Steve would unironically be a much better mentor to Spiderman than Tony Stark ever was

Would have been amazing. They never showed us Steve training anyone but it's implied at the end of Ultron and the start of Civil War ("Wanda, just like we practised").

Such as?

Peter's specialties are in chemistry not mechanical engineering

I mean Winter Soldier is basically all about how compromising integrity for pragmatism just fucked SHIELD and almost the world.

Implying they care about the morals they half-heartedly tried to show in cap movies.

Peter learns that he shouldn't lean and depend on his heroes to do everything for him and that he's more than just the suit. Tony begins to learn how to navigate as a parental figure before Morgan comes around.

It's not that black and white dude relax. Steve is obviously the vital moral center but times *have* changed.
Exactly like that yeah. Did it come in handy to bring back half of like on Earth?

>Peter learns that he shouldn't lean and depend on his heroes to do everything for him and that he's more than just the suit
Couldn't they just that in the beginning instead of "Mr .Stark noticed me!" shit in Homecoming?

>makes contact with Peter just to fight Steve in the
>hang his secret identity over his head so he can be your child soldier
>abandon Peter once his petty spat is over
>doesn't return any of his calls
>body guard even ignores him
>give him a suit with a kill mode and still let him be unsupervised
What a great mentor

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You mean the through-line for Caps entire character being based on his unstoppable moral clarity while being surrounded by people who sacrifice their morals for success and pay the price? Like how Cap always knows what to do in ambiguous situations due to him never being morally comprised? How Tony gave up on changing the world during the five years and Cap never did? Are you a fucking moron or just underage?

Well, he might need it after all. He won't always be fighting regular thugs and relatable tragic villains.

It is kinda weird but I mean alien monsters are killable, I’ve made peace with that

Peter was Spider-Man before Tony approached him so he knew all of that. But I guess because Homecoming retconned Peter's independence it doesn't matter. Also Tony didn't mentor Peter at all, he had more of a connection with the kid from Iron Man 3

>Did it come in handy to bring back half of like on Earth?
Peter activates it on a few of Thanos goons surrounding him when he has the gauntlet.

Thank goodness he had that it's not like he's agile or anything

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Penis Parker would be a much better mentor to Virgin Rogers

If you wanna get needlessly pedantic it's not like MCU Pete and this comic iteration are anywhere near as experienced. Comic Pete has like a decade on literal teen MCU Pete.

Why can't Peter just go to Old Steve for advice

Most of MCU Peter's experience as a hero is street level shit. He's never had aliens dog piling him before for an item that decides the entire fate of the universe.

>built his own webshooters
>has been a scientist working on his own tech
He is very much capable of doing so. He's just not on the same level as Stark.

If only he had some power to assist him. Like a sixth sense that worked with his agility. A spider sense, if you will. Peter just runs like a retard not even using his power set and defaults onto the kill mode

The shooters themselves aren't the impressive part it's the fluid.

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None of that counts because they spat on all of that when they made Cap abandon his friends and fuck off to the past so he could be with Peggy. Being niece-fucker was a nice side-quest.

>Cap asked Spidey what's part of New York does he from, have more connection than Spidey and Iron Man

Tony was trying to find a solution to undo the snap in those 5 years while Steve was doing therapy sessions and grief counseling. God forbid the man not want to risk tearing apart the universe at the seams, creating something worse and causing everyone's demise like he told Scott.

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Steve being moral guidance to Peter is closest to Uncle Ben

To be fair, he did put the killmode and other features behind a series of security protocols, and had the baby monitor on hooked up to a semi-autonomous remote controllable iron man suit.

At least we didn't get the point where they turned Tony into the bad guy and have Reed Richards adopt the young intern.

He was 15 years old user. Now he's made stealth suits and armored versions of his costume. I hate Slott but he's managed to really put a shine on Peter's technical skills. He's a genius in the field.

>Co-leaders of the Avengers.
>Each has his own endearingly upbeat bug-themed rookie fanboy.
Pottery

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>Both have close friends named James
>Both have a close friend that's black
Pottery

It's almost as if Tony learned from his mistake with Ultron of not jumping the gun to save/protect the universe. That user is just retarded.

Bullshit, considering in the follow-up movie he has a knee-jerk reaction to Ultron and tries to essentially enslave all his friends for HIS mistake they had no hand in.

Tony and Peter's dynamic was a poor mans version of this

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Why are western artists so bad at drawing movement and action? There's no impact or sense of speed in your picture at all.

Also, why would a kick hurt a man who's whole schtick is being like rubber?

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The mcu wishes it were half as good as this series.

That's Tony's control freak side coming in. Of course the man who wants a suit of armor around the world would put an AI in the suit

I like the MCU but I have to agree

No he's not. Slott made him smart in just "science" most Marvel intelligent characters are just broadly smart. Peter had a speciality but it was thrown out the window

>interventionist guy
>good
Fuck off good goy

Because Spider-Man is extremely powerful, and he could have reduced Reed Richards into a pile of rubber chunks by using his wall crawling abilities.
>Spider-Man's exposure to the mutated spider venom induced a mutagenic, cerebellum-wide alteration of his engrams resulting in the ability to mentally control the flux of inter-atomic attraction (electrostatic force) between molecular boundary layers.
>the ability to mentally control the flux of inter-atomic attraction (electrostatic force) between molecular boundary layers.
Wall Crawling if used offensively is broken as shit. He could pretty much kill anyone by touching them. Too bad he'll only ever use it for Mark of Kaine or putting Iron Man in his place.

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I like the MCU too. But Batman Beyond held its own against BTAS.

Also, check this out. If DC decides to bring Batman Beyond back into some follow up movie his little brother Matt will become the new Robin

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Ultron was the biggest reason but we see Ross showing incidents outside of the ones in AOU that supposedly take place in between films where Caps Avengers were fucking shit up that had nothing to do with Tony. All those incidents piled up on top of the Ultron one and Lagos was the catalyst. AMATW shows us how ineffective the Accords were in stopping super heroes from doing their thing anyway. If they couldn't stop Scott and Hope who didn't sign I doubt they'd be able to stop a full team who did. All not signing did was split the team apart and make over half of them fugitives.

I don't know but its annoying as someone who reads a decent amount of manga. Capeshit action is garbage most of the time, your reading it for the characters/plot. Its also monthly instead of weekly like many action manga so you need to use the pages for story or you risk pissing off your audience for "padding"

That's the same bullshit that put Castlevania Simon in the multiverse tier busting nonsense

Did the comic team ever explain why they fucking RUINED the eyes on the Batman suit?

His specialty was always chemistry I don’t know where the fuck he got tech shit from

They did because they thought it be funny which was a dumb move on their part...

I didn’t know that. That’d be really neat.
I don’t think Evans has the presence to be old man Cap as he appeared at the end of Endgame but him training the younguns could be interesting.

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I'd like to see that as well anything is better than Tony training anyone.

Did we even get a single Stark Industries training room sequence in the MCU? All the best Avengers stuff went to the Avengers Assemble cartoon. But props to EMH for making them more interesting and human.

Nope nothing in the MCU. sadly

Other than the party scene in AOU and the bit with Tony, Banner, and Nat in EG, MCU failed on all fronts to sell the explicit team bonding and found family tropes other iterations do.

It shouldn't hurt him much at all, just some Spiderwank. Reed has fought tons of guys stronger than spidey, while spidey can get knocked out by street level thugs. Comics are horrifically inconsistent when it comes to powers.

>No he's not
>Slott made him smart in just "science" and he did these things that clearly indicate he's smarter than what his field signifies
>most Marvel intelligent characters are just broadly smart
I see what you mean, but that still makes Peter smart outside of chemistry (I thought it was also biochemistry, but I'm not smart so I don't know the difference). Much as I hate to say it, canon is canon.

Racists.

>Tony was trying to find a solution to undo the snap in those 5 years
Tony fucked off to a summer home in the woods to live with his wife and raise a daughter. No where in Endgame was it implied he was doing any Avenging or helping the world, he was literally so pissed at Steve at the beginning of the movie he told him to fuck off forever and barely gave him the time of the day when Steve and Scott visited with the time travel plan.
Steve and Nat where the ones actually doing Avengers activity and trying to help the world cope the with Snap.

You know who would be the best mentor to Peter Parker/Spider-Man? Fucking nobody, as Stan Lee & Steve Ditko intended.

Agent Peggy would unironically something something hottest woman in the mcu

Spidey can kill street level thugs with ease. He always holds back. Spider-Man can punch hard enough to cause fissures.

>multiversal castlevania simon
I had to look up what the fuck you're talking about, and it's just power level shit. Powerlevelfags hate Spider-Man, so that makes Spider-Man based.
Anyways, Spidey's wall crawling power isn't just "sticking to walls" it's controlling electrostatic forces, and wall crawling is just an application of that power. If you don't think the ability to control the forces that bind molecules is powerful, then you're wrong.

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but muh uncle ben

He can but he jobs constantly. Still a complete wank page.

Well Nat was avenging with help from Carol, Okoye, Rhodes and rocket. Steve was running the support group things. Maybe the very thing Cap was trying to do to get over things made him retreat further into the past, talking about it. Which is immensely depressing. Like a grief counselor killing himself.

Uncle Ben is a father figure and gives guidience to him, not a mentor.

Canon is only canon is until someone changes it

>he's weak because he jobs
Most characters in cape comics job. In Spidey's case, he jobs because he holds himself back.

I never said he was weak, just wildly inconsistent. In any case, I really hate that page, the action/art isn't nearly good enough to justify the cringey content.

arachnids are not Insects you Cretin

If he was as pissed as you're making him out to be then he wouldn't have asked Steve and the others if they wanted to stay for dinner.

He literally says he's happy to see them though. And judging from Black Widow's scenes there wasn't a large need for Iron Man to fly around fucking people up.

>implying "bugs" means insects and not just any little invertebrate

Yep. Fingers crossed it's for the better.

That's a big word for an invertebrate like you you fucking mollusk.

He was being polite. He told them to fuck off still ("got my second chance right here Cap" and so on).

How many times does it need to be said? Tony dismissed the time travel plan because at the moment he knew of no way to do it safely. He was wary of destroying the fabric of reality and the inner workings of the universe and Scott was literally saying it'd be fine if they followed the rules from a fictional story. We then see him go to work once again later in the same day with the possibility in mind. Do you deliberately pick what you want to be angry over while ignoring everything else?

None of them are bugs, though.

Someone being cautious of fully jumping back into the dangerous line of work that they do while now having a family is a normal and human response, user. Call it selfish if you want but it's understandable. At the end of the day once Tony cracked the code on how to bring everyone back he agreed because it's like Pepper said, it'll finally let him rest.

Endgame would be a much better movie if it never existed

Amen to that. Would have still let me maintain the respect I had for various characters, chiefly Iron Man.

t. autismos

why is is that DC makes EXCELLENT fucking animated films, but sucks ass at live-action movies, and vice-versa for marvel? Even DC kids gets better ratings than Marvels best animated films, but B-list Marvel heroes have more lucrative movies than Justice League.

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>DC
>Excellent animated movies

Such as?

>Peter's specialties are in chemistry not mechanical engineering
EXACTLY. I'm way over MCUshit at this point, but why was Spidey fanboying over IRON MAN AND NOT BRUCE? It's fucking retarded. Peter is not a fucking tech guy.

Technovore and Confidential were fantastic. And we’ll probably never get any more.

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Bruce was a minor Easter egg, as picture in Peter's home room, but I wish Homecoming had Ruffalo too.

Or Reed Richards, or Hank Pym, or better yet, not a superhero! Let him deal with his own problems, that makes him more interesting and unique as a character.
>I loved Parker Industries era ASM and can't wait to see it adapted, only this time with motivation from Jesus Stark!

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What if they gave him a family figure to look up to and mourn. It won't be as grand as Iron Man but it'll mean something to Peter as a character

Gotham Knight is unsurpassed. Ninja Batman ain't too shabby either, if you just want silly action.

so would your dad but they were both on the run

This is retarded and wrong.

By you pic, I'd think it's because they don't use speed lines