What killed the Cartoon Network renaissance?
Cartoon Network Renaissance
>What killed the Cartoon Network renaissance?
Adventure Time.
Adventure Time wasn't the renaissance it was hot garbage the whole time
For the other things, CN stopped targeting that before Adult Swim/barely not AS crowd and not only tried to focus CN on one show but focus it on a younger audience
Executives greenlighting bland shows like We Bare Bears and Craig of the Creek.
Unironically Adventure Time and Regular Show.
What was the renaissance exactly?
Chowder
Flapjack
Adventure Time
Regular Show
>What killed the Cartoon Network renaissance?
Dexter's last season.
AT was a good comfy adventure fun cartoon on seasons 1-3. The rest was shit
RS, AT, and Gumball all went up their own asses past at or past season 3.
Fuck off, contrarians for the sake of being contrarians doomers, you're wrong.
Christina Miller.
I'm going to say that forcing content out of people might have done it. Also, unironically, Calarts. You can really feel a shift in quality and tone between cartoons that were made by Craig McCracken, CH Greenblatt, Lauren Fost and all those old guys. If you look in the credits of those older shows like PPG, Dexter's Lab, those shows from the late 90s and early 00s eras had a lot of writers and artists that used to work on a lot of those shows in minor roles before stepping up to get bigger roles in later shows. Around the time of Adventure Time and the leave of Pen Ward, you see AT's team split into smaller groups to work on their own shows, and then? An influx of cartoons that have fairly similar, safe styles with writing that often seems afraid to push a joke that could seem 'mean spirited', so they can't be too funny. The morals and themes of these newer shows suffer from this problem as well, afraid to put any characters in actual peril, physically or emotionally, as the consequences of their actions or the actions of those around them. Now, I might just be talking shit, I might just be selectively remembering only the best of the shows of the past because 90% of all things are shit, but this is how it seems from my perspective. Maybe somebody else can offer a better opinion with evidence to support it. Pic unrelated.
>two or three shows that had pseudo-continuous storylines and both devolved into shark-jumped low-quality clusterfucks
>"renaissance"
I enjoyed RS as for Gumball it just sadly ends with a whimper.
content creators (Ward, Sugar, Nefcy, etc) giving control to their tumblr-pandering subordinates
Wasn't Adventure Time the start of the Renaissance? I remember most of the shows prior to AT being shit live action shit like Out of Fred's head and Destroy! Build! Destroy!
Yes. It was honestly the first good CN show since Chowder and when CN really started peddling CNReal over cartoons.
Same thing thats killing anything remotely entertaining.
Listening to sjw rhetoric resulting in pandering representation taking away from the heart of any writing.
MY MOM!
Millennials obsessed with drama.
>What killed the Cartoon Network renaissance?
What are you defining as Cartoon Network's renaissance?
The Cartoon-Cartoon era which was around 1999 to 2006 could probably be considered the renaissance for CN and the earlier Hanna Barbera rerun years could be seen as the Middle Ages.
Really if you're calling the CC era the renaissance then Chowder and Flapjack would've been the true end of that era.
"On March 6, 2014, Stuart Snyder was removed as president and COO of Turner's Animation"
-Wikipedia
The "Dark Ages" which in CN's situation exist after their renaissance. This is the "Out of Jimmy's Head" era. This lasted up until 2014, when said quote happened and things began changing for the better again.
Right now CN is in limbo. RS is over. Steven is over. AT is over. Gumball is ending. The newer shows don't really shine as brightly as their predecessors. I'm not really sure where it's going. Personally... the better cartoons are on Adult Swim these days, by a mile.
We call it Teen Titans Go Over-saturation.
The first era from PPG to Flap Jack died because of new management caused by the Boston incident.
The Second era from Adventure Time to Steven Universe died because of over-saturation of TTG and the rise of internet, like how TV killed the radio the internet will kill TV.
When "fans" began running the asylum; everyone started working in silos with no direction or feedback.
The real answer is Tumblr. You may think I'm joking, but I'm actually not. Tumblr is directly responsible for ruining and influencing a lot of what we see today. Shows like Adventure Time were ruined because of tumblr pandering and later shows were created entirely as tumblr.
This guy took the words out of my mouth.
The renaissance was Cartoon-Cartoons starting in 95 where we got stuff like Dexter's Lab, PPG, Johnny Bravo, EEnE, Courage, I am Weasel/Cow and Chicken, Billy & Mandy, Kids Next Door, Samurai Jack, Time Squad, Megas XLR, etc all the way to mid 00's.
To say shows like Adventure Time, Regular Show and Gumball are the Renaissance when their overall quality pales in comparison is just sad
>The newer shows don't really shine as brightly as their predecessors.
I put a lot of faith into OK K.O.! but you're right. It never really had what it takes to be a phenomenon or a classic. Bare Bears seems alright but I just can't seem to get into it. Same with Victor & Valentino or Craig of the Creek.
It's up to Mao Mao now.
The copper age is hopefully going to get good.
>Steven is over
The main storyline is over and s6 is confirmed
>Gumball is ending
Actually its series finale had just aired, but a movie may be happening.
>Pic Related
But overall, I can agree with what you are saying. Most shows aside from the 4 you mentioned have either been mediocre or outright bad
Pandering to lesbians and literal circus freaks from tumblr coupled with Christina Miller and her feminist bullshit.
>when their overall quality pales in comparison is just sad
Yeah no. Dexter lost most of its quality after the first season (the movie was great tho). PPG went to shit after the movie. Johnny Bravo had a mediocre first season, a good S2-S3 and a bad final season. Cow and Chicken and Time Squad were mediocre. Regular Show, Gumball and AT had 3 good seasons before their fall. That is a good record by CN standards. You are also ignoring the action cartoons we got, like Generator Rex.
Terrible writers.
This was the end of the boom.
Clarence grew on me surprisingly. I thought it'd annoy the crap out of me. Was it good or was I simply nostalgic forr my similar childhood.
can we get together and start a streaming channel of golden era CN shows? Billy and Mandy, Johnny Bravo, Courage, Foster's Home, Time Squad, Mike Lu & Og, Dexter's Lab, Cow & Chicken, EEnE... hell, Class of 3000, Chowder, even Angelo Rules?
These are most of the show aired and/or produced by CN this decade. Discuss
>[I WANT MORE] [S1-3 ok] [Pretty good, would have been better on [as]] [Better early seasons, still not bad] [Good concept, peaked S2 finale, trash now]
>[Surprisingly good, neat idea, decent execution] [better than average] [Never watched]X3
>[Best Scooby-Doo to date, 10/10] [ok] [Modern GI Joe] [I wanted to like it, but it never really found it's footing] [Hysterical. They knew no one was paying attention and took advantage]
>[10/10, best on this list, and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise] [Entertaining enough, surprised they didn't apply the sitcom format to other IPs. Tina best girl] [Never cared for it]X2 [If that's the original, I remember liking it]
>[Trash] [...potential, but it squanders a lot of it] [never got into]X2 [can't get past the Set McFarlane animation]
>[I like it, but it probably won't hold up. A little too much drama] [Grew on me. Probably stockholm syndrome] [It still hurts this got cancelled] [Pretty good, no Timmverse] [Surprisingly decent, Magpie's got a nice set of knockers]
>Never got into any of these, but the first looks like Concessions and the last looks like an abomination.
Let's say a 15/35 success rate. The ones that hit it out of the park for me had two or less season, while the ones I didn't like went on and on. Probably could read something into that.
>Sonic Boom had over 100 episodes
Still weirds me out it got that far.
>tl;dr 15/35 success rate for CN in the last 10 years.
Bulk Bogan
Have sex
Unequivocally Rebecca Sugar ruining a fun adventure comedy with MUH FEELS and DEEPEST LORE, then jumping ship to do her own show that forwent ran on MUH FEELS.
time. like anything else
RS was the only one that didn't get up its own ass.