LAS MALVINAS
LAS MALVINAS
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SON INGLES!
The people living there have repeatedly voted to remain as British subjects and the votes haven't even been close.
There is no other question, it does not matter what Argentina or Britain herself wants, the people who actually live there get the only say in the matter. We won't even bring the cowardly, almost war-crime, attacks into the equation for your sake Argentina. Just let it rest.
>*Laughs in RAF*
Territorial disputes aside, I found that this episode had pretty good songs.
>Britain gives the Falklands back...
>to Chile
I think the butthurt would be visible from space.
Galtieri is my waifu
The British should do that just for the bants. I want so see that amount of nuclear argie butt devastation.
>literally only like, 2 countries believe they're argentinian
>everyone else says they're british
>the citizens have constantly voted to remain british
Argentinacucks still ETERNALLY Seething
The world is Castizo clay
You ain't getting shit off us by the way.
Not unless Corbyn gets into power in which case, fuck.
The last seat of the viceroyalty was Montevideo...
We get it, you like them drunk blind.
but they belong to Argentina, being conquered and plundered by the british pirates don't make it their property. I know murricans will side with the brits because that's the same way you guys invaded Hawaii but come on.
>always assumed that there were natives on the falklands before european colonization so felt a bit wishy washy about the whole thing even though I still believe it probably be down to the inhabitants
>look it up recently
>there was literally no one fucking there before yurop showed up and it changed hands like 6 times before argentina showed up and tried to settle
why is argentina still pissed about this lmao
>conquered by pirates
fun fact: they were initially claimed for argentina by a literal, actual pirate
an american pirate no less
>being conquered and plundered by the british pirates don't make it their property
Yeah it does actually, that's how the vast majority of territorial aquisitions through history have been made.
Also, pic related. Spain wasn't the original settlers and Argentina didn't even exist when they were discovered, Britain has held them for more than 2/3 of the time they have even been known.
The idea that Argentina has some kind of transcendently "legitimate" claim to the Falklands is laughable.
Forgot muh pic
The only reason blood was spilled was because the dictators literally needed something to distract the populace from the disastrous economics crisis in the country. This is a fact known to most Argentinians and is taught in school yet they're still bitter about it and act as if its theirs.
Argentina itself on the other hand actually was stolen from it's native peoples.
It's hilarious how well it worked too, as soon as they had a nice 'nationalistic' cause to rally around the Argentinian people all but forgot that they were under the dictatorship of a fucking military junta that was operation death squads and had run their country into the ground.
>USA
The hell happened there?
>being conquered and plundered by the british pirates don't make it their property
No one who says this bullshit ever think through what they're actually fucking saying.
If conquest was declared to be an illegitimate method of aquiring land then there is virtually no existing modern state that would remain intact.
Catalonia was conquered by Castilla. That's the only reason no one gives a single fuck about their independece.
>Making a thread which is 100% guaranteed to devolve into /pol/ tier discussion
Enjoy posting before the jannies take this down i guess
>This thread getting taken down
>While and are still up
Yeah okay
>user daydreams of being a jannie again
Sad!
>literally only like, 2 countries believe they're argentinian
Who is the second one?
*inglesas.
"Inglés" is only used for singular masculine words or to refer to the language.
Falklands War was aesthetic as fuck, DPM camo, FN FAL's, and berets are a damn sexy combo.
>>literally only like, 2 countries believe they're argentinian
Eh, that's not true. All of Latin America, Russia, China and Spain recognise the islands as Argentinean. Even Obama used the name "Malvinas" instead of "Falklands" one
We posting war aesthetics now?
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Argentina can't even have a good economy and they think they can have an island, and the islanders hate Argentina with all their heart.
It's funny and sad that just because they sent soldiers to die there (because they were completely unprepared for a war) they think they any right to claim them.
They should just shut up and enjoy the ride they have until the reach Venezuela's economical crisis.
Woah, I didn't know there were so many Chileans on this board (there is no fucking way some brits are the ones making this post). Never forget 10/10/2017.
Y'all are talking about Malvinas/Falklands, but can we talk about the cartoon?
What do you think about Zamba?
I always thought it was shit, but at least it had some good historical references (not refering at THAT episode, but some kids who watched it learnt more about history and culture).
Anyway, I wish there was an argentinian cartoon that wasn't too cringy.
Chileans should post about earthquakes and tsunamis because that's the only thing they are good at.
Reminder that Karl Marx appeared in a children cartoon.
In the Latin American dub they call them Malvinas.
Does Chile love or hate Argentina?
There's nothing wrong with Karl Marx. He was just a guy who criticized unfettered capitalism. He didn't run any countries under fascist rule.
I really don't get how any country can claim any territory that isn't currently in their hands, especially when they originally got that land by conquering it too. Unless said land was native to you for millennia or some bullshit you don't really have a "legitimate" claim on it. This shit and Palestine boggles me mind how they can claim a moral high ground.
we hate/love them. Like a fucking marriage.
What is divide and conquer
is this where the gif of the laughing british soldier and a kid is from?
He was a faggot ass "intellectual" who inspired those who would come to preside over the most repressive, brutal, and lethal regimes in history
The closest thing it's the relationship swedesand danes have, pure hate at least there's more europeans involved, in that case Argies and Chileans pretend to be bros just to be assholes towards anyone else from latinamerica
If a relevant comic is posted, the nigger tranny janny can't take down the thread
The could just move to the UK then.
Anyway, nothing here belongs to /con/, reportes.
Sounds almost like Argentina-Brazil relationship
That Ron is a top lad
Is Argentina just universally tsun-tsun?
I kind of dislike the implication that he would ln't have been expelled for rearranging that other kid's face had he not punched the gym teacher in the junk. I suppose both are serious charges, but it's not the fat fuck's blood on his knuckles.
user, this /int/bait, not /pol/bait. There's a difference
Argentina fucking sucs. I live there I should know
>he fell for the "Hitler was a lefty" meme
Unironically cringin at ya
Nah, not many argentinians hate brazilians. Otherwise, it's common to say "traitor" to any chilean who comes here. But only cringy people who is still butthurt for the Malvinas thing do that.
stalin, mao, pol pot
did you skip a page?
Argentina actually likes Brazil whenever the discussion isn't about soccer.
Argentina hates Chile due to the Falklands war, they hate Paraguay and Bolivia due to racism, they think that they should annex Uruguay, Colombia is something something Pablo Escobar, I think they like Peru (?), Venezuela is seen the same way they are seen on the rest of the world, nobody remembers that Guyana, Suriname and the French Guiana exist. The country is split between those who like to praise the United Kingdom but they will never admit it, and those who like to praise the USSR but won't admit it either so they just praise Che Guevara and Fidel Castro.
And that's it for the Falklands chapters. The rest of the volume is some fruity romance and a foetus lasering its way out of Butcher's wife's uterus after she got raped by Superman. Typical Garth Ennis stuff, but outside of the capeshit context, it is a pretty good war story by itself which he does much better at
Thanks, user
You Argentinian bastard. This is what should happen to you:
This scene is a good analogy for how the war went for Argentina
>go in full of bravado and shouting insults
>end up begging for mercy and squealing like a stuck pig as you get mercilessly bayoneted to death on a cold mountainside by Angl*id subhuman
I foresee this becoming very useful over on Yea Forums
Also, nobody fucking calls the United Kingdom "Reino Unido". Everyone just fucking calls them Inglaterra (England). Go ask for Wales on the streets. People either don't know where the fuck that country is or they just tell you "Hey, wasn't an important Real Madrid player born there or something?". This happens on even history books.
Soccer is to blame for this.
BOLUDO
Filibustering used to be a favorite American pastime.
>we live in a society
Tremendo virgo
Thread needs more cute girls.
I'm not Argentinean, I am uruguayan. I was just pointing that I know about Argentina since we are provincia anyway.
How does a cow managed to type in a computer!?
so what is this from? looks interesting
never mind found it. its that boys comic ive seen on here before.
can i vote to be british too?
there was nobody to steal from once we were done genociding them
No no no no no no, you don't get it! They are British citizens when it matters. Usually they don't, they are just some shitty brown people we conquered! God bless the queen and Margaret Thatcher!
>/int/
>/pol/
what's the difference?
Argie here, I feel like most of our new generations dont care. Personally I feel that whatever right we have for them doesnt matter since Britain has military superiority, so what is there to do?
I do disagree however with the "people living there are british" argument, they can move out.
Also to make my post Yea Forums related, watch Puerto Papel, great cartoon.
its actually a chilean-argentinian cartoon I believe. Not really sure.
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>Este user es peor que el tuerto
Why didn't the Argentinians just invade the falklands during WW2? They even had a plan drawn up back then. Churchill won't give a damn about those islands while Nazi Germany Is causing a ruckus and The Japs are invading Britain's more important over sea territories. That gives them a good 4 years to fortify and by the time the brits are done with the germans and Japs, they would be too tiered to do anything about it.
>The hell happened there?
In 1831, Vernet attempted to assert his monopoly on seal hunting rights. This led him to capture the American ships Harriet, Superior and Breakwater. As a reprisal, the United States consul in Buenos Aires sent Captain Silas Duncan of the USS Lexington to recover the confiscated property. After finding what he considered proof that at least four American fishing ships had been captured, plundered, and even outfitted for war, Duncan took seven prisoners aboard the Lexington and charged them with piracy.
Also taken on board, Duncan reported, "were the whole of the (Falklands') population consisting of about forty persons, with the exception of some 'gauchos', or cowboys who were encamped in the interior." The group, principally German citizens from Buenos Aires, "appeared greatly rejoiced at the opportunity thus presented of removing with their families from a desolate region where the climate is always cold and cheerless and the soil extremely unproductive". However, about 24 people did remain on the island, mainly gauchos and several Charrúa Indians, who continued to trade on Vernet's account.
>they can move out.
That's like saying everyone in Misiones should move out so you can give it back to Paraguay
They can, if they dont want to be paraguayan. Id say you first give it back to Paraguay, then you sort the population nationality issues either by inmigrating paraguayans or by kicking out people.
I mean, to be honest, from start I agree these ideas are stupid, falklands will continue being british and misiones will continue being argentinian. What im saying is that the feelings of nationality of their populations dont really feel like a compelling argument. If a land is taken, either by legal means or by conquest, whatever the people living there feel its ultimately irrelevant if they dont do anything about it, and if they do and succeed, then the conquest failed or the legality of that it wasnt effective. Plus those things never happen so again, its pointless. England will never say "oh sure argies here have the falklands", no matter how many world organizations support argentina. The mere argument of this has no point, or so I feel. People here dwell on nostalgia because they were the ones who experienced the war.
>Id say you first give it back to Paraguay, then you sort the population nationality issues either by inmigrating paraguayans or by kicking out people.
Oh yeah, that'll go over amicably. Like Belfast or Tel Aviv.
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Well, I do agree it could never work. My argument was only about whether or not the feelings of nationality of people are a valid argument or not. Id say however that there is never an amicable way of solving land disputes.
I would love to see Argentina in suicide watch.
>Id say however that there is never an amicable way of solving land disputes.
I'd argue against that, but I can't really think of a good method myself.
wasn't karls fault in the end, that's like blaming Jesus for the crusades.
>There's nothing wrong with Karl Marx.
He was a deadbeat and his critisism is moot because he falsified his data
Falkland islands has been English for almost 200 years.
UK was willing to negotiate until 1982, when the argies decided to blitz the island and then got cucked when reinforcements came.
I wouldn't worry too much about UK keeping the falklands for too long, they are cucking themselves and I'm sure in some years threatening with public shaming will have them return the lands that they have been protecting for 200 years
>I'm sure in some years threatening with public shaming will have them return the lands that they have been protecting for 200 years
The english can be many things user, but i doubt they would be the kind of cucks that do this. Return land is not something the english are known for.
as it should be.
You would be surprised with how cucked they are actually
You mean the whole Brexit and muslim rape gans thing? That is an internal matter isn't it?
How many times have the UK been cucked when it comes to international matters? Outside of America and maybe France?
>I do disagree however with the "people living there are british" argument, they can move out.
>being ignorant of international law
Deportation or forcible transfer of population is defined as a crime against humanity by the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. Not that this would matter to a fucking subhuman Sudaca. Fucking son of a bitch, cocksucker, piece of garbage
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>I do disagree however with the "people living there are british" argument, they can move out.
You've captured my exact sentiments on why the US should invade Canada. The people living there can simply move out.
based Chile
why didnt the Americans help out in the falklands? they had a carrier nearby.
It works for Xinjiang, but of course the Argentine roaches think like Chinksects. Monkey-eating Brazilians are higher on the evolutionary ladder than Argentinean animals
Both countries were allies
The US helped the UK during the war but they also supported the Argentinean military junta because they were killing communists.
They lost the sovereignty claim for one island in the Indian Ocean they occupied a long time ago. They have to return them to Mauritius.
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Never say never, user.
>They have to return them to Mauritius.
No they don't, it merely condemned them for having it at best it's a strongly worded letter
>British diplomats said the non-binding resolution would have little practical impact.
Brazil. Though most of South America on paper supports the Argentina claim so as not to have them chimp out. All that really means is they occasionally ask Britain to negotiate, which Britain ignores. And everyone gets to go on with their lives without pissing off either country.
/int/ is fun.
…Laslow?
uwu
Could some Argie please explain to me what the argument for the Falklands belonging to them even is?
As far as I can tell the only connection is geographic proximity and because for one period in history the falklands were controlled by spain, but if anything wouldn't that make it spanish territory rather than argentinian?
That's like saying the USA should control India because both countries were once british colonies.
They were never Argentinian though?
At a most charitable view of him, he was a parasite that never worked a day in his life, supported by wealthy parents and friends, yet had the audacity to claim to understand what the workers wanted or needed.
If you use the term "left wing" properly then yes he objectively was.
>They are British citizens when it matters. Usually they don't, they are just some shitty brown people we conquered!
Those islands didn't have any native "brown people", they were literally uninhabited originally.
This, Falklanders are white unlike Argies
Oh no! They lost a vote at the UN! Clearly this means things are happening!
This
>people with British roots want the islands to remain British
Whoa
Fights between students are pretty common so unless it escalates to a kid having to go to the hospital they don't usually get expelled, usually with that "boys will be boys" mentality. Beating up a teacher is a lot more rare and it's usually a more serious offense when a kid starts beating up adults.
>they can move out
So you'd have no problem with the UK invading Argentina and forcing you to just leave and move somewhere else too?
I invite you to read the rest of my posts. But in general terms, my answer is, why would it matter my opinion if UK invades? Either we manage to fight back or we dont. I agree its a disaster, and I dont advocate for it, im strictly saying than in an invasion or appropiation of land the feelings of the population arent an argument.
There's no point in reading the rest of your posts if you believe that might makes right. I'd totally support the British in removing all argies from existence. They have nukes, you don't.
Argies are not smart people.
>el mestizaje maligno
Unlike bongs when they tried to invade Buenos Aires, right?
>Could some Argie please explain to me what the argument for the Falklands belonging to them even is?
brainwashed population thanks to Peronist scum
Why are Argentinians so obsessed over some tiny fucking rocks in the southern Atlantic?
>inb4 strategic advantage
Well, they tried to conquer the mainland and failed. So the little rock with penguins was all they have left.
en.wikipedia.org
You only own territory if you can hold it.
Nah, it obviously doesnt make it "right". But what would it matter? I dont support it, but by that point you either fight or you dont. Feelings have no practical use, In this invasion hyphothetic example. They arent an argument because arguments again invasions are pointless, its a fight. Do I support invasions? No. Do I consider the feelings of people are an argument valid against land appropiation in any form? No, they are pointless. Might doesnt make right, but if its there, it has no compelling response other than might. I dont think its that difficult to get.
But Im out anyways since anons here are just dying to take my posts in the worst, most emotional way possible to hate. As if someone in a country with pretty much no army would be happy to support might makes right.
>National SOCIALIST
Use your head, dummy
>It's called the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, how can it be a dictatorship?????
You fucking idiot, open a history book for once. Hitler was far-right. He hated communism and socialism.
>River_Plate
RIVER CAMPEON 2018/19
09/12/2018
ESE FUE EL DÍA QUE BOCA MURIÓ.
>Unlike bongs when they tried to invade Buenos Aires, right?
>A raid on a colony of a temporary ally of Napoleon gets driven off
>Argies think this proves how strong they are and bring it up in every discussion forever
That does look interesting. Not that there are any sites I could watch this on.
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man,i really hate zamba, they should shut down paka paka,
Looks cute
Boca pecho frío
I was under the impression Argentinians liked to LARP as Europeans, so it's a bit interesting to see them depict themselves like that in the cartoon. weirdly honest in a sense
>he thinks brutal, total government control is right wing
RiBer never forget
>argentina talking shit about other counteries
don't you have some more uneducated farmers to take in?
It's not exclusively right wing but its still right wing
>big grumbmurt = gommnursm
Not far enough, more like
>any gubmint = gommunism
>/k/ memes give me the impression of the Falklands being a complete clown war, and after browsing through some of the instances within it, I'd tend to agree
>Argentina friendo portrays it as a meatgrinder held for propaganda by dictators
Its still entertaining but my sympathies go out to them.
Argentina is white!
it has fish, oil and sheeps
the goverment taxed farmers too much so we dont farm anymore
Isn't that a bad thing? To not have any farmers?
oh shit i've never read this before and i've gone through the boys like 5 times now
who needs food when you can sustain yourself solely on salt about the english owning an island?
thads is a common theme in this war the arg soldiers were mosly unprepare for combat but indeed they do some damage
the heads are other history bein blame for missmanage the war in general