How would Kiara fare in the DCU?

are you trying to say nasu holds a candle to DC wank?

Mages in the modern ages aren't that impressive so that's not a major feat really. I really don't see how much in Nasu holds is up to par with DC powerverse shit.

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Doom Patrol have defeated beings like her.

you know how this thead is gonna go, its gonna become a 'no my concept or power is better than yours'

The real question is Kiara versus Bueno.

Beasts and Types are the strongest beings in the Nasuverse and the best they can do in the DCU is probably fighting Aquaman or weak metahumans.
The only advantage Nasuverse has is conceptual shit that can be a pain in the ass for many heroes, but it all depends in how you interpret it

At its highest tiers? Yes, because it certainly doesn't get shitstomped. Nasu isn't about physical powerlevels or how many universe you can explode. It's about inviolable magic hax.

>Mages in the modern ages aren't that impressive so that's not a major feat really.
It's Merlin. The most powerful magic user in the entire setting, whose rings literally give him all magecraft. And it's not like Chaldea wasn't packing heat itself.

are you mixing up merlin and solomon and goetia was a fucking beast

and DC has plenty of conceptual shit, just read lucifer or sandman, your clearly ignorant

>its gonna become a 'no my concept or power is better than yours'
That's literally how everything in the Nasuverse works.

>and DC has plenty of conceptual shit, just read lucifer or sandman, your clearly ignorant
Lucifer would give no shits, and God only knows what's going on with the Endless.

Yeah but the argument was that 'they wouldnt get shitstomped'

Desire is just a 'kiara but better and more a spiteful bitch'

>Desire is just a 'kiara but better and more a spiteful bitch'
Desire is spiteful, but more spiteful than Kiara? That's a bit much.

Well, Promethea is currently canon which implies the Whore of Babylon/Madonna is canon so...

Shit. There’s a non zero chance she could grow to basically be one step below the Presence. And uh, ruin Promethea’s reputation to the readers forever. Which I’m told is an actual thing DC heroes have to worry about

Given how Kiara's powers work, you'd essentially need to send an utterly unthinking, completely mindless, and absolutely soulless machine to go and fight her. And unless it has massive reality-has on its side, it probably still gets stomped. Being cold and utterly mindless just keeps it from getting shoved up her vagina.

Easy, remember wha happened when a pillar demon tried to get fresh with an innocent Kiara? Kiara and Bruno fuse into one entity, existing in perfect symbiosis where her cosmic womb endlessly breeds Buenos to augment her rape powers.

The Overgordon is actually one of those Buenos that fell off and started to mutate

Nope, according to SERAPHIX and later Ooku you need a cosmic megathot or 3 to beat a cosmic megathot.

10/10 answer.

Kiara didnt really show much spite just 'fuck me and let me vore you'

or yanno, a spectre

Well Kiara isn’t THAT spiteful even at her most sociopathic while Desire regularly kicks her own underlings for failing her (see: the Emperor Norton affair) and betrayed Dream’s friendship for no good reason and actually got Death pissed. Meanwhile Kiara was happy to work with Chaldea after losing

At best, that's a stalemate. The real way to beat Kiara's thottery is to be so enlightened that you have escaped the circle of suffering and become a Buddha. And even that probably wouldnt be enough, as she has Skills that disable all of a Buddha's Skills.

Does the Spectre have intelligence? Does he have any of the five senses? Can he feel pain? Can he feel pleasure?

If the answer to any of the above is "Yes", then he loses against Kiara.

>Meanwhile Kiara was happy to work with Chaldea after losing
Only because she wants to corrupt them from within, and get them to enter the vorehole willingly.

Yeah and both tamamo, nero and the buddha have intelligence.

I've read her profile, her damage boosts if your smarter, her instalose only works if you find her attractive, the spectre could just yeet her out of existence

Nasuverse wank is the worst.
No. No character in this universe has shown ANY feats above town level.
Vague statements =/= feats.

Spectres job real easy. Remember that time Vandal Savage turned out to be Cain and bitched him by poking him with the Spear of Destiny? I’d sooner get Dr. Fate on the case

Okay but that’s LITERALLY how they beat her in SERAPHIX. BB collected thot points representing her own fuck energy behind her back (while being summoned BY her coincidentally as an admin), the other two frankengoddess Sakuras did the actual fighting and sent you back in time when it wasn’t enough, you all tried AGAIN and did much better so the frankengoddess Sakuras sacrificed themselves to poison her with their own divine lust acid and finally Detroit Emiya showed up to put a bullet in her.

I want to believe you. But Ooku had her sacrifice herself to save y’all from Kama by hurling you back in time. Yanno, kind of like how Melt saved you from Kiara.

They done my girl dirty when it shouldn’t have been possible

Acktually Sefar wasted 90% of all life on the planet in prehistory and still can’t do shit about quantum timelocks like Beasts

>Yeah and both tamamo, nero and the buddha have intelligence.
Tamamo and Nero could hardly change anything during the fight, and the Buddha may as well have been powerless. Not to mention Kiara was half-assing things.

>If the answer to any of the above is "Yes", then he loses against Kiara.
The thought robot beats her easily.

And it was beat back by Excalibur, which does not have a single feat above town level.

>what is Void Shiki/Akasha
>what are the Outer Gods
>what is the Alien God
>what is Velber
>what is Goetia
Retard

Nasu said Void Shiki isn’t even servant level.

Excalibur fucking nuked the damn thing and tore a beam through it that went on for miles. Not to mention that Excalibur is MADE for shit like Velber to begin with. It BTFO'd everyone and everything else.

Even back in FSN days when you were right Excalibur explicitly had a Super mode for defending against alien invaders. Look, NONE of us like how fucking inconsistent Nasu is about powerlevels but that still means it’s canon this giant that can absorb incoming concepts got her ass beat by Excalibur

"Q: In the other Type-Moon works, who else besides Arc can fight against Servants?

A: If we're working on the condition of one on one, with an extremely average Noble Phantasm. Generally most of the 27 Ancestors, Kishima Kouma, Aozaki Aoko.

If it's just a defensive fight, but would still be a fight, then Ciel. Shiki (Rakkyo), Shiki (Tsukihime) are no match for Servants....but Ryougi Shiki (3rd personality) might be able to go as far as the Ciel class."
The wank for these characters is pretty hilarious given the creator doesn’t think any of them are above town level or all that strong, all things considered.
Dumbasses taking the words literally when Nasu uses a lot of figurative speech will do that though.

Which is funny since he then made her a Servant to get around his own ruling. Mind you, by gameplay or plot she isn’t even a particularly powerful one compared to, say, even Gawain

FGO and Extella even mention that Excalibur has seals placed on it to restrict its total might, and these are only barely loosened when alien invaders show up.

The franchise moved on, old man. It isn’t as if, say, the DCAU is held as an absolute standard for DC as a whole.

See and fuck off.

So just slaanesh then

>jobbed to 4 elves
>still can’t breach the Materium at will
Kiara is Slaanesh but better

Pretty much, but as a Bodhisattva, she's basically Slaanesh but even more ungodly powerful.

are you comparing actual buddhism to fate which nerfs most of its myths?

Moved on and yet still has no feats to back up fighting anyone above town level.

No. Kiara is classified as a Bodhisattva in Nasu lore, beyond being a Beast. It's why Buddha's would be naturally effective against her, if it weren't for her bullshit Skills.

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No he beats her cause he's her polar opposite in terms of counters, you literally said she's stronger than slaanesh who's 'lol you lose' is backed up on a much high scale, nasu isnt that big in scale compared to other settings like DC or even 40k

>Let me spam the same comment over and over, surely this will make up for the lack of feats

Kiara (and Kama as well) literally has an entire universe for a body. The Alien God uses galaxies as fucking fertilizer for its trees, Goetia attempted to blue screen the timeline, Tiamat is Tiamat, etc.

40k would get absolutely annihilated by any Nasu high-tier.

Lmao Fate shit is weaker than Fairy tale

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It's because of lack of actual feats.
DC is one of the strongest verses.
It's not even a fair comparison when the nasuverse is weaker than even other anime shit.

>literally has an entire universe for a body
Fun fact though, not all universes are the same size in scale.
You can say that one entity is as big and an entire universe, but that's in it's own universe.
Biggest fish in the pond, so to speak.

>It's because of lack of actual feats.
See . Stop being purposefully retarded.

>It's not even a fair comparison when the nasuverse is weaker than even other anime shit.
"Other anime shit" includes shit like Tenchi Muyo, Shinza Bansho, Digimon, SMT, and other assorted cosmic fuckery that would require DC's cosmics to break even with just their fucking mid-tiers alone. It's not a fair comparison.

With Kiara and Kama/Mara (especially with the latter), they're basically the same size as our own. Kama was even explicitly going subsume the known universe with her/himself upon being fully 'born'.

Except in nasu the 'universe' is the size of hte fucking solar system at best, nasu is a retard that uses the word universe in a entirely different way.

its like how iskander reality marble is infinite yet still did jack shit, they cant shunt a bit of hte infinite into someones face,

>Except in nasu the 'universe' is the size of hte fucking solar system at best
It really isn't, given that the Alien God literally uses galaxies to fertilize its plants. Not like the 'solar system' matters, as Nash pointedly uses a different definition of even *that* in his work.

Strictly speaking, our perception of reality, the for system, and beyond, stems solely from how Gaia enforces its will on everything. Reality is absolute nonsense in Nasu when you divorce Gaia from the equation. She pointedly smacks down any reality marbles that aren't her own presence, because them expanding means that someone is imposing their own reality onto everything else and that's a big no-no for a number of reasons.

Dr Manhattan solos Fate

>Dr. Sivana solos Fate
FTFY