Spider-Man: Far From Home

???
they literally told you she knew in the trailer, you fucking retarded?

Isaac is the only one that I think is an improvement

Iris is not a ginger you retard.

these flicks have no stakes or real consequences so it doesn't matter

do you think she's a fake "MJ" as in not actually Mary Jane, and they will pull off the iconic jackpot scene with an actual Mary Jane at the door when Peter thinks the MJ his Aunt is talking about is Zendaya's character?

>We don't need five billion Spider Twink threads on the board this week

No.

Only fools believe that.

> She knows about Carol, Wanda, Hope, Nebula, Gamora, Mantis, and Valkyrie gangbanging Peter Parker.

See, the thing is that secret identities only work in comic books, where the readers are stupid.

The MCU, for all it's absurdity, is suppose to take place in a more realistic world. And in a realistic world, secret identities don't last. They're pretty much impossible to keep. Tony Stark found Peter Parker and went to his apartment when Peter hadn't even had his powers for like 3 months. Vulture figured it out after one car ride. And these are people who DON'T see Peter Parker and interact with him every single day like MJ and Aunt May. They'd literally have to be dumb, deaf, and blind to not figure it out eventually. And is that what you want? MJ and Aunt May to have the literal intelligence of boulders?

The only reason to get butthurt over it is because of "NOT MUH". Secret identities only work in worlds where people are too dumb to realize Clark Kent is Superman. Get the fuck over it.

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She knows in the comics too, so I don't see why this would warrant a thread.

Agreed. One of the reasons secret identities work in the comics is because intellectual consistency doesn't really exist regardless of how smart a character's supposed to be, and being that the universe is written around a status quo and not the characters, those character's intelligence and perceptive qualities deteriorate when convenient, and any suspicions that a character would reasonably have given data pointing to a conclusion on something (such as someone's secret identity) are ignored for the sake of maintaining that status quo, and for a superhero agency with near limitless technological resources and geniuses of near-supernatural intellect, it's a wonder how half these secret identity-having heroes keep their secret identities from their more well-equipped peers.

MJ, in the MCU, is established to be a perceptive person that happens to have an interest in Peter, so her eventually figuring it out based on Peter's behavior and Spider-man's presence during his absence just writing the characters around the traits given to them. This approach is how the MCU's movies, in most cases, tends to remain narratively sound from the standpoint of character development in spite of their fluctuating overall quality. About the only one I can poke holes in is Captain Marvel, but that's a different topic altogether.

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It make sense for her to know, but everyone else knowing makes it way less special.

Then by all means tell us who the zodiac killer is

I...honestly have no idea. It doesn't seem completely unbelievable, but having 2 MJs walking around would be awkward unless zendaya MJ just disappears from the story

Yes, we already knew this from the last trailer. Keep up.

The zodiac killer wasn't exactly showing up in public in broad daylight on a day to day basis you moron

You can't be that stupid as to think you're actually poking a hole in the fact of the matter with such an inane comment, can you?

Next.

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Tony Stark found out about Peter's identity because he can have microscopic drones following people whenever he wants
Vulture found out in the dumbest way. I'm sorry but there were kids from the decathlon who were also at her party. He did not have enough to go on to justify aiming a gun at a child.

Random vigilantes would probably get a way for it as long as they didn't make something as outlandish as the stuff the punisher pulls, caped superheroes would be tough sale, specially in today day and age, had the zodiac done that shit in the 2000's , I doubt he would had gotten away with it

Neither is Peter. He quips with the baddies and swings out of there.

Peter shows up all the time in broad daylight. He's probably the most personable hero there is that has a secret identity

N-nani?!

I just found out that here, in The U'S'A, you are permitted to have as many email addresses as you desire. It is marvelous. I said to my wife, in jest, "I desire an additional email address" and she said "that action is permitted." She said it over and over, continuously into the following morning. "That action is permitted. That action is permitted"

It wasn't just that, user.

>kid you've never met is really nervous around you, even more for prom
>Nervous when asked about his "internship" with Tony Stark
>daughter says he "got to hang out with Spider-Man"
>Happened to be in two places where Spider-Man was at
>Daughter says he disappeared coincidentally around the same time Spider-Man showed up

Vulture just put two and two together.

>inb4 "fuck off Vulture"

He

>secret identities are stupid
You know what's stupid? Going around doing illegal activities and dealing with criminals daily without hiding your identity. Fucking hell it was a plot point in the 2 first movies where this Spider-Man was, in Civil War where the very recognizable Avengers got into trouble for their illegal vigilante activities, and in Homecoming where Toomes threatened to fuck with Peter's loved ones. People close to Peter knowing is fine (although Ned knowing will definitely fuck Peter over at some point), the public knowing isn't.
Plus I want my clueless JJJ schtick godamnit.

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Will people even care this now that EG happened?

Something having an ending never stopped people from wanting more. See: every popular franchise ever.

But people who get super powers from spider bites do work in the real world?

Christ some of you are some dumb, it's painful.

Normally they are in a relationship first.

The MCU has never really cared about secret-identities anyway. Only people who insist that comic book movies need to be 1:1 adaptations will get mad about this (and they're artistic cancer anyway).

ew.com/movies/2019/05/22/spider-man-far-from-home-fandango-summer-movies-survey/
Yes. People are still excited to see where this franchise is going.

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Are you making a joke post? Because it's not funny. It's just stupid.

Secret identities would work in a pre-Avengers movie, the world's tech shot up incredibly fast after that, including surveillance.

For now anyway. And it's Spider-Man ffs.

this MJ is actually a water clone and the real one fell in a dimensional wormhole

>The MCU has never really cared about secret-identities anyway.
No but it had an entire movie that highlights the issues of NOT having a secret identity.

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True
>Can't sue me if you have no idea who I am!

So when do you guys realize it's just Mysterio doing an illusion on Peter?

That's one of the advantages.

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> sony giving away movie moments in marketing again
christ these fucks are idiot

Peter is a lucky kid

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I rewatched Homecoming the other day and Ned and Peter talk about it pretty openly while she sits like five feet away from them. It's not exactly out of left field for her to know.

Shouldnt you be in jail?

Peter's dating a WHAT?!

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A girl. Geez Ben, we told you Skip didn't make him gay, don't act so shocked.

This has nothing to do with far from home but I wanted everyone to see this
youtu.be/woUv22ldVZc

>See, the thing is that secret identities only work in comic books, where the readers are stupid.

No.

No.

You're fucking wrong.

A secret identity is a basic building block of the super hero genre. It's about separating the character from the more grounded mortal person who suffers the real life consequences. In their worlds it's about protecting people, it's so you're enemies don't go after your friend's and family. It's about protecting who they are, they were Peter Parker or Clark Kent before Spider-Man and Superman and they want to keep that part of themselves alive. They want to be able to go back into that and not be their personas all the time.

(The super villains use the personas to get away with what they do easier... It's hard to put the Joker on trial when three men claim to be the real Joker for instance.)

This is what the MCU doesn't fucking understand about comics or super heroes. Hollywood just wants a pretty face to shoot words out of and a franchise familiar enough to deceive a crowd. Holland is the worst Spider-Man in existence for doing any and all of this. They want to diminish the secret identity to turn the super hero not into a beacon of voluntary strength of a private individual with their own unique inspirations and personality but as a commodity to be sold to anyone who wants to buy it and claim it as their own.

The secret identity is the motivation behind the mask and the character behind the cape. Without it -- there is no super hero or villain.

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I'm amazed how much free advertizing for gargantuan corporations people do these days.

That doesn't make any sense. Raimi Spider-Man's identity is discovered by new people, including the villains, in every single movie. He even reveals it himself to Aunt May and MJ. The same thing happens in the ASM movies.

Yes, MCU Spider-Man does reveal his identity to a lot of heroes, but that's just by nature of the MCU having a lot more heroes for him to interact with. He still keeps his identity secret (for the most part).

>A secret identity is a basic building block of the super hero genre.

I feel like you haven't read a super hero comic since the 1950's.

what if the hero just wants to keep his private life... private?

You're missing the point. Why? On purpose?

The thing is it makes sense for most of the established MCU heroes (before Spider-Man) to have somewhat public identities.
Tony revealed himself because he's an overconfident egomaniac and a control freak who wanted everyone to know how much of a cool guy he is, and he was already a public persona beforehand. His villains also want to fuck with Tony, not Iron Man, anyway, so why bother with the bodyguard shit?
Steve was a propaganda figure, of course people know who he is.
Banner's identity was known to Ross to begin with.
Thor doesn't give a fuck because he's fucking Thor. It's not like the Donald Blak shit has been relevant during your lifetime either.
Hawkeye and Widow were basically treated as government agents in universe, even though SHIELD's status is sketchy the authorities definitely know Clint and Nat.
War Machine is literally an US air force soldier. Falcon is... I don't remember but military. WS was considered a public threat and his identity was secret until Steve revealed it and went "B-Bucky uguuu". Black Panther is literally the title of the ruler of Wakanda. If Wakanda is public, so is he. Vision doesn't have a real identity.
Wanda I'd agree is dumb, she was a criminal and should have hidden her identity, hubris I guess.
Ant-Man's identity was not public until Civil War when he got imprisonned.
Strange never had a codename in comics.
Guardians are criminals who are bad at their jobs.
And, well, Spider-Man's identity is still not public, and has some clear separation between what happens in his life as a hero and as Peter. As in he doesn't just say "I'm actually Spider-Man, don't worry about it" when he can't make it to the decathlon or whatever the fuck that was.

>why
1. Because vigilantism is illegal. 2. So that the villain can't just threaten their loved ones. You know, the exact same reasons as usual.
Of course it can be justifiable in story for them to not have a secret identity, but as is Peter should be really wary of shit like this with the close call he got in Homecoming.

If you actually read the post you're replying to, you wouldn't even ask that question. It's not voluntary, you cave dweller. He's saying that you can't keep a secret identity because it's not something you can even keep secret in a realistic setting. You can't throw on glasses and pretend you're not Superman because realistic people see through that. It only works in comic books. You can't be a teenager living with your aunt and not have her find out you're a superhero. Tony Stark found his fucking costume in his room by barely looking.

No, not "why would he keep his identity secret?" "Why?", as in "Why are you missing the point on purpose?" Yea Forums is incredibly stupid today. Holy shit.

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>ginger is an anagram for...

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I wasn't the guy you were answering to, your question seemed rather stupid but easily answerable so I answered it. I now realize it was stupider than I thought. My bad.

>This is pretty much the zoomer movie of the MCU, more so than the other films.
Pretty much. Patton Oswald's daughter left Endgame upset that there wasn't more Tom Holland Spider-Man, and then there was that girl on twitter complaining about people were talking about Jake Mysterio (I ain't spelling that last name on my own) over Tom Holland.

Tom Holland is the fucking One Direction of the MCU.

I think Ant-Man is one of the few, if not only hero that still can get away with having a secret identity, because his power is all about not being noticed. The general public doesn't know that Ant-Man exists, they only know about Giant-Man and I'm not sure if the government revealed his identity to the public. He also has come clean by being under house arrest, so he can be Ant-Man again because there is no proof that the "New Giant-Man" that ran around San Francisco is actually him.

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I like how you're trying to pretend you're not a zoomer while showing how much you're in touch with random people' opinions of blockbuster movies they've posted on twitter.
Well done.

That isn't a girl, its an APE!

redheads have no soul

So are you, Ben. Read a fucking book.

>so he can be Ant-Man again because there is no proof that the "New Giant-Man" that ran around San Francisco is actually him.

That was a gag because Ant-man is a comedy series. Everyone knows it was Scott, they just can't prove it. That's why he got away with it.

This is the dumbest shit Ive ever heard so I'm not surprised its coming from a spidey fag. Fuckers always think they've got comic book theory on lock down.

Guess who my favorite comic book character is?

Beta Ray Bill:
No half century "Oh no they might find out who I am" Cliche
No boring ass "Am I the Man or the Mask" Horse Shit
No "Whats my motivation" or "Am I really making a difference" flaccid story lines

Get fucked.

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>Horse shit
heh

The only books I need are Mein Kampf and the Holy Bible

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I go outside Yea Forums to see how shit like Captain Marvel makes a bil.

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>had an obvious crush on Peter in the first one
>would follow him around school
>thinks she wouldn't notice him sneaking off to become spider-man

I talk to people irl user, I don't look up twitter on my phone to understand people like a fucking zoomer.

True, but it still works to his favor. I wonder what is his situation after Endgame. Did the Avengers announced that he was part of the the team that helped to bring back everyone? Has Ant-Man gained fans in the MCU?

>Can't even justify why it isn't dumb and completely unrealisitc

>ITS IN MUH COMICS THO EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE WOULD FIGURE OUT IN A FEW MONTHS

She doesn't. They are trying to trick us

Aren’t gingers a minority too? Aren’t they more fragile than the average human? Wouldn’t that make them more special and deserving than any other minorities to get represented?

Who the fuck wants to see more Ron Howards and Carot Tops.

I want to see more Isla Fishers tee bee desu

I really fucking hate Zendaya's character. She really needs to be brought down a peg because she's an incredibly irritating person.

He’s just dropping his 2cents.

Carol will take Peter away from that monkey and make powerful aryan superhumans

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She is not MJ

She is not Mary Jane

>no freckles
That's a daywalker, not a ginger.

Have any of you pieces of shit read a comic book in your lives or do you just watch Disney movies?

The genre is reduced to "sexy person shoots power beams at ugly person!" to you stupid fucks. Kills yourselves, you aren't worth decent thoughts on replies.

>MUH MOVIES DO IT

Is not a good a good argument at all. That's what makes each of these movies fucking suck too, by the way. No heart and no soul without secret identities.

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Spider-Man's identity gets discovered fairly frequently in the comics as well, by villains and allies. Both May and MJ know. Even Jameson found out recently.

>I obviously don't have a counter so I'll just say I win!

>cruz
>cross
damn..

How did you get so jaded?

El Goblino

>Guess who my favorite comic book character is?
Fun fact: nobody gives a shit

She might as well be, Sony doesn't have the balls to put a beautiful white woman in their movies as a love interest. FUCK SOURCE MATERIAL.

>No heart and no soul without secret identities.

Guys, I don't think this guy has ever seen a movie or read a comic book that wasn't Marvel or DC. And I think that's sad. Do not ridicule this man. Pity him.

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redheads are a gift bestowed upon humanity by the Divine

I would literally put money on this fag being the same person who complains in every spider-man film related thread that MCU Spidey isn't really Spider-Man because Mary Jane and Harry don't appear. This nigga wants an idealized version of the Raimi movies that don't even exist.

It's bait and we all lose. You, me, him.

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I am Iron Man