BENFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>Superman fights
Ackshually, Superman did this and that and is therefore the strongest person in existence.
>Flash fights
NO NO NO, Flash is actually the strongest person
>Shazam fights
Just look at this feat, DC's strongest hero is Shazam!
>Green Lantern fights
GL is stronger than a universe buster and therefore the strongest!
>All those heroes get defeated by a normal guy every other day
This shit is why everyone calls DC a joke, except for Batman, the only guy who actually loses, and is the only one people actually give a shit about.

>except for Batman
why are you ignoring Batwank

Didn't Feedback absorb an entire universe destroying attack by itself? And it's not even close to being anywhere near Ben's strongest alien, Hal's constructs are all energy, Ben could absorb them easily, not to mention Hal could never damage Alien X.

Just downplaying it, I won't ignore the bullshit surrounding his "prep time" nonsense. Shit like this is why no one likes DC anymore.

I don't agree with batman he has wank to.
Witch makes me think who the fuck is the strongest heroes, ofcourse superman, but everyone seem to be over some level of infinite energy and power feats like the fuck?

In death battles that alternate timeline stuff is irrelevant to the fight because this fight takes place in a neutral setting.

a lot of people don't know shit about GL, I don't know who is actually stronger but GL isn't that weak

Feedback absorbed the fucking Anihilaarg (the canon device that can destroy the entire universe) and then shot it's energy back at Maltruant.

And that's not the only alien that can absorb energy either. Chromastone could probably wipe the floor with Hal

Graveyards have crosses. What's wrong with it?

>this asshurt
Stay mad faggot.

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na it's just that Marvel has the MCU which has gotten the attention of all the normies. At least DC still has better cartoons

Feed back can absorb energy but can have its head blown up

Would Hal make a good wife or would she be a trainwreck?

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Nigga have you seen their latest movies?
Only a hand full of them are any good. Still better than marvel which has none

Something something willpower brings are not technology.
Did you know that whenever a character defeats a representation of its power source its actually more dumb and impossible than most dumb comics shit

I haven't watched a DC movie since TDK
haven't seen a marvel movie since Thor 2

>crucifying Hulk
It's sacriligious shit.

Female Hal would be Carol Danvers

If that was case, how is hal still existing? He killed the reason to why he went back in time?

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See

who dis?

It's easy, there's only one timeline that's it.

What?

Yes but that just means that time travel to defeat Ben would not be valid because the Ben whoxwas fighting never actually lost. Once Hal goes back, he'd just find Alien X still there, without a single scratch.

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He created a time paradox.

If they want to use more cartoon characters my choice would be The Warden from Superjail VS Rick from Rick and Morty

No, it's really easy, if there's only one timeline timetravel is easy as shit.

Nice derailment Ben10fag.

No paradox because the ring protects Hal from paradoxes and also because it's just one timeline.

Not in Ben 10 universe, time travel creates alternate timelines in that. Not to mention, Alien X exists outside of space and time.

>Nice derailment Ben10fag.
Damn, user... It's just a cross. Are you a vampire? God fucking damn it never seen anyone react like this to a cross.

This fight is in a neutral setting, no alternate timelines.

That's on you.

>No paradox because the ring protects Hal from paradoxes

In what issue?

COIE.

That's true when the anihilarg destroyed Ben's original universe spacetime was destroyed and didn't get affected also the forge of creation is outside of everything else in the multiverse. If I remember correctly Paradox created a time bubble for them to work in there, there weren't even breathing ot whatnot

You gotta admit death battle has a DC bias. Has there ever been a fight where a DC character lost? I honestly can't think of one.

The thread was just about to die and you just have to revive it huh? It seems like you Halfags didn't learn your lesson.

>Hal at his most powerful is only multiversal
DIALS? Dial go up to omniversal baby. Multiversal is baby shit.

>time travel
Alien X has full control of time also sotobro BRO.

>speedforce singularity
It took him some time to get to that speed and even then he can't maintain it

>nekron
Facet of death meaning not the ultimate form of death. Death the endless is The Death.

>cut off arm
Failsafe is faster and the failsafe would also work even after the arm was cut off.

Don't @ me losers.

Let’s see
Batman (twice)
Wonder Woman
Bane
Lex luthor
Deathstroke
Probably another fucker I’m missing

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Rogue vs Wonder Woman, Batman vs Spiderman and Batman vs Black Panther, and Venom vs Bane off the top of my head.

Remember when Batman lost and Death Battle was accused of having a Marvel bias? Good times...

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I honestly feel like the salt from this will top Goku Vs Superman.

>That's on you.
Straight up a religious reference in Hulk: the end.

But it's ok here I guess

(it's also my favorite issue of The Hulk btw)

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Shit I remember how dc characters used to be loosing to marvel earlier

>Lex Luther
>Bane
What were they """""thinking"""""" these guys didn't stand a chance against their opponents.

>Wonder Woman vs. Rogue
>Batman vs. Black Panther
>Batman vs. Spider-Man
>Bane vs. Venom
>Lex Luthor vs. Iron Man
>Deathstroke vs. Deadpool
Just at the top of my head

tldr me on how Hal won

Lex Luthor was actually kinda better than Tony. The guy fought Larfleeze and the like. It was an even match and could have gone either way.

>O
>MY
>TIME TRAVEL
You can argue all you want about who deserved to win, but that finish was still garbage.

OK and?

Benfags are shit. You are a faggot for thinking otherwise.

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he REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted to not die

I'm glad GL won, though honestly when was the last time he actually used Silver Age powers like time traveling.

Time Travel and cut off his arm.

Considering they were using Pre-Crisis Hal Jordan, he should have just beaten Alien X. Pre-Crisis Hal Jordan is almost as fast as Pre-Crisis Superman, who’s so fast he once flew to the Andromeda Galaxy in a Nanosecond

Who can Time Travel faster?

did they measure Time travel speed? why didn't Alien X chase Hal into the past

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Lex Luthor wishes he can create a power armor rivaling that of Tony's. Only reason Lex is even capable of holding his own against Superman is because Superman is holding back and Lex is exploiting his weaknesses. And even then, Lex still loses. Talk about pathetic. Even Batman manages to win sometimes and he is half the genius that Lex is.

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Alien X should be, since he was the first one that used time manipulation first.

When are they going to stop the capeshit wank and start using characters that really deserve more exposure?

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It is bad to called it bad writing?

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This makes Martian Manhunter the only hero that was part of the original Justice League to not have a win in Death Battle yet, and I am 99% sure they will feed Piccolo to him and give the Justice League the clean sweep.

lmao yeah I can see them do that

Does Martian Manhunter have any weaknesses, I know he used to be weak to fire until he remembered he's invulnerable to fire and all the damage was self inflicted

J'onn attempts to read Piccolo's mind but is overwhelmed by the 3 minds that exists inside Piccolo. J'onn faints afterward.

>Piccolo
Poor poor DBZfags

Sentry could be a good match up. Or Ultron.

Hal is faster than Alien X, so he should Time Travel faster.

Reminder that they’re using Silver Age + Post-Crisis Hal Jordan

Give me the best speed feat you can for Hal please.

There not going to do another Dc vs DB matchup after the shitshow that Goku vs Superman
Not to mention how pointless the matchup is

Hal Jordan is said to near Speedforce fast. Hal Jordan was shown capable of keeping up with Lightray, the a New God that can move faster than the speed of light.

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nah just means you're a whiny bitch.

>oh no! A paradox
>don't worry, let me avoid time itself.

Kyle's done it post-crisis.

Yeah but Alien X is omnipotent. How can you go faster than that?

I am not whiny, I just find it funny that DC writers pull a superman.

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According to the writer it isn't.

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What Death Battle would cause more salt than this one?

Maybe if Superman beats Goku again but I'm not even sure.

>Omnipotent
>Can't survive Anur Vladias
>Can be harmed by Celestialsapiens
>Can have its powers absorbed
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

How do you rewrite an universe if you're not omnipotent? The universe is really fucking huge

Bad writing, like any time something is supposed to be omnipotent.

By being very very very very VERY VERY powerful.

Being able to manipulate reality doesn't mean you're omnipotent. Fucking Knuckles could do it in the Sonic comics and nobody claims he's omnipotent.

I expected Hal to win but the battle was shit.

Kys self inserting Benfags

Personally nothing's made me madder than them giving Tracer a win over Scout. Pure waifufaggotry.

>God made an universe in 7 days
>The Bible is full of bad writting, God isnt really omnipotent
This is the state of you guys right now

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You don't need to be omnipotent to be capable of that feat, just ridiculously powerful. Legion did it and wasn't omnipotent. Scarlet Witch did it and wasn't omnipotent. Franklin Richards did it and wasn't omnipotent. Dormammu did it and wasn't omnipotent.

powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Reality_Warping

>How can you go faster than that?
it's willpower i ain't gotta explain shit

IMO a peak GL beats out Superman, he's just made more relevant via plot.

But they misunderstood the failsafe and how Alien X functions. Alien X deciding Hal ceases to exist is not equivalent to the Anti Monitor devouring a universe. It happens and Hal is gone. I honestly thought they were going to opt for Parallax Hal or something to make it more interesting, but they just misunderstood the material that much. As for the failsafe, you can't just cut off Ben's arm or Vilgax would opt for that. Vilgax notes that the Omnitrix already "merged with his DNA" and puts Ben into a device designed for negating/extracting/containing the Omnitrix during the process.

Except days didn't exist when he made it you moron, it's a literary device. To us God is omnipotent because he's responsible for everything we can even conceive of. That's not true of Alien X.

I hope we get a line of DC/Cartoon Network crossover comics like the Hanna-Barbera and Looney Tunes ones so they can address that match-up.

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>a peak GL beats out Superman
The OG GL Alan Scott is a magic man of willpower and could conceivably take out most of the Justice League.

Nah it should be Professor Xavier so they can just got AAAUUGHHHH for the whole battle.

That'd be too fun for current DC.

Goku vs. Superman is ambiguous powerscaling. This one straight up ignored facts because they didn't bother researching.

How is he not responsible for everything if he made the universe? He's responsible for every single atom in it.

If Hal was in said universe, Ben would be responsible for his creation too.

Most characters can do that with the right plot armor. Even an idiot like Vandal Savage nearly did that.

Why are you bringing up a religious text as if that's relevant? God being omnipotent (as in "could do anything") is something debated among philosophers anyway. Some claim that God can do anything that is logically possible, but not literally anything.

DC does fun things all the time

I'm just someone trying to understand.

Heroes in Crisis sure is fun!

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Not right now

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Not everything involving DC characters are heroes in crisis

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Considering how wrong DB is sometimes I agree with every one of those results.

Expecting anything from the same guys that had Yang beat Tifa and the travesty that is Tracer vs Scout

Don't forget Toph vs Gaara.

Gaara is so above her league its not even funny. And somehow he lost. Ok

Hal should’ve just killed Alien X as is

Rate best to worst wife. Not waifus, actual wives.

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I think whenever they don't know one character that well they've already decided on winner so they try funneling that information into a predetermined conclusion. For Ben vs. Hal they tried funneling Alien X into the role of a brawler with some reality warping capabilities. Anti Monitor was not consciously deciding that a GL would cease to exist and that GL negated it, it was a universal attack. They drew a false comparison.

Gaara versus Toph really threw me off because Toph is a master in a much weaker world while Gaara is strong in a ridiculously powercreeped universe.

There are some like Rogue vs. Wonder Woman where I can accept their logic somewhat and I get that it's subjective, but misrepresentations and misunderstandings like in this one are stupid. I suddenly agree with a gigantic essay I saw explaining why Bowser would beat Ganondorf.

>He’s STILL seething over his waifu losing

Go commission some more revenge art why don’t you

Avatar fans made them a custom sprite for Toph apparently, there was no way she was going to lose.

I fucking wish those mother fuckers gave Gaara Crocodile instead. I wouldn't even mind to see Gaara lose to Crocodile, it would be much more fair than see a borderline human level character do so.

isn't scott alan gay tho

>people care about the death battle results
How does it feel to have other people think for you

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>Ben constantly gets his ass handed to him by street levels
His entire hype comes from that one form he hardly ever uses where he pulls GORILLION LEVEL OMNIVERSAL FEATS

Is a man that fires a gun as fast as a speeding bullet? Think that, but Ben also has to at the very least say hi to the two heads before he does anything.

Plus we see them remake the universe by shooting galaxies like fireworks. Impressive, but not as impressive as Jordan's speed feats.

That's because the enemies that fight them typically come in with a plan tailor made to counter the heroes. Ras Al Ghul is just as dangerous to Superman with kryptonite as he would be to Alien X with a superscience Celestialsapien power drainer device.

This. Hal was always able to put a whuppin on Clark. He recently beat up Zod while he was amped by two suns.

Absolute trainwreck whore. Jordan is a weirdo with incurable restlessness that bounces from job to job.

>Feedback containing the big bang and Alien X making a universe
SUGOI BEN SAMA! ABSOLUTELY BASED

>His opponent outdoes him
WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS ACTUALLY MORE DUMB AND IMPOSSIBLE THAN MOST DUMB COMICS SHIT

Are Benfaggots turning into the new Gokufaggots?

It's up
youtu.be/mDlKhhjKoJI

they dont talk much about it, they gonnawait until next week

>Is a man that fires a gun as fast as a speeding bullet?
If the man is rewriting the bullet, the gun and the speed trajectory of the bullet? Yes he's actually much faster actually.

Faster and he's harmed beings on the scale of Alien X before.

They didn't even get to how he could just DNA fuck Alien X since it SOMEHOW has DNA. Just very powerful DNA.

That's Earth-2.

>Hawkeye vs Green Arrow

>Tracer vs Scout
Most DBs I could not give a fuck about but them doing my boy Scout dirty because they touch themselves to Tracer's accent pisses me off.

>Better fights than Piccolo

>Captain Planet
War of Worlds

>Professor X
Telepath fight

>Ultraseven
Both are aliens who adopt a shapeshift disguise after a human they respect. Plus Seven is more of the face of the Ultra franchise than OG Ultraman.

After Fernus he's weak to fire ONLY if it has some kind of emotional backing to it, like the fires started by a mad arsonist.

This breaks the back of Benfaggots and makes them humble.

THIS THIS THIS

so that's a yes then

Superman vs Goku 3

Something that kills a magical girl.

Something that kills a BNHA character.

Red Skull with the cosmic cube could do that but he isn't "omnipotent" because if you shoot the fucker in the face while he's gloating he just dies.

No, since that's an alternate Alan Scott to the OG one I was talking about.

That's like going to a Superman thread and asking why he isn't a Soviet in every comic.

>they dislike GL
>they think hal beats ben
my antithesis

The Starheart is literally 99 percent of chaos magic in the universe trapped by the guardians and put into a ball.

People that think Hal is OP should see Alan.

so that's a no then
got it

give me a timestamp when they talk about the comments

I think we've learnt from Tracer/Scout and Gaara/Toph that something that kills any girl is unlikely to happen.

>Alien X deciding Hal ceases to exist is not equal to Anti Matter destroying a universe
And how is it not?

You're right. They low balled Hal.

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>Hal gets his Pre-Crisis power level
>Ben is nerfed to his retard 10 year old version
They didn’t even mention Ghostfreak or Toepick as fear counters wtf

>Specter deletes beings from reality
>Old Parallax Hal kicked Specter's ass
>New and improved Parallax Sinestro with a boost from a fear engine loses to Current Hal

How are you not getting this?

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>fear counters
MOTHERFUCKER HE IS PARALLAX

because the anti-monitor has able to destroy a near infinite number of universes while alien x has only shown universal feats.

Fuck the feats and who should've won, The battle sucked ass, didn't get to see Ben use his ingenuity with aliens and we didn't get to see Hal push himself past his limits.
>Would Ben have tried something tricky with all the strange powers and crazy experiences over the years?
>Would Hal be on the ropes and use his insane amounts of willpower to go beyond his limits?
>NOPE TIME TRAVEL LMAO
With that stupid shit you could easily just flip it and have Ben win in the exact same way by going back to the start of the fight and suckerpunching Hal

Alan doesn't need plot armour though. He has enough raw power to do it without Tower of Babel level plot.

Thanks for admiting ring that the Alien X equals to some of the most powerful artifacts in the Marvel universe.

Also no, a gun wouldn't kill a being that is universal+

>The white walls are constantly described in COIE as erasing whatever they touch from reality
>The universes swallowed by them aren't just hollowed out, they're GONE.
>I-It's not reality erasure

Bitch please.

"H-Hero Time..."

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10 Year old Ben has more available sprites, they didn't actually use him for anything other than the animation.

>They dislike GL
What did they say?

>He doesn't know Kyle literally used a cosmic cube to power his ring in Avengers/JLA and compared it to a lantern

How does it feel knowing the cosmic cube equals one lantern?

Why didn't he just use upgrade to go into the ring?

Anti-Monitor is using ultimately physical/magical acts and eating/absorbing the universes or whatever. When Alien X decides something happens it is enacted. Lanterns were tanking attacks that weren't some sort of sentient omega beam with a living purpose to end the target.

Hal fought the embodiment of Fear itself what part of that do you faggots don’t understand?

The ring is made of Willpower not tech at least I'm pretty sure that's the case for Hal at this point.

Someone needs to edit in a little Ben or Alien X.

"I'm sorry lol, I created you and the universe, but I'm not omnipotent"

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>Anti-Monitor erases things from existence
>Alien X erases things from existence
...Yes?

The attosecond he turns into something not Alien X he's taking a bolt of anti-matter to the face.

It is possible to have creation power and nothing else. Plus Biblical god was far from infallible. Dude got wrecked by chariots and wrestled into submission by a man.

They think that their conclusion that Hal beats Ben actually means that DC gives characters crazy feats through bad writing. So not only did they misunderstand Alien X, but Hal. They misrepresent Hal "outwilling" all willpower. They're the ones giving Hal time travel where he doesn't lose his memory and other headcanon nonsense, but that's apparently DC's fault.

Then they make an offhand remark about the emotional color spectrum being stupid, and they all agree that they've never been into the GL universe for being too convoluted.

i swear people just through the word omnipotent around too casually.

What did they say exactly?

I don't get why people keep bringing up Hal's speed feats. Speed doesn't matter to a being that is literally above time

>actually means that DC gives characters crazy feats through bad writing
... But Alien X's huge inconsistencies are even more obvious in this video.

>Time Travel where he loses his memory
Didn't that only happen when he was brought forward in time and given a false identity?

>Above time
>Gets hurt by other Celestialsapiens that exist in time
>Have discussions in real time internally
Are you retarded.

>...Yes?
You already got the explanation. AM isn't on X's level because it can be resisted by lesser beings. Alien X says let there be light, and there is light. Someone not on X's level says there will be light, and projects a yellow ball to a set area and then it begins to radiate light. In the meantime people can do things to stop this ball from reaching its destination and creating light.

People who aren't familiar with Alien X interpret it as an act on par with Anti Monitor, and therefore Hal can slow it down, outwill it, negate it, etc. He can't.

>Crazy feats through bad writing
>"So this is Alien X he can do anything"
It's clear they're trying to sound nice for the Ben crowd.

What did they find stupid about the emotional color spectrum?

Except if Alien X said something like "Let's go to Anur Vladias" he'd kill himself.

Toepick isn't even as powerful as you make it to be, if fucking Ma Vreedle can stand his face because "she's seen worse" Hal sure as hell can.

Since they are dumb enough to think the GL universe is too complicated to get into I'm going to assume they don't understand how anything works.

>Laddercuck mad his heroes suck

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>It can be resisted by lesser beings
You mean like Celestialsapiens who lose to black holes, can't step on a death planet or they DIE, can get their powers stolen in baby form, and are known to sometimes just stand still for aeons?

Those guys that are "so above and beyond the universe?"

>And projects a yellow ball to set the area alight
That's how Alien X rebuilt the universe. It shot balls that exploded into galaxies like fireworks.

based retard

wait are you seriously arguing that alien x is stronger than the anti-monitor.

Alien X isn’t above time so much as he can manipulate it. So can Green Lantern. But Green Lantern has better speed feats as it is.

Sonic should have kicked Mario's ass in the rematch

>Hal shoots a teleporation beam leading to Anur Vladias
>Alien X dies
>"Wow that was really easy!"

hamboigahs

>Didn't that only happen when he was brought forward in time and given a false identity?
Yeah that was what I was thinking about, but does he will himself back in time before? I was giving them the benefit of the doubt because I couldn't remember, but if they concluded that Hal can do that from that example it's even worse than I remembered.

Huh? Alien X is generally sound in depiction.

One discrepancy is that Celestialsapiens have two personalities that have to agree. Ben is the third personality, reason, for Alien X. In UAF he only had to make Bellicus or Serena agree with him for an action, majority rule. Consequently Serena and Bellicus could do something Ben doesn't like if they both agreed. In OV all three personalities have to agree for everything.

How the fuck does WW lose against Rogue?

They are indeed better than smoothies.

>AM isn't on X's level because it can be resisted by lesser beings.
You mean like how he couldn’t stop the bomb from destroying the universe, but rather rebuild one out of thin air?

He’s not omnipotent, and AntiMoniter has done the same shit as that bomb but on a Multiversal scale.

it was one of their earliest fights and they decided that since wondy has so much exposed skin rouge can just death-touch her

Alien X>Other celestialsapiens

It was the 3rd DB they ever did, and because WW shows so much skin they reasoned it wouldn't be impossible for Rogue to touch her at some point.

>they decided that since wondy has so much exposed skin rouge can just death-touch her
This is making me irrationally angry.

Yeah that's another big red flag.
Spooky face literally said it was "too infinite" to stop.

But MOA said X is weaker than other celestialsapiens due to having human DNA.

That's irrelevant. They're still covered by the term celestialsapien.

They thought it was a smart observation.

I want to hug female Baz and talk about cars with her for hours.

desu Wonder Woman should have beaten Rogue and lost to Thor.

For you and every casual bringing up the Anur Vladis, it's compared to anti-life. Keep in mind what anti-life does to Darkseid, someone battling Anti Monitor. On the other hand, a Celestialsapien can consciously avoid these instances if it's agreed and Alien X recreated Anur Vladis on its own.

If you wanted a balanced fight, pic related is a DC tier that could probably hurt Alien X by nature of anti-life. But it comes down to whether Alien X would agree to wipe Death Flash or if it runs straight through Alien X before that happens. I give the fight to Flash more times than not.

Yes.

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>It is possible to have creation power and nothing else
Alien X can rewrite the entire universe as many times as it wants.

Just deal with it

>Ben 10? DIALS GO UP TO 11!

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>can rewrite the entire universe as many times as it wants
>Can't go to a place it created
>Can't stop a bomb

Oh no we're stuck in an infinite loop of shit writing.

>But MOA said X is weaker than other celestialsapiens due to having human DNA.
They're discussing omniscience in the question. Ben isn't omniscient so Alien X is not omniscient.

Alien X is a genetic prime Celestialsapien. They mention Celestialsapiens agreeing to avoid universes being wiped and the such, but Alien X just stands through it. Either that wasn't powerful enough to hurt any Celestialsapien or Alien X comes with greater protection than the average Celestialsapien.

>But MOA said X is weaker than other celestialsapiens due to having human DNA.
But he clearly has defeated a full Celestiansapien with uter ease.

>downplaying Batwank
This is why I don’t take most of you fuckers seriously. It’s all unfair until it’s your favorite doing it.

That makes zero sense, DC’s Anti-Life is explicitly not death, it’s control over you

That's because Ben isn't in Alien X form every time.

They said he was not omnipotent, but neither is Alien X
More celestial sapiens are just really crazy high end reality warpers, with Alien X being a better version of them

Doesn’t mean he’s omnipotent. Hell. It doesn’t mean he’s Multiversal, either. Most Pre-Crisis Justice Leaguers can probably beat him

It's quite an experience having a very long lived comic book character be less inconsistently written than his opponent.

Anti-life isn't actually a death force you stupid casual.

I wish there was a better quality version of this image.

He was losing until he got the idea to strain the gladiator's attention by cloning himself.

Loving every seethe

What a good day, DC victories bring out the most delicious salt

the anti-monitor retconned the multiverse.
the anti-monitor fought the spectre.
the anti-monitor knocks Alien X's teeth and skullfucks him to death. an army of celestialsapiens couldn't do shit to the anti-monitor.

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>Fights Krona with seven times the power necessary to destroy and recreate the universe
>UGGHHHH BEWARE MY POWER
>Hal kills him

>Fights Sinestro with 1000(!) times the power necessary to destroy and recreate the universe due to hooking Parallax up to a planet full of people trapped in terror VR
>UGHHHH BEWARE MY POWER
>Defeats Parllax and Sinestro, Hal survives partially as a soul bound to his own ring

>Dies and becomes a Black Lantern, unleashes Nekron from his tomb
>UGHNNNNN BEWARE MY POWER
>Nekron becomes his pokemon slave

>Fights himself back when he has the power to destroy and recreate the universe as Parallax Hal
>UNGHHHHH BEWARE MY POWER
>Stalemate

>Fights General Zod fresh off of kicking Clark "Lifted Infinity and Flexed Against Reality" Kent's ass
>Zod is amped by two yellow suns
>UGGNNNGGGH BEWARE MY POWER
>Hal drives the speed force jet up Zod's ass and wins

ARE YOU STARTING TO SEE A PATTERN BENFAGGOTS?

Any time a cartoonfag loses it's great.

Other way around, you're misunderstanding Anur Vladis. You learned about Ben 10 lore only after the death battle, little comicsual boy.

So he did won against a full Celestiasapien? So, what does that mean?

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I love how you tards complain about DC characters being overpowered, yet you still root for guys like Goku and Ben 10 for being the EXACT same all the while

Dude, this is only time a cartoon of origin character has lost a match aside from Horse.
(Transformers, Bucky O' Hare, etc began as comics as well)

I wasn't talking about Death Battle.

Why the fuck are you bringing that guy into this? This is going to be the last DB they'll ever make, TOAA vs the Specter, just watch.

No DC casuals on the podcast video, and the average viewer has now been educated on Alien X. The dislikes are eating it up.

Whoever is more creative will win their fights. The creators mentioned power levels but it's never shown how significantly stronger a Celestialsapien can be than another.

that it with utter ease?

They said it'll be Wizard vs Boomstick likely to kill off both characters
The match before that will be Disney Princess Battle Royale the Musical

Why type out such a long long post when all you really meant to do was cry and seethe?

Alien X could do that in an instant with one thought(or two depending).
Alien X could wipe Spectre with a thought.
If Alien X agreed, they'd all cease to exist.

>Why the fuck are you bringing that guy into this?
because the benfag was seriously arguing that alien x is stronger than the anti-monitor.

If you're this casual when it comes to comics why are you in this discussion.

Yeah Thor 2bpretty much killed my interest in the MCU

>Benfags vs HEATfags
So begins the biggest salt war since Goku vs Superman
It wasn't Naruto vs Ichigo
It wasn't Mario vs Sonic 2
It wasn't Thanos vs Darkseid
It was Ben vs Hal of all things
A match they didn't even deem season finale material

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You're trying to discuss a character you didn't know about beforehand. GLs surviving Anti-Monitor attacks doesn't mean they could resist Alien X, it means he's a joke to Alien X.

Anti-Monitor works and destroys on a multiversal scale. Alien X works on a single universe scale. Alien X is a joke to AM.

It's that simple.

Naruto deserved to win
Mario should have lost
Darkseid roflstomps Thanos. The people who say otherwise only watch muh MCU.

Wondie should have toasted both

>Death Battle has resurrected HEAT into power level discussion
Ben should've won

I didn't even know benfags exsisted past jr. High, turns out there are a ton of them and they'll all trash

show us a single example that proves alien x is capable of destroying an infinite number of universes.

Bleachfags aren't really a thing anymore. It's the Narutofags that we're out looking for blood but DB threw them a bone.

>>Ben is nerfed to his retard 10 year old version
No, he's not. This is composite Ben but using the OG Ben sprite.

Wow you've never read a comic book have you?

Would Alien X beat Suggsverse?

Reminder Simon could kill both

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AAAAUUUUGGHH
AUUUUGHH
and then MM slowly makes his way across the room, hands on head trying to contain the AAAUUUGH and just punches Xavier into paste

Best post in this thread.

Has HEAT been revived everywhere else or is it just Yea Forums?

It takes two thoughts. One to agree to become omnipotent. Another to agree to wipe everything from existence. The creators already addressed this, with the caveat that other Celestialsapiens wouldn't allow that. Ergo, in these out of universe fights where Alien X is presumably the sole Celestialsapien it's actually even stronger and can become omnipotent without issue.

A Celestialsapien never became omnipotent in the show for obvious reasons, but it's confirmed possible. They primarily deal with one main universe for OS-OV, though Alien X recreated it once.

now that you say that a castlevania related death battle would actually be cool.

He defeated another Celestiansapien. A true omnipotent being according to the authors of this shit

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>No DC casuals on the podcast video
What does this mean?

Belmont Battle Royale would be dope

>with the caveat that other Celestialsapiens wouldn't allow that
>Someone being allowed to stop you doing something
>One sentence later you use the word omnipotent again
How do I mute people on Yea Forums.

I think he means the Q&A they do after every match

Hell yeah, who would be a good character to put up against a Belmont?
This would be based

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Wait until they bring in a BNH character in to get killed. People are going to cry buckets when they sac All Might to someone from the JSA.

The redo Yang vs Tifa

They meant omniscience. Alien X isn't omniscient because Ben is not omniscient, but Bellicus and Serena should still be. Celestialsapiens are nigh omnipotent and would become omnipotent after agreeing to. Other Celestialsapiens like Starbeard would not allow it in-universe.

Celestialsapiens can physically damage one another and that's how they fight because they're on the same level, but everything else exists beneath them.

The Q and A didn't have DC Casuals? I don't know what this means...

>Bellicus and Serena should still be
So when they agreed that the reversing and preventing the bomb from the destroying the universe, they were right

Yeah they really undersold how powerful and fast Hal is

>because they're on the same level
So an entire race of omnipotent aliens?

They're nigh omnipotent beforehand and would have to agree to become omnipotent, but other Celestialsapiens are on the same tier and it's agreed upon them to prevent that. You can go ahead and filter posts you newfag zoomer, do that so I won't have to repeatedly explain this to one additional retard that learned about this lore a day ago.

So how long is Yea Forums gonna rave about this?
Haven't seen a match get this discussed in length
How long was Goku vs Superman again?

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>Alien X can rewrite the entire universe as many times as it wants.
And?
Superman Pre Crisis stomps
Xeno Goku stomps
Zeno stomps
Comic Thanos stomps
MCU Thanos (Complete IG) stomps
TOAA stomps
The Presence Stomps
Medaka Kurokami stomps
Zeedmillenniummon stomps
Arceus stomps
Bill Cipher stomps
Solaris (Sonic) stomps
Shulk stomps
Asura stomps
etc etc etc

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>one event is everything
Not even trying

They know better than to ever apologize for or walk back any of their fights. You don't say you're wrong in politics and you don't say you're wrong in vs battles.

>could have easily rigged a character to win against character they hate
>don't do that

Mario vs Sonic

>Zeedmillenniummon
Man I want them to use this one so bad.

Arceus vs Zeedmillenniummon would that be a mismatch?

>They're nigh omnipotent beforehand and would have to agree to become omnipotent, but other Celestialsapiens are on the same tier and it's agreed upon them to prevent that.
So they have to power to gain omnipotence, which is itself omnipotence, but other beings can stop them meaning none of them have omnipotence, and the creator has said that they don't have omnipotence.

This is the problem, it's written for children so it makes no fucking sense.

I'm not much of a scooby do fan but I'd read this for that sweet sweet dokm patrol

People are still talking about Goku vs Superman

They did that via adding (((new rules))) that excluded everything Archie from Sonic while buffing Mario with everything from Galaxy onward.

It wasn't a walkback.

Funny because they also redid Metal Sonic. They used to wank Metal Sonic so fucking bad 6 years ago.

Nah, Thor is faster and stronger

Scooby Doo teamup is god's gift to the world and more people should read it.

digimon is complete bullshit and zeedmillenniummon is the most bullshit character in all of digimon. it'll be a complete mismatch.

>So begins the biggest salt war since Goku vs Superman
You must be new

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>Vs battle Wiki
Nigga no

>People are still talking about Goku vs Superman
You don't see Yea Forums making threads about it every damn day (granted it comes like once a month but still)

I'm assuming what you mean to say is that they couldn't reverse the time bomb. They were saying that it already happened, and what Ben just had them happen to agree with was recreating the universe. His words are to "fix it", so the universe isn't even a perfect copy when it's done.

If you find it odd it's because the writers used the episode as a chance to retcon stuff with Ben's faulty memory shifting reality as the justification. Undoing the bomb would make that moot so Serena especially was a bit more sarcastic than usual that episode. Alien X can already reverse time, reverting the bomb while they're completely intact wouldn't really be an issue if that was the route they wanted.

What would be a better match up for Zed then?

Learning that Benfaggota are the worst of the worst has been a real highlight of the week

Ben hinted at doing Superman vs Goku 3 because they mixed in New Earth feats with Superbro during round 2 but Rebirth happened and made the point moot so he quietly dropped it.

That wasn't so much a redo as everybody saying Zero should've been involved in Wily vs Eggman because Wily did build him.

I honestly think Ben vs Hal is topping that one
Kirby being OP is commonly accepted by Zoomers now
Zoomers don't know shit about Hal

Zeed rapes.

>Goku loses a third time
Please make it happen

Did that really cause Goku vs Superman levels of salt?

You're just upset that neither Hal nor Ben 10 could stand up to Simon

It got bad, but I don't think it was as bad.

So they're weak to fucking wording like a genie in a shitty DM's D&D campaign?

Nah not even close.

Also it came after so DBfags were already weary of DB.

>Ben wins
People are okay with the result despite what the G1 blog and researchers say
Crisis averted

>Hal wins
HEAT is revived in power level discussion
People are angry
But more importantly HEAT IS REVIVED

You seriously want to pick god lore for logic? Ben 10 doesn't dwell in this area for too long while DC constantly makes shitty crossover events dealing with it.

I do agree though that on the whole the nigh omnipotence to omnipotence exchange and the prevention of obtaining it is retarded and that if it would eventually happen with one Celestialsapien in one dimension in one timeline then it would instantly impact everything in the franchise. I honestly wish that Celestialsapiens would be weaker than someone like Hal because their existence kills a lot of tension.

The failsafe is faster than the speed it takes to almost enter the Speed Force? Yeah right.

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Someone needs to make a bingo for salty death battle loses.

A waifufag fight

>no Dracula curbstomping Ganondorf

Didn't know about that. Cool.

>You seriously want to pick god lore for logic?
God lore when it doesn't use childish concepts like omnipotence can work fine for logic. God lore when a kids program uses it to fix narrative problems it has caused itself is less solid.

Like what?

He's not as strong and no where near as fast

It's one of the most requested battles.

This one has been extremely popular for years even way before DB was created. I think it's inevitable.

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as a newfag, can I get some context for what HEAT is

i honestly have no idea. you would need someone from the higher echelons of SMT or DC and marvel cosmic to even touch zeed.

Kim Possible vs Panda Delgado?

Mitsuru vs Weiss
Tifa vs Yang
Maka vs Ruby
Blake vs Akame

This is the best I've got

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You mean like Ben 10 does too?

Yeah I know it was a huge thing because while Zero might not have been part of Wily's army he is the doctor's greatest creation.

Sort of? Their actually weakness is that they debate over everything, and the heads usually want to debate about things that have zero interest to Ben like whether they should save the dinosaurs or not. Ben got them to agree to fixing the universe rather than reverting or causing a direct recreation of the universe so that was good enough.

Albedo as Alien X couldn't get the personalities to agree on anything including detransforming from Alien X and was stuck motionless for a year. Later on in OV Ben manages to wriggle out of this restriction, which is presumably what Screw Attack was using a severely nerfed version of.

Isn't Zeed barely multiversal?

Hal's Emerald Advancement (formerly Attack) Team
When Hal went evil and killed off the GLC and Kyle Rayner became the sole Green Lantern
People were pissed
They paid for a magazine ad, destroyed issues featuring Kyle at LCS (and IIRC even raided a truck), and even sent a bomb threat to DC
When Dwayne McDuffie went with John Stewart for the Justice League cartoon, HEATfags also gave him shit

>MUH MAXIMUM HYPERGOD ULTIMATE GIGAVERSAL FEATS
That shit is boring as fuck, it's always better on the ground having a brawl instead of NUH UH I'M MORE OMNIPOTENT
I wanted to see more of Ben and Hal trying to outfox each other with constructs and Alien combos.
I'd rather have Ben use Feedback or something weirder than MUH ALIEN X.

>Omniverse unironically cucked Ben due to antifeats for Alien X

What narrative problems? I'm assuming you don't watch, because they really barely come up.

It's missing 2 characters

They already had Tracer vs Scout

On Yea Forums?
XJ9 vs Robot Boy but that'll never happen unless Luis gets drunk

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Sonic still should have won that rematch, but its the 100th episode and who better to give the win to than BING BING WAHOOO?

You know what's DB missing, a crossover with this channel.

He's plenty smart too and would probably enjoy spending an hour talking with the DB crew about this nerd shit.

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I can understand the Dwayne McDuffie shit.

But only because Kyle Rayner was set up to be the Green Lantern in the previous series, and was promptly ignored.

You mean the upcoming one right now?

I was honestly expecting Ben without Alien X versus Hal without Parallax and not as a White Lantern. Even worse than the result was probably how boring they were with all of Ben's prior aliens, but I guess they have a budget. Hal isn't the most creative as far as constructs go but they still could've stepped it up somewhat.

Didn't Rainbow Dash beat Starscream?

>they're testing waters for aJake long VS Danny Phantom

Please don't

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from my understanding zeed is able to destroy entire timlines and universes even in his sealed state. once he's unsealed he's a threat to all of existence.

I think it was meant to be Purple Smart losing to Raven

OK, could he defeat Demonbane then?

Listen, Ben said he didn't do Ben 10 vs Danny Phantom because he thought the sole connection of them being action cartoon heroes from the 2000's being weak and that their power sets wouldn't make for a good fight
What makes you think he'll do Jake Long vs Danny Phantom?
Also consider this
They said they'll do more 2000's cartoon characters in matches if Ben vs Hal is well received and popular
Yeah I don't think we're getting Danny, Jake, Juniper, Megas, etc

I am actually really surprised they didn't rig it for Ben

why was this deleted when is so based
janitors are dumb

Research team runs the show now
From verdict to writing
Ben is a figure head

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That said, Ben and the rest of Death Battle's higher ups still decides what matches happen via requests and a Google form for said requests and occasionally they throw their animators a bone and let them decide a match

Community Death Battles mean nothing for the most part
For fucks sake they had Ben 10 vs 10 Ben Singers as a joke

I don't know, maybe they didn't like I it or maybe I was nuked for requesting CP (unlikely as it was on Yea Forums)

Jake should fight Juniper
Danny should fight someone like Yoh, Youmu, Gentleman Ghost, King Boo, Rotom, etc

Wonder Woman doesn't have any strength feat comparable to Thor. Wonder Woman definitely lacks the force manipulation comparable to Thor. Wonder Woman is faster in terms of mobility but Thor's reflexes are fast enough to allow him to react to the likes of Silver Surfer, Gladiator and Hyperion. No matter how you look at it, Wonder Woman only got superspeed advantage. Thor would win every single time.

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>Batman doesn't get wanked

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I'm not all that familiar with power level bullshit but do find it fun to engage in on a casual level. Shouldn't the varying levels of speed in characters be almost always the deciding factor in battles? Like it doesn't matter if Mike Tyson is 1000x stronger than my fatass limp dick self if I'm 5x faster than him in reaction and movement. He would never be able to touch me. I remember seeing the Captain Marvel VS Shazam video a month ago and finding it really ridiculous that apparently it's a "close match" when Captain Marvel is about the speed of light whereas Billy is like 1,000,000,000,000 times the speed of light simply because they have comparable attack power.

This makes Hal look like the worst character in DC. No matter what he just "will" himself to do anything.
Maybe you should word this better.

Stop being a pussy and endure the faggotry like everyone else. This place is full of shit opinions, just post a troll face and pretend you aren't getting a hard-on from a "my guy can beat your guy" argument.

But power level battles aren't about how shitty the writing is for battle purposes, it's about who wins. I can create a character who is the worst piece of shit obese goblin that farts and shits all day but give him the power to kill anyone by farting on them at infinity times the speed of light and he would beat the most well written character in the universe.

You mean Suggsverse? Nobody takes Suggsverse seriously.

THE DIALS
GO UP
TO 11

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>implying this isn't the best cartoon intro ever done
youtu.be/APbU9_tGa-0

Mario = Superman
Sonic = Flash

Please don't trigger that debate.

Bowser could have killed Ganon easily

>64 posters
>355 ips
Have sex

>Goku
Guy can't even beat his rival.

That's Ben's job with his cousin.

Ding ding ding ding! We have a winner!

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This i have sex vicariously through ben fucking Gwen

Poor Ben 10 fans. They never saw it coming in their blind faith

>people caring about Batman

Sure is 2008 in here.

Has any Death Battle had this much buzz post fight? Like I'm not telling you to stop or slow down but christ. Hopefully Unicron vs Galactus or Robot Boy vs XJ9 or even Stan Smith vs Peter Griffin gets this much buzz.

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Only one I can think of is Goku vs Superman.

The autism of comics book fans versus the 12 year old mind of cartoon fans. I don't think it'll be replicated.

Everyone goes full retard with speed feats without understanding the implications of being able to essentially have a years worth of free time in the time it takes for the other guy to blink.

>Google form
Any chance you've the link handy? There's one skinny boy whose fanbase has really started to piss me off that I'd love to see explode with salt.

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>characters with a a variety of ways to use their abilities
>still comes down to punches, energy blasts, and last minute asspulls

As both a GL fan and Ben 10 fan, that fight was lame.

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Who are you talking about it?
Also, do not spam
They've said that they will start reconsidering the match if they see clear spam
docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfJeEnkXGbuGh2Cv07BvgUSLqhop5PAn61pHEJDhxNLNu458A/viewform

It's a shame that Death Battle doesn't use day-to-day kits instead of the absolute best. Regular Hal versus Ben "Ten" Ten would have been a lot of fun.

Ainz Ooal Gown. The power-wanking the Lich gets is very annoying to see.

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This is why 11yo Ben vs a character like 12yo Aang would've been better. Not too weak and not took powerful.

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Ainz vs Skeletor?

That was basically my fear when they first announced this.
>"Please don't be Master Control Ben, Please don't be Master Control Ben, Please don't be Master Control Ben, Please don't be Master Con- GODDAMMIT!"

>can't even beat The Hero from Goblin Slayer
pathetic. haruhi dabs all over skellymittins and his crew solo. 2ez

We do this scientifically:

>Kyla Rayner
+Sweet girl
+Into geek shit
+/- Artsy
-Sensitive
-Drama magnet
-Likes to talk about feelings

>Joan Stewart
+Smart
+/-Disciplined
-Bad attitude
-Workaholic

>Simone Baz
-Insecure
-Basic bitch
-Criminal record

>Gal Gardner
+Fun to be around
+A sexual dynamo
+/-Histrionic
-Will try to fight you at least once

>Helena Jordan
+Still fun, but a little more reserved
+Simple-minded (little drama)
+Likes burgers
-Not very bright
-Not very responsible
-Massive ego

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Going with Gal

>hal is just a regular woman but without drama
Immediate best girl

Kyle is also guaranteed to get you fridged.

I could name a few more characters that could kick ben's ass, but...I'd be here all day.

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>Every single one is still better than Jessica

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Goku would still beat superman and idc what db says.

It's a cop-out.

nice b8 m8 i r8 8/8

3 years later and they’re still seething.
Fuck off, fag.

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And Superman could still beat Goku and I don’t care what you say

>This is what Piccolofags actually believe.

Get db's dick out of your mouths

Get your dad’s dick out of your mouth first

Like I said, SEETHING!

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This is about as salty as it gets user.

DB sucks but Superman will always beat Goku and it's not close.

Consider

We have a winner.

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Cope

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You have no idea what 7 days is like from God's perspective.

Nah. The logic is sound. Superman has demonstrated infinite strength when lifting the book of infinite pages.

So what you're saying is, even Alfred could beat up Goku.

How embarrassing.

Oh no, a non-canon book! How will we ever recover?

He combined with evil Superman to destroy a threat that was actually attacking the creative flow of DC itself. Goku wasn't even the strongest fighter in Dragonball.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
guess The Dragon ball Fans have the Argument from authority Now

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>Authority

What im saying is superman jobs to literal humans all the time.
>non canon
I assume your composite superman that fought goku was canon then?

You mean the composite Superman that is currently canon?

I’m pretty sure Goku got stuff from the games in the first Death Balls and from DBGT which was apparently not canon.

Alfred had just taken a pill that made him as strong and durable as Superman.

Don't engage. He's only here for (you)s.

We know. It’s fun to engage anyway

>I thought Ben 10 fans were better than this
You're joking right?

>n-no wonderwoman taskete!! I'm sorry!

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Can't Alien X sense time travel and thus it woudl've stopped Hal from doing hat shit in the first place?

I dont remember clearly.

Oh, no it’s almost like Wonder Woman is on par with Superman, just like she always has been.

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Zeedmillenniummon vs Lord English

She's usually not on par. I assume she's gone rogue for some reason so the writer needs her to be right now though.

Yes
also his ability to erase a being is instantaneous

The level of "that's not how time travel works" in this post makes me think that Green Lantern's true enemy in this fight was Ben Ten's terrible writing.

Hal would be able to reconstruct himself. He’s living Willpower

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I'd atleast somewhat agree with Hal resisting it to due to willpower. But thats just me being nice

How many times can he reconstruct himself and how fast?
I'm not saying he couldn't, just that being continuously erased from existence is hard to deal with

OHNONONONONO
BTFO BY A FUCKING NOISY CRICKET

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I'd like to think the Fury would be able to kill Alien X.

>S-superboy prime please not raw! I'll let you kiss Lois just stop!

He'd be reconstructing himself while going into Ben Ten's past and aborting him, finishing the fight in two instants.

I don’t know. We never actually saw it happen. I was actually pulling the “he can reconstruct himself” thing out of my ass but being living Will he’d probably be able to do it.

Reminder that goku from DBZ is more powerful than Goku from super because they retconned lots of his power

But he is more powerful without his ring. He matched Parallax Sinestro without it.

Forgot image

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>he doesn't know about the sotobro effect

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Defeated, not matched.

That anti-monitor is depowered compared to his pre-crisis self.

Please, feel free to explain in a way that makes any sense outside of the Ben Ten writers head.

Trips confirm.

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G-goku sama please im sorry

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Autistic people are naturally good artists

Is Goku stopping the punch with one finger or is he saying "And one more thing..." and Superman has had enough?

apparently, creatures with time powers have the ability to feel when someone is using time travel to fuck with them

That doesn’t seem like a rule in fiction

Most fags don't even know what HEAT is and Hal won so there's no salt from DC's side here.

But the only time you could feel that is after you've been fucked with, due to how time travel works.

Goku..please. No more *cough* i am no match for you!

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BEJITA...!!!
KISS... MY... WIFE...
NOW!!!!

>can't even beat his rival
shit MC frankly

make me clown

But goku sama deathbattle said i'd win! Your fanboys are just salty! Why are you beating me!

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Wasn't there a canon Superman White that stopped Prime-Earth Superman's punch with a finger?

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That was Superman fighting his future self wasn't it? Sorry I just don't remember the context.

There's an Yea Forumsutist in this thread spamming shit fanart of Goku beating up Superman.

Yeah Ben Ten doesn't register on the Richter scale of that saltiness.

I can't wait to see all the salty fanart generated by Ben vs Hal.

Where is that even from?

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This kind of art is just so fucking hilarious to me, someone out there was butthurt enough to draw these lmao.
Someone post the Sasuke one.

Good
Nothing after OS should be considered canon by the way

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Someone make Alien X snapping Maximum WIllpower White Lantern Parallax Hal out of existence.

I forget, I but do know that "she" is a crossdresser that's about to get their ass torn asunder.

I meant the sotoboro stuff

In Omniverse, I think it's during the arc with all the evil Bens. It's relatively obscure lore but this Death Battle brought it to the forefront since theoretically the moment Hal went to that area of time Alien X should have known.

The Bent Ten writer knowing that the audience is ten year olds so they can write whatever they want and it'll be fine.

I keep forgetting Watchmen is part of DC.

goku i submit! ¿Por qué me estás intimidando?

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What does it matter if he knows if Hal has already fucked him up?

Oh, sorry then user.

Why is it called the Sotoboro effect?

Isn't this the same thing with Superman vs Goku?

Thanks for bumping my thread, retards, I don't even read comics

No one cares.

When you're a retard on Yea Forums the assumption is you're a cartoonfag don't worry.

I guess it's up to timeline theory. If Hal is moving back in time in a way that his past self is still there, Alien X's timeline he left wouldn't cease to be. So that Alien X would know what happened and be able to agree to undo anything that happened, assuming Alien X wouldn't just decide to follow Hal mid warp and stop him.

Between X not just doing an instawipe and the failsafe not taking effect the Sotobro effect is minor in comparison, but it shows how little they knew about the franchise going in. Like in the infodump at the start they mention overuse mutating the subject's DNA. Was this from an obscure Ben 10 trivia card or something, because I don't think I've seen that information anywhere at any point in time. Knowing where they heard that is something I wish would pop up in their Q&A next week.

That’s nice I guess

>assuming Alien X wouldn't just decide to follow Hal mid warp and stop him
That is also not how time travel works.

Outside of Ben Ten's retardation Hal goes back and wins before Alien X can decide to do anything. If both contestants have time travel whoever does it first wins, Hal will always do it first since Allen has to actually agree to do it. DB gave Alien X far more credit than it deserved.

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Alien X not instantly wiping him in a bloodlust match is not giving him credit. If this GL interpretation of time travel where he is sent back but everyone else remains the same is a factor then Alien X detecting it can be a factor as well. But clearly you have some bias going into this.

>If this GL interpretation of time travel where he is sent back but everyone else remains the same is a factor then Alien X detecting it can be a factor as well

That's not a GL interpretation, it's the way that time travel would logically work. You go back, change something, it's changed now. You can't detect it because you are not the you that the person left there when they went back. You don't even know the person went back because they weren't there to go back any more.

So unless Alien X can irrecoverably destroy all stats maxed Hal Jordan in a literal instant, which he cannot since even Anti-Monitor couldn't, he loses in that instant because time travel is universally a stupid concept in fiction. To argue that Ben Ten's time travel for children is at all valid makes me think you must have written the fucking show.

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Geez buddy at least wait for the old one to be archived.

ZeedMillenniummon has never appeared in anything but a few badly made video games and a manga nobody read. Using him is worse than pointless.

Don't be a retarded general faggot, or fuck off back to whatever site you came from.