>Average budget of one "The Legend of Korra" episode by Studio Mir: US $200,000-300,000 for episodes in Books 1-3; US $90,000 for Book 4 episodes which are 100% Mir.
>Average budget of an late night 13-episode anime season: US $2 Million.
How the fuck can that be? Why is no one catching up to Korra besides Mir themselves? The cost of Book 4 is low enough to do this so why no catch up?
Besides Castlevania:TAS and New Looney Tunes Mark 2 of course.
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Why no rich Korrafag has paid for another season of the show?
Nick won't take the money.
Crowdfunding is the future of television. You cut out the middle man and pick what you want to watch. But the main drawback is credibility. You have to have produced something first to be credible and most people are going to go for the perceived safer option, working in the mainstream industry.
>Crowdfunding is the future of television.
And streaming, don't forget about streaming.
Those numbers cannot be right. The cost of a half hour long episode in the US started at $500,000 in 2011, and Korra has far better production quality than most shows and employed an elite studio.
Korra was made on the cheap
Those are live action shows when they have to pay live actors for their performance on a stage, stunts also costs extra as well.
This will explain everything as of late.
Yeah, how? Elite studio, way better production quality than usual--somehow significantly cheaper than the competition. $90,000 per episode is especially ludicrous, you can't even do episodes that cheaply in Japan.
I am talking about animation.
>Yeah, how?
By using a budget properly and not wasting it on bloated pay checks, drugs, plane trips to another country and parties.
>You can't even do episodes that cheaply in Japan.
Korea costs less.
>I am talking about animation.
Cartoons only cost that much when we were still outsourcing to Japan in the 80s & 90s, once we made the jump to Korea and stock midi soundtracks for every episode (replacing the rich orchestrated soundtrack made just for that episode before the switch) the cost dropped like a rock.
The 2008 economy collapse also helped cut costs.
Using it so properly that a high production quality American show outsourcing its work to a high-end Korean studio somehow has budgets on par with or below anime? That's not possible.
>Korea costs less.
American shows have by far higher budgets.
>Cartoons only cost that much when we were still outsourcing to Japan in the 80s & 90s,
I am talking about the recent past/present, not the 90s or earlier.
That's unfair. Japs working in the animation industry are basically slaves.
Theres (much) higher end studios in Korea then Mir but they only do feature work.
Also once you get passed the detail they're barely any better then Rough Draft in terms of animation.
>American shows have by far higher budgets.
Before the economy collapse, after it did it networks stopped pissing away their budgets.
>I am talking about the recent past/present, not the 90s or earlier.
>>Fox sitcom spent on bloated VAs and royalty checks to companies like Warner Bros.
DCG show thats animated in Canada or is kept in the States.
Those are the exceptions not the rule, the rule is everything stays under $130,000 for every 11 minutes.
No, they are not. Slavery is illegal in Japan. There are no slaves in the anime industry. People work there voluntarily. And American shows are animated in Korea, but how much do you know about the pay and working conditions there?
Also those numbers in the image are nonsense.
>Before the economy collapse, after it did it networks stopped pissing away their budgets.
The budgets are still higher.
>Fox sitcom spent on bloated VAs and royalty checks to companies like Warner Bros.
I am not talking about Family Guy or Simpsons.
>the rule is everything stays under $130,000 for every 11 minutes.
That's way too low.
Korea is much worse, it's to the point that they use loop holes in labor laws to use save labor to keep the budgets down as low as they can go without the American/Japanese studios jump ship to Vietnam where it's even cheaper then Korea and the labor laws are even looser then they are in Korea.
>No, they are not. Slavery is illegal in Japan. There are no slaves in the anime industry. People work there voluntarily.
>The budgets are still higher.
No, they got lower after Chowder & Flapjack (the last shows CN was pissing away money before the economy collapsed) and now they can't go over $130,000 per 11 minutes, why do you think Disney doesn't do the same animation quality now of days with Owl House & Amphibia compared to when they were outsourcing to Japan & Australia, it's because they can't spend $500,000 per 22 minutes anymore, let alone 11 minutes.
>I am not talking about Family Guy or Simpsons.
Those are the only shows now of days to go over 260,000 per 22 minutes a episode besides 3DCG shows.
3DCG shows will make sense at $500,000, but only if they're being done in Korea as Canada/The US will range at $800,000-1 million a episode.
India would be even cheaper then that.
>That's way too low.
Thats if they're lucky, remember, Voltron:LD was only $90,000 a episode and it get as much as it could.
Remember, Korea made animation become as cheap as it is.
What is your source for these numbers? Every number I've been able to find says that $130k per 11 minutes is wildly unrealistic in America.
>Voltron:LD was only $90,000 a episode
No it wasn't.
Yes, it was, most of it's team came from Korra and they knew how to handle such a low budget after working on Book 4.
At $2 million dollars not only that everything would of been kept in the States but everything would of been done on 1s as well, only lowing the frame rate if the timing demands it.
$90k is not possible for a show like Voltron produced in America.
>At $2 million dollars not only that everything would of been kept in the States but everything would of been done on 1s as well
No.
It's possible if you use Korea for your animation.
Yes.
Korea is used for practically every production and you have no sources for any of these wild bullshit claims.
The budgets were brought up here before.
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That's just repeating your claim and has no sources.
I didn't make that post on Desuarchive.
Ok, let's say you didn't. It still has no sources.
Congratulations, you fell for somebody pulling numbers out of their ass that contradict actual quoted figures given by people in the industry. That's how they're possible: they aren't.
Nah, Japs working in animation are blue collar workers being played illegal immigration wages.
Koreans are literally wage slaves.
Correction, you fell for some autist repeating the same stupid bullshit in every single thread because he's incapable of comprehending that not everything written on the internet is true and that people can be wrong.
absolutely nobody wants that abomination of a series to return
not after that dogshit ending
How'd AT look so much better on a smaller budget?
They were posted on here more then once.
Those numbers originated from people in the industry as they were originally posted on Toon Zone many years back.
Korra did not cost $1.6 million dollars a episode, if it did it would of been 100% done in the States by Titmouse and everything would of been animated by 1s (unless the timing demands otherwise).
The fact that the show is lucky to be animated on 3s and that the show is animated in Korea is why Korra is as cheap as it is.
The budgets are right as they been posted on here before.
Skill and it's per 11 minutes.
>AT
>look better
Time to clean your monitor. And it actually had a much bigger budget.
To be fare $89,000 11 minute shorts X 2 = $178,000 22 minute episode.
It did not cost $89 thousand per episode.
You are both right. Korea has slaves but I still say that it's unfair to compare cartoon western budgets to the japanese anime, for both parts actually.
It's $89,000 per 11 minute short, a whole 22 minute episode (AT uses 2 11 shorts) is $178,000 per episode.
Post sources.
See
There are no sources there. Maybe you should just not post anymore.
Yes they are, it's in the picture and it's been posted here before.
>It's been posted before so it's true
More then once really.
My monitor is clean and full HD, AT is the better looking show
>that makes it true
So you really don't have a source do you?
The picture claims certain budgets. It does not provide any sources. Stop.
By what possible metric? You're either desperate or have no visual sense whatsoever.
Toon Zone, I got it from Toon Zone's forums many years ago, as it's clear as Crystal fuck that Korra does not cost $1.6 million a episode, it's doesn't even look like it spent alot of money, if anything it looks cheep and $200,000-300,000 a episode falls under what the show looks like.
Yes it does, the picture is the source as it got it's source from posts made here in the past about it's budget.
Ok, have fun with your mental illness.
Theres no mental illness here, only hard facts.
They should have spent more on Korra's abs.