Who was in the wrong here?
Who was in the wrong here?
Mason Lopez
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Liam Robinson
Batman
Elijah Hernandez
Despite the memes. Batman is usually wrong.
Ian Stewart
>stops Frank from pulling the trigger
Okay, whatever, just occupy Frank for a brief moment while knocking out Joker so he can't slink out and cause more mayhem while you two are discussing criminal justice before the cops arrive.
>tells Joker to run
>essentially gives Joker the opportunity to kill the next luckless fuck he sees during his escape
Yeah nah, fuck you, Batman. You were 100% in the wrong.
Josiah Roberts
This.
Charles Gomez
Even in the Marvel universe the Punisher is shown as wrong. Batman understands that a vigilante can't be judge, jury, and executioner.
Lucas Garcia
Has the Punisher ever been glorified in a comic, or has he always been a tragic anti-hero?
Dominic Cruz
On a small scale Frank seems like a bad guy but he's really putting in the work on a large scale taking down so many crooks and criminal organizations.
On a case by case basis Batman is a great hero but if you look at his track record as a whole he's definitely gotten hundreds if not thousands of people second hand killed by letting irredeemable killing machines like Joker and Poison Ivy run around Gotham.
In the crossover frank is definitely in the right though.
Benjamin Barnes
Frank. He is an asshole.
Kayden Torres
I know Superman has expressed disdain for Joker, but why hasn’t Wonder Woman ever told Batman to cut the crap or killed Joker herself?
Isaac Sanchez
Batman is wrong. Imagine how much safer Gotham would be if they just killed all the criminals instead of chasing them down after escaping from Arkham every week.
Jaxson Phillips
Batman. We saw a perfect example of how well Gotham could look if he wasn't such a headcase but he never learned.
Even when his Thomas Wayne directly told him to his face to stop being Batman and be a father to Damien he still didn't stop. He deserves everything bad that happens to him.
Eli Hill
Because Diana understands Bruce's damage.
Benjamin Stewart
The writer. Batman would protect the Joker's life, not let him run free.
Henry Powell
Diana recognizes how important Bruce's ideals are to him, that Joker needs to be stopped by the system. If Gotham just lets Batman deal with criminals and kill them himself, what happens when he's gone and the underworld rises back up for vengeance on Gotham?
Aaron Lee
Batman is the epitome of the white knight gigacuck.
John Rodriguez
So kill everyone right? All the super villains, all the mobsters, the gangs, jaywalkers, underage drinkers, drug addicts, hookers, people downloading copy-written material, & people who don't curb their dogs? Oh yeah...do we kill the dogs too?
Noah Johnson
>muh slippery slope
Have Batman just kill the people he usually horribly maims; there, easy.
Charles Cooper
>be Batman
>be an UberChad Supergenius with a cock too big to fit
>so rich his family is one of the oldest in America
>have friends and family
>whine about "muh tragic life"
>do nothing but beat up muggers
>don't even kill psyhos that murder kids after raping their dogs all the while bombing the city centre
>literally do nothing else with your billion dollar corporation that is never specified on what it does
>have a few panels where you donate money to some nig's welfare
Batman is unironically one of the worst heroes out there. If he's that determined to die a lonely man, if he doesn't care about himself at such a level, then why not cleanse the whole damn city and carry his sins? Batman's a coward manchild and nothing more.
Luis Anderson
>Batman understands that a vigilante can't be judge, jury, and executioner.
I feel like an exception could be made for the fucking Joker
Eli Martinez
>All the people I've murdered by letting you live.......
It's a shame that Batman's only moment of self-awareness came in an alternate one-off story arc
Cooper Baker
We need an arc to just end this retardation once and for all. Batman kills the Joker and corrupt fucks at the state level see an opportunity to label Batman a killer, sweeping into Gotham with big federal agencies to usurp authority from the GCPD and drive the town into anarchy as a giant manhunt for Batman ignores the huge wave of crime caused by Batman's inability to operate with impunity.
As these corrupt agents cause more and more civilians to die as casualties in an unnecessary crime spree Batman grapples with whether he really can stop with the Joker, or if now he'll have to continue killing to remove this new obstacle and protect Gotham. Resurrect Joker years later if writers REALLY want, but make a point even dumb comic readers can get: it won't stop at just one, it can't.
John Gonzalez
>it won't stop at just one, it can't.
That's bullshit though. Stark kills the enemies that deserve it all the time. Yet he's not the Punisher yet. Wayne's just a psycho.
Alexander Peterson
Levi Thompson
Stark goes full fascist dictator on a weekly fucking basis for the last 20 years.
Nicholas Perry
Yeah, but he doesn't go around butchering people with cleavers like Batman's afraid he would. He just puts them in Concentration Camps. That's the Chad's Way of being a Control Freak!
Austin Miller
arent there 3 jokers? why dont they let batman kill at least 1
Josiah Sanders
Batman. Didn't even subdue Joker and just had him run away to fuck someone else over while dealing with Punisher
Besides even though Punisher is usually viewed as wrong, the justice system in DC is fucking garbage. Its not like Joker is some superhuman and they lack the means to kill him. He's just some wacko. After the guy who killed literally thousands of people by this point breaks out for the hundredth time, SOMEONE is finally going to get fed up with their shit and put a bullet in the fucker's head.
Justin Cox
Agreed!
Jordan Carter
Carson Watson
Why do you think Batman Beyond existed and DC has done everything to avoid such a future by making Bats be in the right side of history instead of the old, miserable wreck he has to be?
He said kill Jim, not rape. Stand down.
Jose Parker
The irony of Batman Beyond was that most of the classic Gotham villains pretty much just went away on their own, making Batman's efforts to combat them futile
Kevin Smith
Exactly. Unlike the other superheroes, Batman's efforts need to be futile or else his character wouldn't make sense the way he's set-up to be. Unless we go back to Bat-Adam West and restore that kind of wacky Gotham back.