I've seen a lot of people complaining about Kyle Rayner portrayal by Tom King in HEROES IN CRISIS. So i decided to dump OMEGA MEN for you guys to see how he really writes the character.
Just a heads up. Expect Kyle as a suicidal and depress mess that get his chain yanked by everyone and is completely pussy-whipped by a super capable and oh so real goddess of a woman that manipulates his sorry ass because apparently he's too much of a naive full with his belief of altruism and optimism.
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>Tom King writes a character as suicidal
I am shocked. SHOCKED.
Well, not that shocked.
I would rather Kyle be depressed and beaten down than a mary sue. King's Omega men was exactly Kyle needed.
Fuck King
Well, lets get this show on the road.
Good choice. Great book
See I can't believe you faggots are gonna defend this mary sue bullshit.
>Que eres me
Google Translate could give you a better translation than this, whatever is he trying to say?
>dumping Omega Men
holy based.
ps me llamo t-bone la arana discoteca
is that supposed to be Spanish? cause I speak Spanish and that phrase is incoherent.
I think OP's plan to make fun of King is gonna backfire.
To be fair, this is something editors should pick up on.
God forbid a hero get to be heroic and shit.
It's just a generic war story about Space Middle-East.
>que...que eres me
Based strokeposter
>It's just a generic war story about Space Middle-East.
Maybe but it's the best thing kyle has been in a decade.
>Every Mexican American speaks spanish non stop and prays.
Sounds pretty racist to me. Smh.
Kyle himself was completely Out of Character, so that doesn't say much.
>Great book
Omega Men is trash.
Well maybe Kyle should find a better character than Mary sue.
He used to have one, but then GL Rebirth took all his shit away from him.
The Green Lanterns are intergalactic cops that carry around their middle finger the universe's most powerful and dangerous weapon. They're all Mary Sues by definition.
Queefeaters like you don't get that Kyle is Best Lantern, just not Best GREEN Lantern
So why did kyle need to be super speshul white lantern Mary sue?
Then you should be happy about omega men because it gave him a character again.
What did he do as a White Lantern that was so Mary Sue-ish in your opinion? You must have a list of complaints since you keeping yepping about it.
The same character every King's protagonists have?
Give me the examples yourself.
Better than being written by a kylefag. Kylefag have no sense of perspective and are still butthurt that kyle isn't the super special lantern he was 30 years ago.
There is no good in becoming a protagonist written by King.
Him being the super speshul white lantern that everyone love and who Carol left for Hal.
That's a shitty mary sue.
Good for you, you learned how to use Google.
>White Lantern
Huh, so they went back and fixed the mistake.
King gave so little a shit about Kyle, and did so little research that he didn't even know Kyle was a White Lantern until after half the book was done.
Remember how back then he pulled the same usual bullshit about how Kyle Rayner was his favorite character and he cared so much for it?
Yeah. He says the same shit for every book. Its just like Bendis and he always says the current book is his TRUE favourite character and he's does sooooo much research, and he's staying true to the character blah blah blah.
I've just stopped reading interviews all together. Its all a bunch of horseshit.
I thought you guys wanted them to write characters for white males?
By King's own admission, Omega Men was the lowest selling book at the time.
I'm not American and I don't think I have ever met a Mexican in my life. If I ever see Spanish in a comic I just ignore it and move on. If it was important it would be in English. So I have to wonder why they do it, especially if it's just nonsense like you guys say.
B-but Yea Forums claims Omega Men is the best book ever and totally doesn't suck!
This series works much better with text dump at the start. Helps you understand the Vega System's status quo from the start, rather than learning the context later.
Its something that white writers do to show how diverse and not racist they are. More common in white writers that pretend that they are hispanic despite the fact that they are totally white. Like that Ms. America writer.
Kyle is going to show a lot more this issue, after expending the entire past issue sitting inside a box while everyone around him dies.
So you can't even deny Kyle was written like a mary sue.
>Yea Forums almost convinced me to buy Omega Men
Jesus christ. I should have expected this, coming from the board that creams its jeans over Ewing shit.
Es Cinco de Mayo ahora?
>sales=quality
Normally I would admonish you posting images in a storytime but OP is being a little bitch.
>implying you buy comics
You're just a tourist.
Glad to know that Tom King's Batman is so popular with the fans. And the fact that its poor sales is no indicator of the failure that it is.
He wasn't a Mary Sue, since Carol was only helping him to master the Emotional Spectrum so he'd could save Hal, and that's the main reason why she also made him fall for her. So he could master the Star Sapphire's light.
You know how fucking dumb that sounds?
Just keep on posting images user, end this thread's misery.
Carol was desperate, Kyle's an emotional faggot, and yes, IT IS dumb, but you were also wrong. I'm not defending that book, i'm just pointing out your weak-ass attempt.
I also find it funny the complaint that Kyle is a Mary Sue because he became a White Lantern once, when Hal Jordan and Thaal Sinestro both became White Lanterns too. Even Batman was a White Lantern for a bit.
Just following the example of Hal, his idol.
Then there's the fact that Jordan wore pretty much every ring there is, Guy Gardner wore both Green and Red, John Stewart wore both Green and Purple, and so on. The Lanterns are constantly swapping rings.
What a dumb place to post an image
>Carol was desperate
Oh so Carol being written out of character is ok? At least King gave Kyle a rational excuse for being "out of character". Where's the logic in Carol forcing Kyle to love her so she can master the violet light so she can find Hal?
To my knowledge Kyle never gave a shit about speaking Spanish before now. What, did DC forget they had Jessica?
>i'm just pointing out your weak-ass attempt.
But he's completely right, Kyle was a fucking mary sue.
>At least King gave Kyle a rational excuse for being "out of character".
No, he didn't.
>Where's the logic in Carol forcing Kyle to love her so she can master the violet light so she can find Hal?
She wanted Kyle to master the violet light so HE could master all the emotions and be able to rescue Hal thanks to it. For him to master the violet light she made him fall for her so it'd be easier.
You didn't even read that dumb book, did you? You're just holding onto anything in order to defend King.
Then all the Lanterns are Mary Sues. They're all capable of cracking a planet in half with their ring.
>No, he didn't.
Him being a powerless hostage to terrorists is a good excuse tho.
Being a mary sue isn't power levels but the story bending overbackwards to make you the most important person.
No, because a character doesn't need to change his characterization completely just because he's powerless and held up.
Kyle still isn't a Mary Sue, because that never. If there was a Mary Sue, it was Hal. The stories all revolved around him.
Here's the book's Catwoman, by the way.
>For him to master the violet light she made him fall for her so it'd be easier.
That doesn't make sense and only exist so Carol can become kyle's love interest.
Star Sapphire's Ring is all about love. I understand that Carol becoming Kyle's love interest was dumb. I hated it too.
>Kyle still isn't a Mary Sue,
The fact that Carol went to Kyle to find Hal and forcing herself to fall in love with Kyle so he can master the violet light of love points to yes, he was.
Lol this is a direct word for word translation of What am I? But obviously it is incorrect. Funny enough Google translate gives the right translation too.
Carol didn't force herself to fall in love with Kyle, she forced Kyle to fall in love with her. It was his feelings that were being manipulated. Get it right, please.
And in the end Hal escaped by himself. Hell, he even managed to make Nekron his Pokemon.
>Star Sapphire's Ring is all about love.
But where's the logic in forcing herself to love kyle? Even after Hal came back she was still in love with kyle.
You know that ruined Carol as a character right? They stop using her because of that.
The feelings were mutual though, She loved kyle even after hal came back. So it sounds like Justin jordan just wrecked her character just so she can be Kyle's girlfriend.
She fell in love with Kyle by mistake. Their time spent together and all.
I know, i find it dumb.
Kyle Rayner has always been an on-again and off-again overpowered mary sue. or did you forget his time as Ion?
But that can be said about every Lantern, though. What about Hal? John? Guy?
Kyle did it first even in the 90s when he was new
Are you retarded? Kyle came after Parallax Hal.
Parallax and Zero Hour was a thing that happened, you know.
Remember when John became a Guardian and controlled his own world?
He could have just asked someone if that sentence makes sense. I'm sure Jiménez would have told him if he had asked.
All part of Primus' masterplan.
>the sad state of Halfags
By the way, i remember the OMEGA MEN defenders using this issue to prove that King was well read on Kyle Rayner, despite the characterization being way off the mark.
Is it really that hard to find someone to translate what you wanna say into spanish?
I like the art here.
Going to make a pause.
> legend of zelda shield
Oh my god!
I did like Omega Men, user. Wasn't perfect, but I thought it was a good read.
I see it spelled "Brahmins" and "Bramins" did nobody fucking edit this?
Thanks for the storytime
And space messiah Mosaic John.
Bump in case you're coming back
how the fuck does his nose fit under that mask?
How brave, you can't hide the sales, those are facts.
Now, admitting that it sucked, that would have been honest.