ITT: Comics that have aged like milk

ITT: Comics that have aged like milk

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Ultimate x-men has fans?

Is there anything worse than "use a real picture of a city as the background and just whipe or distort it a bit" shit?

Spoonfeed me on Ultimate X-men
I remember that almost everything revolved around Wolverine. That he is a first mutant, his blood acts like drug and Cable is future snikt-snikt
Oh, and Colossus likes men asses

Magneto has none of his sympathetic or redeeming traits, Nightcrawler is homophobic and Colossus being gay ruined their relationship, Bush licks the boots of Magneto on the white house lawn naked, Wolverine tries to kill Cyclops and the final story arc before Ultimatum of the book is an anti-drug PSA

Didn’t colossus become a drama queen after being made gay? I remember colossus thinking everything homophobic even when people ask him to be s pitcher during a baseball game.

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Oh and in the first issue Iceman saves a group of people from being killed by a falling sentinel and then straight afterwards a old lady throw a bottle at his head and splits his skull open

>Bush licks the boots of Magneto on the white house lawn naked
That was some crazy shit

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People complain about the political stuff with Marvel recently but nothing comes close to this

I like the costumes

That first story arc was great (the first 6 issues or so), but it did go downhill after that. The cable arc was neat too. But a lot of it was not done well.

Wolverine was the worst part of Ultimate X-men. He was written like a fucking narcissistic sociopath but everyone still treated him like a hero and you were expected to as well.

Why is Bush drawn so muscular?

Shit like this was hilarious. They always had to end every storyline with some fucking bullshit at the end, usually some traumatic injury. Like the anti-drug thing ended with Northstar crippled.

because comic book artists.

>the final story arc before Ultimatum is an anti-drug PSA

This was the funniest part. Have an entire 5 or so issues dedicated to "don't do drugs kids!" and then once it's over immediately proceed to kill off 90% of the cast.

it wasn't distorted originally but it had company logos on it so they got rid of it

So modern Wolverine?

That's actually rather hilarious user

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Ironically, I believe Bush was a /fit/fag in real life and had a pretty good time for a mile run at his age.

It's one of the most addictive terrible books I've ever read.

This was the first Marvel comic I ever read.

Weren't the X-Men who died in the flood during Ultimatum the ones who could have gotten away, as well? Like Nightcrawler and Angel somehow couldn't get away from the flooding but the rest made it.

It's explained that they died helping people

>Spider-Man can dive in again and again to get more people out
>but the teleporter and the guy who can fly dies trying to save people
yeah, okay, that totally saves it.

>aged like milk
Retarded phrase. If you were too dumb and/or "caught in the hype" to see a shit book as a shit book, it's on you, not the book

Makes no sense with the case of Kurt since he was in a damn theater when it happened.

The worst part is that for some reason, for a while 616 Wolverine was given the same outfit, and hairstyle as his ultimate counterpart.

Angel got Dazzler out of the flood, at least in the main series.

I remember that and it was brand synergy. Heck, they changed his initial costume seen in OP's pic to one with more traditional Wolvie stripes, just Ultimate-colored.

Emma was one of Xavier's ex girlfriends, and was the teacher of a different school of mutants but then they suddenly pulled a 'HELLFIRE CLUB IS HERE TOO' and went nowhere with it

>brand synergy
How come Wolverine was the only character than went through that though? Nobody else was changed to look like their ultimate version.

It somehow manages to be edgelord trash that perverts a lot of characters into "darker" versions of themselves, while simultaneously tapping into the elements of the franchise that gave X-Men mass appeal in the 1980s and 1990s, as the 616 books were losing that mass appeal to double down on The Metaphor again and again.

Was it that bad?

K

It's not about getting caught in the hype, but the aesthetics of the decade fitting so perfectly with the comic that it looks silly outside of that decade. Like any movie that's too deeply rooted in the zeitgeist of a decade.

Ultimate Wolverine tried (and almost succeeded in) murdering Cyclops to get with Jean and also assassinated a child with no remorse. 616 Logan is a jerk but he's not that much of a jerk.

The entire Ultimate universe was dumb, and generally had awful cover art that turned me off even when I was in elementary school and Ultimate was just starting

>and also assassinated a child with no remorse.
Hey man, he DID give the kid some beers before doing it! It's all good!

You can't assassinate a nobody.

I liked it. Then again, I live in the middle of nowhere and the only source of comic books was the public library where they had the bound collections of Ultimate X-Men. And Hush.

The kid's powers killed like 10,000 people in the span of a day, I think he would qualify him as an important person.

I would've preferred if they went with BKV's pitch instead

I liked how assholish they were. Also having the mutations being actual mutation instead of superpowers was interesting.
>I remember that almost everything revolved around Wolverine
It was until Ultimatum then it was around Jimmy Hudson Wolverine another son, the first was Sabertooth and the surviving mutants.

What was his name?

This.
Ultimate costumes were so much better than 616, even Hulk design was better. Hell I miss horny Hulk.

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Why did 2000 comics hated Bush so much? I am not american so I am not familiar with what Bush did to be so hated besides 9/11.

Marvel has always leaned left.

Most comics writers do.

Someone storytime Ultimate X-Men please.

Kill yourself

Idk I'd certainly say many

>BKV's pitch
Which was?

What was his pitch?

>He doesn't like horny Hulk
Shit taste/10

Something gayer than Saga

Looks like you've volunteered
>I don't have a pass
Then fuck off leech.

It’s a good series until Kirkman fucked it up.

Absolutely based

Angel got killed by sabertooth

Some of designs were but the X-Men's definetly weren't. They were really bland

That scene was a carbon copy of what happened in Marvels, by the way

Imagine the butthurt here if that was Trump licking the shit off Mag's slippers

I'd rather not see Trump naked thanks

He was a bumbling idiot who somehow became president, at least Trump has confidence

You forgot a but after your comma.

You can actually watch Preacher age like milk as you read it because by the end of it the quality of the art has dropped to an insane degree. Also the entire issue that's dedicated to teenager like Bill Hicks worship.

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he was a complete idiot who got us into a complete boondoggle of a war that killed thousands of Americans just so his pals could make millions of dollars off no-bid military contracts.

I know people really like Preacher, but after reading it all in the course of like a week, I've always found it on the lower end of Ennis' work.

Hitman is Ennis' best original work.

I always liked War Stories the most, personally.

I'd say Iraq and its invisible Nukes was the last straw for a lot of us.

>Horny Hulk

What the fuck

I thought the 616 X-men's early 2000s outfits looked pretty good.

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Ultimates is a fuckin trip man

Ultimate Iron Man is really dumb looking. They even reference this by having Tony say that Stark Industries stock drops every time he's seen wearing this suit

forgot pic. Look at this bionicle looking shit

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Tell that to poor Vexen.

But Bill Hicks work has just gotten more timely so it balances out.

Accidental genocide man

melty boy

Spotted the cuck that cant handle based Antonio

As someone who voted for Trump, Bush is one of the worst presidents we've had in the last few decades, only Reagan and his war on drugs fucked the country over harder in recent history.
>Used the hysteria brought by 9/11 to rally up support for a war that daddy Bush always wanted to fight but could never justify, despite Iraq having little to do with the attack.
>Fucked the US budget up after the last President had finally fixed the deficit.
>Introduced the No Child Left Behind Act, a program that absolutely fucked over schools that actually needed funding.
>His general idiocy when interacting with foreign leaders makes Trump look like a fucking messiah in comparison.

Human Holocaust

>>His general idiocy when interacting with foreign leaders makes Trump look like a fucking messiah in comparison.


Dude, just no

Faggot. Bet you liked Millar attempting to spin the original Ultimate Iron Man comics as being a in-universe anime, too.

>because by the end of it the quality of the art has dropped to an insane degree
ha, I once saw a image on Yea Forums that charted the same character over the years from Preacher.
You could use it to pin point exactly when Dillon stopped giving a shit.
I wish I saved it

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Ultimate X-Men 41 has a special place in my heart, you can't change my feelings.
Yeah I like it, ask me anything.
Off the bat:
>inb4 SSN/cc
>yes I know I have shit taste

How do you go from this...

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it was like 400 people and it was an accident.
yeah but the kid turned it down

to this?

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FRANK

its a dumb and needlessly busy design stay mad

Good going retard, you just described every Iron Man suit from the past 20 years.

Not as bad as his stint on Thunderbolts

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...so you agree that ultimate iron man is dumb looking okay thank you

He's a Republican. Also, all the aid he gave to Africa is fucking the world up.

Ultimate Iron Man looks fucking great you chode.

Fucking hell I haven't seen anyone this wrong in a while. The fact that he needs a team to put it on just highlights how fucking dangerous this suit is as a whole. There's a reason he gets saucy before he puts on the suit, because he is fucking terrified at what he is about to do with what he is about to do it with. Tony's suit is tough, but even he knows it has its limits and starting out in the Ultimate Universe, it DEFINITELY has its limits.

Sure, but I'm posting what I want

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Oh man, I forgot about that incident. I think Millar didn't feel like Card's Iron Man matched up with what he had in mind for Iron Man so that was why he retconned his run as an in-universe anime. He also had Thor speak like he wrote him (as opposed to Loeb, who was writing Thor's speech as 616-Thor's) but I forget how he explained it.

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I can't tell if it's a good thing or bad thing people are unaware of Millar's Ultimates.

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>He also had Thor speak like he wrote him (as opposed to Loeb, who was writing Thor's speech as 616-Thor's) but I forget how he explained it.
Loeb explained it in his comics that Thor was finally able to drop his facade. I really liked the idea that Thor was pretending to be a hippie just to gather a following on Earth and was really this drunk fighter. Hickman did a great amalgam of the two after Millar had Tony pay Thor to speak normally.

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Everyone else gave you an answer but also forget the context of the scene that posted. At the time Bush was seen as incompetent and the Supreme Court decided in his favor for the election win. That naturally got some people upset.

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>original Ultimate Iron Man comics
Those were fucking terrible, and retconning them is one of the most redeeming things Millar has ever done.

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UIM1 was great, but UIM2 is absolute garbage

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>UIM1 was great,
We're talking about the same one?

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That's a cute kitty.

Where his entire body is a brain and he makes racist remarks after having his head bashed into a brick wall? Fucking love that miniseries, then the second one goes to complete shit. The third one by Ellis though, Armor Wars, might be the best Iron Man material in the UU

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People were pissed this book took so long, but it probably has the best art of any UU book. It's a good story too, I feel like Loeb could have had a great post-Ultimatum run on X-Men and Ultimates had he been given a chance. Ultimatum was such a shit show behind the scenes though

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it flipflopped between being good and awful before finally settling on being awful

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You like ultimate dogshit. That's cool.
I'll forgive your shit taste because of how cute that Kitty is.

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What the fuck is with that girl on the left?? It looks like a headless person.

I get that UIM isn't for everyone, it's pretty out there. You at least liked Armor Wars right?

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That is a little odd, yeah

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Literally everything Ultimate related - costume design aside - is fucking shit, fuck you niggers talking about?

>Inbe4 some shit taste faggot bring up Spideymate

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"people"

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Why anyone likes or listens to Alex Jones baffles me

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Ultimate Marvel in general has aged poorly.

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I could have forgiven it if they at least had Obadiah fuckstane get some comeuppance.

But no, he got away scott-free.

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iirc UIM2 is all about that, but it's so shit that I can't really remember

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Obadiah was fucking malicious in that.
>she dropped her shoe

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This comic gave me hope that the ultimate x-men were gonna have good comics again, but then after this all we got were just boring stories.

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How stupid can you be?

Wrong, Nick Spencer's was the best UXM ever got. Then Brian Wood came on

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Also Ultimate Wolverine is a 30 something adult who bangs an 18 year old Jean grey at like the very start of the run

Also Ultimate Cable was just Wolverine from the future

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must have missed it, I only read the Wood stuff

Pretty sure Jean was 16

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Missed out on 12 issues of kino. Apocalypse comes back and the four horsemen are the Xavier, Magneto, Wanda, and Cyclops from the universe Jean erased when she pheonix'd Apocalypse

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The law allows every cop to shoot on sight any mutant that doesn't surrender and this guy believe it's the best to turn his brother to SHIELD?

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quads speak truth

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Shoot that phone, show it who's boss

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One skinny faggot tries to shoot down a school but they don't freak out untill the fat guy turns up to be a mutant?

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End

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and then they have incest

the writing got shittier and the story more and more contrived. the artist only ever figured out how to draw more stuff between lines

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Actually let's do one more, after hyping it up I better post it.

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Seriously? Because that page is giving me some incest vives but i though it was just me.

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Ultimate Pietro and Wanda canonically fuck each other

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In Ultimates 3 they confirmed for fucking. And The Wasp didn't think anything about that was weird, explaining that it was " love" to a shocked Cap

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Huh. That should be fucked up but if this storytime is anything to go by it seems to fit with this universe.

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Yeah, it fits

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So this girl is daddy issues the character?

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Tony's favorite

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lol

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In addition to be just fuck ugly, the Ultimate Iron Man suit looks like it would be a pain to draw

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If there's one thing Africa doesn't need more of its more aids.

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Holy fuck American """artists""" are so lazy

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So the world economy is shit, many are dead, and this people still are bitching about green energy like if that meant something after the world became a shithole?

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I'm surprised they haven't used Trump for anything like this.

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I wonder if i should care abitu this Tony after he killed british officers. I don't really care for them but he could start and international incident.

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Thanks for the storytime! I'd only ever read the first 2 issues until now. So weird that this is by the same guy responsible for Ultimatum, but maybe the art is giving me rose-tinted goggles.

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Nah, Ultimatum was a clusterfuck behind the scenes. Loeb gets the biggest blame since his name is on the cover, but given all the shit that went on he's basically a fall guy for bigger heads

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Ultimate Hulk was...."interesting". He was a murderer, rapist, and a cannibal.

Hadn't heard that before. Do you know if Ultimates 3 had the same problem? I'm a fan of the Ultimate comics (Which I didn't realize was such a point of contention until this thread), but even I thought 3 just an awful book. Especially after Ultimates 2.

>They even reference this by having Tony say that Stark Industries stock drops every time he's seen wearing this suit
I think that's more the fact that the genius CEO is flying into a situation where he is probably going to be killed.

Did he actually rape anyone? I know he was a bona fide psychopath, but that seems dark even for Ultimates.

>Character part off secret good government project
>No payoff for why he did what he did or anything
Wtf

Also in the sex pannel I could 5 legs

I think the rapist bit comes from the fact that he was planning to rape Betty until the Ultimates stopped him. He's definitely eaten people, though.

>he mentioned Yea Forums
I remember when this was a big deal.

So Iron Man just murders a bunch of British cops.

Does Loeb know mutant offspring don't get the same powers as their parents?

Where is that stated in the Ultimate Universe?

At least they werent alive long enough to become junkies

Where was that stated in the main universe. I can think of 5 would be who got the same powers as their parents

It is okay, he hit them with the back of his blade

>food stuffs

>No payoff
This is like a theme of Ultimate, Bendis was frequently teasing stuff and forgetting about it next arc, Ultimatum teased new sorcerer supreme and other stuff that was never mentioned again.

Wasnt Liz's mom fat in USM?

Being President while Republican. Marvel have been doing things like this whenever there's a Republican President all the way back to Nixon. For all the many legitimate reasons to attack him, they seemed to start before he'd even done anything, because they were so angry about the Florida vote and the Supreme Court decision robbing them of four years of Al Gore.

A lot of writers had villains quoting him in the run up to the election, Spider-Gwen's reality had a Trump MODOK, but this was when they though there was no chance of him winning. It seems like there's a Marvel-wide policy to not even acknowledge him as the President.

>of four years of Al Gore.
I wonder how that would have been, Bush was no good but Al Gore has shown to be a clown too.

In what comparison?

Thanks for the story time, i actually liked it a lot, almost makes me want more ultimate comics

If you genuinely believe Dubya was better, you weren't alive and in possession of an adult intellect during his presidency. Besides which, with the help of Tony Blair, he quite literally killed millions.

Bush may have been more a war criminal but he was much more respected internationally. No one respects Trump. Our enemies find him a useful idiot at best

Bet she uses her powers to keep them tittays pointing up.

Ellis wrote this, doubt he even considers this to be murder.

Yes, Greg Land

The hell, is that Bulk and Skull?

Trump is burning all our bridges. Bush was a fucking idiot but at least he didn't think Trade Wars were the answer to foreign policy.

What I find hilarious is that it's like the universe itself wants it to be acknowledged. Wanda and Pietro in the MCU for example, their exact same actors play a married couple in the 2014 Godzilla film. What are the fucking odds?

>A lot of writers had villains quoting him in the run up to the election, Spider-Gwen's reality had a Trump MODOK, but this was when they though there was no chance of him winning. It seems like there's a Marvel-wide policy to not even acknowledge him as the President.

It usually takes until most of the way through a term before they'll actually show the President as the person he is in reality.

I don't think they showed Obama until 2011, for example. (And that was in an issue criticizing him.)

Africa might have been the only good thing did foreign policy-wise. He quietly strengthened our ties to English-speaking African democracies, and dramatically increased disease and AIDS prevention. Obama quietly doubled down on that.

Now with China's belt and road policy slowly turning many parts of Africa into modern slave states, the US' (and France's) ties to many countries there is about the only thing standing in their way.

Endless free food to Africa, tho, that's been real bad, causing unsustainable population booms without any commiserate growth in domestic food production.

I still mantain that Ultimates 2 is awesome and is a better blockbuster movie than any of the other Avengers films.

Ultimates 2 is the best thing Millar wrote honestly

>I don't think they showed Obama until 2011, for example. (And that was in an issue criticizing him.)
Pretty sure Obama was featured almost immediately after his election. I remember he was briefed by Doc Sampson on Osborn's history just before Dark Reign and almost killed by a goblin impersonator

Wolverine was so many books at the time he always changed between his New X-Men jacket (BASED) and the second Ultimate outfit (CRINGE).

Yes. There is.

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>assassinated a child with no remorse.
Ok removing that from context is a low fucking blow, the kid had a mutant power that basically melted anyone around him, what was the other option exactly?

Didn't Mary Jane get Goblin powers after being mutated into the Demogoblin? That kinda stuff. Would have been cool.

This stupid shit right here is why I stopped reading anything mutant related in marvel comics.

Such shit writing.

Don't forget when he switched minds with Spider-Man and tried to fuck MJ, a high-schooler.

>elektra
Keking hell...

>tiny man-sized suit that's just barely bulkier than his 616 suit
That ruined what little reason I had for reading Ultimate Iron Man. The hulking jet-suit that needed a team of people to strap him in was the only good change.

what? they literally had comics where he teamed up with spider-man and corny stuff like that

>I don't think they showed Obama until 2011, for example. (And that was in an issue criticizing him.)

You fucking dumbass.

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The Ultimate Universe used Bush to make things more realistic. Trump is too cartoonish a figure for it to work like that.

War Stories is his objective best work.

Didn't Reed start off in some Project of Tomorrow group filled with whizzkids? Or was it the original Ultimate teenage Tony Stark story that had him be in a bunker filled with smart people? My memory's pretty bad.

He was extremely cold about it, though.

I think that's more of a Bendis Problem than Ultimate. Im mean in his New Avengers he teased stuff forever without payoff. "Something rotten in Shield" was teased for 2-3 years, then completely forgotten over Secret Invasion and lost in limbo for quite some time until another writer took over and did Secret Warrios.

>Franks Franking Franks.jpg

Honestly, Raimi was half of the reason Ultimates was the way it was.

>no one respects trump
You're living in a dream world if you believe the American liberals represent much of the world. Most of the works isn't Canada Britain and France.

*world

Even more because Magneto is jewish. You know how trumpfags get about that.

This series was really really good but Adamns killed momentum with the delay between fourth and fifth issue.

Ultimate Hulk was a really horny Hulk so its plausible. In Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk he had his own harem of girls in the Himalayas.

Benids fucking teased the return of the Ultimate universe in Spider-Men 2 but I am sure that was just Bendis being a retard and doing things without consulting people.

>Besides which, with the help of Tony Blair, he quite literally killed millions
To save billions?

Where would you even find attractive girls in the himalayas? Or did he go a kidnap them from around the world, safe in the knowledge that they wouldn't survive the trek out of the himalayas?

No, to spend trillions of dollars that the military-industrial complex pocketed.

If I recall correctly, the Hammer Invasion of Asgard was retconned to be a last minute Bush act before Obama took over

>If I recall correctly, the Hammer Invasion of Asgard was retconned to be a last minute Bush act before Obama took over
Now that's just petty, though both were warmongers.

This, just look at how much Israel loves him.
What an outstanding President.

>Punished trumpster, robbed of his MAGA
Absolutely nuclear

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He gathered up all the women in the surrounding villages and holed up in a monastery. However, by this point Hulk had become mostly rational, and it seemed like the women weren't held against their will.

Why all the women in villages near a Himalayan monastery were so hot is a different question, but can probably be answered with "don't think about it too hard". Ultimate Hulk vs Wolverine was entertaining, but not exactly thought provoking.

HEY HOLD ON is that the real artwork??????? i remember seeing that art in middle school and being really sad because i thought I'd never be able to draw like that. I remember it being so much better...