien women around him
>is a fucking push over
>ignores his dad to hang around people just as insufferable as him like onion or connie
>is emotionally stunted and cries over/isnt interested in things boys his age should love like violent movies and women
>plays a faggy ukele while his father has a bunch of old rock tapes and records he could listen to instead.
Any other reasons why steven is worse character is appreciated.
Bleeding heart faggot
(you)
>shows no attraction to any of the sexy alien women around him
They are his foster moms you sick freak
>They are his foster moms you sick freak
1. Only like three of them count as that
2. Never stopped me before.
it's a show by faggots, for faggots, get over it
He's also still a young teen and they're all effectively adults. Did you expect him to constantly hit on them you moron? Particularly given that he HAS a love interest already
Also did you miss all of the episodes where he was watching martial arts cheese movies and playing vidya, participates in show wrestling, and wants to go on Crystal Gem missions?
God damn it, well good job you made me type out a serious reply
>He's also still a young teen and they're all effectively adults. Did you expect him to constantly hit on them you moron? Particularly given that he HAS a love interest already
The fact that the only character hes shown anu interest in is that annoying bespeckled cunt with an unhealthy obsession with shitty YA novels makes it worse. When i was 14 i was checking out all my highschool teachers, this kids a certified faggot for being around literal alien sex slaves and showing no interest in them what so ever.
I like characters like pearl though, ones who have depth and desires like normal people. Steven is the archtype i font understand, characters like superman, golu, and jesus fall into it to, perfect gary stus with no human emotions like desire or anger that just seem phoney and self righteous. I hate characters like that, characters that are mentally broken somehow seem more legitimate to me.
>5 seasons of connie and steven together
>steven hasn't kissed her let alone told her "I love you" since they met.
faggot
>mom dies from fucking
>get your first baby boner
>freaks you out so bad you keep yourself physically stunted and sexually inert for six years
Steven needs to go to therapy.
>bleeding heart faggot
Oh no, feelings!
>shows no attraction to any of the sexy alien women around him
They're his family
>is a fucking push over
In season 1 and 2 maybe
>ignores his dad to hang around people just as insufferable as him like onion or connie
Connie is his BFF and Onion doesn't even talk
>is emotionally stunted and cries over/isnt interested in things boys his age should love like violent movies and women
It's another "user thinks he's a pediatrician and knows what's best for kids" episode
>plays a faggy ukele while his father has a bunch of old rock tapes and records he could listen to instead.
He can literally play guitar you sperglord. He has perfect pitch too.
>They're his family
Not biological so hes a cuck for not going after them
>Connie is his BFF and Onion doesn't even talk
Connies an awful character and he still hangs around onion too much
>It's another "user thinks he's a pediatrician and knows what's best for kids" episode
If youre a sensitive snowflake like steven is at 14 then you have a problem
>He has perfect pitch
I don't find his singing unpleasant but it's still a teenage boy muddling through songs written by Sugar (who has no musical training), like they're supposed to be rough and aren't a good metric of vocal skill.
Connie could literally do nothing but be on screen and you'd still throw a temper tantrum and I ain't even touching the rest of that mongoloid shit you call an argument.
Stop shitposting and for the love of god
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I mean more like he can tell instantly what pitch something is. He did it with Peridot when they sang Peace and Love on Planet Earth.
>Connie could literally do nothing but be on screen and you'd still throw a temper tantrum
Yeah, because shes an insufferable annoyance
You have a problem if you're hounding a fictional kid for not being manly enough amigo
>Forgives the Space Nazis
>Bubbles Bismuth
>short attention span
>never ask questions
>is pink diamond's son
>doesn't forgive Kevin, forgives Andy
These are what I can think up. But, I haven't watched the show in a while. So, I know there's more.
>Not biological so hes a cuck for not going after them
>doesn't realize that living with a woman in a non-romantic context demystifies all of her bullshit
>think a guy would want to fuck some broad after a decade of using the toilet after her wretched shits (only for Amethyst), suffering her constant emotional breakdowns, having her nag and nag and nag at you for the slightest shit, seeing every little flaw and pimple on full display day in day out
I dunno about you, but that would just be more of an incentive to fuck the stress out of characters like pearl or amethyst.
>Fucking Pearl
That's a good way to get called Rose.
>Hasn't forgiven anyone
>The CG's decided to keep her bubbled taking the decision out of his hands, he unbubbles her later
>???
>Not so much as of S4
>???
>He's on speaking terms with Kevin and even sort of friendly towards him as of S5
>Forgave White Diamond for genocide
>He still bubbled Bismuth
And those last two rebuttals are excuses.
>Still hasn't forgiven anyone
>Bismuth tried to kill him
>An explanation of what actually happened in the show is an "excuse"
Well, if you're willing to throw out somebody's points, you're obviously going to win eventually. Enjoy your smooth koala brain.
What arguments? There are no arguments here, just opinions. Typical SU bashing opinions that have no basis in reality. It's like reading an Enclopedia Dramatica cover of the SU Wikipedia page.
Hey, don't blame me for your bad reading comprehension. Though, in this instance, it's less stupidity and more immaturity. Throwing out arguments, because someone pointing out the flaws in your favourite show, is what I expect from the emotionally stunted cretins that still enjoy this show.
>these complaints arent accurate because theyre too mean about the show
Hi steven, you have to be 18 to post here
Steven was a good character in Season 1A because he was a retarded kid learning how retarded he is, and he shows signs of growing the fuck up in Season 1B.
Then the show spiralled out of control into a mess.
Still waiting for you to prove me wrong. You can't, but I'm enjoying watching you deflect instead of actually doing so.
>Things that are true are, actually, false!
That's you, that's what you sound like. Sorry if that's too "mean".
I have no problem with the show deciding it wanted to have Steven solve problems without violence, but the general removal of decent action and Steven never actually growing up is annoying. The whole hugging himself thing was terrible.
You're the one meant to prove me when. Trying to fall back on reactionary talking points like deflecting is craven.
Stating: Still hasn't forgiven anyone
Isn't a point. It's you plugging your ears and screaming in my general direction.
But there is violence involved though. He always fights his enemies before the talking shit out part happens.
So find me a part where he actually says "I forgive you, White Diamond". That's you anons usual stance when it comes to trying to shit on characters like Lapis for not actually saying "sorry" instead of fixing her behaviour through actions. Find me that line or any variation thereof and I'll apologize and as a bonus admit you have a bigger dick. You deserve that much for doing homeworkd.
>That's you, that's what you sound like. Sorry if that's too "mean".
>its false because i dont like it
Not how it works dumbass
I said
>general removal of decent action
Not
>removal of physical conflict
People expected the action to get better, but it degraded over time.
No it's false because it's actually false. You said you haven't seen most of the show, why are you trying to act like you have and you know what you're talking about?
Not to be a contrarian here but who watched SU and thought the action would get better over time? I don't mind it but even when Ian was there it lacked weight and decent composition.
I'm so glad I don't have to put up with anyone as cowardly as you in real life. Someone who has to argue semantics, just to protect their favourite children's cartoon show, doesn't deserve to have their favourite show.
I had six points. You threw out two. And now you've goaded me into arguing about only one of them. As you continue to move goalposts.
Here's the thing. Not bubbling White Diamond is forgiving here. She's the cause of all of his problems and he brought her to a spring, along with everyone she's hurt.
Any arguing with that point would require you to argue with the semantics of forgiveness.
>No it's false because it's actually false. You said you haven't seen most of the show, why are you trying to act like you have and you know what you're talking about?
Youre talking to a different user, ive seen the full series. Steven is still disinterested in the most interesting parts around him, connies an annoying noncharacter and while im glad he forgave bismuth i hope they show kore of her next seasons since i liked her.
I answered your points and two of them didn't even make sense, don't pretend like you have anything worth contributing here. You haven't proven anything and still are dancing around actually finding proof. "It happened because of what I saw" is not proof. Wouldn't pass it court, won't pass here.
What the fuck is
>He brought her to a hot spring along with everyone she's hurt
supposed to prove anyway? She accidentally did a thing, took responsibility for it and fixed the problem before fucking off back home?
Jesus fucking Christ. You're just a bucket of talking points, aren't you. Ain't got two brain cells to rub together, but you'll sure as heck charge in to protect your favourite show with all the cowardly tricks you picked up from hanging around Yea Forums long enough.
Why didn't my two points make any sense? Why couldn't you just say that, instead of using it as an excuse to conveniently ignore them. When did critiquing art suddenly become a legal process, when that's not how you would approach art.
You accuse me of dancing around the issue. But, on this one point, where you think you got me, you won't let go and would rather ignore the points that you can't actually argue against. Grow a spine and argue like an adult or get off of Yea Forums.
That's a lot of words but I don't see any proof for the claim you initially made about Steven forgiven the Diamonds instead of killing or bubbling them. By that logic every cop who doesn't beat a criminal of any level into a coma or straight up murders them is also "forgiving them". Hurry up and provide the dialogue already we're going in circles here.
>It's a /Pol/ thread
>sexy aliens
Rocks arent people
>Still desperately clinging to the one point you think you have.
You know that he never openly says that he forgives White Diamond. So, you think you've got me. Even though that contradicts what you pointed out earlier. When you said that Steven is on sort of friendly terms with Kevin. Implying that he forgave him on some level. Despite him never openly forgiving Kevin.
Steven did forgive White Diamond and that is a flaw of his character and the show. White Diamond was the villain and he never brought her to task for any of the things she did.
Excuse me, my uncle was a slab of granite and I don't like your tone.
>You did this, so you have to fix this!
Steven (steven-universe.fandom.com
That is proof against what you've said. You have yet to provide anything that contradicts it.
>steven-universe.fandom.com
Slight correction:
>You did this! So you have to do something!
Stay on task, instead of pivoting to this one point you think you have.
Did Steven imply forgiveness on Kevin, in the same manner that he implied forgiveness on White Diamond or did he not openly forgive White Diamond; in the same way that he didn't openly forgive Kevin either?
Forgiving Kevin isn't an issue since he's not seen as a threat. Not sure what your point is here and you're the one who has to prove these in the first place.
>who watched SU and thought the action would get better over time?
Me. Fights became less frequent in 1B and were generally better animated. That combined with the surge of popularity can correlate to future polish or sustained quality. It's weird to see a show that's doing well get consistently worse at action as it progresses.
Less budget and boarders who lack experience in boarding/animating fight scenes. Even typical fights in SU pre-S3 were more like clashes than anything, the most complex it ever got was Jasper vs Garnet and that was more like a music video than anything.
>Tricky user, moving those goal posts.
By your own counter-points, either my first point about white diamond is right or my last point about Kevin is right. One of my points is, by your own argument, wrong and the other is right. So, which is it.
If I forgive one person have I forgiven everyone? Is that the point you're trying to make here? Your posts are barely even English anymore. Make sense please.
I know, I'm just explaining my expectation. Why would anyone expect them to hire bad boarders?
I should be calling you smooth brain user. But, I know you're just faking stupidity to not have to actually accept the mistake you made.
Seriously, the most spineless person I've ever had the misfortune of meeting.
It's not an unreasonable expectation, I just don't see it as a vital part of the show is all. But if you were to tell me they were putting more emphasis on action I'd be happy as a clam.
> things boys his age should love like violent movies and women
I bet you are amerimutt incel.
To me it felt like better action would be a necessity going forward. Not combat, just characters moving fluidly in tense situations and avoiding danger. I didn't think it would drag its heels the way it did.
I feel like Season 5 had a bit more energy in its episodes with a couple of exception. The writing wasn't as polished as, say, S2, but the actual tone and vibe was more early SU than S3/S4. Now those two definitely felt lethargic at times for sure.
And i bet youre a eurocuck filled to the brim with onions
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