I know they already glossed over him inventing time travel, but whatever. Does anyone have a bigger issue that he literally created UNIVERSAL teleportation?
Not even in just the fucking Earth can they teleport wherever they want. This fucker made it so with time travel they can INSTANTANEOUSLY travel to ANYWHERE in the universe...as evident by Teleporting Nebula, Rhodey, Clint, and Nat to Morag in god knows where in the Andromeda galaxy, and Rocket and Thor to fucking Asgard.
What the FUCK??? This may be the most influential, effective, universe-changing technology of all time. And it's not like it disappeared with Tony's death, because they still use a time machine afterwards that Banner knows how to use.
Did you just shut your eyes during the scenes where they fly the Milano?
Owen Hill
Leave it to Disney to be inconsistent with their shitty tech. This is one of the reasons why I view Disney MCU fans as drones. They really can't explain why the fuck Tony just didn't invent the cure for cancer immediately because all his robots are crazy know-it-all brainiacs
Sebastian Martinez
they teleported to Morag. And then only Clint and Nat flew the Milano to Vormir, probably just because the film wanted to combine Morag/Vormir into one "team" to make it easier for the audience. Stupid bitch.
Jacob Wood
>they teleported to Morag They didn't, your memory is fucked. They fly it away from Earth on the way to Morag then ditch Rhodey and Nebula there.
Chase Taylor
Why didn't they just use a spaceship to time travel therefore saving up on Pym Particle usage? Thanos was very efficient with it.
Bentley Reed
You are wrong, they go straight to Morag. And besides, what about Thor and Rocket going straight to Asgard? And the fact that everyone can teleport straight from wherever they are back to Earth?
Justin Rivera
Even if you assert limitations on it (one of the teleporters has to be there that was near there at that time) it is pretty game changing.
Of course Strange teleports from Titan too, so...
Joshua Phillips
If Nebula and her team went to Vormir and Morag way before 2014, like say before Thanos was born, everything would be avoided because they wouldn't encounter him (and also past Nebula wouldn't be alive either). Why did they travel to 2014? The Power Stone was in that temple for a really long time, and the soul stone was always in vormir
Owen Collins
>You are wrong I am not. >And besides, what about Thor and Rocket going straight to Asgard? Stormbreaker can summon the bifrost. And the fact that everyone can teleport straight from wherever they are back to Earth? They lock on to the launch pad they started from.
I know paying attention is hard, but it's not the movie's fault you have ADD.
Ryan Watson
Creating another plot hole in why he needed Stark to "steer" them home back in Infinity War. All the drones on this board said he was limited to just on Earth and his portals had a range, well guess not.
Jayden James
No, they don't. They have a whole "who's been to space before" moment and everything.
Ryan Cooper
What is the purpose of the Launch Pad? Captain America and Stark could travel from a random street in New York to go to the 70's. And in the end the future Cap just travels to wherever
Dylan Watson
It needs Pym particles to function, so it's not going to go wide any time soon.
Robert Flores
that's literally from the beginning of the movie, when they fly the Benathar to the Garden to kill Thanos. Please pay attention
Tyler Watson
Oh my God are u really having a company wars autistic meltdown over a plot hole
Juan Wilson
>What is the purpose of the Launch Pad To bring them back to their proper timeline, if they didn't they'd end up just quantum realming to the future of the offshoot timeline they create by taking the stones.
Blake Hall
Clearly they got more Pym Particles since they used it at the end to send cap back in time. And Dr. Pym is alive now
Asher Collins
Pym was unsnapped, he can make more if he wants.
I want to see it brought up that that Tony springboarded off of his tech to create the GPS in the next Ant-Man movie. Not sure if he'd be mad that Tony aped his shit or begrudgingly respectful that he used it to help save the universe.
Jose Walker
it bothered me that Hulk's attempts were played for laughs. Give banner something, jesus fuck. Hulk has been bigly mismanaged since Avengers.
Justin Howard
Why would it bother you? Didn't he state that it was well out of his wheelhouse and that they were just kind of winging it?
Adrian Thomas
He can invent the cure for cancer, but he just wants to build suits.
Ayden Martinez
I'd love to hear Hank's thoughts about that. It's interesting that he actually showed up for Tony's funeral.
Jace Adams
Then why didnt we see old man cap emerge from the machine? He went into an alt time to be with peggy, by your logic he HAS to emerge from the machine to come back to our time. And we didnt see that.
Jackson Ross
He didn't invent time travel he just perfected it. He also based his work over Pym's work and Scott's own time travel and the fact that he told Tony it was possible.
Honestly the credit should go to Hank, Scott, the rat, and Tony.
Asher Myers
>changing the past doesn't change the present, because all of that already happened How does that make any sense? What if, for example, when cap decided to stay in the past he had children would the people of the present have no knowledge of them?
Gavin Allen
No, he fixed all the offshoot timelines and made sure not to change anything further.
Connor Diaz
It'd generate an alternate timeline that has no influence at all whatsoever on the primary timeline. Attempting to go into the past just creates branching realities.
Evan Ramirez
Okay, that doesn’t explain any of the plot holes
Liam Parker
Did we see Thor use the bifrost though? Or is this inference? im not saying youre wrong, im just asking. No what? The russos said cap went into an alt timeline, that user said u need the launchpad to come pad from alt timelines. If you need the pad to come back from alt time lines cap would have to come thru the pad. If youre saying " ignore the russos" then fine. Ill ignore em and listen to you.
Asher Wood
The Russos can suck my cock, they didn't pay attention to their own movie.
Nathan Davis
Lol awesome so theyre inept.
Blake Powell
We saw it in the first movie, there's no need for another scene of Thor showing he can teleport.
Benjamin Morales
The keyword is continuity. You can't affect anything that could change the continuity of history you've already experienced without creating a branch timeline.
By first im guessin you mean IW. I do remember them using the bifrost there.
Jayden Clark
>BRING ME THANOS!!!!
James Barnes
Okay guys, I got pretty curious when I rad your argument so I decided to search for a camrip and find out who is right. It turns out they don't actually show in the movie how the charcaters got to the various places.
When Thor and Rocket go to Asgard the first scene of them is sneaking past Loki's cell. We don't see if they arrive by bifrost or other means.
In the first scene on Morag is the team landing in a pod, which is being lowered from the GoTG-ship (the Milano?? dont remember its name.) We don't see those guys teleporting either, but it can be infered that they traveled to Motag via spaceship. They had Nebula with them, and I guess she could steer the ship.
There is a moment of teleportation tho. The New York Team appears at a random street, close to the 2012-avengers. They CLEARLY teleported.
Also, we don't see how Rogers and Stark got to New Jersey, Camp Lehigh. We see them teleporting away during 2012, then a few establishing shots later we see them wandering around the army base in disguise.
By the way, if you doubt a single word I say you can watch for your fucking selves. It's not hard to google for a camrip.
The Milano got destroyed (again), so they're using the Benatar.
Andrew Adams
The heroes always teleported where they were needed in the films. There was never a time a character had to rush somewhere cause they always instantly arrive there.
It's the same with how characters can change their clothes instantly. In Ant-Man, Scott flies out the helicopter, climbs back in, and Darren is in the Yellowjacket suit in the span of 2 minutes. Or how Shuri and Okoye were able to change not only their clothes but their hair during a heated battle.