After watching Brightburn I started thinking about "evil superman" stories...

Do you guys think Brandon would get along with the Aquaman creature and Wonder Woman being in this universe? Or would he kill them too?

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The whole "evil Superman" thing is retarded. If it's some other character, fine whatever, but it's Clark Kent for fucks sake. Dude is a total bleeding heart dweeb who constantly angsts about "But what if I go too far?". I don't buy him turning heel for a second.

Nah, General Zod was never a respected superhero who had a life and friends.

This was literally Superman being an alien scout/invading force, taking out the JL as part of his plan. Its literally Clark suddenly revealing to Jon that he has always planned tomenslave humanity and he never cared about Lois.

>Wonder Woman being
Wait, does this movie actually have a Wondy type character in it, or is that just hypothetical?

There is mention of a "frightening woman" who strangles people with her rope.

I know I haven't read Invincible in a while but didn't Nolan turncoat? Its not really fair to compare him to an evil Superman when he's a good guy.
I'm saying Invincible has a lot more to do with Thragg (Zod) hunting Mark (Superboy).

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The best answer. The Plutonian was a petty monster.

Injustice.

superman is evil is a stupid premise since superman is always evil the only difference is whether he does it intentionally or not

Eventually.

I didnt want to give it all away, but for a good amount of time, that was the reality of the title.
He was eventually good again. But if not for Mark, the plan was going ahead despite Nolan's inner denial. And it was presented as a difference in values basically.

Autism
Luthor autism

>intentionally or not

Talk to me about these evil accidents, user.

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Superdickery doesn't count.

There's that comic "A God Somewhere"

not bad but the transition into becoming evil seemed a bit rushed

He made a handsome genius go bald

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I think he means difference between
>I'm going to kill the world for funsies
and
>I'm going to conquer the world for it's own good

>frightening woman who strangles people with her rope
Sigh. So do retards just like the idea of Wondy being a violent and hateful asshole? Because this shit happens far too often.

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Is that true, cuz I’d love a horror Green Lantern movie

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Yes, so far it's just an Aquaman creature and a kind of wonder woman. It seems powers make people evil in this world

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From what I've heard, Brightburn seems to be an unofficial adaptation of Earth 3

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He regretted everything though.

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Do you get the premise of the film, or have you skillfully rused me into being upset?

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He's not evil though. At his core he's still Superman just with Hitler's ideals layered over it.

To be honest, I have paid extremely little attention to it, since I'm sick and tired of "but what if Superman was evil?" edgelord shit.

Cringe.

I prefer the hyperion from squadron supreme max

Evil superman stories has been done to death already, I'd be more interested in an evil batman story, I don't think it's been done yet.

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Nemesis

I, Joker.

Owlman.

The Tyrant elseworld.

The evil batman in catwomen elseworlds.

Another Evil Batman in another catwoman book.

Vampire Batman.

what is a white man doing having dinner with a black and a pregnant chink?

The Batman who Laughs

Dark Knights: Metal

The problem is that's a story that ends in like five minutes. What happens is that Wondy very nicely asks him to stop, and when he refuses, she bops him on the head and puts his uppity ass in time out.

Why Diana? Her box is empty, meaning Bruce has no real plan to stop her.

The only one I like is Red Son, but that's because he's not evil, just not American. Evil Overlord Superman is never a good story.

Bizarro a worst

Asian woman.

His plan to neutralize her is to stuff her box

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>The problem is that's a story that ends in like five minutes. What happens is that Wondy very nicely asks him to stop, and when he refuses, she bops him on the head and puts his uppity ass in time out.
If previous "What-if-Superman-went-bad" comics are any indication, Wondy will actually immediately take the side of Bat-Fascist and enable the fuck out of him, just like she did with Superman in Injustice

It's ok to be retarded and not understand the whole Two (2) appearances of Overman. Just accept that you're /pol/-pilled and not actually capable of reading a character honestly anymore.

Supershock from Powers

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I don't know if this counts but the superman animated series played with the concept well.

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>Overman will never fight Red Son

Heroes in Crisis

>Having dinner with his wife and buddy
>Having dinner with his buddy and his wife
>Having dinner with his husband and pregnant friend
I know it's a foreign concept to you but people do have friends and social lives

Shit thatd be a good what-if

No ur cringe.

Yikes. Abortion is baby murder.

I like a "evil Superman" when it's something original, like he really doesn't want to be evil but if the world fights him they stay unified in peace and he just did evil shit once a blue moon to keep pressure up.
Most stories sadly are "he gets raised bad" or "he is pushed over the edge"

>Jor-El has twin sons
>Sends them to Earth
>Both land during the 20's
>One is stuck in a German research facility
>The other is adopted by good soviet farmers
>German bro is honed into the ultimate Nazi super weapon
>Russian bro joins up to fight for the Motherland
>German bro sees the concentration camps and realizes they're the baddies
>Russian bro sees all the destruction wrought on Mother Russia during the war and becomes an engine of vengeance
Rate

nah the voices in his head wouldn't agree to it

How do they refer to evil Aquaman?

JLA Earth 2 was too damn short

Dunno but how would Evil Aquaman work?

Being Poseidon, lord of the seas and sinker of ships.

Ok. What about evil Manhunter? Or evil Cyborg?

>Russian bro sees all the destruction wrought on Mother Russia during the war and becomes an engine of vengeance

And he doesn't see the russian death camps, when they were created before the german ones and were more numerous?

>mind reading monster from Mars that shapeshifts into your worst fears
>twisted monster of flesh and machine out for revenge

Isn't mainline Batman already pretty evil? At least DC can't stop doing stories where they go: "You know, maybe Batman is really deep down an evil guy?"

>Or evil Cyborg?
Frankenstein's Monster is a thing.

I'm not sure 'devotion' to the 'human cause' is the correct way - I think it's both his own sense of self as an active participant in humanity on Earth and an attachment to his humanity (represented by the Kents, Lois, and in the current mainline canon, Jonathan Samuel, as well as his human and otherwise Earthbound friendships, e.g. the League and associates, the Daily Planet, etc.).

>communicate them to others
Again, I'm not sure this is precise; Superman wants to help, what they convey's, I think, can be open to interpretation by those 'helped' and those impacted by it - anything else is much too subjective to interpretation, but I don't think Superman specifically communicates any one thing or another.

Show me on this doll where you were hurt.

Hmmm... What about Flash? I don't think you can make him evil without making him a rip-off of Professor Zoom or Johnny Quick.

>handsome genius
"allegedly"

It does reek of the stupidity that was Cereal Lord's fan fic redo for the New 52, yes.

To be fair, Venditti is using Overman in the same stupid fashion as user is implying in the current Freedom Fighters mini-series.

>You have won a $1,000 small press print award for creative use of an existing fandom property. Kindly send us $1,000 and we will send you some beautifully printed and embossed books with your original story, that you will be able to sell for five times your payment.

>Operators are standing by.

Go to bed, Lex.

It's real but I kind of doubt it'll get a sequel based on the reception. How's the box office look?

It hardly counts towards OP's topic but if you want to waste 8 hours of your life, you can read Injustice.

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Sure, but I'm assuming an instance where she's actually being written in character, instead of the psycho warrior bitch that only exists in bad writers' heads.

Cringe

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He's not evil but he still does dodgy things like reprogramming people. But what I liked about it was that it still had Superman trying his best to be a good person even if what he was doing was questionable, as opposed to Injustice which was just making Regime Superman outright evil.

It would make sense for him not to. Remember in Red Son, it was only after Stalin died that Superman refused to let the Soviet army do horrific things. And of course he was willing to turn dissidents into "Superman Robots".

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I like the idea of them all becoming friends

I would be interested in a Overman story.

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Overman left earth in the new Freedom Fighter comic.

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>Bizzarro
>not evil

No

Manhunter was already based off horror of his era

>Manhunter was already based off horror of his era
Huh? He wasn't an evil alien though. I thought he was based on John Carter green Martians.

No, it's more sci-fi plus detective stuff.

No school like the old school.

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I love Golden Age covers.

Evil manhunter was done in Joe Kelly's JLA way back in like 2003, I think its called Trial by Fire. It was pretty good imo though it works best if you read the Obsidian Age before it as you get some context

Oh, that's where they explained that the Guardians separated Manhunters species right and weakness to fire?

Yeah thats the big place where it happened, I personally really liked it and it gave a good explanation for something that was originally just a given like the whole Parralax answer to a Lanterns weakness to the color yellow

You don't make evil Flash, you make evil Barry Allen. A corrupt forensic scientist who falsifies data, hides evidence, and uses his superspeed to violate the rights and due process of suspects in order to fit his own personal beliefs of guilt and innocence. Imagine being arrested for a crime and the one guy who can concretely prove your innocence already thinks you are guilty and will make the evidence match.

Oh, now that would be cool.
Why don't evil versions of characters use mystery anymore? They always act like a bunch of idiots.

semi unrelated question: what is worth reading of superboy prime? I know nothing of the character aside at some point he gets banished on our earth

You're not fooling anyone Luthor

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Could any of the evil Superman clones beat Superman in a fight?

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No because Clark fighting for other's sake will always make him stronger then those that just fight for their own.

Why is it never evil Batman?

Nobody knows how to make a genuinely evil Batman.

Does flashpoint Thomas Wayne count

Batman is already evil so there's no point.

See

I liked this but it really shouldn't have been the last episode

I really enjoyed Invincible's interpretation of this concept.

Because that's not as interesting as you think it would be. Wonder Woman asks him nicely to stop, and when he refuses, she slaps him upside his head and tosses him in a cell.

Windy doesn't have a kryptonite that Batman can pull out of his ass, so he's pretty much helpless against her.

Batman can easily stop Wonder Woman will a magical weapon he pulled out of his ass, like he did in Scott Snyder's Endgame. If anything, the real reason Batman wouldn't do anything against her is because he's a huge pussy.

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Is Super-Boy Prime evil?

Nah, he’s basically Yea Forums unless of course you consider Yea Forums evil.

Based Diana putting Bat-douche in his place.

Also, the Bind of Veils was indeed a blatant asspull. Every other time the two have fought, it wasn't even a contest.

Batman just gets off on being dominated by her, he could easily win otherwise.

>Super-girl and Superhorse
I want to see that doujin.

>tfw it was a set up for an Earth-3 series of films by DC all along

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3 Million on Opening day, but it did cost only 6 million to make so who knows

That didn't happen in Countdown: Arena? Wasted opportunity.

Mainly because they didn't know what Overman was going to be like yet. They created a character like Overman during Countdown:

dc.fandom.com/wiki/Superman_(Earth-10)

But he was nothing like the Overman that eventually showed up in Final Crisis and Multiversity.