ITT: Unpopular Yea Forumspinions:

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Pearls before swine.

Reminds me of Hush Returns, where DC actually tried to make TKJ origin canon. It also treated us to the Joker running buckass naked in a field, crying like a baby.

In retrospect, it offers some clarity to a lot of DC's recent decisions.

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why was he nude?

Kingdom Come fucking sucks.

That movie is amazing

Pic Related is one of the greatest comics ever. I fucking love it. I dont give a shit if it involves rape and I think the Death Stroke stuff is ok when self contained to the story (him being a super assassin being able to handle super heroes).

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Batman having a good relationship with the GCPD beyond Gordon is crap.
HarleyxIvy is an actual cancer whose supporters should be punished.
Arkham Origins was the best one.
Christian Bale is overrated. Fine, but overrated.
Pure white eyes can work in live action.
The Riddler is the best part of all of the Arkham games.
Batman and Catwoman going further than one-sided flirting and the extremely occasional anger bang ruins both characters.

Because Villain Sue Hush beat him up.

A.J. Lieberman's run on Gotham Knights was fucking horrible.

Not liking The Killing Joke stopped being an unpopular opinion when Moore dismissed it and his sycophants parroted him.

>Pic Related is one of the greatest comics ever.

Underage ban.

Batman was only good when Bill Finger was writing him.

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This is a great movie.

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Hah, I was college when it came out. Its what got me into DC. Re-read it from time to time. Still great. I'd love to hear why you think its not.

Why didn't you just say Rock of Ages as a whole, although that specific issue is the most one of the story

I refuse to watch the casagrandes because it has a retard in it

Jerry Siegel's "Supermans return to krypton" is better than Alan Moore's "For the Man who has everything"

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Getting rid of captions and thought balloons ruined the medium

Alan Moore's Swamp Thing retcon turned a tragic and humanistic story of a man trying to regain his humanity into an ecoterrorist wet dream

Wizard did a better job promoting Indie than any of the Comics Journal/Fantagraphics hipsters

50's anti-Communist Captain America should be the real Captain America.

It wasn't good, but Daredevil (2003) was the only cape movie that to this day has successfully replicated the feel and tone of a comic book, the others are just Matrix/Heat wannabes or spoofs.

Barks Duckfags are the worst fandom of all. Sonic, SU, MLP, creepypasta, FNAF, anime, none compare.

Spider-Man: Reign is fucking trash

What Comics, Movies, Series, Cartoons, Games ETC recommend for someone who hates disney, hates marvel, hates star wars, hates lucasfilm, hates Fox, hates pixar, and hates the MCU?

Immortal Hulk is pretentious edgelord trash.

>It wasn't good

This is an extreme understatement.

Venture Bros makes fun of several things about Marvel, it also mock DC sometimes but Marvel most of the time.

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"Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow" is pretty weak compared to the Imaginary Stories it's paying tribute to.

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Morrison would've been better off with Marvel.

Sometimes I wonder what comics would've become if the economy didn't crash in '07.

It really seemed like things were changing for the better until that shit happened.

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How the fuck is that an unpopular opinion? It's the best cape movie of all time.

Duckfags are cancer: "Hurr men in tights punching each other thinks it's serious because it's violent HAHA, now let me go read my adult, enlightened, sophisticated Donald Duck comics; this one references the Gold Rush, so you know it's smart and therefore I am too"

only on fantastic four though

>unpopular opinion

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I wouldn't mind him on Spider-man, GOTG, Thor, or an Event.

The backlash against the movie on here has been pretty vocal though, just look at all the Society memes.

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Still waiting...

society meme is not about TDK

Not the guy you're waiting for, but I've come to appreciate it somewhat. I found it a bit excessively dark at the time, but honestly in retrospect, it was no different from 99% of every other edgy event DC was coming out with (it just had more publicity), and had some actual Feels moments and times when I couldn't wait for the next issue.

If it came out today, it would probably be deemed a feminist masterpiece or something.

i think the Alan Moore story had a better ending (with superman having to will himself to escape the trap despite it being everything he wanted)

Unpopular Yea Forums opinion. Yea Forums has a tendency to hate popular things, & I've seen a bunch of people here try hard to find reasons to hate it.

Batman v Superman

I think the first Injustice series (Gods Among Us) makes the best case for the "Thou Shalt Not Kill" rule/trope in many superhero comics and thus convinced me it can be a great rule. Usually one of the main arguments to justify this rule is a slippery slope fallacy ("If you kill once, then you'll never stop!") where starting the act of killing will lead into someone becoming a supervillain. Injustice actually did a great job in turning this from a fallacy into an argument. It showed how, step-by-step, Superman's good intentions and a human(oid)'s natural tendency to prefer the easy routes in life can create something ultimately horrendous and unintentionally immoral.

First it was just killing the Joker, then it slowly-but-surely eventually became him killing anyone who opposed his decisions even it was a kid (Billy Batson).

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I feel like mainstream books are another genre. They just have this completely different design and storytelling because of the connections that have to remain open. People that want traditional literature are definitely only going to find it in the "casual bait" stuff.

I like Bone but it fell apart at the end. All that buildup with Kingdok led to nothing.

Society isn't about making fun of the Nolan movies though.

i agree with most of this

>Spider-Man: Reign is fucking trash

is that actually unpopular?

I like the JMS Spider Totem stuff.

And what was the criticism?

It's mostly hated by Moore haters. Moore fans actually like it. Moore just said it was too dark for a children's comic, which is used by Moore haters to criticise it for being "bad".

TKJ is pleb filter. I've never heard any form of legit criticism about it.

Try anime, faggot.

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It's not even the best single issue in its own run. The best issue was when starro attacked and Daniel had to meet up with the league.

You're thinking of For the Man Who Has Everything

Duck comics are reprinted by Fantagraphics, so you know they're for sophisticated readers with very high IQs.

yeah that was top tier, i have those 2(?) issues, and the trade paperbacks of morrisons run on jla.

8man becomes a riajuu with a harem though, so fuck him.

Thanks, Obama.

Still waiting, but glad you agree that its good stuff. People used to cry about the fact that it had rape made it a bad story. However, Game of Thrones came around and made people silence about that (not pro-rape or anything, but saying that a story which involves it makes said story bad is not correct IMHO). Other than that, I've never seen an argument against the comic other than the Deathstroke fight scene (addressed in my first post).

Identity Crisis is a fantastic comic!!

Miles Morales is a good character

Perhaps in his own right he's fine. The problem is that the character was made to MURDER Character A (Peter) and replace him with Character B (Miles). The only real difference being that A is white and B is Black/Hispanic.

I will forever hate Bendis for creating such a fantastic Ultimate world with Peter, just to kill him for the sole purpose of replacing him with a black Peter (Miles), because he started adopting children.

Y'know, I agree that the point of Miles is to replace Peter, but I think that the black/Hispanic thing is a bit of a sidenote. For me it's about the age, not the race. I was going into high school when Miles became Spider-Man. He was the more relatable character for me as a comic book reader, and I appreciated that a lot.
Peter Parker hasn't been the relatable to the youth character for several decades, but that is where he started out. I like having a new Spider-Man that fits that for my age group.

>For me it's about the age, not the race. I was going into high school when Miles became Spider-Man. He was the more relatable character for me as a comic book reader, and I appreciated that a lot.

I dont think you're trolling, but damn, does it feel like you are...so let me educate you. Ultimate Spider Man (PETER PARKER) was made specifically to relate to younger people, in particular people in high school. Bendis then murdered him (yes, only 10 years later, but in comic book years that is nothing), to bring in Miles. I think Peter may have still been in high school himself. It was really only done for his black adopted daughter.

The TKJ book is alright
The TKJ animated movie was very eh

Ha no I'm not that old. I was referring to when he joined the main universe. I never read ultimate universe, because I read the comics my dad bought

Ok, well, just fyi... Miles exists simply to supplant Peter. There is no other reason for him to exist other than "here is black Peter", just for Bendis's daughter's sake.

Somewhat agree. Killing Joke is outmoded compared to more recent Batman books, but Whatever Happened is still a good send off for Silver Age Superman.

>I like BabsXBruce
>Born Again is Miller's best work
>Lee is a better artist than Ross
>The Punisher (2004) is one of the greatest comic book based movies of all time

I don't like the idea of Bruce ever having any children or being in any committed relationships. It always made sense to me that he'd grow to become some lonely, recluse asshole as a result of constantly pushing people away.
Yes, I'm still pissed off at the epilogue of Unlimited.

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Still waiting....

I think Roger Stern's Avengers did what JLI did but better.

>Born Again is Miller's best work
How is this unpopular? Surely everyone sees the truth of it.

>spoiler
You are a wise man with a good opinion.
I will never forgive that.

The vast majority of fans think TDKR is his best work.

Do you mean actual fans or people who read about comics instead of reading comics?

>adoptions in 2011
>Ultimatum is 2009

Uh huh

Both kek

Er, my bad. Death of Spiderman was actually 2011, but I refuse to believe that they'd greenlit and envisioned an entire character death and creation the same year Bendis had his adoption.

Medusa's powers could be really good with some imagination. Especially since she can weave it all sorts of shapes, armor, and control it even after it's off her head.

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Medusa wearing her hair as clothing like Bayonetta when?

love comics
love cartoons
love games

'ate disney
'ate mcu
'ate star wars

Simple as

Mort Cinder.

Let it go, Autist.

>Scousers are champions
Wtf, Bros!! I thought it was impossible.

That's not why Moore hated it. He said he didn't like writing about Batman and Joker because they are two incredibly surreal individuals, who could not exist in real life, thus the story has no point outside of its pure capeshit bubble.

The only thing I like about this book is the joke

I have no idea why anyone would feel like this. Should people just write diaries and nothing else?

DCAU Batman, maybe.

So you liked the...killing joke?

Millar, Morrison and Ennis' tenure at 2000ad wasn't that bad.

Inferno while not great isn't as bad as some of the 'epics" before and after.

And Ennis' Judgement Day was a good crossover between Strontium Dog and Dredd.

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Born Again isn't just a good comic.
It's the greatest of them all.

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KAREN HAS AIDS

It happened

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No it was dull I just liked the ending joke.

Thank you, Wesley.

>I enjoy Rick and Morty. I actually find it really funny. However. I concede that I was very annoyed at how much attention they try to force onto the divorce/family drama by the time season 3 ended

>Tomasi Superman is the best character progression Clark has had in a long time.

>I'm fine with the Parallax retcon. Hal still has to bear the weight of the actions he did even if he was influenced. It just makes it easier to accept him being a hero again without everyone questioning Hal's sanity regularly I'm

>Before Watchmen was okay, if only because Minutemen was great, Dollar Bill was great, and Silk Spectre was good. Miss ya Cooke.

>I think TNBA looks better than BTAS. Mask of the Phantasm and Subzero are still toptier tho.

>Ben Affleck is best movie Batman and was only fucked over by bad writing

>The Watchmen movie (especially the 3+ hour Ultimate edition) is good

> Morrison > Moore

>Geoff Johns is a pretty good writer

>Death of Spiderman was actually 2011

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Source? He said that a character like Batman shouldn't be so dark. If he were to write it today, he would write a Batman story with Bathound and shit.

>In a 2000 interview, Moore said: "I don't think it's a very good book. It's not saying anything very interesting".[28] In 2003, he elaborated:
>The Killing Joke is a story about Batman and the Joker; it isn't about anything that you're ever going to encounter in real life, because Batman and the Joker are not like any human beings that have ever lived. So there's no important human information being imparted ... Yeah, it was something that I thought was clumsy, misjudged and had no real human importance. It was just about a couple of licensed DC characters that didn't really relate to the real world in any way.[29]

Moore sounds like a cool creator but a fag in person

Moore is a grumpy old fool. Someone should yank his beard.

Top pleb

Except all of it is still contrived bullshit because the only actual purpose of the plot is to make random characters fight each other in a game

people who read comics from the big two are mentally ill. All that shit is fanfiction. Creator owned works are the only stuff worth reading.

the fuc are you? the bootyslave of a copyright lawyer? who owns shit has no bearing on quality. big 2 comics are crap because the writers are crap.

Most comics are trash. Classics of comics wouldn't fly in other mediums. Hellboy, Tintin, duck comics and most of capeshit and fantasy comics wouldn't be held as serious work in other mediums.

Apple and Onion is a cute, comfy show if you bother to sit through it.

It's the origin point of the radioactive spider semen joke

I hate what they did to Extrano. You can fucking see the corporate gears turning in that redesign.

There needs to be a new "The Losers" comic featuring a bunch of DC's "failed" superheroes. It's way past time they get the limelight.

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I think that's also why the comics don't get a boost from the movies. People want to read a book, not get invested in a near century long universe that's confusing as fuck.

Compounding the problem is the fact cape comics are also the least new reader friendly genre in the entire medium. Capes should be the LAST thing you get into when you're just starting comics.

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Death of Superman was a legitmate criticism of the industry at the time too.

i like the second half of Cerebus and think the entire series is great.

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I also think the later parts are better than the universally acceptable parts.

Thissss

Why are there so many "unpopular opinions" against Moore?

I want capeshit to be considered for losers again. I'm tired of hour long ''analysis'' videos about how revolutionizing it is to have cgi men in tights punch cgi grimace.

I don’t consider any work on Kirby character cannon unless it’s something Kirby did himself.
I just humor people when they go on and on about their fan fictions.

Legacy characters are trash.

Extrano, maybe throw in The Outsiders (Doc Scary's team from First Issue Special), Ultra the Multi-Alien, Yankee Doodle, Scarlett, Atlas (the Jack Kirby one)...

It could work.

Who cares?

>BatsxDiana made the most sense for a while
>JMS' run on Spider-Man was perfect up until Sins Past and OMD
>Year One/Zero/whatever the fuck books are all trash, except Batman Year One and that's only because half the book was about Gordon and it wasn't that long
>Brian Azzarello's Luthor mini is his best comic
>Lemire's only good work was his run on Green Arrow, and that was mostly because of Sorrentino's art

All of the Nu52 DC animated films are completely fucking awful and the character designs are ugly as sin.

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I prefer DC but most characters are still way too over powered to be interesting. Especially Batman who should be a loser compared to Superman and such.

There is no tension at all in most action scenes because everyone is super ninja.

>Lemire's only good work
That's objectively wrong, unless you're talking about only his big two work.

The last jedi.

>Batman having a good relationship with the GCPD beyond Gordon is crap.
A good relationship is a stretch, but why wouldn't most cops respect or look up to Batman?
>HarleyxIvy is an actual cancer whose supporters should be punished.
I like it because it gives both characters more depth the le wacky joker girl and fuck humanity dood
>Arkham Origins was the best one.
b8. This whole post was b8, but this is the most obvious of it
>Christian Bale is overrated. Fine, but overrated.
Disagree, Bale was shit. His batman voice was laughable, like the kinda shit Garth Ennis would give Batman
>Pure white eyes can work in live action.
Depends on why the white eyes are there
>The Riddler is the best part of all of the Arkham games.
I prefer the Joker, but I understand why you could disagree.
>Batman and Catwoman going further than one-sided flirting and the extremely occasional anger bang ruins both characters
Does it? Batman is almost always attracted to bad girls, and Catwoman hasn't shown genuine interest in anyone else. DESU I hate the idea that Batman would ever even flirt with an unrepentant criminal but it's part of canon now.

Batman was only good on one-offs (TKJ, WHTTCC etc) or when Morrison wrote him.

Because he's possibly the most popular comics writer of all time and rightly so

I legitimately liked Wreck It Ralph 2, I thought the first was far superior, but still enjoyed the sequel a lot.