How would he fare in the DCU?

How would he fare in the DCU?

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Badly. People wouldn't read his comics.

Oi Kotomine, I'm going to abort some babies, what are you going to do about it?

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Kotomine wouldn't have his own solo series he'd a villain for Constantine

He would make an excellent Batman villain.

Kotomine's whole deal is that he spent most of his life deeply in denial about the fact that he enjoys the suffering of others. Its the one thing that really makes him happy.

So he spent his younger years trying to find fulfillment in other ways. Throwing himself into profession after profession, convincing himself that if he was the best at THIS, he would finally have the sense of satisfaction he has been lacking. But he became an incredible surgeon, and saving lives didn't make him happy. He learned magic, and that didn't make him happy. He joined the churches mage hunters, killing dangerous wizards, and saving the world didn't make him happy. He became a missionary, spreading the word of god, and that didn't make him happy either.

Until, eventually, he is forced to admit to himself that what makes him happy is the suffering of other people. He's just a sick, twisted bastard at his core. He didn't want to admit it, but that's who he is and pretending otherwise has just made him miserable.

What makes him a good Batman villain in specific is that he has the same shtick as Batman where he is just absurdly well trained in a wide variety of fields. He is Batman's drive for perfection, but built on a weak moral core. He would likely see Batman as someone very much like himself: someone in denial about what he REALLY wants.

Most DC characters don't fall into Heroic Spirit classes because they don't use weapons and most of them are alive

I guess Zatanna can summon her dad as a Caster

He jobbed to a fucking teen.

He'd be a low point in the history of Constantine's comics.

Actually, that's a genuinely good point to bring up. We've seen that Kotomine is an incredible martial artist, and he can fight more-or-less evenly with a Heroic Spirit for a few minutes.

And yet, in Fate, he dies when Shirou breaks free from mud and stabs him in the heart. In UBW, it's more justifiable, because he's fighting fucking Lancer: But how did he NOT manage to dodge a teenager trying to shank him?

so has everybody ever thwarted by the teen titans, any superboy, young justice, or billy marvel

Most of these have super powers. He jobbed to a (mostly) normal teen.

shirou is a zombie made of swords, and his default state is a zen trance since he has no proper ego as demonstrated in the bit where Rin is talking about how unnaturally good at archery he is

Are theese retcons? I don't remember any of it in the original

YOROKOBE

Reread it maybe.

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Kotomine should be a Green Arrow villain.
>Ollie is liberal, Kirei is conservative
>Ollie likes spicy chili, Kirei likes spicy mapo tofu
>Ollie is a westerner who likes eastern philosophy, Kirei is an easterner who likes western religion

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By the late stage of any Fate route, Shirou is effectively superhuman. He has like three different plot devices powering him, and has a magical combat style that is weird as hell and doesn't play by any of the normal rules of magecraft AND he has effectively decades more experience in using it than he physically can have because he is leeching from Archer.

Shirou fights servants and doesn't IMMEDIATELY die. That alone is a showcase of how impressive he can be, ignoring the couple of times that he fights a servant and actually wins.

in the last battle in HF, they are both described as being "dead men". emiya wins because at that point he's literally a corpse sword with a servant arm while kotmine is just fucked

He could even use the Lazarus Pits to resurrect himself as an analog for Angra Mainyu cursing him to live for an extra ten years. I mean you could also just bring in AM as part of his plotline, but Batman really should not be facing down the apocalypse and not mentioning it to somebody better equipped to try and address the endless mass of evil.

nope. all in the original VN.
the only reason Shirou isn't the biggest threat off the bat in the grail war is A) he completely misunderstood how his tracing worked B)was caught up in the idea of surviving the war without killing anybody and C) compulsively uses himself as a human shield for other people even when they are would be hurt by it less than he would be.

apart from explaining it several times, they hammer it in pretty heavily with his reality marble, which is literally taking the symbols that comprise his conceptual existence and making them real. its just swords in a lifeless, scorched field

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Leave Kotomine to me.

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lmao he can't even beat a grand servant

The number of things that can truly beat one of those can be counted on one hand.

lol, the literal will of god is in a different ballgame than skull knight or shitty solomon

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God literally endorses Solomon and he's always in direct contact with it. King Hassan can make anything die, no matter what it is. Try again.