Mao Mao

Here's a mega for those who didn't see the first episode yet
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If I see or hear this frog one more fucking time, I’ll go ballistic

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why are cartoons featuring sexy edgy catmen lately?
its making me confused

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I've always liked Parker's style on OK KO, the way he have characters be a bit lopsided/oblong, plus he worked on a lot of the better episodes. It was kinda disappointing to see him leave, though at least I also really like the style of the boarder who replaced him

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YOU KNOW WHAT I HATE?

HOW ALL THESE RIPPERS AND MEGAUPLOADERS ON THE 4CHANS UPLOAD THERE VIDEOS IN 10180P SUPER HIGH DEF, SO WHEN I TRY TO STREAM IT ON MY SHITTOP IT LAGS AND FREEZES SO I HAVE TO RUN THEM THROUGH A VIDEO DESCALER.

I THOUGHT THE CHINK CARTOON SITES TRAWLED 4CHIN FOR RIPS TO UPLOAD THEM TO THEIR STREAMING SITES POST HASTE FOR THE SWEET, SWEET, AD MONEY THAT I BLOCK ANYWAYS.

just watch them on kimcartoon

also
>streaming

that bat is so fucking cute. i want a toy of it.

>have awesome world and awesome duo of adult characters with a sense of adventure
>immediately tie them down to protecting some smurfs, fighting a wannabe 80’s cartoon villain with no bite and a scrappy doo

HARD pass

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Who knows, having more sexy edgy catmen is a good thing

>No bite
You do know the villain is part snake?

I made a thread five minutes before this one, for this new preview, but you fucks ignored my thread and posted in this one and STILL ignored the new preview.

>no funny jokes
>main villain is a pushover
>really is just fighting them off in care bear town

Gonna be a nope from me, boss.

I found a purrfect analogy for the series:

ayellowbirds.tumblr.com/post/185036506623/thoughts-on-mao-mao-heroes-of-pure-heart

>it’s like a kid having their TMNT figures protecting the Care Bear Cousins from He-Man villains

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Yup. That sounds nice and all, but in practice it sucks.

>purrfect
why

You already said no before. You're literally the only fag crying about the setting.

>Villain is shit
The guy is voiced by the Monarch. That automatically makes him based

He cares about his henchmen, too, which is always a good trait for a villain.

The circlejerk hugbox has already begun...

Trailer clip has Mao call him ineffective to his face and blast him off team rocket style. Joke villain.

You're one dense motherfucker if you don't realize it's going to be a standard overconfidence trope episode. Mao Mao was dismissing everything as a joke because of how awesome he is.

Boss Hosstrich is also voiced by Jackson
pretty sure Ramaraff's a girl

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I’m sure undermining the main villain immediately is worth the cookie cutter dime a dozen plot. Why would our protagonist need to learn his best buddy contributes? I get Adorabat.

B-because he’s a CAT! AHAHAHAAA

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We don't even know he's the main villain. Hell, Ice King wasn't even the main villain of Adventure Time but you'd think he was in season one. If you're going to keep crying, go back to watching Steven Universe.

The black cat's voice actor was horribly miscast.

Wasn’t that the lesson he learned in the pirate episode? Make your grandma proud?

Then the creator was miscast.

>oh no he wants to discuss a cartoon critically my feelings muh Steven Universe boogieman

Deal with it buddy.

What the fuck are you even talking about? That's not what overconfidence means.

I actually like him. For as much shit as i’m giving the show, if the duo had a stronger bond and sook adventure rather than holing up in one place, it could be good. I’d even be down for Adorabat if she kept proving effective (though I think she takes away from Mao’s ambitions)

>I did this all by myself perfectly you messed up

There is over confidence and there is i’m carrying this team.

That's arrogance.

Alright, you can split hairs, that’s fine. They stem from eachother.

Seems a bit of a promising premise.

>Main character is a legit ace who finds himself in a situation that's 'beneath him' but has to learn humility from it

Sounds like a good episode plot. A series though?

>Joke villain
It's a fucking comedy, user.

It can be stretched for a least the first season or half season. Especially when there's little at first that challenges his beliefs but even reinforces his certainty or even starts to bring down his opinion of others.

Accept it user. We are living in a golden age of cat husbandos

Shame. The strengths of the show (character premises, world, designs) must fall victim to the weaker aspects (humor, show premise).

The show is called Heroes of Pure Heart. I’ll wait and see if it picks up but rocky start.

>Fall victim to weaker aspects (humor)
It's a fucking comedy, user. This isn't an action show being plagued down by it's quips like a complaint on Marvel movies. You're complaining that a comedy is a comedy.

The comedy is weak. If the show is meant to be a comedy and your average joke is how modern the characters speak or how weak your villain is, that’s weak.

“It’s a comedy” is not a defense.

And "I don't think it's funny" is not objective criticism to it being bad. It just means you don't think it's funny.

And that wasn't even your original point in discussion. You were disappointed the villain wasn't hardcore edgelord who successfully murders the main hero.

It's only the pilot that barely got into anything with this show

I’m upset that the stronger aspects of the show are weakened and the weaker aspects more pronounced by virtue of it being a comedy. This show could work a lot better as more of an action focused series. That’s valid.

>well everything you say is subjective
When have I claimed otherwise? It’s an opinion you dingus, that’s what people do when they talk about shows.

>You were disappointed the villain wasn't hardcore edgelord who successfully murders the main hero

Who are you quoting with this one?

>This show could work a lot better as more of an action focused series. That’s valid.
No, that's NOT valid. You want the show to be something it's not and are upset it puts its focus in one genre instead of the other. That's retarded. That's like me saying I wish a romcom would focus more on funny jokes and less on the romance.

Maybe if the romcom had shitty romance but quality humor that would be a valid position.

>I like these aspects
>I don’t like these aspects
>man wouldn’t the show be better if it stressed the good instead of the bad?

This is a perfectly viable opinion, especially at the dawn of a new series. What is it about a premise or authorial intent that makes an aspect of a show not worthy of criticism?

>Maybe if the romcom had shitty romance but quality humor that would be a valid position.
No, it still wouldn't be a valid position. You would still be saying, "I want the comedy to take the star because it's clearly the best aspect of the romcom", but you're still asking for a completely different genre.

Not liking the comedy is one thing. Saying the comedy should take a backseat so it can focus more on action is a misguided criticism. You want the show to be something it's not.

Why is wanting the show to be something it’s not, not a valid criticism, isn’t that what all criticism is?

You criticism what is there. You don't criticism, "But I want it to be something else entirely".

>I think the villain is lame. His comedy doesn't quite hit, the punchlines are seen coming from a mile away, his voice acting kills the jokes.
Would be valid.

>I don't like the villain because he's comedic. I want him to be more serious, otherwise he's not a credible threat.
Is not. Because the show was never TRYING to make the villain into a credible threat, only a funny one for MaoMao to fight.

What you're doing is saying it's valid criticism that Adorabat is blue when she would look better red.

You say this, but why? Why is a show’s premise off limits when discussing a pilot? Why must I respect authorial intent?

If I think it’s a bad Idea I should say so, no?

top kek

Because complaining about what isn't there is not criticism of the product, since you're criticizing elements that are either:

>Not there
>Not the point

It's your own personal grievance, it's not actual criticism anymore than someone going, "Why isn't MaoMao dating Bearclops? That sucks, the show would be better if their bromance was a true romance".

IS THERE PORN FOR THIS SHOW YET?

My position is informed by the show itself. It isn’t a situation of me preferring action shows and being disappointed at a comedy. This is an example of a show with elements that are far more conducive to an adventure show and are instead tied down as a comedy.

Can you shield any show from criticism in any way by saying “well it was intended to be this way so criticism is off limits!”?

Yes, a decent bit, especially for Mao Mao
Check the /trash/ threads

God, it's like talking to a fucking brick wall with you.

Go ahead and bitch that a show doesn't do what you want it to do. You're probably a miserable fuck anyway.

No need to get frustrated because you can’t argue around it. A general premise is not off limits when discussing the faults of a show, and expressing desire for the elements that DO work to be expressed in a different way is perfectly valid.

I’m having a great time by the way, thanks.

>I’m sure undermining the main villain immediately is worth the cookie cutter dime a dozen plot

Sigh.

youtube.com/watch?v=u-u9JeG5Ii8

Mao Mao is more than a little reminiscent of LEGO Batman, whose own movie opens with him effortlessly dunking on his entire fucking rogues gallery. That's because the movie is about how Batman is his own worst enemy and there's this whole arc.

Mao Mao is the same. He stopped paying attention to Snake Guy and nearly got killed for it. There is an extremely high chance that his cockiness will be presented as a problem and then in the season finale it will finally bite him in the ass and he'll get owned and learn some valuable lessons. That story requires the villain to be ineffectual, because otherwise he'd kill Mao Mao as soon as the cat starting fucking around and the story would be over. If Mao Mao needed help to beat Snake Dude because he wasn't badass enough, then you can't do the story about how he thinks he's LeBron James and needs to learn friendship, and that's the whole point of the show.

>Can't argue around it
Because you literally can't argue with someone when the conversation goes like:

>Here's a villain, he's a joke.
>BUT WHY THOUGH
>Because he's meant to be a funny foil to the hero who doesn't take him seriously
>NO I MEAN WHY DOES HE HAVE TO BE COMEDIC AT ALL, WHY CAN'T HE BE SERIOUS
>Because... He's not? It's a comedy show, it's not a serious show.
>WELL, IT SHOULD BE SERIOUS. IT SHOULD BE A SERIOUS ACTION SHOW.

You're arguing like you actually have autism. This isn't like Rise of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles with god-like action scenes that kick ass. The actual fight scenes are basic as shit and basically serve as a backdrop to the comedy. Saying the action is somehow "the highlight that they SHOULD be focusing on" is like saying OK KO should drop the comedy as well.

Listen if you’re going with the IAMSILLY fallacy I don’t think I can engage with you. I’ve laid out my position very clearly and all you’ve said is that it doesn’t count because the creator didn’t mean to make it that way.

Well that’s my point. Maybe the premise is bad and not conducive to the stronger elements of the show? Authorial intent is not exempt from criticism. Authors intend stupid shit all the time.

Yeah, I recognize that’s what they are going for, an overdone plot that you can call out from a single episode. Doesn’t make it a good premise or utilization of their elements. Your point?

>Why does Paw Patrol have to be for kids? Why couldn't it be a teen action show about dogs driving vehicles? Heck, Pixar made Up which treats dogs flying planes very seriously, it could happen! Paw Patrol sucks because appealing to a pre-school crowd ruins its potential.

Is your level of autism.

>it’s just for kids why are you being so hard on it
>it’s supposed to be shit! Don’t criticize!

Do you really have to compare the show to a babies show to make it look better? Is it too low quality and for such a young audience it’s exempt from criticism?

You keep forgetting that my position takes into account the elements that are already there, by the way. This isn’t X should be Y it’s Oh man ABC is good but D is bad, rather than focusing on D they should focus on ABC!

You're also retarded, soooo...

>A general premise is not off limits when discussing the faults of a show, and expressing desire for the elements that DO work to be expressed in a different way is perfectly valid

If the villain is competent, the entire show falls apart, because Mao Mao feeling that he can easily save the day himself and thus there's no reason for him to have teammates no longer makes sense, and that's the entire premise of the show

If you want to see an action cartoon with a competent and threatening villain, hey that's great and a completely reasonable opinion. If you want to watch "Mao Mao: Heroes of Pure Heart" with a competent and threatening villain....you can't. That change would break the show and leave it unrecognizable. You might as well say you want it to be a TV-MA live action pro wrestling series. It's not a criticism of the show, it's a desire to watch a different show.

And that's how I know you have no idea what the discussion is about. Trying to rewrite my argument as the, "You can't criticize it because it's for kids!" defense when that's not what I'm referring to at all with MaoMao means you'll never get it and will always bitch about Team Rocket being Team Rocket and that you want Skeletor to be a super serious Joker.

>Yeah, I recognize that’s what they are going for, an overdone plot that you can call out from a single episode. Doesn’t make it a good premise or utilization of their elements. Your point?

My point is that "This show would be better if it were about four older single women sharing a house in Miami" isn't really a criticism, it's just saying that you don't like the show and would prefer to be watching The Golden Girls

>doesn’t address the point of the post and just criticizes an aspect of it

As expected. You were the one who brought up Paw patrol as a comparison.

>the show needs these elements to do what it wants to do

That’s fine. My point is that what it wants to do is not in service to it’s strongest aspects and instead highlights it’s weaker ones. If the comedy takes a huge leap up and the characters become more likable than it has a chance, as of right now it’s just a missed opportunity of ideas and concepts worked into an 80’s style cartoon.

See
Read the last paragraph.

What the fuck did I miss in this thread?

>My point is that what it wants to do is not in service to it’s strongest aspects and instead highlights it’s weaker ones.

The strongest aspects is that MaoMao is a cocky shit who easily wins short fights. A competent villain engaging MaoMao in a fight that lasts 11-minutes and actually makes him sweat isn't MaoMao. It's Xiaolin Showdown or Voltron, but it sure as hell ain't MaoMao.

Actual show discussion and debating the importance of authorial intent. Grab popcorn.

I don’t think MaoMao’s plot armor/overwhelming competency is his appeal (especially in a show where his ambitions are to become a great hero, something he already appears to be). I enjoy his drive for adventure, sense of duty and goal oriented nature.

The natural and obvious choice for conflict in a show about an adventurer wanting to achieve his dream of becoming a hero is some sort of competent obstacle. Not a series long arc of “the true hero was the myself I found along the way”.

>I don’t think MaoMao’s plot armor/overwhelming competency is his appeal
...He's bragging every 10 seconds and his goal is to be the best hero in an egotistical way, not a My Hero Academia way. Him being an angry narcissist who loves to beat shit up with shiny gadgets is his appeal.

If you think it's not, then, uh. I don't know? Go to the doctor and have your eyes, ears, and brain checked maybe?

>The natural and obvious choice for conflict in a show about an adventurer wanting to achieve his dream of becoming a hero is some sort of competent obstacle.

Oh, so you want even more of a generic plot. Got it.

>That’s fine. My point is that what it wants to do is not in service to it’s strongest aspects and instead highlights it’s weaker ones. If the comedy takes a huge leap up and the characters become more likable than it has a chance, as of right now it’s just a missed opportunity of ideas and concepts worked into an 80’s style cartoon.

I'm of the opinion that criticism in any kind of detail requires being willing to meet the series halfway and think about what it's trying to do.

"Mao Mao has good action but the jokes are bad and it could benefit if it took itself a little more seriously" is reasonable criticism

"Mao Mao should be a shounen battle series where the villains are serious threats that could plausibly beat Mao Mao straight up" is not reasonable criticism. It's a reasonable *opinion*. You're free to hate the premise of how Mao Mao is Lebron James and needs to learn to pass the ball, but that's such a fundamental part of what the show is that's you're asking for it to be a completely different, unrecognizable series

The pilot went out of its way to showcase that he can trust in his friends (do your grandma proud/tutoring Adorabat) and his sense of duty (I literally HAVE to stay in carebear land, even at the cost of my own dream). Just because I didn’t think his cockyness was the appeal of the character doesn’t mean I believe it doesn’t exist.

Snarky quip ignored.

>generic

How is cocky He-man saves the smurfs from gargemel with his buddies man at arms and Scrappy doo not any less played out? On top of this, why is a traditional hero story bad?

Literally just ignore the retards complaining about 'muh action cartoons'

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I want to fuck Mao Mao

And i’m of the opinion that you’re wrong. Authorial intent does not exist as a barrier to what is and isn’t valid criticism.

The only difference between your first example and the second are the ways in which the sentiment is expressed. Person A explains the problem, person B proposes a solution as a counterpoint to better illustrate the problem.

>just close your eyes and go lalala

Yeah i’m sure a hugbox thread is a lot more interesting.

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I have a feeling this retard is the same one who ruined the last Mao Mao thread.

No, he isn't ruining the thread. People who take bait ruin threads.

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Compelling counterpoint.

Or your CalArts show is just retarded.

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>CalArts

You don't even know what that word means.

Not me by the way. I wouldn’t argue if I didn’t think the show had potential. It’s not complete trash, just a really major stumbling block (the premise)

Loving the fanart in such a short amount of time

Is the big guy named Badgerclops or Bearclops?

yeah just one episode released without ads got ridiculously popular
i mean the teaser was popular years ago but that died down fast, no way that's what this is

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>The natural and obvious choice for conflict in a show about an adventurer wanting to achieve his dream of becoming a hero is some sort of competent obstacle

....No? That's a very surface-level view of modern storytelling; most series/shows/movies have a conflict that must be resolved and then the villain is defeated, actually defeating the villain is often not the resolution to the conflict. This is most obvious when looking at the MCU, which infamously has a ton of forgettable shit villains, but which huge numbers of people like anyway. The conflict of Iron Man isn't about War Monger, it's about douchebag Tony learning to become a superhero. The conflict of The Avengers is "can all these heroes work together". The conflict in Guardians of the Galaxy 2 isn't Ego the planet, it's ego the emotion that makes Peter get all dick-wavy with Rocket at the start, etc.

This is not unique to Marvel, the conflict in My Hero Academia is Deku needing to figure out his powers and become more confident. The conflict of Naruto is Naruto becoming a respected member of Ninjatown. The conflict of the Cell arc of DBZ was Gohan needing to stop being a goddamn wuss. The actual villains are secondary. Hell, Naruto goes about a year and a half before introducing series villain Orochimaru and the second it does the quality starts dropping dramatically.

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I'm super surprise the black cat wasn't female

Is this the same autist who went off on final space months back?

Badgerclops now, used to be Bearclops.

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Was Bearclops. Now Badgerclops

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I'm interested to see how much hype it can keep up and if it does well for em

>CalArts

Oh good, you're a buzzword-spouting idiot we can ignore. Thanks for letting us know

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Badgerclops (formerly Bearclops)

Alright, thanks dudes

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You're still replying though. Literally free (you)s

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>show features two husbandos and a daughterfu
it'll be fine

Go watch TTG

The examples you mentioned still have competent villains that the heroes must overcome. Their struggle and adversity is what helps an audience care about them. Excluding (or doing extremely poorly) an external conflict to focus just on the internal conflict is a lot less interesting. Nowhere did I say that Mao shouldn’t learn about himself and overcome his own shortcomings, i’m just saying that if all of the conflict is internal it’s going to be a lot less involving.

Heck, broken/hax characters can be done right too. Both Rurouni Kenshin and Vash the Stampede are great examples. Their conflict is in how they can’t go 100% for fear of hurting people, and they must overcome real obstacles in the real world while trying to stick to their morals.

tl;dr, if you want to go the one punch man route, I want to see some better villains and better jokes.

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See
Likely a false flag but retards gonna retard so who knows.

What?

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Is that a hair tuft, whisker or an eyelash?

Cool kitty

Whisker
I honestly thought Mao Mao was a catgirl with huge tits based on the thumbnail

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Anybody draw them as Spike and Jet yet?

I really love the amount of fanart this show has already.
Will this show succeed or flop because of CN's shitty business plan by not hyping it up and dropping an episode out here very suddenly?

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It’s in a rough spot. It’s all up to fan interest.

Damn. I just hope this gets a chance to truly shine.

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Let’s be honest The 5 sisters may save the show assuming they are Mao levels of cute

All the red on Mao Mao sure is going to make twitter rough on fan art that doesn't involve him not wearing clothes.

>inb4 his 5 sisters are actually big and buff like in his imagine spot

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Then all is lost unless musclefgirlags infiltrate the mainstream

It's too jokey

The one in the middle was likely his dad. The five surrounding are the sisters, I think. One is really buff, the others are pretty lithe.

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Musclegirls are a pretty niche interest, but I'm down for it.

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>one is wearing huge armor
Musclegirl confirmed?

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Top right and bottom right are going to be the heavy hitters.

Are the three main characters amputees?
Badgerclops has his cyborg arm and eyepatch and Adorabat has a peg leg, but what about Mao Mao?

Possibly tail.

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IIRC the short "Bao Bao's Revenge" had an explanation. However, since that is not publicly available and I haven't seen it in years, who knows.

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>However, since that is not publicly available and I haven't seen it in years
How did you see it before

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Tail seems likely

Titmouse's 5 Second Day screening.

And you don't remember anything about it?

CalArts Cat Show

There were literally a hundred other shorts playing that night. The thing that stood out about Mao Mao was that it looked too good to be made during 5 Second Day.

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Kitty

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and a cool kitty at that

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How'd they manage to make something so perfect

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i'm getting major Ghost Stories vibes from the main character. mostly the voice.

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Give it time. I'm sure female characters will show up.

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They'll be his sisters, which doesn't really help since he can't be shipped with them.

Have you not seen loud house or ben 10 threads? Also why you do want or care about shipping or female characters. Just watch the show

he cute

mega?

ctrl F

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I didn't mind it I guess. Dunno how long they could keep this premise going for, the Pure Heart Valley must have some interesting shit going on in it to keep it pretty much stuck in the area.
I really like the OP though, has that anime OP vibe to it.

Regular Show mostly took place in a fucking city park, yet nobody was complaining about it having a mundane setting. The setting doesn't matter, it's what you do with it.

>Just watch the show
look at this dude implying anyone on Yea Forums actually watches cartoons and doesn't just pretend to justify beating themselves to the next fotm

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Well you got me there. Who knows what could be in the valley.

the Monarch? you mean that wimpy butterfly villain with that light-pitched voice that would make windows break and cry in agony from how annoying he sounds? Hard pass.

You got any Aaravos voice actor?

I like the cat's design but despite all of what I saw when that sneak peek aired on CN during commercials it still feels a bit juvenile for me. I will probably give it a test watch when the first episode releases, but I don't have high expectations.

>uh.
I wish your kind would be exterminated.

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Tumblr deserves to be called out.

1 0 7 7 2 9 9 8 4
>muh tumblr boogeyman

I bet you also call things Reddit, CalArts, and say that everyone is a roastie. Not even worth the (you).

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I didn't expect that Shadow the Hedgehog ass voice coming out of that cat. I have no idea if I like it or not.
Though about the show, it's cool I guess. Didn't grab me too hard. I'm looking forward to when the world gets a little more fleshed out.

>Lego Batman guards a care bear village from goofy, animal He-man villains
ok
I'll give it a shot
also because so few shows give animal characters digitigrade legs

yes we're aware of the funny tumblr synopsis you 12 year old

>the hero is not a retarded or naive
>not a kid or teenager
Thank god. I'm watching it now.

More

adorabat is breaking the series for me

fpbp

That is spot on.

I think Adorabat is a girl.

>5 Second Day.
What is 5 second day?

A cat is fine too.

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Holy shit

youtube.com/watch?v=I2e8VzT1Czo

How about a giraffe-apult?

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