>literally the most powerful foe of the X-Men
>is treated as a second-rate villain and a loser regardless
What are some examples of extremely powerful characters that are treated like shit?
Literally the most powerful foe of the X-Men
Kayden Richardson
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Easton Walker
As a fan of Juggernaut... it's totally his fault, Cain isn't a great villain, his motivation is bland and he isn't so ambitious.
Imagine someone like Doom or Kingpin with the Juggernaut power.
Andrew Russell
it's because he is a moron, that has no big plans and mostly plays lackey to black tom or someone else
Oliver Brown
*ahem*
FUCK MUTIES
Jack Price
Remember when Spidey tricked him into walking into wet cement and then just watched him fucking sink and he didn't escape? He fucked with the wrong guy that day
Jeremiah Allen
Cameron Green
Btw, in this fight Juggernaut was kicking his ass, I'm really tired of seeing people defeating Juggernaut via BFR
Nathan Jones
The truth is that Spider-Man didn't trick him, you should read it again... it was a coincidence, the wet cement saved Spider-Man.
Levi Ramirez
i know. juggy actualy has 1 or 2 more wins over hulk, then hulk has over juggy.
hell proffesor hulk got his ass kicked hard by juggernaut not even using his armor.
savage hulk and joe fixit have beaten him a few times.
Ayden White
why couldn't Juggernaut break the cement again? I remember even Black Tom Cassidy was surprised.
That's probably one of the best Spider-Man stories ever btw
Ryder Edwards
Mostly because he was given the worst code name possible
Juan Howard
It was fresh and really deep cement for being next to the pier... it took him like 3 months to get out of there, although he broke the New York tectonic plates in the process.
Jacob Fisher
MUTIES GET THE SHOOTIES
Jordan Martinez
juggy used to give thor a hard time, as mjolnir would just bounce off his force field
Austin Stewart
>literally superman + psychic powers + intangibility + shape-shifting + healing factor
>never does anything at all
Anthony Butler
Does juggernaught need some momentum to break/go through stuff? If he is stuck still will he just stay still?
Noah Clark
he's not allowed to upstage wonder woman or superman.
also he's afraid of fire and addicted to oreo's
Jacob Hall
Nah... he's 100+ class even without momentum, but sometimes Cyttorak gets angry and Cain ends up being weaker than the Wrecking Crew.
Nolan Wilson
it kinds depends on the writer. sometimes he needs to be actually moving/have momentum and other times he's like hulk and can just break free with strenght alone.
Mason Brooks
>juggz is a moron
t. loser
Michael Reyes
He once broke through a steel cocoon after just "moments"
Colton Lewis
All powerful X-Men villains that aren't Magneto eventually get treated like this, usually to build up a newer villain. Apocalypse, Stryfe, Exodus, Holocaust, and more. Juggernaut just gets it worse because he's just a very powerful criminal, his stories can have much lower stakes, and writers can treat him as a Bebop & Rocksteady-tier moron.
Gabriel Adams
Psst...hey guys...I heard around town that Captain America is a mutie!
Alexander Kelly
>has no big plans and mostly plays lackey to black tom or someone else
Wouldn't he be better if he was used as kind of a working class villain, like Captain Cold and the Rogues over in DC? Not dumb and not somebody's bitch, just a guy who wants to steal ALL the money, buy an island someplace and live large?
Brandon Sanchez
Wrecking Crew went from Thor Villains that would fuck up any other non top-tier hero to the mook squad that get their asses handed to them by nearly anyone. Kamala kicked their asses while they were trying to run.
Jason Foster
This would be best for him, but Marvel never seems to treat blue-collar supervillains that just want money very well. Instead they all seem to end up losing to kids like this
Isaiah Anderson
>What are some examples of extremely powerful characters that are treated like shit?
Only the posterboy for "powerful but too fucking dumb.
Henry Martinez
Black Bolt
If they don't forget all his abilities they are nerfing them, if they aren't nerfing them they are ignoring them. He has been captured and beat up so many times in the last couple years it's silly. Cates being the worst example in recent years.
Gavin Wilson
god, if he teamed up with Magneto, they could have absolute control over a fundamental force of the universe.
Colton Campbell
Everyone after the mid 80s totally forgot he has energy manipulation powers and can do shit like turn oxygen into oranges if he wants, and reduced him to another sonic scream guy.
Jose Watson
>>literally the most powerful foe of the X-Men
Landon Russell
God damn these daily juggernaut threads are getting fucking annoying af
Joseph Scott
Wasn't he also supposed to have Hulk-level strength?
Chase Jenkins
To be fair, is getting rich that bad of a motivation?
Anthony Garcia
Doesn't mags already have electricity? I remember him bending light and opening wormholes.
Sebastian Nguyen
Not Quite Hulk's level, more like Thing's level of strength and durability.
Xavier Bailey
Matter Manipulation must have been Jack Kirby's favorite power. Between 73-75 he had Black Bolt and the mandarin use it a bunch times in Amazing adventures and gave all the Eternals the ability to use it.
Jose Brown
Sorry but I'll always read Juggernaut's dialog as his parody versions.
Look at this shit. Mah helmet!
Eli Edwards
Did his power originally come from the helmet or something?
Connor Green
Wonder Man is based.
Brayden Martinez
I read him with the intelligible voice they gave him in the Marvel vs Capcom games.
Mason Smith
Why doesnt Thor do this shit nowadays?
Austin Ross
Can any other X-Men villain shatter dimensions with their own bare hands?
Nolan Hill
always and forever
Camden Torres
You should know better than to believe Latverian disinformation, user.
Adrian Thomas
Absorbing Man
John Ortiz
Base level, he's around the class 50 range, but he can amp himself up with his energy powers to ridiculous levels.
Jace Brown
Superboy prime?
Christian Harris
Ryder Hernandez
No, his powers come from the Gem of Cyttorak within him. The helmet just protects him from psychic attacks and regular crap like bricks.
Then writers and editors would have to remember his skillset, and that's too hard.
Jacob Scott
>Can any other X-Men villain shatter dimensions with their own bare hands?
Doesn't matter. Cain can't because he's literally too dumb to.
Jacob Long
You think he's worffed as a villain, remember when he joins the X-Men and suddenly is so much less powerful.
Xavier Adams
>remember when he joins the X-Men and suddenly is so much less powerful.
That's somewhat justified by the nature of his relationship Cyttorak. Cyttorak just wants shit destroyed so when Cain plays the hero he gets less power
Liam Collins
Is this the one where Juggernaut was pretending to be Hulk’s dad?
Alexander Mitchell
>Not Quite Hulk's level, more like Thing's level of strength and durability.
Dead fucking wrong. Juggs is currently up some wins on hulk and thing can barely compare to Jennifer.
Dylan Murphy
Jack Kirby just wanted to make infinite resources
Anthony Green
That's nice but we are talking about Black Bolt
Brayden Green
OH ITS THE JUGGERNAUT BITCH
Blake Parker
They're talking about Black Bolt illiterate nigger
Josiah Miller
Nah, that was in the 90s.
Blake Roberts
According to this, Black Bolt's strength is a close second to Hulk's
Henry Cox
He still gets owned tho
Mason Gomez
Dylan Perez
The OP said extremely powerful, not 90's Extreme.
Logan Brooks
I think that's kind of the point. Electro is supposed to be a representation of what Peter could have become had he wasted his gift. Also really funny seeing Mangeto talking shit on Max.
Semi related, but is Max still dead? Last time I checked some chick stole his gimmick thus becoming a Livewire knockoff
Elijah Ward
>literally the most powerful foe of the X-Men
He absolutely isn't.
Juggernaut is quite possibly the most overrated (in terms of strength) character in all of comics.
Tyler Lewis
I always feel so alone being a fan of Wonderman. Seriously if there is any one character in Marvel i would just like to hang out with it is him
Grayson Morris
Anyone can fight the Hulk in Marvel. Literally anyone, including Spider Man, Captain America, and the Punisher. It long ceased to be relevant.
Asher Green
In this issue he was defeated by Professor X
No, this one is their first fight.
David Morales
Even though he can't be stopped, he can easily be "redirected". Colossus has knocked him down many times on that technicality.
Jaxson Bell
Because writers are hacks that will reduce Thor to a stupid brute that relies on a hammer and inability to summon lightning without it.
Eli Peterson
They basically confirmed in New Excalibur (I think) that he was the most powerful foe of the X-Men, that was the real reason Onslaught attacked him first.
Ian Allen
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Gladiator is way more powerful than Jobbernaut.
Xavier James
Ewing needs to take over Thor after Aaron fucks off. He would remember that Thor is a god and has access to magic.
Dominic Gray
Not with how he treated Thor in his Hulk.
Xavier Gonzalez
And somehow jobs even more
Connor Cooper
He is keeping continuity straight. In Loki Agent of Asgard Thor was still Aaron Thor style but treated much better
Tyler Reyes
Levi Jenkins
Gladiator is one of the biggest jobbers of the X-Men universe. He's actually a good example of a powerful character that is usually treated like shit by the writers
Cameron Russell
>Gladiator is way more powerful than Juggenaut.
Oh nononono >The Chad Avatar of Cyttorak
>The Virgin Majestor of the Shit'ar
Elijah Kelly
I love Cannonball and he is really fucking powerful. But unless Gladiator just got right back up this is bullshit
Leo James
Yep, still dead.
Blake Evans
This fucker controls one of the four principle forces of reality but he's still a 3rd rate Magento at best
Cooper Morgan
Graviton once defeated the entired Marvel Earth and yet jobbed against the Thunderbolts.
Owen Evans
and Nefaria was beat up by Carol and Wolverine once
Dylan Rivera
Juggermaut is a perennial secondary character. He's only ever good as a foil. So he'll never be a good villain, just as a plot device.
Grayson Peterson
To be fair, gravity is the second weakest of the fundemental forces
Strong Nuclear force > electro-magnatism > gravity > weak nuclear force
Jack Gonzalez
At least EMH gave Graviton some love
Asher Wilson
Cannonball is invulnerable when he's blastin'. Gladiator is only strong as he thinks he is. Cannonball tanked Gladiator's best shot and broke his confidence. Gladiator does get up right after but he doesn't continue the fight because he's not actually there to fight.
Luke Russell
The current writers on X-Men are trash and possibly hate the X-Men. I hope Hickman fixes that.
Justin Peterson
Doctor Strange was barely ever relevant before based MCU gave him the spotlight. So much for being the "Sorcerer Supreme"
Brody Robinson
He's legit batshit insane, though. Most jobbers also don't get onscreen kills.
Joshua Nelson
I still feel bad for Charcoal... he was really an interesting character, I wonder what stop Disney/Marvel to paying the creator some money to use the character, he was a better black character than most new characters.
Michael Bailey
>Doctor Strange was barely ever relevant before based MCU
Not true
Josiah Reyes
There isn't a clear owner of the character. He was created out of a Wizard magazine contest, bu the terms of the contest never clarified if the creator, Wizard, or Marvel had ownership.
Adam Adams
Pretty sure ol'Cain is not a mutant at all
Jacob Robinson
Excuse me sir, did someone mention extrememly powerful character who get treated like shit? Because i believe i heard extremely powerful character who gets treated like shit
Daniel Walker
Tom King is such a hack I don't even consider it canon. Fucking catwank
Blake Smith
For a guy who has literally the speed of light and can turn back time Flash does have some of the most retarded defeat
Brandon Rogers
Yes, I also love that story when the X-Men and the Brotherhood teamed up to fight Superboy Prime
Brandon Green
I loved how they telegraphed that SBP was going to rip off Anole's other arm then BAM! Karma gets double amputee'd.
Robert Evans
1. Gladiator isn't a villain
2. Juggernaut was never knocked out by Sue Storm
Jack Roberts
>extremely powerful characters that are treated like shit?
This shitter right here
Zachary Collins
Sue Storm is capable of killing Celestials. Sue Storm is easily the most powerful member of the Fantastic Four. There is not shame about being knocked out by Sue Storm. Its still better than being tricked into walking into cement and then being trapped in concrete like Juggernaut did. Like Juggernaut literally trapped and couldn't break the concrete and jump out of it.
Jonathan Howard
This.
Remember that time when fucking Doctor Octopus made the Hulk look like a little bitch?
Leo Turner
>Class 50 brick
>Can't fly
>Weapon is not magic
>No extra magic type abilities
Why did they make him so underwhelming for a god anyway?
Angel Peterson
He upgraded to adamantium then and next time they fought Hulk said he caught him off guard
Luis Diaz
I think the title of most powerful belongs to her son plus she got her ass kicked against Electro.
Robert Allen
Electro is a legit powerhouse despite being an idiot.
Brandon Phillips
Call him ion man
Angel Gray
He's not really Superman in terms of physicals.
Daniel Kelly
To be fair, this was War Hulk. If it wasn't for the celestial tech Juggernaut would have continued overpowering him.
Alexander Miller
>beheading juggernaut
>stopping the juggernaut
HAW!
Ian Cooper
He BIG dumb
Julian Gonzalez
>decades ago
>be a lad watching X-Men
>first time seeing the Juggernaut
>the military comes at him with tanks
>Juggs says, "HURR HURR, sticks and stones may break my bones but ranks can never hurt me!"
>never heard that saying before, so I thought he wasn't joking
>so for a while I used to think Juggs' weakness was getting hit with sticks and stones
Camden Brooks
Cant have him do crazy shit anymore. The last I remember was when Remender had him open a portal to the sun and shove one of the apocalypse twins into it head first.
Camden Martinez
Gavin Walker
>implying that the authors know any notions of physics aside from Bill nye and actually use them in their character creation
Leo Cox
Bet you thought the X-men were called that after X-avier too
Xavier Lee
no they made it pretty explicit it was because they had an x-tra factor that made them x-ceptional
I read it in an x-men guide in the years before wikis
Hudson Perez
You're not alone there, friend
Logan Lewis
I thought it stood for eXtraordinary