Amazing Spider-man #22 storytime

Where Kraven finally finds peace

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Here's to a thread without
>Cheesecakefag
>Pastaspammer
>Gwenshipper
>Maryjanehater
>Coffebeanautist

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No spidey ;-;

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"No…Not again! I have to get out of here and save MJ!"

Ugh. I'm about to crawl into that casket with Kraven. I'm bored to death by these monotonous "get home to save MJ" plot lines.

:D Spidey yes

Oh thank god.

Kraven you lil shid

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The only thing I hate about this is that The Lizard has been drawn so fucking differently all over the arc

Holy shit what the hell is wrong with Spider-man in the second panel?

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Wait, did Lizard just murder Kivan's kid?

It's the artist. The limbs look off throughout the issue.

Yeah yeah yeah but where is Beetle? If I don't see my waifu again I will FLIP.

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I think the implication was that he was about to, but seeing Billy's face made him decide not to deal the finishing blow.

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YEY! VULTURE! FUCK YEAH!

Relax. She was in a solicitation for an upcoming issue. She's on the cover and everything. She's fine.

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How the fuck does Ramos keep getting work?

Okay this is bad even by Ramos' standards

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Um okay.
Well at least it makes more sense than Wally not killing himself.
But it's still a bit of a sudden development.
Editorial got involved again? "No Spencer, Spidey doesn't kill ever"?

don't post images during a storytime, user

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She's gonna lead her own Sinister Syndicate comprised of Carolyn Trainer, White Rabbit, Francine Frye Electro and Scorpia.

My bad I thought you wouldn't mind since the issue is about to end

It's really bad. It's fucking hilarious how bad it is.

Maybe he's always on time? lol

He's very fast.

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Oooh will she kidnap Miles from some /ss/?

horrible cover

no problem, just a common courtesy so it's not interrupted

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No, as tracyscops showed, Black Cat has that particular job lined up.

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>the saga concludes
FINALLY
I was fucking sick of hunted, it really didn't do it for me.

If only these comics weren't infested by all the fucking SJW's preventing us from seen buttholes and nipples, we could even see Black Cat and Beetle undressing each other and caressing each other seductively while their thighs are clasped shut over the helpless bodies of Miles and Billy who literally have no idea what the fuck is going on!!

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f
good guy spencer has restored balance.

Dumb but about what I expected

Ugh fuck this another villain turned Spider-man?
What is he going to call himself? The Wilderness Spider-man? Spider-Hunter?

And done! If you liked it, buy it at your LCS or something

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Nice twist with the exception that Peter and Kraven have completely different body types.

THAT'S A LOT OF HALF NAKED BOYS

OH FUCK

How about Spider-Dead
Because he's dead. Get it?

Can't wait for another 5 children Kraven made and told nobody about!

Why do you think they got Ramos on this?

I was......RUNNING

Spideadman

Eh the pacing was off with this whole arc. The end seemed rush with Kraven's realization of the man being what makes Spidey worthy. Too quick of a turn around kind of took away the impact of Kraven's sacrifice.

Now hopefully we can start getting some answers on who the demon thingy is.

Nice resolution, thanks OP

Dumb idiot clones himself a dozen times then he's happy they kill each other then he suddenly cares.
I suddenly remember why I don't like Kraven as a villain. He's got nothing to do with New York. The "concrete jungle" metaphor can only get you so far, this guy is a complete foreigner. And then there were those times he kept getting fucked over by Calypso. He's just pathetic as a character.

When are Taskmaster and Black Ant getting back together?

I'm aware Black Cat has a degree of superhuman abilities, but how is Felicia still standing?

We get it. Black Cat bonded with "Lizard Boy." Spencer seemingly wants to convey to readers the revelation of Peter's identity has made Felicia more sympathic and unselfish, which I don't mind, but this has dragged on for six issues.

Were they hoping a crappy enough joke would distract people from the injustice that is her ass?

He'll be back.

No letters page?

He's already got a clone son and he gave Spidey his word he would never hunt again in any life time. Let him rest, Marvel!

nah, it's good.

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I still have faith that Spencer is most likely building up to something bigger than this. So far we have:
Team Hell
>Mysterio
>Kingpin
>Centipede
>Mephisto
>Joe Quesada

Team Villains
>Vulture
>White Rabbit
>Hammerhead
>Arcade
>Kraven Jr
>Aunt May's cancer

F
>Gibbon
>Ned Leeds
>Stromm
>Kraven Sr.

Presumed RIP
>Iguana
>Gazelle
>Mad Dog
>Man-Bull

Wild Cards
>Taskmaster
>Black Ant
>Big Man Jr.
>Thieves Guild
>All the extra Z-listers ever minus the ones who died

And potentially joining team Spider-Man
>Randy Robertson
>Jigsaw Jameson
>The Lizard
>Black Cat
>Miles Morales (because of ItSV synergy)
>Mary Jane Watson
>Ant-Man, Stinger, Griz, Machinesmith, Miss Thing
>The Sinister Six (Five)
>Spider-Man

Watch as the run culminates in Team Spider-man working together to push into the bowels of Hell itself while constantly double-crossing each other. They learn from interacting with Peter the true value and power of responsibility. As they fight their way to defeat Mephisto, he transforms into a Cerberus with his heads are Quesada, Slott and Bendis. After the big fight is over, Boomer asks Spider-man
>And what do we do now?
>Now, we are all ready, it's time to attend my wedding.

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Ok that was a good twist

Alyosha Kravinoff, suicide by way of his own clone son. Kind of like a warped, nonsensical Greek tragedy, innit?

Also, enough with constant Mary Jane memos—they're so annoying and repetitive.

>Villain takes credit for everything
How many times has Spencer done this?

the one here killed the other ones

Not enough.

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why is there spanish in the bottom?
is that a message from Ramos?
what does it say?

"As always it was a pleasure to work with you Nick, Kat, Mr.Spencer, Víctor y Edgar. Thank you"

>Dead by his clone's hand while wearing a knock-off black Spider-man costume
Certainly not the most dignified way to go.
Wonder who made the costumes. Arcade? Do you think he used the same sowing techniques as Felicia did for the original? Do you think he has a spare costume for himself?

What the fuck is that drawing?

thank you user

Thanks for the storytime!

Oh, hey, it's Panda-Mania.

>Scorpia with blinding bangs

Like it.

Hoping this gets recon. I really like Kraven.

IDGAF about Kraven but I would like to know about the fallout from all of this, like what will happen between Black Ant and Taskmaster, what will happen with the Connors, what Vulture will do next.
Is it wrong that I'm not invested in the main plot and just want SoL stuff with the extended cast?

>work

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Ramos drew Spider-Man's torso too wide and limbs too skinny. Normally Ramos isn't this bad but I guess he was in a rush because he had to draw this entire story arc.

great twist

>when the warp overtakes you just right

Shut the fuck up, pussy

Yep.

So wait this entire conflict was resolved because the Lizard snuck up on Kravenclone instead of roaring, which substantiated Peter's speech and therefore convinced Kraven to fucking stop?
I've heard of paragon interrupts but this is ridiculous.

>Conners' fucking face

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He was just really fucking happy

I didn't like it, the story took too long with so many unnecessary shit inserted in. I appreciate the set ups for future plot development but the arc as a whole felt like a waste of characters.

>the perpetually angry anonymous hate collective hated the end of an amazing character study on kraven
why am I not surprised

stay mad though, consummers that actually matter and have a face and voice (and support the actual goshdarned books) love it across the board

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What happened to "only the spider could kill him"?

Kraven's death doesn't matter when hes replaced by another Kraven

Technicality.

Is he going to get Pym Particles and become Godzilla for real?

Triggered on Yea Forums? Go back to sleep, Nick.

nobody gets a fuck about mary whore tbqh

Don't listen to this guy. Bring Steve Lieber here and then go to sleep.
We need someone to draw a sexy Beetle into all of the pages in this comic.

Wow are these guys are super whiney. Like everything Slott has done won't matter?

Curses don't tend to work on those kind of technicalities, even in weird stories like this.

Felicia is just best girl after all

name one thing Slott did that actually mattered and didn't just regress peter into a blabbering manchil. I'll wait.

you can't. thank god spencer managed to undo all the damage.

It's about interpretation

Spider-Man was the one to kill Kraven, not by beating him to death, but by changing his worldview, his fundamental beliefs.

He hasn't undone all of the damage. People still think Peter Parker is a teenager.
Spencer needs to rewrite the script for Far From Home so that Holland was actually Mysterio playing a long con this entire time and Gyllenhaal is the real Spider-man doing a counter-con to expose and defeat Holland.

SO dose Kraven just want Spider-man to pork him or something?

Superior Otto is still running around though.

>He hasn't undone all of the damage. People still think Peter Parker is a teenager.
The first arc was literally about Peter Parker putting a Spider-Man that acted like Slott's (Spencer's is nothing like that) in his place and teaching him the value of responsibility again.

Nice try though.

He's not Electro

>implying comics change public perception of a character
>in the third millennium of our lord

>People still think Peter Parker is a teenager.
>people who are talking about the movies
>I can’t understand that other people are talking about things I’m not invested in

Not an argument, just sounds like you want to hate on Spencer's run for no reason.

>movies
Cartoons too.
And it cascades down into the comics from there.

KINO

Why do you interpret that way? I never said nothing about Spencer being wrong. I just don't think he's doing enough.

>no matter what Spencer does it'll never be enough
Yep sounds like it.

Oh Vulture.

This was a good twist and glad to see Sergei get what he truly wanted in the end.

As long he doesn't turn Spidey as some secretly brainwashed fascist agent.

Wolf Spider

jesus fuck

Neat

I'm sure he'll get brought back eventually, but I thought it was a mistake to undo such a great send-off and am happy that Spencer gave him another good one.

Thanks, OP.

There's no need

In 3 more appearances they won't even need to mention new Kraven's backstory beyond he blames Spider-Man for the death of his father

Yeah but he has the suit and everything could see him paying a whore to dress as Spider-man to please him.

Spider-Verse. Superior Spider, Spider-Island. Plus the Superior Octopus suit. I could go on with this

And Peter has always been a manchild if you haven't noticed

Weak and forgettable compared to Kraven's Last Hunt, but that's what happens when you make a sequel with blatant callbacks.

I feel like it really should have been a lot shorter too, with all the main books and .5s it felt like this went on for way too long and still somehow didn't focus on the core cast.

>And Peter has always been a manchild if you haven't noticed
T. has only started reading post OMD

Kaine already killed him in Scarlet Spider, but he brought him back to life.

Kraven just wanted Spider-Man to be the one to do it permanently

F

So what ultimately happened here?

Kraven hires Arcade to make a super villain hunting ground
This includes Lizard jr who Cat tries to protect
Spidey and Curt go to rescue them
Blah blah blah prophecy

>So what ultimately happened here?
Kraven stared out a window for a bunch of issues then had a change of heart in two panels.

The End

Yes yes very good BUT WHAT WILL HPPEN TO THE OTP?

Wil Tasky and Ant sing karaoke together again?

Fuckin' F, man

>but this has dragged on for six issues.
More if you count the .5s. And despite all that I still feel like she and Billy had been underused.

Not happening faggot

Hasn't read civil war or the fucking clones saga.

cute squirrel girl reference

That's what you want to go with? Really?

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honestly, Ramos should have just fucking delayed this shit, this is embarrassing. This man shouldn't have cashed whatever check he was given for this.

>10 sons
Goddman, when Kraven sets out to plant his seed, he does not play around.

they're literal clones

Ramos fucking sucks.

I LOVED THIS. I need the trade.

It's stylish.

>Nice twist with the exception that Peter and Kraven have completely different body types.
>Why do you think they got Ramos on this?

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>but how is Felicia still standing?
She avoided many fight and her fight against Kraven's son didn't last very long. It' s not really something to ponder about.

What does Gwen have to do with this issue?

She got stabbed in the back pretty hard

Don’t forget the wacky part where he had all of his sons kill each other to prove whose strongest only to feel bad about it months later

That's a standard cape-comics wound.

Nothing involving Kraven will ever be as good as Kraven's Last Hunt, hopefully he stays dead this time.

That's probably the whole idea behind Junior here. Have your cake and eat it too, give Kraven his well deserved rest while Keeping his replacement who technically is Kraven too, and with a grudge on Spidey of course.

this arc was a let down despite the setting felt like it was jerking off Last hunt way too much
a bit too predictable

>and with a grudge on Spidey of course.
He can hardly blame it on Spidey, there.

Silly user, Spider-blaming ALWAYS finds a way.

Please don't bring Kraven back. Let the character have this ending.

Ramos disease

Yep. By making him question his role and realizing he was wrong his belief in being "the Hunter" was destroyed. Kraven the Hunter died, all that was left was Sergei Kravinoff and a man can be killed as easily as any other. It's a clever way to get around a status quo that blatantly told the reader "yeah it's never going to happen".

In a sense, it was more of Spencer fixing mistakes from the last decade. Granted this one was more Braintrust than Slott specifically but still, Kraven got a great ending in one of the GOAT Spidey stories. He absolutely did not need to come back and the fact nothing interesting was done with him after the fact proved as much. This was still a pretty good story but it was also correcting that mistake and meant to put Kraven back where he belongs: in the ground.

Spencer's run has been enjoyable so far, but this period of his run is clearly gonna go down in history as "the time Spencer spent fixing shit from years ago"

Wasn’t spencer responsible for the only good post resurrection kraven moment. The one where he lured the cosmic cube girl with a tea party?

I also don’t know why the brain trust even brought kraven back his daughter was a solid replacement

She's an Inhuman now

Ramos is not that ba-

Really? Is she a good guy or still planning on killing Pete?

I know kraven killed his wife and other kids, though whatever happened to calypso? I thought kraven had a permanent case of jungle fever

Grim Hunt was kinda good and this arc sort of spat on it.

Grim Hunt spat on Julia Carpenter, Madame Web and Mattie Franklin

She was working with the Inhumans because she didn't want to undergo terrigenesis like her maternal aunts and was hoping they had a cure, or a means to keep her from the roving peanut cloud of death. She helped them find a hidden Inhuman city in Africa.

She eventually stopped running from the terrigen cloud and let herself get cocooned, but we never saw her hatch or what powers she has.

Tbf it spat on Mattie far less than bendis did

Wait, Spencer posted?

Hopefully they just ignore that.

Going forward every Spider-Man writer is going to trash the previous writer's run.

ive always liked ramos due to zoomer bias but i have to admit this shit looks bad

Good swerve.

This event was underwhelming and him killing himself again was dumb.

How did this spit on Grim Hunt?

Kraven was pissed that he was revived at the end of that.

Skreeooonk?!! =)

>too predictable
I think this arc is meant as a kind of advertisement for the Spider-man mythos before Slott, Spencer wants to get in new readers into Spider-man and does so by referencing a lot of old material very explicitly, trying to motivate new readers to check synopsis or even read the old comics.
But the arc itself is obviously not for people who have literally read all of those comics already, because anyone who had could predict about 9 out of 10 of these plot reversals.

So Spencer is truly fixing Spider-Man?

No, Black Cat and Mary Jane haven't had a full frontal nude sex scene giving cunnilingus to Beetle yet while their breasts clatter together and nipples touch while Peter progressively penetrates all of them to BTFO the SJW's.
But with Ramos on art perhaps that's a relief.

So is it a good series or nah?

It gave us this page.

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What the fuck is happening on this panel?

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I love the Sinister Six.

Dreams.

If I had an LMD of Beetle I really don't see why I would ever leave the basement. She could go out and rob banks to provide for me, nurture me with her hobo kitchen soup, and then entertain me in various ways. And she'd never grow old!

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>nurture me with her hobo kitchen soup
Best waifu.

he fixed Felica at least

>I know just killed like 10 guards in cold blood but just let me go bro lmao

So, this was the closer to the Kraven Trilogy, Last Hunt, Grim Hunt and Hunted, gotta say man, I really liked this arc despite Ramos’ artwork

>bad guy in front of him
>know he's directly and indirectly responsible for countless deaths
>lets him go
Hey Peter, remember Uncle Ben?

He's working on it.

Yes.

spider-totem shit needs to go

petes really skinny, is he a super model for victorias secret?

No, I like it. It was later badly handled, but it worked really nice in the first Morlun run.

Eeeeeeh... slowly. He's done good by Felicia which does count for a lot but I think he also suffers from, and Ill concede this is probably editorial more than him, taking too long to tell a simple story. This arc did not need to be 6 issues plus 5 .5s. And I think spreading out all the material really hurt the story when seeing it all play out a lot tighter would have been better for pacing and impact. Like Vulture's revolt would have been awesome if it were a surprise.

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>And I think spreading out all the material really hurt the story when seeing it all play out a lot tighter would have been better for pacing and impact
Honestly, I think it's a matter of perspective. The wait between each issue was what was the main issue. Reading it all in one go make it for a quite streamlined story.

Also, this story is also clearly seeds for several coming plot-lines, which partly explain the length too.

Thing is it makes Peter the chosen one rather than an accident. The whole radioactivity is simply pointless. Spider totem just makes everything dumber because the spider god did it.

>Reading it all in one go make it for a quite streamlined story.
Not really. Reading it all at once actually makes it worse with how much looking out the window Kraven does. It becomes really obvious when and where people should be acting but they're just padding shit out for pages.

I think it just comes down too who reads issue to issue or binges the whole arc.

I think the story is just bloated.

Shhhh no logic, only short-sighted moralfaggotry now.

>all female Syndicate
God if Spencer does the right thing and presents them as a bunch of catty hypercompetitive fashion-obsessed uncooperative bitches who can get absolutely nothing done, cost Janice millions, and ultimately force her to turn good, betray them and turn them in, Spencer would become the unironic God of Red Pills and Basedness. And it wouldn't even be sexist because they're all villains so it's in character.
Too bad it won't happen.

>Peter the chosen one rather than an accident. The whole radioactivity is simply pointless.
The whole radioactivity IS what make it an accident. And that's the interesting aspect of it.

I liked when peter could talk to insects.

Seeing of Spencer make a point to re-explore the Spiderman mythos and most controversial runs too, there is a chance he'll dive into that.

Stop posting this shit Spencer

rip

>white rabbit survived all this
hehe

Spencer can't change the fucking movies, you underage dipshit. What exactly do you think a comic writer does?

>Grim Hunt was kinda good
No
>and this arc sort of spat on it
Good, Grim Hunt spat on KLH to begin with

Bendis could with his Ultimate Spider-Twink, why can't Spencer?

>People still think Peter Parker is a teenager.
Not the one reading the comics.
then I have some good news for you. the thing about movies is, actors who play the characters age. The Larger public will literally get to see Peter grow up and become an adult.

Not the user you quote, but that question make no sense.

Miles is a different character and Ultimate spidey is not 616 Spidey either. And what Bendis did didn't change in any way more the public perception of 616 Spider-man than Spencer is doing. If anything, Spence is literally doing a better with 616 spidey job than Bendis.

Your statment make no sense.

When did Yea Forums get this dumb?

Is Kraven right?

Kraven disagree.

>"Good luck with the dying!"

>Still doesn't understand that the films and comics are unrelated.
Why even post on Yea Forums with that attitude?

Do it, Spidey! Rip his fucking head off!

Wholesome page.

wew lad

>Spider-Kraven

Well, clone Kraven is fucking dead.

Oh shit. I didn't see that coming.

Technically the Spider's code killed him.

>Defends badly written post OMD/Slott Peter Parker
>Unironically attempts to back it up using two badly written stories as examples

Just keep him on a tight leash. You never know when he might come up with another Hydra Cap moment.

Hydra Cap was nice.
Cap Falcon was Meh.
Secret Empire was bad

what a boring and pointless event

Why does spider man look so shit now, he has some ridiculous fridge mode body, his torso is too long, and hes lost all his muscle mass. Not to mention the posing and color palette is sub par.

Kraven has female thighs, the fucker looks like he's wearing some Lulu lemon shit. fuck the artist

This art is pretty shit, it doesn't even look like Spider man and Kraven are on the same plane in the last panel, nor does Kraven look like he threw punch. Also there's the shit anatomy on Spider man

Pssst, isn't it obvious, user?
he's not from here, duh, he just came to shitpost about NOT MUH 90S REEEEE.

The more I read the worse the art gets, why is modern spiderman such a gangly freak. I mean shit he looks weaker than before he got his powers.

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Im just going to post good art of Spidey to offset this garbage

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Ramos

I don't get why they try to make spidey look so weak. He should much much stronger looking as fully grown adult.

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Ultimate Spider-man is the influence for Raimi-man and Spectacular Spider-man. Miles is the influence for Homecoming Spider-man.
It's disingenuous to imply Bendis hasn't had a massive impact on Spider-man in other media.

This arc did not feel cohesive, it was all over the place.
>Felica story
>kraven in savage land story
>kraven and spidey story
>vulture uprising
>arcade shows up with whoever
>a bunch of fat rich people do shit
The jumping through all these story threads ruined the pacing. Maybe it feels less disjointed when reading the trade, but i really did not like it.

>Miles is the influence for Homecoming Spider-man.
Not really. The only influence is Ned.

Its still a very stupid and disingenuous question, as Spencer has just started and has to make up for a terrible preceding run.

>has younger maternal figure
>gets teamed with the Avengers extremely early
>suit funded by Iron Man
>completely edgeless, unlike actual teen Peter Parker
Homecoming Peter is Miles Morales if he was white.

>>has younger maternal figure
Miles actually has a mom (and actually has tow parents) you are grasping at straws, there.
>>gets teamed with the Avengers extremely early
>>suit funded by Iron Man
That's the MCU's influence, not Bendis And the Iron-ma, spiderman suit come striaght from 616 before cilvil war
>>completely edgeless, unlike actual teen Peter Parker
He is actually quite close to 616 early spider-man

Bendis has shit on Homecoming spidey.

the relationship between spidey man and Tony is directly inspired by 616 before Civil War.

>Miles actually has a mom (and actually has tow parents) you are grasping at straws, there.
It's not grasping at straws at all. Aunt May being old as fuck was critical for 616 Peter. Her being a young parent is a Miles influence.
>That's the MCU's influence, not Bendis And the Iron-ma, spiderman suit come striaght from 616 before cilvil war
Where the hell do you think Miles got his suit originally?
>He is actually quite close to 616 early spider-man
No he fucking isn't? What are you, gay? You clearly have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Get out of my face.

No, it isn't. Tony wasn't literally supervising 616 Peter. He wasn't his first contact with superheroes. He didn't take all of Peter's agency. Peter was a completely self-made established super-hero.
>muh Hollandpeter stops some street crime before he meets Tony
Peter had fought Doctor Doom before he met Tony Stark!

>ony wasn't literally supervising 616 Peter. He wasn't his first contact with superheroes. He didn't take all of Peter's agency. Peter was a completely self-made established super-hero.
Neither was MCU spidey, nor Ultimate Spidey, you are not making a point.

and the Iron-spidersuit come straight from 616 pre-civil war. You are not making a point.

The whole thing is stupid anyway. Complaining spencer hasn't ovewhellmed the media was never a valid complain int he first place.

>It's not grasping at straws at all. Aunt May being old as fuck was critical for 616 Peter. Her being a young parent is a Miles influence.
There is nothing critical in that.
>Where the hell do you think Miles got his suit originally?
Got it himself. And the homecoming iron-sut isn't the iron-miles spider suit either, it(s striaght from 616 pre-Civil war.

>No he fucking isn't? What are you, gay? You clearly have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Get out of my face.
I seems to have abtter grasp on suits at least.

Also, like I already said, The whole thing is stupid anyway. Complaining spencer hasn't ovewhellmed the media was never a valid complain int he first place.

Forget it. Not even Slott liked the fact Kraven was brought back, and if the best they could do with lump in Squirrel Girl, it shows they had no real direction for him. The last ten years was a waste. Spencer is undoing every shitty post-OMD decision and I love it

Panda-Mania's first words.

I didn't know this was an Evangelion comic.

>So is Slott truly fixing Spider-Man?

said at the beginning of his Big Time run.

>said no one ever
ftfy
Slott was hated almost immediately.

yeah people didn't want to have his babies with spider-island or anything

Not that much, people were still butthurt about OMD and there was a strong dislike of Carlie.

>it never happened!
>well... not that much...
erry single taim

Everyone wanting Slott's babies ? No, it never happened. Like I just said, curb your enthusiasm.

wew lad

>it never happened
>it happened, just not that much
>no it never happened

so the event is almost over and spider-man did almost nothing aside from getting beaten up by kraven son.
he didn´t have to fight of an unslaught of his villains nor save these villians from the robot hunters
how can you spend so many issues without doing anything?

bad re-hash of a good story.
I'm glad he's dead again.

>it never happened everyone wanted slott's babies
>it never happened everyone wanted slott's babies
>it never happened everyone wanted slott's babies
ftfy

you are really good at reading, are you ?

I might add ahtt at this point, most said OMD had truly ruined Spidey and no matter what slott would do, it would never make it up for it (which turned out to be true).

BASED team poster

Spider-Island was the arc that broke up Peter and Carlie and hinted that he and MJ were going to reconcile.

No, there were people on Yea Forums who thought Slott was going to fix Spider-Man. Could be actual posters, maybe some could've been shills.

But at the same time there were people on Yea Forums who believed that Slott would be terrible right from the start of his run. Something Awful's comics board had a lot of posters that were down on Slott. Scans Daily had posters who hated everything BND was doing, which fits in with what said. And posters from both places did post on Yea Forums at the time, maybe still do.

Thanks for the storytime but I still prefer Kravens Last Hunt by DeMatteis and Zeck over this

The irony is he didn't even do that by the end. I don't know who should be blamed there.

Literally just Slott. Spencer mentioned that he thought he was going to have a fight on his hands with editorial to get Peter and MJ back together, and then it turned out that they didn't care, they just don't want them married.

Even Nick Spencer does.

"This is the story we’ve been building to all year long, and for me, it’s the story I’ve been dying to tell since the minute I got the book. But now I have a special favor to ask of you— tonight, before you read our new issue, sit down and read (hopefully re-read) what I think is the greatest Spidey story of all time, KRAVEN’S LAST HUNT. Everything we’re attempting to do here is a love song to that story, and I really do think having it fresh in your mind will add something to the reading experience. We can’t hope to match it, but there a lot of Easter eggs, callbacks, and homages in the pages we hope you’ll enjoy! So there you go, now you have an excuse to re-visit a true classic. Then tomorrow, the next chapter in Kraven’s saga begins!"

Seems like poor advice, Nick. I would've recommended people to re-read (or read for the first time) Last Hunt after reading Hunted. Just to make sure you save the best for last.

>Could be actual posters, maybe some could've been shills.
user, it's not always the mouse, messiah complex is a rather real thing with capeshit. the new writer is always going to be the talk of town if they drump up enough hub-a-hub around them.

I see a bunch of muties thinking hickman is going to literally make the x-men the same 90s sensation they were overnight "bc hickman". same happened with slott because even if omd was a turd he had some good stuff in BND, mostly because swapping in and out every week allowed him to take his time and many times the other writers were saddled with worse stories to tell, to boot.

spencer's just going through the same cycle where some mild corrections are treated like absolute breakthrough achievements and the greatest run in forever when they're really just some warmed over rethreads of stories past (hunted is the best example of this). people'd have you believe his run is all of the black cat rooftop scene (that arc itself was already not very interesting and the only real good thing it did was fix her "for good"), which is far from true.

>which is far from true.
How so ?

>spencer's just going through the same cycle
That's where I disagree. Slott couldn't write Spiderman. I'll give him he could do interesting stories, but Spiderman was not the character to use for it. From the very start.

Spencer one the other hand is not only nailing him, but most of the Spider-cast too.