They're all pretty overpowered

Realistically, martian manhunter could beat superman right?

most of them have a villain who could beat them on a good day, a few of them have villains who can easily fight the entire team, and when their villains team up you've got one of those big third movie in the series level threats. I think they collectively have a wide enough rogues gallery to not get to OP.

Joker's new design is cool, user!

They’re kind of supposed to be. There wouldn’t be any logic behind them being the first 7 members to form a super-team if they weren’t the strongest 7 out there. Luckily the fighting isn’t really what makes them interesting.

>all

AND?

So are their opponents

What about Martian Manhunter?

He'd just heat vision that fire phobic pussy.

Why would the strongest people form a team? Wouldn't it make more sense for weak people to group together?

Is Cyborg, though?

Flash is stronger than all of them. His gimmick is I can run faster than anything as long as I have enough goes fast and guess what he has tons of that.

"Overpowered" is a term used for something that's supposed to have some internal balance, like a video game. Comics are not a video game, there's not supposed to be balance, therefor no comic character is overpowered.

Batman should be a useless bitch but isn't due to fucking massive plot armor and batwank

Only self-hating humans believe this. It's specially funny because every character in the Justice League, no matter their powers, have human rogue that gives them trouble.

He should be but writers never take advantage of his full potential.

Cyborg should be the ultimate information broker in the DC universe since his powerset allows him to access any computer on Earth and he can manipulate technology(even alien ones)at will if its nearby.

Despite all this potential DC won't bother to give him a proper rogue gallery or supporting cast(JLO is a step in the right direction).

>No Martian Manhunter as a founder
>No Hawkman or Hawkgirl as a founder
This image will always trigger me. You need Martian and you need a Hawk on your founding JL team.

They usually have some retardedly powerful weapon like a freeze gun. Even then, most of the characters up there having any trouble with normal humans is pis or due to some moral crisis akin to Spidey pulling his punches so he doesn't easily kill his entire rogues gallery.

Bamham not being reduced to paste by the first super strong ayy he fights is just wanking.

>can run around the world dozens of times before you can blink
>loses to some nigga with a freeze ray
DC characters are so fucking dumb it’s not even funny

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>freeze ray
You dumb fuck

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>Posting sand niggers
How do you expect me to take you seriously?

It's a shill that's paid by that camel fucker to shill that fucking loser across Yea Forums.
There's 99.9% chance that they don't even fucking know what's going on in the thread.
They're just looking for a reason to post that niggers picture or bring it up.

You can always tell who doesn't read the comics.

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Fate is more powerful than all of them.

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>X-Men exists
>Rogue alone laughs at all of them.

That's why they're the Justice League.

He DID.

The Ring has limits, user.

Downside: if he runs too fast he breaks reality. Also, how would he beat a brick like Superman that way?

What can Fate even do?

>A group of mid-level powered, professional, seasoned supervillains who are capable of working as a team

If these guys had ambitions beyond getting rich, the world would be fucked, Mark Waid style.

>breaking reality
>downside

>how would he beat superman
I dunno, he'd have to be able to do something like, say, break reality in order to do that.

...Imagine Doctor Strange on steroids. This guy is not quite God, but you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

TELL EVERYONE

>>Runs ultra-fast
>Breaks reality
>Superman never existed
>Only now, it turns out he was Thawne all along

"You were me, Barry!"

Couldn't Strange beat Galactus?

I didnt know the Thing could beat super-man

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I think he could.

That's not the Thing, he's orange. This is Badrock, apparently possessed by a Daemonite.

So shouldn't Fate be weaker than Strange? Just asking.

>So shouldn't Fate be weaker than Strange? Just asking.
"Dr Strange is a man borrowing powers from a god, while Dr Fate is a god borrowing bodies from a man."

Any crazy Lords of Order shenanigans in DC? I'm more familiar with Strange (Even though I barely read most of his stuff).

Currently in Justice League Dark, he is genociding magic users with his gang

>shouldn't Fate be weaker than Strange?

God no.

DC is more OP than Marvel by tradition.
Dr.Strange is more Zatanna level. Dr.Fate is, well, like I said, almost a god.

In the group's dynamic, the only one who is really OP is Batman.
And this is stupid af.

Nabu IS a god

DC Magic>Marvel Magic in terms of raw power

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>Why would the strongest people form a team?
Alien invasion

I don't know bro, Rebirth Wonder Woman nearly bled to death from a bullet fragment. She went from top tier to just a street leveler. Every other JL member has something obscene that they can do.
The Flash=Time Travel
Green Lantern=Anything basically.
Aquaman=Low mental powers, bullet proof, magic ocean controlling Trident.
Cyborg=Whatever you can think of
Batman=Plot Armor+can figure out anything
Superman=Nuff Said
Wonder Woman=um...she looks pretty and dies to tiny bullets. She's now the weakest link. Which kinda sucks but oh well comics!

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>superheroes
>overpowered

???

Niggaseconds > Batsales

Isn't Wonder Woman really fast?
She catches up to guys like the Flash and Cheetah.

Power levels are the cancer killing fiction as a whole. Nobody actually cares about the characters themselves, only how big their number is.

Priest couldn't be arsed to read a few issues of Jessica's book to discover that she is not an inner city hoochie who says "ese". You really think this dumb motherfucker knows that Diana has super speed? Fuck no, because research is haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard. Fuck comic book writers. Lazy bastards.

Yeah, I agree. Wonder Woman is really cool but so many people don't "get" her. They all stick to Waid's interpretation in Kingdom Come.

What I don't get is why that shit keeps happening. Do these idiots actually LIKE the idea of her being a violent ultrabitch? You'd think that if they perceive her as being an asshole, they'd try to downplay her supposed negative traits, but instead they keep doubling down for some reason. It doesn't make any fucking sense!

In one issue she knicked an artery which is why she nearly bleeds out from a wound and needed surgery or something. In some other appearance within 2 months of nearly bleeding out. She gets shot through the back, then gets shot through the shoulder and is just fine two panels later by healing real quick or some nonsense within the same combat scene.

I don't have a problem really with her weakness being sharp stuff, but I think there needs to be limit set on it or something that she a warrior amazon doesn't pass out from the pain. I know everthing restarted for Rebirth but Wonder Woman is nerfed as hell. She doesn't even seem super fast anymore.

Every one of the other major main JL members are kiling gods, inhales fire, lifting planets, and she's having trouble with no name henchmen hiding in bushes. I'm almost wanting New 52 "at least I can take a punch & have super speed" Wonder Woman back.

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>Do these idiots actually LIKE the idea of her being a violent ultrabitch?
Most people like evil Superman and God Batman so it really isn't surprising.

I would have liked it if they explained that Wonder Womans power just dwindled because of some issues with the Gods or whatever Wonder Woman draws her powers from nowadays. It's so easy to explain that.

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Have you noticed that one of them is just a ninja with access to satellites?

That version of the JL is weaker than their Post Crisis versions.

Doesn’t Cyborg have hypertime powers now?

Not without going crazy and turning into the burning martian.

Or Timms version of just being a prize for dem boyz. Hence King writing her like she’s Poison Ivy

Grant Morrison tried but even he couldn’t resist the “she’s actually a fascist” angle

>wonder woman preaching about fidelity

Talk about hypocrisy seeing as she nearly cheated on him with Batman twice now. Maybe people are right to depict her as a colossal bitch

Sometimes you just want to hang with your bros and talk shop.
Plus the JL was designed for universal / planet wide tier threats

>the “she’s actually a fascist” angle
whenst?

That’s literally the entire plot of his vol2

>Or Timms version of just being a prize for dem boyz.
That's still on Waid. I wish writers would write her how she was in the DCAU. She was playful and mommy tier in JL/JLU. She'd also trade bantz with Batman. So that was fun. Russell's Wonder Twins give me vibes of DCAU Wondy.

And that's why I hate dc

No Timms version was as shitty as the rest of the dcau, Paul Dini Wonder Woman thought....

Batman is stronger than all of them. His gimmick is my parents are dead as long as he has enough my parents are dead and guess what he has 2 of that.

Only because you don't realize they fight high end cosmic shit.

Nice Snowflame fanart

"You were me all along!"

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Half of them could revolutionize the world if they just sold their inventions instead of robbing banks with dumb costumes on

Wonder Woman is supposed to be jack of all trades type with high-medium stats all around like Spiderman but more importantly she's supposed to be written well and not have a personality of an ultra violent murderous stereotypical dyke

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yeah, so what? thats the point, theyre gods on earth who face serious threats.

t. DC fan.

>ultra violent murderous stereotypical dyke
Isn't that what happened in All-Star Batman and Robin?

It happened in all of Frank Miller's books, but she always get moist and ready to open her legs whenever Superman manhandle her.

>but she always get moist and ready to open her legs whenever Superman manhandle her.
But why though?

>he likes """"""""""flawed"""""""""" marvel """""superheroes""""" that supposedly exist in the real world

if youre gonna write superhero fiction, make it fucking fictional and crazy, none of this >muh iron man is an alcohol and is destroying his family :( bullshit

because people are retarded and dont understand that superman is for lois and wonder woman is for steve trevor. i hated new 52 Superman and WW for going out together.

Because Superfags have given him hell for writing Batman kicking Superman's ass back in DKR, and he wanted desperately to make Superman "cool" for them as an excuse.

Wonder Woman is for Batman, actually, but you half-right.

>batman defeated superman in the dark knight returns!
yeah after a fucking nuke depowered him and batman needed all the electricity from the city to power his suit, and then he faked his own death to not get his shit kicked in by supes

Tell that to Superfags, though. They hardly read that comic.

but user, i am a superfag.

Then what are you complaining about if you know that the fight was mostly staged?

This

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I remember that one scene in Hikateia.

im not complaining about it im . i didnt like how superman was a lapdog for not-reagan, and tried to stop batman, but then again, DKR is a batman story and a damn good one, and its not about superman.

Superman's position was a lot more complicated than that, though. The DKR sequels just shit up on everything, though. Miller lost his mind. Now i'm just bracing for Superman: Year One, which is supposed to be part of that crazy universe. Specially because of some of the things Miller has said about it.

Are you just stupid or just superfags? Batman was going to fucking kill him, he just faked his own death for escaping the paparazzies. Just read the book or watch the animated movie

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the fight at the start of dk2 was just awful, when batman had the big greem boxing gloves or whatever. just pure shit.

>superman: year one
gonna be a steaming pile of shit unless miller is back on his meds. i saw JRJRs cover art and it looks terrible, so im hoping that millers writing will carry it.

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Batman is for loneliness

theres no way batman would kill him. he faked his own death so superman would stop fighting him, and the govt would think that superman killed him. the guy goes into his hiding at the end, because everyone thought he was dead.

look at this way, superman was just there to capture him, and batman was there to fight.
>bruce this idiotic

You idiot, Batman defeated him, but Supes was happy to see Bruce

batman did not defeat superman. batman quit like a little pussy.

Teams form to cover each others' weaknesses. The 7 are not infallible. Each one of them makes up for something another one lacks.

Read the damn book superfag

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You know what? Without Supes they have a good dynamic together, I still think Bats is for Selina
And speaking about Selina has she ever visited Amazon island?

Cuz Superman doesn't have a cool factor if he's always portrayed as a bot scout with a defeatist attitude towards lois, who is basically a annoying cynical banshee that can't keep up with a alien who if he wanted could destroy her in journalism and investigation.

>Selina has she ever visited Amazon island?
I don't know but Lois sure did.

She did in the Wonder Woman ''77 books.

Here's a present for you.

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what is the context

I'd read a book of the Rogues/their equivalents that don't violate copyright getting dumped in a The Boys-esque world of evil heroes and just going to town

This is from that BatB comic right?
I remember reading this but I forgot what happens next.

Honestly, i can't remember. It's on my wife's files. She's a big WWBM shipper.
Yeah, Batman: Brave and the Bold tie-in comic.

>She's a big WWBM shipper.
Kill her, user. It's for her own good.

MM is ridiculously OP, but tends to job for the sake of the story.

but thats from dk2

MAI Nigga Doctor Fate getting the recognition he deserves. There's a reason most of his stories are
>new, untrained doctor fate
>doctor fate unable to act because fate says so
>nabu is an asshole and doctor fate has internal conflict

And not
>doctor fate doing doctor fate stuff at full power
because it takes a really good writer to handle that and also give him a challenge. Because a full powered doctor fate is literally YOU LOSE

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I'd read a comic where Superboy Prime just keeps getting dumped in awful universes ('Wanted', 'Empire') and ends up destroying them.

Shouldn't Superman be able to keep up with any amount of Speedforce fuckery with enough sun bathing or were Kryptons nerfed and I forgot the memo?

Dude.
That’s Mongul.

How the hell is aquaman OP?

Stop bullying Aquaman. Hasn't he been bullied enough?

To be fair, Terrax was a herald of Galactus

I just dont understand why would you have a nigga who's only powerful in the water to have on your team when most of the threats you encounter are on land.

Found the fanboy

No Wonder Woman fan really wants to see her with Batman or Superman. Batman and Superman fans do for obvious validation reasons, but people who appreciate Wondy's independence certainly do not.

Because he isn’t only powerful in water. How do people still not get this

Ah yes, his city level durability sure is powerful compared to weaklings on his team like Superman and Green Lantern right?

Fuck outta here, Aquaman is the weakest link in the JL, how do aquafags not understand this

>overpowered
Yeah no shit, OP, welcome to comics. Everyone who matters doesn't care about powerlevels though, character is more important. But hey, if you insist...

>Ben 10? More like Ben DEAD
>Avengers? Gonna need to avenged themselves after we're through with them
>Goku? Is she ready to die again? Not gonna be sorry this time.
>Marvel? House of Ideas? No original ones, that's for sure.

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Flash > Green Lantern > Martian Manhunter > Superman > Wonder Woman

>Frank get out of here

Going all out 100%
Supes > Hal > Flash > WW > MM > Arthur > Batman

You cannot tell me that if you put Superman and the Flash inside an invincium cage and told them to kill eachother or the universe dies, that the Flash would win. No way. If everything was on the line, push really came to shove, Superman would beat any other JL member, this coming from the who has been spamming Hal threads recently. DC would make it so.

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>CHADstice
>one of the chars has some obscure "OMEGA SHATTERING OMNIVERSAL " feat in one issue
>back to regularly jobbing to street level enemies in the next issue
Fucking DCucks everyone

S E E T H I N G

cope

I think everyone knows this, it's just a matter of how much of a fanboy and or asshole you wanna be.

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How is the Green Arrow overpowered?

Arrow Force. Can match the Speed Force and the Omega Effect.

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They will all job for Jobberseid.

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Reminder that Piper's parents didn't like him partly because he had no ambitions beyond fucking around with sonics and then he only became a criminal because he was bored

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No, it's still Flash who wins. Without the fire weakness MM could beat Superman too.

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Tell that to most of the Wonder Woman writers that ship them with either Superman or Batman. Nobody cares about Steve Trevor, my dude.

Green Lanterns are able to create kryptonites with but a thought, dude. They all cancel each other in some way.

Hal would absolutely fucked Clark in an all-out fight.

DC is about gods pretending to be men. Marvel is about men aspiring to be gods. Superman is too overpowered. Aquaman is useless, what can he do, talk to fish? What about when they're not near water? The only good DC character is Batman.

Didn't people complain when the league started hiring nobodies and c-listers because they weren't strong enough?

>But Oracle...
People will be pissed if he replaces Babs for that role.

Green Lantern and Flash should be a tie really.
Idk who out bullshits the other.

Babs hasn't been an information broker since she became Batgirl again.

They should, no one even tries with him

>Green Lanterns are able to create kryptonites with but a thought
No they can't. Green light constructs are not kryptonite. You're thinking of Firestorm.

This is trying too hard

I think that was in the Silver Age user.

They should bring it back. Fuck Superman. Hal should be able to make him sweat.

Since Green Lanterns manipulate hard-light wouldn't it make sense for Kyle or Hal to create wavelengths similar to Kryptonite?
I know they only manipulate the green spectrum of light but its not impossible for both of them to just will it right?

Just the flash
>Guy who runs fast
>is basically magic
sonic the hedgehog

The JL is more of an immediate response team for extreme threats. Each member is competent enough to deal with high level threats alone, but the diverse set of powers means that when some really extreme natural disasters or invasions go down, they can coordinate a response. Yeah, each member could probably eventually come up with some solution to any threat, but by having all seven, they can complement each other to more effectively handle areas outside their immediate expertise

Not that they're usually written like this

No because matter is made of more than just photons. Lrn2 chemistry.

They should. They used to. DC is just scared of making the Green Lanterns more OP than the kryptonians.

>all these filthy fucking non-readers
Hal thinks he could probably do it, but at some point after this, Superman showed he would wrap his fist in his cape, which is capable of blocking radiation, and thus able to counter the Kryptonite Hal creates.

It would indeed come down to either Hal or Clark, but when it really comes down to the "who can outbullshit the other" Superman would win. I am the biggest Halfag on the planet and have no issue admitting this.

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The only time they were ever written like this was during Morrison/Waid/Kelley's JLA.

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Holy shit! I didn't know Green Lantern could manipulate fear.

I doubt most of them can, at least more than "create spooky construct". Hal has had a lot more experience with it than the rest.

Hal could create several rocks of kryptonite. A whole fucking mountain of them. Superman's cape wouldn't be able to shield him from it.

If John Stewart can rebuild Xanshi to the smallest detail with his ring just from memory and will alone, then Hal can bury Superman in kryptonite just fine.

I often wondered that since the Green Lantern Corps is like billions of years old. How many members did they have? And I know some aliens are incredibly long-living so I also wanna know who stuck around.

You're focusing on the autismo details rather than the full picture. This guy had it right The feats don't matter, if it really came down to both wanting the other dead 100%, Superman would beat Hal...because it's what DC does with the characters. Doesn't matter if Hal creates a planet of Kryptonite, Superman would power through it.

This is the lesson gokufags will never learn, character and purpose > feats and possibilities.

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So you're saying because Superman is DC's mascot and full of plot-armor he'd win regardless of any kind of logic?

I'd imagine there are a fair few that are quite old. But DC is a very powerful and moreso dangerous setting. I'd wager most GLs either die of age or get murked by some god or horrific space monster before retiring.

Good point though, I wonder who is the most senior GL for time spent as a member, I'm pretty sure Mogo is the oldest at least in lifespan but there may be some who have served longer.

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Yes. Issue to issue doesn't matter. Trap both in a death match cage and Superman would walk out if it REALLY mattered.

So in that case Batman's the most powerful member of the Justice League.

I remember there was this incredibly old Tamaranian (So old he still looked like a cat-human) that guarded a crypt somewhere.

Sure in certain settings and purposes. Christ I don't need to post the amount of times he's beat the lot of em...and I fucking hate batman most of the time.

Black Adam BTFO them pretty easily though.

Hey, i'm just following here the meta-reasons we're all discussing about. Superman might be the publisher's mascot, but everyone knows Batman is the one who brings home the bacon. It's the same with Disney regarding Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck. Mickey might be the mascot, but Disney knows that Donald Duck is the one most viewers are really interested in.

Green Lanterns making kryptonite, or any other matter for that matter, is bullshit. Their rings are supposed to make hard light, not actual matter otherwise there's be no limit to what the corps can do. They could literally end world hunger. Has this bullshit ability been referenced anywhere else in comics? If not, I'm chalking it up to the writer not knowing Green Lantern lore.

Yeah I get ya. I just wish some writers didn't let it get to their heads. I might even stop reading comics in 10-15 years once the current generation take over writing. I cannot even imagine the bat-wank that awaits. That is if the comic industry even survives the absolutely horrific sales numbers they're getting, thanks Marlel. Billions in movie profits and you can't even get people to buy 50,000 issues of iron meme.

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It is a rarity and much more of a silver age thing, but yes it does happen every now and then.

>can't even get people to buy 50,000 issues of iron meme.
I hate this, man. When absolute shit like half the manga industry sells millions (don't get me wrong, I know it makes a lot of decent stuff), yet something like fucking batman is having a groundbreaking run when it goes over 100k. What the hell happened to industry? Makes me so damn upset every time I go to my LCS.

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Honestly, i don't feel that there will ever be this much Batwank you might be expecting. Yeah, we will always get those odd arcs where Batman pulls an Iron Man and defeat the combined Justice League for one reason or another, but i feel that DC knows that Batman really doesn't need that kind of fanwank. You can have the character portrayed as a poor sap or a big joke and people will still buy into it. Take for example the LEGO Batman. That character is a big, BIG joke. Even in his own solo movie he's treated as a pariah for humor's sake. People still love this version of the character.

It's Superman that DC have problems trying to decode, and so they tend to play safer or stupider with him. So that's why i feel there's all the caveats where pretty much you can't have anyone, but Batman knocking him down a few pegs. There's this whole care to protect his image, this, of course, when DC isn't trying to revolutionize the character with a wild new take that they feel will make all the casual audience fall in love with him.

>There's this whole care to protect his image, this, of course, when DC isn't trying to revolutionize the character with a wild new take that they feel will make all the casual audience fall in love with him.
It feels so flip-floppy me to and I find it more trouble than it's worth as a long time Supes fan. I really wish they would just commit to a universe/setting and thus a standard Superman. As popular as Batman is, Superman is the thing that the entire world extends from. Action #1000 was honestly kinda shit for this, and some other, reasons. Such a disappointment. I tried so hard to hype myself up for that issue.

Fuck it, who knows? Maybe the Superman character is impossible to write properly outside of short, unconnected runs e.g. All star Supes.

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The problem is that DC want for Superman to be important, they just don't know how. So they either try to protect him in very stupid ways, which just ends up fucking with other properties, or they try to present a New Pepsi version of the character, that most often than not just ends up being off-putting.

An example of dumb protection was the whole need to keep Superman as the first superhero to debut in the rebooted continuity following the New 52 initiative, which ended up forcing the Justice Society characters to be sidelined to another universe. Why do that? Not to mention that it ended being pointless, because they eventually had to go back on this by having Batman debut one year earlier to sorta explain all the various Robin being able to exist in the very narrow span of time they settled on for the new universe.

Remember the whole deal about Superman never acting as Superboy as a teen - because editorial felt that was too immature - or Superman being the only kryptonian left - because of the whole Last Son of Krypton tagline? Those two directives created so many goddamn messes to the point we eventually ended up with a Russian version of Zod just because.

So how would you make Wonderbat works in comics or movies?

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Vs autists BTFO

I think it's more along the lines he can create a hardlight construct of kyrptonite that emits the radiation that fucks with Superman. He doesn't make "real" kryptonite that will stick around, he just creates a construct of it and if he's good enough it will act just like the real thing. Like how they can make guns and shit that aren't real but work the way guns work.

I actually have a whole Batman/Wonder Woman ongoing plotted out, but there would be no romance, just a platonic relationship. Think of it more like a procedural dramedy a la shows like Castle.

What is the context here?

Tom King dragging Wonder Woman out of nowhere to shit on the pairing in order to placate the Batcat shippers that he desperately panders to because he has no idea what to do with the Batman ongoing other than to ape Knightfall and do shipping faggotry.

No, I mean in this book. Whats the year 14 thing is this an alternate universe?

The whole new 52 into rebirth thing was just so unplanned. They should have been prepping for it years earlier. Damn shame because it COULD have been much better than it was, like GL tried as hard as it could to ignore the rest of the entire universe changing cause johns wanted to finish his stuff, and all of a sudden Hal was a completely different character and no one at all knew what the hell was up with the Guardians or other human lanterns, let alone the other corps colors, which are still kinda muddled at the mo. Didn't help that they shoved in another two mostly irrelevant, and let's be honest, socially/politically driven earth lanterns into the mess before/during the whole shitstorm.

The writers and editorial need to sit the fuck down and figure out what they want to do with Superman, how the rest of the verse exists with him inside of it and where they want the stories to go. It was just so ham fisted and unsure at the start, I think the single reason it didn't collapse straight away was Grant Morrison's decent writing on Superman, you can easily see how quickly the universe goes to shit more or less the moment he stepped out of the books.

Going from New 52 into Rebirth was something of a renaissance for the whole thing, but it's more or less just dropped back to New 52 with a hint of post crisis, which again seems to have been fucked with, this time by the one and only Bendis. The comic book writer Bendis. Yes the bald guy who writes comcis. THE Bendis...my only real hope at this point is somehow this whole Doomsday Clock Doc Manhattan stuff that's going on at the moment solves a ton of issues going on, but I doubt it considering the delays.

Why, why did this all have to happen at the same time Marvel decided to tank the industry? I really don't think it's going to survive desu. I've barely got anything left on my pull list anymore, which hurts.

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Batman and Wonder Woman were trapped in an alternative dimension where they're constantly besiege by a everlasting horde of demons. Time there moves faster in relation to the home dimension. So while they really spent 3 days or something there, for them it was more like 30 years.

They're superheroes
That's the point
By cyborg shouldn't be there
Trying to make him an A-lister is such a meme
Replace with Martian Manhunter

But for what purpose?

BM/WW took some warrior guy's place in another dimension to give him a break from fighting constantly for 1 day. Turns out time flows differently so they were trapped there for decades (without aging), constantly fighting unending monster hordes, and they didn't know that going in.
At the end they switch back, and they get over it.

It's amusing. The only time I've ever liked cyborg is in the current Doom Patrol tv show...and even then I think I prefer literally every other character to him.

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Which issue was this in?

To make a dumb point.
You see the story is that Batman and Wonder Woman had promised some random guy that was stuck in this dimension a reprieve from all the constant demon fighting. Basically, this dimension exists because of people sins or something, so if there isn't anyone to fight the demons in this dimension there might be the risk of the demons eventually breaking through the normal dimension. Anyways, the time for that much needed reprieve had come, so Batman and Wonder Woman traded places with the guy so he can spend some time with his wife. Catwoman, though, was none to happy about it, specially when she learned that time passed differently in this dimension, meaning that Batman would be stuck alone in a dimension with Wonder Woman foe years, if not decades. So she forces the guy to exchange places back pronto.
The point the whole arc tried to make that you're never truly alone if you're with somebody you love. Even in a dimension filled with an everlasting horde of demons trying to eat your ass. This dude felt the demons there were everlasting because he was completely alone in it, as did Batman and Wonder Woman because while they were together there they weren't with the ones they truly loved, but the next time Catwoman promised she and Batman would be the ones to take their place in that dimension, meaning that Batman and Catwoman time there wouldn't feel as if the demons there are truly everlasting.

So Wonder Woman had a time chamber this whole time and she didn't used it?

It was in Batman 40 and it isn't really a time chamber.

I realized Rebirth wasn't going to work the moment i read the Titans and Teen Titans books. The big promise was that the New 52 versions of the characters the readers weren't happy with would eventually remember their pre-Flashpoint past somehow or even outright get fully changed to their pre-Flashpoint versions with little questions being asked. But when i read the Titans book, for example, i realized DC wasn't really willing to do away with the New 52 setting. Cyborg was still nowhere to be found, Beast Boy and Raven were still teenagers that had more in common with Tim Drake than Dick Grayson, Starfire had never been a Titan before and was nothing but Dick and now Roy's ex, and Donna was still a clone of Wonder Woman that was meant to kill her original. Only Wally, really, was his pre-Flashpoint version, but the Titans book arcs tried really hard to discard with the whole pre-Flashpoint emissary angle and retcon his existence to mesh with the New 52 universe, by revealing that the reason nobody could remember that he existed was because the New 52 version of Abrakadabra erased him from reality. That was the moment i realized that DC had no guts, or really, the intention, to pull what their promised with Rebirth. Worse... all that promised amounted to nothing but an excuse to redo the pre-Flashpoint classic arcs, like the whole Titans, Teen Titans, and Deathstroke cross-over thing which was nothing but a redo of Judas Contract made to fit the New 52 setting. Or the following Titans book arc where a future and evil version of Donna comes back in time to the present, with that arc being nothing but a redo of the Dark Angel Saga.

Rebirth in the end was nothing but an excuse for DC to cannibalize past classic arcs and ships because they were trying to play it safe and knew readers nostalgia could help them out. They're pulling the same shit now with their animated movies.

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But why? Time passes different: 10 years in the dimension, 1 hour there. It is a time chamber. Why didn't Wonder Woman went like Goku?

Because that dimension is a barren land-scape filled with constant spawning demons. The only reason people stay there is to protect the normal dimension from being overrun by the demons that spawn in this place.

Because of the hordes of nightmare monsters there. There is literally an endless number of creatures trying to eat you there. WW is tough but she's not Goku user.

Then it's a time chamber with hordes as training! Thats even better! Now whats your excuse for not letting Wondy using it?

Then the creatures are for training! Let Wondy use it for eternal training!

Catwoman didn't want to leave Wonder Woman alone with Batman in there.

Selina really think to have possibilities with Bruce? Diana was madevfor Bruce, the even had a daughter together in an elseworld

>Diana was madevfor Bruce, the even had a daughter together in an elseworld
You're probably thinking of JLA #90, penned by Joe Kelley. That was a dream scenario dreamed up by Wonder Woman while using Martian Manhunter's technology. She dreamed them having twins, a boy and a girl.
And Catwoman had a daughter with Batman in an alternative universe that went to shit. Twice.

Supes and WW have had kids more than once as well

Yup. Most of them fucked in the head, which is hilarious.

You can blame Alan Moore for this.

The only ones that come to mind are these two.

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Don't forget the Frank Miller's books with the crazy and murderous Lara, and probably soon-to-be fucked up John.

Kingdom Come, too, they had a whole bunch. They also would have had a kid in some not-released comic in the late 80s by alan moore. Twilight of the Superheroes from memory.

Kingdom Come and Dark Knight Strikes Again are all based somewhat on Alan Moore's Twilight of the Super-Heroes, which ironically tried to shit on the whole idea of SMWW.
Either way, Wonder Woman is treated as a prize wife and baby factory for Superman in Elseworlds.

>actually think "me strong you strong is a good ship"
>frank miller as an example of something in comics
Try harder superwonderfags. We both know that in blackest night and "who is wonder woman" Bruce and Diana are the only ones that deserve eachothers. Wonderbat is the only good otp for Bruce and Diana

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>Kingdom Come, too, they had a whole bunch.

They what.

Pretty sure Jonathon's from the Kingdom and he's the only kid they had in that continuity.

I forgot.

...

Can't find a single decent pic of her.

>actually think "me strong you strong is a good ship"

I never did. Don't drag me into your vortex of pretentiousness, boy.

>Wonderbat is the only good otp for Bruce and Diana

Ah, to be young and very nearly brainless again...

Clark and Diana were pregnant at the end, they make Bruce godfather. How the fuck did you miss that! The in then in the sequel they're shown with like 3-4 kids.

Alex Ross later got to do "his" ending to Kingdom Come, that completely ignored Mark Waid's ending - AKA The Kingdom. This happened in Justice Society of America books, penned by Geoff Johns and Alex Ross. The name of the precise arc is "Thy Kingdom Come". In it KC Superman showed up in the main universe and thinking he was back in his past tried to... well, forcibly take mainline Superman's Lois. The two Supermen meet, talk about the multiverse and shit, some shenanigans of no consequence happens, and KC Superman goes back to his universe which is now known as Earth-22. In the very end Alex Ross showed a new epilogue to Kingdom Come where he added a bunch of children to Superman and Wonder Woman. I think they had like 5 or something.

I see what you're saying I'm just tired of her being powered then depowered then rinse and repeat. It's not a hard thing to do, just look at Superman, he's super every issue and Batman is freaking awesome all the time even when he's losing. With her they've always gotta go the extra mile with making her weak.

I don't mind if she's written as a naive school guy or a heartless amazon, both are cool with me depending on the story. Just keep her powerful and not have her get beaten so constantly by do nothing enemies. As a reader, I'm supposed to believe that she can go toe to teo with Superman and can match wits with Batman. Instead, writers have her come off as an entitled princess straight out of college. It's odd to me.

How powerful should Wonder Woman be?

The problem regarding Wonder Woman power-levels is that you've two school of thought pulling the character left and right. There are the people that want Wonder Woman to be Superman with a battle-skirt and so as powerful as him (but not exactly as him, because no girl gets to be a match to SuperMAN), and then there are the people that want Wonder Woman to be like she used to be pre-CoIE before all the power-ups where she was simple durable - hence the bracelets -, could jump really high, had an invisible jet, and so on.

That's why sometimes she can trade blows with Superman-tier villains, while another a stray bullet can pierce her skin.

How do comic writers maintain continuity? I don't know a whole lot about how comics are made.

Slower than All flashes and Cheetah and Supes, slightly faster than Captain Marvel.

Powerful as CM, maybe a little more.

Slightly better fighter than Batman without gadgets.

Should have a massive understading about history and myths(no more than Hawkman)

Should be the one of the best ambassador and negotiator.

Should have knowlegde about magic. Maybe there shouldbe an arc about she trying to learn.

Make her bullet thing more like Aquaman. It hurts her but does nothing regardless.

>Slightly better fighter than Batman without gadgets.
I know they will never do this but it would be fun to see Bruce get taken down a notch.
>Should be the one of the best ambassador and negotiator.
Oh yeah, is she still an ambassador? Haven't seen that side of her since Amazons attack
>Should have knowlegde about magic. Maybe there shouldbe an arc about she trying to learn.
She does this in JLD but if you're not into JLD then I guess you'll have to wait.

>Slower than All flashes and Cheetah and Supes, slightly faster than Captain Marvel.
>Powerful as CM, maybe a little more.
Captain Marvel has the speed of Hermes and the strength of Hercules, bro.

>I know they will never do this but it would be fun to see Bruce get taken down a notch.
Batman has never been shown beating her, though. He at most have been shown to distract or escape her.

IIRC in Ordways run CM got bodied by Diana in an arm-wrestling contest.
Also I think in current comics Diana is waay stronger than before.

Yeah she does have them + experience hence she should be slightly better.

Thats why i always saw Black Adam as OP as fuck.

>Faster than the guy with the Speed of the God of Speed, but slower than a furry-catgirl with the powers of a creature slower than a car.

> but slower than a furry-catgirl with the powers of a creature slower than a car.
Cheetah was "enhanced" by Zoom I think.

If you take away magic claws and speed from cheetah she becomes useless.

Also fucking CHEETAH, not Lioness or Lady Puma. Let her have some speedster level bullshit speed.

We passed the point of "too many characters manipulating Speedforce" about 6 characters back, maybe further.

Current Diana is a demi-goddess with ill defined powers. For example in Rebirth Greg Rucka tried to ignore the whole Zeus thing and have Diana be a normal human who gets her powers from the gods as blessings, but then after he left the book Dan Didio asked James Robinson to bring the Zeus thing back, so... what's what? Are her powers due to her being a demi-god or due to her being blessed by the gods? This hasn't been cleared up yet,

>Oh yeah, is she still an ambassador? Haven't seen that side of her since Amazons attack

Well they should write some stroies about that. Her beating Ares for a thousand time got boring.

Does Wonder Woman still have an embassy?
>Her beating Ares for a thousand time got boring.
Isn't Ares a good guy now?

Wonder Woman hasn't been an ambassador since the New 52 reboot. Hell, if anything Wonder Woman doesn't have any real purpose to herself outside of being a superhero just because ever since the reboot.

In the New 52 it was established that she used Steve mostly to escape her island and go exploring, because she hated the place and her amazon sisters. So when she got to the US she simple accepted to help as a soldier of sorts the government because of Steve's influencing, later on going on to joining the Justice League.
With Rebirth it was established that she left the island mostly to stop Ares, like in the movie, but after that there is nothing else more for her to do other than again becoming a soldier for the government by Steve's influence, and probably later on joining the Justice League.
Either way, she is now nothing more than a member of the Justice League and a hired-help of ARGUS.

I think its a combination of both. She's a demigod who was enhanced by the blessings of the gods.

>In the very end Alex Ross showed a new epilogue to Kingdom Come where he added a bunch of children to Superman and Wonder Woman. I think they had like 5 or something.

Thank you!

Like her Silver or Golden Age counterpart: strong enought to beat andand wipe the floor with bloodlusted Superman.
And she can move the moon is she really wanted

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That sounds awesome. Why don’t we see more Multiverse shenanigans in DC anymore?

It really wasn't awesome, though. You had KC Superman trying to rape mainline Superman, and this happened after he had already gotten with KC Wonder Woman, which throws that whole relationship into question. Then Ross gives an epilogue where KC Superman and Wonder Woman have a bunch of kids, but everyone dies other than Superman because of his slow-aging to show that he stuck around the see the birth of KC Legion of Super-Heroes. Making it further clear that KC Wonder Woman was that inconsequential to the whole Superman wanking festival that is Kingdom Come.

No we didnt.

>You had KC Superman trying to rape mainline Superman's LOIS
Sorry there. That got weird.

I read the main JSA books so I didn’t know this.

Yeah, it was weird. I get that Ross wanted to show that Lois was important to KC Superman, but come on. You just throw KC Wonder Woman under the bus by doing that. Not to mention that having KC Superman going all hog on an unsuspecting Lois is just fucking weird in itself.

Isn’t KC Supes just injustice Superman with more restraint? Only difference is that Joker got killed by Magog and not himself.

Obligatory. Simon is /ourguy/.

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Oh, shit. You just reminded me of Regime Superman threatening good universe Superman of stealing his Lois. Weird how that was brushed off by later game and tie-in comics.

What happened to Simon and Jessica after Green Lantern Corps ended? Singularity Jain should come back at some point.

Yeah, I remember that too.
Were the writers big fans of Johns and Waid? Like 90% of the characterizations there are from their books imo.

Jess is on Odyssey but I don't know where Simon is.

>he's a green lantern all right

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How could Regime Wonder Woman still support him after that and threatening to nuke both Gotham and Neo-Metropolis?

>cyborg shouldn't be there
The Justice League needs an IT guy

WW is crazy and obsessed with Superman.
Weird, I still love pic related though.

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Well, she's supposed to be up there with Shazam & Superman in strength levels but they never have her do anything of note with her obscene strength. She used to have the speed of Hermes but you never see her do anything remotely close to super human speed besides blocking bullets. To me, it shouldn't be that hard to show how powerful she is because she doesn't have much in her powerset that sets her apart. She basically doesn't have anything like heat vision and nothing close to a projectile energy weapon. So focusing on what she does should be pretty simple Just highlight the few powers she does have and either speed up her healing process or make her harder to hurt with sharp objects. It's just really upsetting that the sharpness from a thorn on a flower can piece her skin and cause her harm yet she can tank blows from Zod. So yeah, just make her vulnerability to sharp objects make more sense sorta like Aquaman's.

Bullets still stick to Aquaman's skin though it doesn't go all the way through. Just make Wonder Woman not a glass cannon type of character which she is kinda at this moment. Anyone with a gun can kill her and that's just weird. Because it makes it seem like she's only there because she's a girl and not because she deserves to be there.

Batman is just a dude, so I get why he can just do anything because that makes him succeeding all the cooler. Superman is just well he's supposed to be super. But Wonder Woman seems like she's just there to fit a quota because she's always losing to just about every henchman there is.

We're told how awesome she is but it's always belittled by writing and she hardly ever contributes to plots or has any ideas, she 's always corrected in conversations and yeah.

I thought she was as powerful as she was supposed to be in the New 52. I didn't like her being younger but I sorta like how she could handle her own crap & had didn't lose all the time.

>and my wife, Lois
But your current wife is KC WW.

Thanks for the insight.

This was before that.
He was transported the moment the Nukes hit.

How large is that moon?

Also: Beat Silver Age Superman? Good luck.

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It really was awesome, though.

I liked Wonder Woman when she was a HUMAN girl who was blessed by the gods with wondrous powers, but was relatively mid-tier. Like her being able to see as a hawk due to Artemis' blessing or talk with animals dude to Gaia's blessing, and so many other cool powers that were simply dropped over the years in an attempt to better pair her with Superman.

It wasn't, though. It was some of the most goddamn pointless wank to Kingdom Come. That whole period was going through it.

Large enought to be catched by Wonder Woman. And Wondy must be strong enough to beat Superman and Zod
And Silver Age superman was the most weaker version. He fainted for lifting fat Lois Lane

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I mean, she can still talk to animals. In her first rebirth issue she used it to hunt down a group of poachers. And she also spoke to Powergirls cat at one point.

Cyborg's only in to fill the diversity quota.

Its more like Silver Age Superman was incredibly inconsistent (like most of the Silver Age).
I mean there is a reason why Superboy Prime was so damn powerful.

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I thought Strange at his peak with the support of several gods and artifacts has matched/beaten Fate. Current one has been nerfed quite a bit.

Yeah, I know that too. Strange is way more OP than people give him credit for.
But Fate is still pretty powerful though most people can't get a decent hit on him.

Technically Wonder Woman being from the Greek Gods should give her access to some ridiculous artifacts and weapons. Is there no a story of hers yet where she gathers a couple of them and goes ham on the world?

How different is Wonder Woman compared to her pre-flashpoint self?

But the Gary Stu Superboy still can't lift fat Lois Lane. And Silver Age Superman couldn't lift Fat! Lois Lane because he was weak. While Wonder Woman can lift everyone

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I'm sure two old geriatric bone bags don't weigh as much as fat Lois Lane.

According to the comic Fat Lois weight at least 250 kg. And our Wondy literally lifted an army of men and throw them in space. They sure were heavier than fat Lois Lane....

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>Wonder Woman was once strong enough to lasso planets
My God. What happened to crazy shit like this?

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That's sorta weak sauce. I like her more being able to battle alongside the big boys. But yeah some of her older powers would be cool though. I remember when she was able to meditate herself into other planes of existence. Now that would be cool to see from time to time. But yeah, mid-teir WW serves no purpose.

Yeah, there are some good ones out there but not nearly enough. If Bruce is always getting cool gagets the same should be for WW except with magic of course. That could even things out some.

Different enough, but I'd just like her power to be more consistant like Supes & Batman. Supes & Batman are always at a certain level of toughness so when they are taken down, you the reader are like WHoa! Or maybe you don't even believe that it could happen but you have to accept it anyway. With her it's like anyone could take her down now nowadays if they get lucky. People don't get lucky with Supes or Bats.

gritty grim dark tacticool reality happened, user

>Yeah, there are some good ones out there but not nearly enough.
Didn't Deathstroke get that Godkiller sword? Pretty edgy but its metal could be a cool component.

Yeah, think he had the sword for a while but I'm not sure if that transferred over into Rebirth or not.

I think Cheetah has it now.

Heroines got depowered. But I really want dceu Wonder Woman to be as strong as this Wonder Woman so she can lasso planets

The DCAU had it going pretty well, it only got fucked up cause DC editorial still wanted to push her getting together with Supes when they continued on to the comics.

How Strong is Cyborg currently?

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And how would you make it works for movies?

He has Hypertime powers I think.

Yo, doesn't that make him stupidly broken? What does he do with it?

Cyborg has all of the capabilities of a Motherbox. He was recently given the ability to process data from the Multiverse by Snyder in Justice League Metal. In the last issue of JLO he had a upgrade. He was able to draw forth the Brainiac ship to him like a magnet when he opened a boom tube.

In the Cyborg solo series by John Semper jr. I thought he had some cool villains like Mekkan X, Fyre Wyre and the Variant. But he hasn't had anyone to go up against outside his solo series or in live action Doom Patrol. He's still somewhat a token player in that sense like Black Lightning.

I think the DCEU actually had potential to building up a relationship between them with their encounters in BvS as well as being like the "parents" for the team seeing as both have been professional heroes for quite some time compared to the others, but the Justice League movie fucked it all up with having Batman be some joker(and Afleck leaving) and having Wonder Woman still be hung up on Steve.

That Mongul you idiot

Huh, so he's like a map of the multiverse? Cyborg seems cooler now.

Funny how it's the opposite for either Spidey or Wolvie, who jobs to the other characters in order for the non mascot main face heroes to beat, despite them being as iconic as Supetman and universal symbols of the company.

Stronger than Saitama

Wait. They did a Prime crossover where he shows up on empire?

for you

t.marvel fanboy

hi laddercuck

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what's it like being a DCuck?

So are the people they’re up against, keep your companywarring to yourself

Thanos is more like Mongul.

Bloodlusted he could if he gets the drop on him, but realistically he couldn’t because he wouldn’t be willing to mindrape him

I hate that Diana can fly.
>casuals saw Superfriends as kids
>arbitrarily decide the Invisible Jet is silly because reasons, and being too stupid to realize that her being visible is non-diegetic
>unique aspect of the character is removed in favor of homogenizing her to be like a hundred other flying bricks
Fuck that shit. The Invisible Jet is awesome, and you will not convince me otherwise.

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Can the fucking jannies ban these two faggots yet?

No, they’re equal in op powerleveling but all of the OP stuff is constrained to the cosmic level in Marvel.

>crying for mods
seething

Most of Strange's strength comes from his guile and trickery to defeat his opponents.
Dr. Fate just uses raw magical strength and abilities to overpower his opponents with sheer magnitude.

OP here, this thread sucks and I regret making it

>power level thread turned out shit
Shock. Gasp. Nobody could've possibly seen that coming.

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I feel like powerleveling isn’t the problem, but rather how it’s used- when used well, it creates an postive impact on the story via ways like raising the stakes or help with wish fulfillment or the story’s themes. When used badly, it does the reverse by making the stakes feel meaningless, open plot holes, or close off opptunities for future works.

They should've hired a writer to go full machine-body horror on Cyborg.

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They have an invisible fortress last time I read her book.

They're going for that in DP last I heard.

Oh fuck off with that bullshit. The key difference between Marvel and DC is DC is more about legacies and has better magic shit while Marvel keeps adding and adding to the same character and has better space shit.

It literally was, though.

Speaking of OP characters are there any characters you thought were weak but turns out to be really powerful?
Personally, I thought Plasticman was a pushover but looking back at it now he seems way more powerful than I previously believed.

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That's Apocalypse dude.

What about Plastic Man? He's treated as a joke character but isn't he like ridiculously overpowered.

Pretty powerful in a way but definitely not a heavy hitter.

She can fly with the Hermes's winged boots, not for her own

What issue is this?

No. Speedy Gonzales.

Beast Boy. He seems to just be comedy relief and a dork, but dude is packing some serious power. I mean, he can turn into a literal god and theoretically into a kryptonian Dog.

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>Turn into a god
What? Since when?

I always hear about this but I want to see him go full power somewhere. Does anyone know where he does?

Dunno, he went against a Durlan and Mentally assaulted Dr. Psycho in his Solo. Then he went all out agains the Flash in Injustice.
Maybe you should check out the terrifics? I heard he’s done some cool stuff there.

Beast Boy always had the potential to be very OP.

>The Ring has limits, user.
Honestly it really doesn't. Neither does the speed force though

the silverage was a better time

B-but muh Greek Gods and Hercules knock offs are original and cool

He’s the perfect character for Tom King to self insert his PTSD on, given his military background but instead he had to do it with either the most obvious hero or the least obvious ones for shock value

Let’s be honest half of Yea Forums wants to be manhandled by Superman

By that logic so has Animal Man.

His daughter is way more powerful IIRC.

Who doesn't, all that boy-scout acts outside and bad-boy attitude in bed.

>Also, how would he beat a brick like Superman that way?

Either go so fast that his superdense superhard punch hits hard enough to hurt Superman or steal Superman's motion and turn him into a statue.

He was Batman’s emergency plan for Evil Martian Manhunter with Fire powers

How would Plas deal with Martian Manhunter?

Why is an anime there?

Morrison’s JLA. He can shapeshift well enough to keep up with J’onn and has his mind protected. This was when MMH was turned evil due to some hidden Martian power locked away by the Guardians of the Universe

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How is his mind protected?

Inorganic brain

Current Strange (the one in Waid’s run), isn’t nerfed though. He’s pretty much at his usual classic levels

>Also, how would he beat a brick like Superman that way?
The speed force also acts to protect him from damage of his own speed, which means the faster he's going the stronger he gets too. Reverse Flash beat the entire Justice League recently, including Superman.

You're no different than a SMWW. In fact have the same talking point but SMWW make more sense with two super powered beings. While you overpower Batman so he can be with Wonder Woman.

>In fact have the same talking point but SMWW make more sense with two super powered beings.
Are couples now all about matching superpowers? What that says about Lois, then?

I'm just using his own logic. That's what BMWW fans keep using and then mock SMWW for the same thing. Pairings are so annoying. At least be honest.

Maybe he's talking about chemistry.

>
>They're all pretty overpowered
The Annihilators > JL

Same can be said about SMWW user. To be honest it's all up to the writer. You can make chemistry with anyone. Nothing is set in stone especially with comics.

Not, it really can't. SM and WW have no chemistry together and whenever they're paired writers always focus on the same off-putting concepts. Maxima was created based on those stories so writers would stop dragging Wonder Woman to that kind of bullshit. Maxima.

Animal Girl is just as good.

They just needed to dial it back a bit for the movies. DCAU weren't as strong as their originals and they worked well.

I still don't get how he beat the Annihilators.

BMWW has worse chemistry than SMWW. I’ve never seen WW acting like an immature schoolgirl until I saw BMWW be a thing. Superman belongs with Lois, and WW belongs to Steve. Leave trinity shipping out of this

Superman is a chad so it’s just natural. She doesn’t mean anything for it.

WW never behaved like immature schoogirl with BM. Stop spouting bullshit.

Wonder Woman acts like one of Charle Manson's groupies whenever she's paired with Superman. Even in mainline comics whenever it happens. Come on, man. She's completely OoC.

At least its better than SMWW. Diana knows well that Clark and Lois have a thing but she still decides to go for Supes. She’s a whore.

This

I need more of this semen demon

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Pretty sure popular dc characters are all overpowered. A lot of them have bad powers or no powers at all and aren’t well known. Same thing with marvel, a lot of their popular heroes aren’t as overpowered but if you really look at is there’s guys like Iron Man that have plot device armors for days, Hulk that has unlimited strength, Rouge with one of the most OP powers, and now has a female with foot fungus that is apparently the strongest of them all.

How powerful is Zatanna again?

Very. She can do pretty much anything, as long as she can say it backwards. This dude fought the spectre and she beat him.

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How? Isn't the Spectre incredibly powerful?

In Blackest Night, MM said he was stronger than Superman, but he might have just been fucking with the Barry & Hal Detective Squad.
As a huge GL fan, Hal is a fucking moron. Like, this is canon. Most corps members are idiots who use some of the most powerful weapons ever created to hit people with trains.

Yes. Welcome to DC comics. I thought you'd already know that it's ludicrously overpowered. Even the shit tier z listers are often capable of shaking the heavens. This is the lesson gokufags and bentroglodytes will never accept. The dials go up to 11.

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can we just agree how big a faggot this guy is for not knowing Tyranitar when he sees him?

Stop with this bullshit, Diana and Bruce are perfect for eachothers, Batman and Wonder Woman are an otp

Does Zee have the best legs in all of comics? I think she might desu

>all the brainlet batman non readers not knowing the best pairing is him and Zatanna

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You've read too much Hiketeia user, it'll never work out.

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>Does Zee have the best legs in all of comics?
Yes, those thighs... Even as a kid, I knew something was up with them.
I say she's a close tie with Canary because fishnets do wonders.

>batman was going to fucking kill him
>said he couldn't kill him
>said supes was holding back all along
>even depowered as supes was
Supes is the definition of deus ex machina built from plot armor.

I'm happy for Dini. Going from a beta orbiter trying to get with some thot only stringing him along for a chance to meet Spielberg to marrying the living embodiment of his 2D waifu. The man is living the dream.

Superman was going easy because he was arrogant, then Batman used kryptonite and even if Supes wanted he couldn't have defeated him since he was using kryptonite weapons

What's with the "sklitch"?

I admit the first time I saw Cyborg in Nu52 Justice League, I was confused. I remember him from Teen Titans, not anything Justice League.

Batman exploded from inside out and threw blood and shit everywhere.

It was the blood that the daughter of Diana and Bruce was spilling from a wife abuser

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Every kid Batman has had always turned out to be crazy. Why is that?

>superman has never beat people with kryptonite before

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It's genetic. Any kid of Batman will have a crazy man as a father and a woman crazy enough to marry said crazy man.

>Why is that?
Batman.

He's an inspiration and source of hope, maybe we all really can make it.

She looks kinda hot.

To be fair, the comic was exploring the idea of what kind influence Gotham would exercise on Diana's kids if she raised them there, because she feared it'd be a negative one.

A Batman that can't beat Superman is just a Bruce Wayne

>only true way to beat superman with kryptonite is black kryptonite

She would break you and make you pray for her mercy

Holy shit. Do you even read what you write? Wonder Woman is literally OC when she's with Batman too. All obsessed with dates she becoming nothing else but his groupie.

Dude, you've no idea what you're talking about. Name the comics.

And all you have going with you is the Animated series. Which exactly proves his point. Face it BMWW is much more of a failed experiment than SMWW. With SMWW they had years done on it. Trinity shipping should all go to the bin.

I can name comics from Greg Rucka, Phill Jimenez, Warren Ellis, Joe Kelley, and so on that are NOTHING like he mentioned.
Hell, even the DCAU doesn't fit his description.

>With SMWW they had years done on it.
And not a single good story or cute interaction. It's always something bordering into INJUSTICE tier characterization.

Didn't we have a 4-5 years relationship of SMWW where they were pretty much equal to the point that DC just made them forget it because they couldnt find any other way to end their relationship. I'm just saying chemistry is made by the writer.

Leave them to me

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>Didn't we have a 4-5 years relationship of SMWW where they were pretty much equal
Nah, he was always shown to be stronger than her, despite the pairing existing all because of 'muh superpowers', and he was always shown chastising her, because she was being portrayed as an awful person and hero.

Seriously, it is always like that when it comes to SMWW. Wonder Woman is portrayed as a blood-thirsty cunt with god-complex who's into Superman only because he seems strong and popular, and then Superman ends up slowly "taming" her to be less of a cunt and more submissive, because Superman's that manly and wholesome.

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