Man of Steel 2 officially no longer in the works

Snyder didn't kill shit, WB did.

Many movies did this, most of them were shitty in the first place

>Time to start fresh
Aww man, another movie about killing a guy so he can learn that he doesn't like killing guys? What a bummer. But I guess it's a strictly necessary thing for Superman, can't go making movies without that crucial backstory.

*Matthew Vaughn Says

WB handed Snyder the wheel of the DCEU, and let him drive it over too many cliffs before intervening.

Is it really so much to ask for a normal ass Superman movie? Enough with the Krypton shit, nobody fucking cares about the Krypton shit. Why can't you just tell a story about some regular guy who happens to have superpowers and chooses to use them to help people?

Did the entertainment industry finally get over its obsessive NEED for an everyman archetype that they use to saturate the market with generic white bread male protagonists? Because they picked the wrong character to try and be subversive with.

Clark Kent is just a guy from Smallville, Kansas. He's a dorky farmboy reporter who uses his powers to save the day because that's how his momma raised him. That's it. You don't really need anything more than that because it basically writes itself. Only the hackiest of hacks could possibly fuck up Superman. Enough.

Don't get me wrong, Snyder is a hack fraud, but 90% of the blame falls on Goyer's script and I don't think this is acknowledged nearly enough.

I would've preferred if MOS2 had Parasite or Brainiac as the main villain with Lex in it but not the villain yet then the 3rd movie has Lex as the villain

>Many movies did this
Name 3.

Nah. MoS and BvS were great movies, despite WB trying to fuck everything up by rushing JL. It was WB that ruined things.

This
Easily top tier capeshit

>MoS and BvS were great movies
I can't relate to your subjective reality, making further conversation with you pointless.

MoS was great but BvS was trash.

No matter how much you say this, Superman isn't just a normal guy with powers. That's Spider-Man, not Superman. Lots of DC editors and writers hate that John Byrne trying to "normalize" Superman, or try to make him be like "Spider-Man". Superman is special. Superman is better than everyone else. And it's all because he's not human. The kryptonians are perfect.

That's what Millar believes in. Millar was working on this trilogy. Can you see now the influence?

You guys are too much of a pleb. I feel sorry.

Ok, ok, it was a coordinated effort.
Anyways, this is so sad, can we kill DC's comic division now? It's clear that's the only way WB will understand how bad they fucked up.

Wasn't Millar who said that Superman having sex with Lois Lane, is like a human having sex with a monkey?

I found Man of Steel tiresome to sit through, a real slog just for several minutes of super-ramping effects. By the time Zod and Superman faced off, I was seriously ready to leave the theater.
But I agree BvS was pure garbage. "What if these characters all behaved in a totally baffling manner so we can get to a fight climax?!": the motion picture.

>As the filmmaker explained, the pitch he’d presented with Mark Millar (whose comics Kick-Ass and The Secret Service Vaughn adapted into films) just didn’t fly. Millar has described how, in 2008, he and Vaughn pitched WB on a Superman film — the first in a proposed trilogy — that was “a massive, uplifting, hopeful thing,” but further details about the pair’s vision have been sparse. As Vaughn tells it, his Man of Steel 2 would have lifted many of the same ideas.
Yikes from me.

DC Comics are harmless niche.
The DCEU is basically already dead, all that's left is greenlit movies that will never see the light of day, Wonder Woman 2: 80's Boogaloo and the Gotham Universe.

That was Larry Niven

>But I agree BvS was pure garbage. "What if these characters all behaved in a totally baffling manner so we can get to a fight climax?!": the motion picture.
There was nothing baffling if you paid any attention to it.

>u just dindu geddit

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Technically the 3 first DCEU movies minus Suicide Squad were a Superman trilogy (MoS, BvS and JL) but many fans including myself wish to see a Supes solo movie

Counterpoint: Best Superman was from Louis&Clark when the focus was in their day to day lives.

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>Superman isn't just a normal guy with powers
He really is though. Millar can go fuck himself. The fact Clark is an "alien" is and always has been a mere excuse for why he has superpowers in the first place. It does not, and should not define him.

Him being just a normal nobody reporter is what makes him interesting, since Clumsy McSitcomDad has a heavy burden on his shoulders. He could end all wars, but is that right, or even practical? He could make world peace overnight, but sh

ould he? Or should he help it foster naturally? It's easy to say what an evil bastard would with such power, but what about a genuinely nice person who just want to make the world less shit? Well, that requires actual thought, so let's just harp on the aliens shit that nobody actually cares about.

>Wonder Woman 2: 80's Boogaloo
I hope it's based on the Perez run, weirdness and all

I paid attention both times I saw it; in theaters, and the Extended Apology Cut.
Both versions were just stupid characters doing stupid shit for stupid reasons.

DC needs to tell Warner to stop fucking around.

Warners has no fucking clue what they are doing

And that Vaughn idea is fucking stupid
Superman is an Orphan from Birth and raised on Earth
This YA novel teen drama angst crap "choose your loyalty" is shit hack work

Warner owns DC, the slave can't boss aroud its owner.

>There was nothing baffling if you paid any attention to it.

>Superman hears Lois all the way to the middle east
>Doesn't hear his mom being kidnapped in his own city
>Doesn't notice the wheelchair guy has a fucking bomb right next to him

It isn't just Millar, but Waid, Morrison, and several other writers that share that mentality. Silver age Superman wasn't just a normal guy either, he was a kryptonian first before anything else. Clark Kent was always nothing but a mere disguise to better fit in and understand the lowly humans.

This. And looking at the current state of Batman and Superman, I can't say these are the guys who should be making the creative choices for wide audience movies either.

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Oh, look. Nitpicks about things that are made obvious in the movie but this dipshit didn't realize because he got his head up his ass.

Really, how is Ma Kent being assaulted and Kidnapped in Metropolis with Supes none the wiser explained?

>"choose your loyalty"
That is perhaps the dumbest part of this, even allowing for the insanity of Clark growing up on Krypton. I'd imagine he'd choose the one where all of his living friends and family are. Lois, Jon, Ma and Pa Kent, Lana, Lori, Jimmy, Perry, Diana, Bruce... Almost everyone everyone dude cares about is on Earth. And that even includes the Legion, technically. For fucks sake.

She was assaulted in Smallville, and Clark didn't listen because he stopped paying attention to his mother. He was hyper-focused on Lois because she had become his go-to-comfort. Remember her pointing out to Clark that maybe their relationship might be getting between his work as Superman? Lex also points that out during the rooftop confrontation. Pay attention to the movie next time.

>and Clark didn't listen because he stopped paying attention to his mother.
Says who? He literally keeps going back to the farm to get his head straight. There's nothing in the movie to imply that he's less Mommy-dependent. Nor is there any implication that his super-hearing only works on a single area that he's focusing attention on. I'm not interested in your shitty fanfiction.

Dude, you either didn't pay attention to the movie or you're just that dumb.

Give Superman to Tomasi.

Synder’s Wonder Woman has one of the most popular solo flicks of all time.

>No Cavill.
I lost all interest in the DCEU.

F
better luck next time

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Why did WB believe in Snyder so fucking strongly that they kept giving him more projects? After the first few super dark edgy grim, all night all the time, bleeding edge fests you would think they might stop. But they kept giving him more movies. what the fuck is with the doubling and tripling down?

This didn't needed to be officially confirmed at all.
Just like everyone won't be surprised when there isn't going to be a Shazam sequel.

Honest-to-God, I don't really have a serious problem with you liking shitty Snyder/Goyer movies. Especially since I'll never be subjected to that crap again.

Snyderfags BTFO

Because Goyer and Snyder were the only ones willing to do a Superman movie that was less retarded than all the others they had seen pitchers for. Take this one from Vaughn, as an example. Or the JJ one where Superman and Lex Luthor are kryptnian brothers.

MoS made JUST enough money to convince WB that maybe he was onto something; if it had performed more like Watchmen it would have ended right there.
BvS was when they paid serious attention; a Trinity movie, fuck a movie with Batman, was not supposed to perform at sub-billion levels at the peak of Cape Movie hype.

BvS was made because Warner Brothers didn't feel that a MoS sequel would give them the profits they wanted. So they thought by throwing Batman at their "problem" they'd be swimming in money. But at some point Batman wasn't enough anymore. They needed Wonder Woman there as well. And the Flash, and Aquaman, and the entire goddamn Justice League. Because they wanted a Justice League movie pronto.

And Snyder had to make it work.

What do you think Snyder would have done with just Superman?
Flash, Aquaman and the others are literally hinted at for maybe a full minute in the film. Wonder Woman is in two short scenes, the party at Lex's and the Doomsday fight.
And Wonder Woman is practically the only reason to watch the movie.

A film with Superman dealing with EisenLuthor and maybe Metallo (?) would have been fucking Superman III levels of awful.

I think this just says that it won’t be him dumbass

>And Wonder Woman is practically the only reason to watch the movie.
To be absolutely fair, Diana IS best girl, so that's hardly surprising.

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BvS was the movie that woke WB to the reality that Batman wasn't even what drew audiences to the Batman films.

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Is Superman finally dead for a generation in pop culture?

Why does DC and WB only care on pumping out more and more Gotham shit by contrast?

>Superman
>Not raised by ma and Pa Kent
Sweet Christmas does WB just not fucking get it.

Hey it took us 35 years to finally move the fuck past Superman as a Jesus expy. Krypton might be boring but it's worlds better than long silent scenes of Superman floating in front of sunlight and long boring talks about savior of humanity, being a god coming down among mortals etc. When all anyone ever wanted was to see him fight a supervillain or a robot or something. All we ever got was normal bald guys who talk endlessly about how they are criminal geniuses over and over and over again.

Joker and Ms Joker have been the reliable money for WB over the decades.
The biggest cape movie for them in the 80's was Jack-Joker, the biggest cape movie in the modern era was Heath-Joker, and Skwad flew way over projections with it's Joker-intensive advertising.

Superman movies are Luthor, Zod and the occasional Luthor-created Evil Superman.
That's as far as WB's imagination goes.

Until that point, Warner always had the impression that simply having Superman or Batman in a movie would print money. They did not even have to do anything. Just put them there and the audiences would fucking love it because audiences fucking love them no matter what happens.

BvS and JLA underperforming probably surprised the fuck out of everyone at Warner because everything they had ever known for the last 30 years up to that point proved completely wrong. Because the Warner approach since the early 90s has always been
>If you put Batman in it, it will be ridiculously successful, no exceptions

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Warner Bros is going to make bank with Joker, Birds of Prey, possibly Batgirl, Nightwing, and so on. Not to mention the new Batman trilogy. I've been hearing talks of Robbie Margot appearing in the Reeves movie as a cameo.

Fuck it, the Dikewoman TV show might be a huge success.

>Kryptonians
>Perfect

Christ Almighty, read a comic book

All that is left is for WB to make another Superman movie with Kenan Michael Keegan as some computer programming savant that steals from banks and creates an AI Superman clone.

>BvS and JLA underperforming probably surprised the fuck out of everyone at Warner because everything they had ever known for the last 30 years up to that point proved completely wrong.
They legit blame it all on Ben Affleck giving them a poor portrayal of Batman. Every source of press release gives a low jab at Afffleck. They're still in denial.

>Warner Bros is going to make bank with Joker
I don't doubt it will turn a profit on its micro-budget, but don't get yourself excited for big box office coming out of it. It will underperform Shazam!.

It's not me, but actual DC writers that believe this shit. Writers like Millar here.

I was always more of a fan of Clark Kent. Never liked the whole character wank involving Superman that much. But i learned that my view is the wring one according to DC people. It's all about Superman and Krypton

>I don't doubt it will turn a profit on its micro-budget, but don't get yourself excited for big box office coming out of it. It will underperform Shazam!.
You're a deluded fuck.

I’m just so tired of Gotham shit. But they never do anything but that. I feel like WB/DC don’t intimately know anything BUT Gotham anymore.

Snyderverse a shit.
Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed.

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Joker seems destined to be the R-rated "Poor little Incel" movie.
If you think that's going to pull in audiences in numbers you are nuts. Women won't see it, children won't be taken to it, families in general will shun it. China won't screen it at all.
It will be fortunate to make half of Deadpool's take. I know you believe there are 200 million Trump-bots who will see it three times, and I don't know how to bring you back to reality.

You're in for a hell of a surprise.

It won't be the shock to me that Captain Marvel's BO was to you.
I know you WANT it to be, but its just another loser movie you are trying to will to success.
A sorta-Joker in bad facepaint battling plainclothes cops and random street thugs is a recipe for a shitty box office.

You remember that time, when everybody thought a hole in the wall in BvS was supposedly representative of the whale from moby dick? They said, BvS was inspired by Mony Dick and that the whale shaped hole confirmed that.
And then weeks later Snyder himself stated that, that very hole, was in fact representative of Ontario Canada, it was a homage to one of superman's creators.
That was a good day.

How did it come to this? How did they fuck the DCEU up so fucking bad from day 1?

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it has a much better chance of pulling in theater shooters, people have too many reasons to avoid that fucking disaster

In 2019? Yea no, no one is going to give much of a fuck about how horrible things are going for a white male with literally every advantage western society has offered to him as much as possible still going back despite it all. It's fucking
>Woe is me, I'm white and struggling!
bullshit fantasy. And no one is going to buy it.

Snyder didn't direct it, don't gaslight people

>Z-Zach Snyder makes good films!
>single-handedly made Batman AND Superman box office poison

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>he update affirms the report thatHenry Cavill is no longer part of Warner Bros. Pictures and DC Films’ future film plans.
Hahahaha. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

That was Whedon.

It makes me mad since Affleck was an objectively good Batman when we wasn't in a state of clear psychological distress

>Hey it took us 35 years to finally move the fuck past Superman as a Jesus expy.
You're not claiming Man of Steel did this are you?

I mean, you say that, but Batman is still the most popular superhero ever, and he's old money ultra rich too, as well as being a self-absorbed prick. Just saying.

But Batman is the ultimate rich fantasy. He's a wealthy heir that gets to throw money around playing superhero with a cool car and private plane.

Shazam opened doors to multiverse. Now we no longer need to really on DCEU format.

>it took us 35 years to finally move the fuck past Superman as a Jesus expy
Did you just completely ignore Snyder's Superman shit?

Also that nobody in Hollywood want to touch Superman with a tentpole. Remember George Miller's rant about how boring Superman was? All these retarded changes are from guys that really hate Supes and wish to be doing something else so they turn him into his own OC-do-not-steal. They could hire a TV director like Disney often does but WB is the last relic of the old studio system so they're old fashioned, not used to micromanage every aspect of the film like Disney does. Still liked what Snyder did. Fuck the media, fuck the shills

Ghostbusters
Men In Black
The Mummy
>subjective
fuck off mate

Nice Hallmark movie, user

Well, it was rejected man, give them that at least, what surprises me is how Matthew Vaughn thought that was good.

>the report thatHenry Cavill is no longer part of Warner Bros. Pictures and DC Films’ future film plans.
The dream is dead.
Goodnight everyone.

Pity. Word is they were considering Metallo.

>This means Cavill no longer

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Hell yeah. Aquaman 2: Lovecraft and Wardogs babeh!

Would've refreshing. It's invariably Lex or Zod. Fuck that, use Parasite, or hell, Brainiac. Maxima, Mxy, Toyman, Ultra-Humanite, fuckin someone different. Livewire is pretty popular these days, use her. That'd be a bold choice.

... Fuck, this is starting to feel like fighting game picks.

I am genuinely depressed by this.

Hopefully they're cooking up a new solo Superman movie that has nothing to do with Snyder's. If that's it, then I'm genuinely saddened by the state of the DCEU.

Fuck Snyder.

Watch Brightburn

Nothing of value lost. They played their hands too early and poorly.

>Wonder if up next it's the death of DC movies completely
Not after TalksToFishMan did over a Billion, bruh.

This is the reason

No Henry, no ticket.

I told you getting inspired by Batman's atmosphere and trying to apply it to all heroes was a dumb idea. Batman killed the setting by being popular.

That’s stupid

>Cavill is no longer part of Warner Bros. Pictures and DC Films’ future film plans.
Who will he be cast as in the MCU now that he's free to play for the winning team, /co?

>Getting rid of the only reasons why your movies are somewhat popular

Brainiac feels like an obvious choice, considering their love of Krypton stuff.

Genis-Vell

Captain Britain

It was gonna be originally, but those greedy fucks at WB decided to put Batman in it so that it could sell. WB never puts faith in their financial failures. Why else do you think GL was not present in JL?

Curious. Batman did kill Superman... and everyone else.

Hell yeah.

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based

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>snyder is a transwoman
Had no idea

Post your Superman movie pitches.
Cast, plot, etc.

>Tom Welling reprises role as Clark
>Takes place in metropolis, origin skipped
>Lobo is the villain played by Javier Bardem
>Rashida Jones as Lois Lane
>Chris Pratt as Space Cabbie
>Plot revolves around Space Cabbie fleeing to Earth on the run from Lobo because he has a large bounty on him to due to space-gambling debt
>Clark has to hide and protect Space Cabbie from Lobo while juggling his first dates with Lois
>Directed by Tim Miller and David Sandberg

>Tom Welling
No thank you.

>it's a movie about the wacky misadventures of jimmy olsen by wes anderson.
>superman does super things in the background, lois does reporter things in the background, while jimmy gets subjected to shenanigans, mistaken identity, and opportunties to crossdress.
>starring rupert grint.

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He only killed Superman since Batman is getting another reboot movie, and Wonder Woman is getting WW84, plus Aquaman did over 1 billion.

>Batman is getting another reboot movie
phoenix joker is a standalone movie, though. do you mean something else?

BATMAN superman damian

He is talking about Robert Pattinson as the new Batman.

I've always preferred this take because this sense of detachment helps to understand him better as a character, by giving him a trait a lot of humans also feel in other contexts. Meaning ultimately that despite being different from humans, he still wants to fit in as much as they do.

>a genuinely nice person who just want to make the world less shit?
god, it would be so easy to be this person and try and fix everything and end up making it all worse

No that was hack Snyder nigger,he is worst to happen to the DCEU. The destroys what he touches with his edgyness.

If your taste is that bad, you are unable to be saved.

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BATMAN superman damian

in the same way captain america was avengers 3

I can't stand to fly...
I'm not that naive...

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>Superman is dead

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I'd watch that as an animated feature with an art-style like Into The Spider-verse

Because Synder's wife was the producer. Literal nepotism.

That, and execs fearing that firing him would suggest "problems behind the scenes" and "imply the franchise is in trouble".

BATMAN superman damian

She's a producer in his own company, retard.

I think she'd be a good Lois

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Bump.

>Renew Henry Caville's contract
>David Tennant as Manchester Black
>Adapt "What's So Funny..."
>Give us the trunks
>Post credit scene of Henshaw and crew entering into space with Hank assuring the crew nothing can happen to them as long as Superman's around with a shot of their view down seeing Supes flying as a blue streak high above the Earth
>Directed by the Russo Bros

DC FUCKUINGN REKKKTTT

BATMAN superman damian

Just means they're probably gonna do the same thing with Supes as they're doing with Matt Reeves/Battinson.

Soft reboot that retains it's ability to cross back over with other established character franchises like Aquaman, Shazam, and Wonder Woman.

They'll basically be asking audiences to do what they did when Disney made Ruffalo Hulk but didn't make The Incredible Hulk any less valid to the MCU.

>They'll basically be asking audiences to do what they did when Disney made Ruffalo Hulk but didn't make The Incredible Hulk any less valid to the MCU.
They simply changed the actor for Bruce Banner, they didn't de-age him and retcon murderous rampages/attempts on other heroes' lives.
It's nothing similar.

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This is a bit more dramatic of a fix then a simple recast for sure but it's similar. The audience isn't gonna complain when Robert Pattinson, Jason Mamoa, Gal Gadot, whoever the new Superman will be, and maybe even Zachary Levi brush past JL/BvS being a thing because they'll still be stoked to see everyone interact with each other after everything is built up and set into place. Who knows, maybe we'll get that Flashpoint movie that'll explain why everything's reset.

>He managed to kill Superman, Batman and the entirety of DC's original trinity for good.
Wonder Woman came out of this shitpile smelling of roses. Matt Reeves and based Pattinson will save Batman. Superman is absolutely fucked forever though

>Just means they're probably gonna do the same thing with Supes as they're doing with Matt Reeves/Battinson.
Nope. They're making Supergirl instead

Asian Supes is always the best Supes.

He's right moron. THat's what the kryptonians were before being rebooted to be Saiyans in the 90s and 00s. They represented the perfect society and the perfect ubermensch as imagined by two jewish guys and later they presented the perfect society with goofy adventures in the 50s and later. Shit, Superman and Earth-2 supes originally didn't even need the whole gravity and solar rays things, Zor-L just jumped from building to building with a baby in hand until he reached his home.

Man of Steel was trash and Zack Snyder being hired was a massive mistake.

in maybe a decade or two

Superman is tainted and no longer relevant

and then its over after the Aquaman movie is over

That wasn't the original trinity. As a matter of fact, I think Swamp Thing might also be promising.
It will probably be like it was with Marvel; they'll pick out the more "obscure" heroes and make them work.

Aquaman has another 2 films in it. Aquaman and Wonder Woman being so successful has been a real double edged sword

to this day i still don't know why people get their panties in a bunch over man of steel. it was great and captured a certain awespiring feel no other superhero movie has since.
BvS may have been boring and convoluted with forced EU tie ins, but that doesn't retroactively make its predecessor bad.

DC characters are corny and outdated, and don't lend themselves to live action.

he won't be in the MCU because he's devoid of charisma

Well that just isn't true
They gave the keys of the kingdom to a complete hack and a suit who was more interested in fucking some whore than quality control.

>Just means they're probably gonna do the same thing with Supes as they're doing with Matt Reeves/Battinson.

I don't think you understand how tarnished the Superman brand is and how irrelevant he has become for a whole generation of people.

>He thinks they're just going to give up making garaunteed money off of one of literally the biggest characters in all of fiction because some kids these days don't appreciate him as much

They're going to freshen up the franchise and plug right on.

His squinty eyes made him look like the Fleischer Studios Superman.

Man, imagine if the shooter incident when The Dark Knight was airing will happen again but this time there'll be several of them.

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Mousehaters will seethe just as planned

Muh dead daughter

What a mess of an extended universe.
At least the movies are good now.

All the article really says is that Vaughn isn't making a Superman movie, is salty about it, and the writers run with it and make all sorts of assumptions. Just another day in DCU clickbait.

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>Cavill later posted a genuinely bizarre video on Instagram lifting a Superman action figure with the caption “Today was exciting. #superman”. Collider also reported this year that the actor was still Superman, saying there was “no truth” to the “patently inaccurate” rumors.
>“Aquaman” actor Jason Momoa also defended Cavill last December in an interview with Entertainment Tonight, saying “he loves the character and he’s not (leaving the role), 100 percent.”

It's genuinely annoying at this point that we can't take news at face value. The DCU only gets accurate reporting in its own fucking releases. Cavil *may* be out and we may never be getting MoS3 (BvS was 2), but we won't know what is clickbait or media bias until either is announced by press release from WB directly. It's all so tiresome.

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Audiences will never be "stoked" for DC for a decade more.

Isn't Wonder Woman doing okay though?

and it will flop

>Polygon
Archive that shit.

>Him being just a normal nobody reporter is what makes him interesting, since Clumsy McSitcomDad has a heavy burden on his shoulders. He could end all wars, but is that right, or even practical? He could make world peace overnight, but should?

Superman has problems with this concept coming outta the water because it's not cool or entertaining despite it being inspiring, like Batman for example.

Superman is nice because he's a perfect being and is not a real human but a being sent to become like one by his perfect and holy alien parents from space.

>Joker
>incel

DId you not see black Domino as the love interest

How hard is it to do a superman film with him reporting in a foreign country (tax breaks for development), supes faces a situation with both a fight and saving civilians. He chooses civilians and must endure more than a few encounters, when he finally stops the villains plan a physical battle occurs.
Studio gets breaks, old geezer fans/traditionalist gets classic civilian-peacekeeper supes/ fight junkies get final battle cgi epic/ foreign location means ability to take supes to other audiences.

Hell fill most of the films with chinese product placement.

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THIS.

Both Man of Steel and Batman v Superman had very strong openings at the box office -- the latter in spite of the poor reputation garnered by MoS. Both of them experienced very sharp declines because most people didn't like them, but interest was clearly there. It was only with the release of Justice League that audiences' good graces were used up. While I do think that a decent amount of time will need to pass before it becomes viable to take another stab at a Superman movie, the idea that Superman's place in pop culture could be taken away by a few shitty films seems a bit silly to me.