ITT: Conservative Characters

I'll start, Hawkman.

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>subtle homo erotic thread
cool

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At least, he should be.

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Guy Gardner!

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always remember
god favours tops over bottoms

He'd be a new deal democrat.

Captain America would legitimately fight for the Confederate States' right to own slaves.
This is a fact.
Steve Rogers is no federalist.

Captain America would not fight for those who disbanded from America.

you're delusional

False.
Steve Rogers himself disbanded from America.
Why do you say that?

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>Steve Rogers himself disbanded from America.
For much different reasons.

yeah i doubt he would be republican

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Don't know much about Hawkman but a lot of people say he's an asshole. Why is that? He seemed pretty fine in Young Justice.

He is a continuity Black Hole.
I'll be pissed too if I didn't know who the fuck I am.

I like this thread. It feels comfy so far.

Cap would never support the abuse of other peoples, even if states had the "right" to do so.

>He'd be a new deal democrat.
>implying he wasn't
>implying he isn't furious about the absolute state of the modern US
>implying he doesn't miss a POTUS like FDR

I know they revealed he votes Democrat, but it never made sense to me.

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He hates the wealthy and uses every resource he has to helping those in need. He hates guns and doesn't like the death penalty, instead wanting nothing but to reform villains. He's about as blue as you can get.

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Yeah, but he's pretty traditional... Then again, he did adopt a gyp, has a half-sandson and his folks were typical rich Libs... Plus, he goes around bleaching in every other run (and he has awful taste). Huh, it does make some sense...

Pretty obvious.

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Where did they reveal it? I thought Bruce didn't vote at all.

That Justice League miniseries about the election. hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dc-universe-decisions-revealed-dc-heroes-were-republicans-democrats-944939

Conservative? He walks around shirtless in public. He’s a slut.

>Question
>Rorschach
>Wondy
>Hal
>Tony
>Lois
>Booster
>Wolverine

Wondy is liberal as hell.

>Wolverine
Literally what

See

>Wolverine
Yeah, makes total sense that the guy who’s been tortured, beaten, and abused like an animal by a mutant-hating government for over a century would be a conservative.

>Being Republican in the late 30’s/early 40’s
>Having any interest in other countries, not surrendering immediately rather than pay to build a new fleet after Pearl Harbor, expecting freedom to be anything other than free and easy

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I don't give a shit what some one off story says vs years of what the character has been. If you knew anything about Wonder Woman you would know she's more liberal than fucking Green Arrow.

Rorsh is written so Libertarian that he comes out the other end as an Anarchist.

It was Moore’s commentary on Ditko’s contradictory moralistic conservatism.

She's a hardcore traditionalist faggot.

Tradition to her culture is highly liberal to everyone else. In the original run anyway, Amazons became assholes in the 90’s and 2000’s.

Like ancient Egyptians, or Scythians. Which is fitting given the latter is literally the basis for Amazon myths.

matt murdoch should be, he's a lawyer right, most of those are

She literally isn't lmao. She's the one who's the most open to change out of all the Amazons and usually the one trying to get them to communicate with man's world. e.g the whole Steve Trevor thing.

I have no problem with heroes being conservative, but she just isn't. A shitty story where a character is out of character means literally nothing.

yeah he would. He'd support the 10th amendment.

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Criminal justice tends to be mixed.
Corporate is usually con.

>hawkman
>hal
>guy gardner
>barry
>wally
>daredevil
>punisher
>iron fist
>nick fury
>batman
>gwen stacy
>harry osborne
>amanda waller
>angel
>cyclops

Post characters who are pro-life. I feel like WW could be very much be pro-life, but I have no proof.

...

I think he is more a libertarian and onky votes republican to not have to pay too many taxes. His politics are buisness oriented, he is not really conserative. He is a full blown transhuman but he is a businessman that believes in small goverment.

Would Batman's Rogues generally be Pro-Life? I feel like they would.

>pro-gene editing
>means he's some Liberal faggot
Oh yeah, he's totes interested in more nignogs getting gibs... He's neither a Liberal, a Cuckservative or whatever else.

Don't start this retarded argument yet again you fucking autistic losers.

You know that libertarians aren't liberals, yes? Stark is not a conserative, he is an international buisnessman that deals with the latest tech, but he isn't liberal. He is big on privatization.

>You know that libertarians aren't liberals, yes?
Yeah I know. But I always assume such posts are "muh favorite supahero is a Liberal like me" types, and I've grown tired of it, so I call people faggots in advance. Just to be sure, y'know? I mean, Stark being a "Social Liberal" is such a dimwitted opinion, but lots of people have it, so...

Wolverine is not a conservative, none of the X-Men or mutants would be lmao

You sound very autistic

Perhaps.

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Where does the Batfamily land on the political spectrum?
>Bruce
>Alfred
>Dick
>Babs
>Jason
>Tim
>Damian
>Steph
>Cass

Who cares?

>thread about capes' politics
>user asks about certain capes' politics
>"hurdur who carez"
Why did you even click on the thread?

I don't think we're supposed to talk about comics and cartoons on this board, just like Yea Forums isn't for video games these days. Yea Forums is a mysterious place.
As for the characters:
>Bruce
centre-right, old money, business friendly and donates to charity a lot. Lots of government contracts, disliked too much state interference because he works alone and knows what's best.
>Alfred
Anglican monarchist
>Dick
US Democrat, I think? Don't know enough about him
>Damian
The weak should fear the strong, but Bruce's influence makes him a bit softer
>Jason and Steph
Libertarians
>Babs
Depends on the writer, ranges from rightwing policeman's daughter to sjw with a diverse supporting cast
>Cass
Can't read, would vote for whoever Steph tells her to

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...Sounds good to me, desu. Based Rightist Batfamily.

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Barry Allen

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I agree with most of these but Babs is probably irreversibly liberal now not that I mind though.

Depends. He's loyal to the Dream, but does that mean holding the dream together no matter what, or upholding the spirit, even if it means its own collapse? Civil War seems to imply the latter.

She "joined" him to head off a slew of attempted assasinations, not because she's totally a rebpulican. The fact that said candidate was a chickenhawk warmongerer might have been a good clue. It helps to actually read the comics instead of shitty clickbait articles about them.

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Apolitical coming through

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Conservative:
>Hal
>Guy
>John
>Simon (ironically)

Democrat:
>Jessica

Centrist:
>Kyle

imagine being this retarded

imagine hating freedom this much

No do it for everyone in this pic

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I can't see John as a conservative. Guy is probably apolitical.

Reminder that the Confederate States used the power of a federal government to ban state governments from banning slavery.

Going by his original appearance, guy is a republican through and through. He even got into an argument with Fire about the prospect of only Reagan having Nuclear power.

Don't conservatives hate the government?

Conservatives love the government when it helps them, just like liberals love the government when it helps them. Cons like the military, police, and social security.

Also a Catholic. Daredevil is based

Wouldn't Jason be an anarchist?

Joker here is probably a full blown right leaning marxist libertarian anarcho capitalist alt right sympathizer

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Not sure Jess is Democrat, she probably doesn't vote and plays pokémon on election day. She owns guns and hunts, but is of Latin descent (1-1 for either party). Could be either. Simon is ethically conservative, but would still vote Democrat because he's a muslim. Good thing they just let them be good refreshing characters without anything political, a trap Ms Marvel fell into to with her election issue and her brother.

Prepare for my autism:

>Aquaman
Traditionalist Monarchy. Secret Racial Realist. (Humans vs. Atlanteans obviously)
>Powergirl
Unironically progressive
>Billy Batson
Apolitical.
>Supergirl
Democrat with a progressive streak
>Huntress
Conservative but largely apolitical
>Captaom Atom
Conservative
>Black Lightning
Democrat
>Cyborg
Tfw to intelligent for politics
>Hawkmam
Conservative
>Booster Gold
Conservative
>Vixen
Center Left
>Hawkgirl
Conservative
>Red Tornado
tfw too intelligent for politics
>???
>Zatana
Democrat

Bottom Row:
>Hal
Conservative
>Ollie
Socialist
>Black Canary
Progressive Socialist
>Wally
Conservative
>Barry
Centrist
>John
Conservative
>Wondy
Traditionalist Feminist
>Bruce Wayne
Libertarian who hates guns.
>Clark
Apolitical

Top row:
>Kyle
Center Lefty
>Fire???
No clue
>Mr. Miracle
Near-Communist
>Guy
Conservative
>Phantom Stranger
Tfw too ascended for politics
>Jamie
Democrat
>Doctor Fate
Tfw there's a literal God in my head
>Donna
Progressive
>Question
Libertarian
>Firestorm
Progressive

Yeah, that'd be a better fit. Jason resents (state) authority and is edgy about it, while Steph is a hacker since the new52 and spreads info on the web as Spoiler. She'd probably browse DC /pol/ and be contrarian there. She also had a brush with Anarky and his commune, but rejected him/his ideas. There's a fine line between the two camps.
Yeah, they really turned Babs into a leftie Democrat with immigrant and trans friends and a series of interracial relationships. It was a bit too much imho, but the pairing with Luke Fox was interesting (he's a decent character, being the son of Morgan Freeman and tech genius mma fighter) and would have brought him more into the Batfamily. What's he up to these days?

>I can't see John as a conservative.
Don't make me post the KFC pic again.

He’s 100% left

He was Donna Troy before Donna Troy existed.

He’s a cool anti-hero/Superhero based on Prince Vultan

>Ollie
>Socialist
>Black Canary
>Progressive Socialist
What's the difference?
>Supergirl
>Democrat with a progressive streak
What makes you say that? Kara has only been on earth for a couple of years, and probably considers human politics trivial and uninteresting, since we're pretty low-tech than the society she's used to (strict guilds and a dictatorship of oligarchs, scientists and military figures I guess?)

He’d be completely pro-gun control.

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More of a Rockefeller-type

>raised by two farmers in a stable white household
>left

Wolverine hates government tho. I think that’s kinda a Conservative/Libertarian thing. I’m not good with politics desu

>Can't read, would vote for whoever Steph tells her to
lmao yes

>Yeah, they really turned Babs into a leftie Democrat with immigrant and trans friends and a series of interracial relationships
>and a series of interracial relationships
I haven't read the Batbooks in years. What the hell did they do to my Babs?!

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Captain America punched Hitler on the cover picture of his first comic. So he's very much anti-conservative.

Conservatism and anti-Hitler are not mutually exclusive you divisive fuck.

Doctor Fate would be in favor of whatever the status quo is.

>raised by Cristian Methodist Mom
>raised in flyover state
>in a farm
>stable working class white family
lmao Superman is atleast center to apolitical. No way he’s simply a lefty.

Hitler wasn't conservative retard. He was a facist. There's a huge difference.

I'd see Cap more as a Libertarian with some left leaning views.

I'll add some of the guys not mentioned there
>Adam Strange
Not an Earthman (Rannian now) Apolitical.
>Elongated man
Democrat and Feminist (Because of what happened to his wife you know?)
>Guardian
Democrat (maybe?)
>Dr. Light
Monarchist (Not an American right?)
>Tempest
Monarchist like Arthur
>Doctor Mid-Nite
Conservative and Religious too.

>Hitler wasn't a conservative. He was a conservative

???

Wait I got 2 more!
>Black Lightning
Democrat and Progressive (One of his kids is a lesbian)
>Phantom Stranger
Apolitical (Because he's literally a stranger)

natsoc is actually extremely progressive, in the sense that they wanted to overturn the Weimar Republic and replace everything and everyone, socialists and conservatives (old german elites) alike. Equating national socialism with conservatism is a rookie mistake, they're nothing alike. Cap was a New Deal Democrat I think, but I'm not a Marvel expert.
She's had a almost a dozen love interests or one-night stands since the new52 (I wish I was joking), most for a handful of issues, so there was little character development for them. Being able to walk must have boosted her libido, redhaired genes and all that.
>interracial
Lots of DC girls are getting on that train, if only until a change of writers when it's abandoned.

No, they are. Hitler's basically the king of icon of conservatism. Look at American conservatives and their nazi bullshit. WWII, as far as politics was concerned, was basically liberals vs. conservatives. And the good guys won.

user, conservatives are generally no more fascists than liberals are communist. We call each other that, to insult and belittle one another, but it's really meaningless insults, or at best reminders not to stray into those sort of policies.

Wow... I guess the hobby really isn't for me after all. I've already dropped most shows, so... It was to be expected, really.

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Let's not get off the rails, these threads are fun when discussing ideas we think characters hold, but RL politics and history will get this thread purged.

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>107714554
You ain't getting any (you)s from me, you pathetic excuse for a b8er.

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Don't lose hope user, there are still good comics for characters we love, and good things on the horizon, comics and live action. The blacked thing (Babs, Kara, Diana) is just a pandering meme and will pass.

I can't imagine being so delusional you actually compare modern conservatives to Nazis. Get some help

>I can't imagine being so delusional you actually compare modern conservatives to Nazis

The whole nazi salutes, tiki torch parades, and racial minority scapegoating are kind of a big giveaway, comrade. I don't think you're fooling anybody but yourselves.

Eh, I don't know user. I was excited about Hickman handling the X-Men because I thought he was gonna write some Dune-like stuff. Then they went and niggered Jean "just cause", so... It kinda put the whole thing into perspective. Wasting money on overpriced propaganda pieces and all.

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Who's this guy?

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not conservative but i view spidey as a Libertarian

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The Doctor

God i miss Ditko Peter

Doctor What? He seems like a weird dude.

Batman.
>You see Robin, despite making up 13 percent of the population-
>>What about the Falcones? Maronis? Zuccos?
>Are you telling me Sicilians and Romans aren't fucking niggers?
>>Well, no Bruce, aren't they from Eur-
>You have much to learn, my ward. They're brown, smell weird, and are short.
>>Aren't blacks tall?
>Why, because of the NBA? Those are extreme cases, the Depmartment of Health and Human Services has statistics that the average blacks are around 6 to 8 percent shorter than whites
>>Really?
>Yes, as opposed to being slightly taller in the slave days, as they had better nutrition. Emancipation was a fucking mistake
>>Aren't those stats nation wide though? What does it say about Gotham
>It's probably even worse in Gotham. The black people in this city can be counted on two hands- one, if you exclude Lucius' family
>>Does Lucius know you think this?
>Probably, I use his computer to shitpost at work
>>You use the internet at work?
>Yes, to track down crime. Everything is a tool Robin. Do you have any idea how many pedophiles have been arrested since you came out in short shorts?
>>Wait, wha-
>All Jews too, fucking kikes. You know, Brother Eye has been doing satellite scans, and I can't find ONE instance of there being any sign of any bodies around so-called 'nazi death camps'
>>Didn't Alfred fight in WWII?
>Yeah but he also BLEACHED some negress and now we have Julia, so good for him
>>What is bleached?
>Let's just say I think Starfire is better for you than Barbara
>>I mean she does have pretty nice tits-
>Oh yeah, I can't tell you how many MOMMY MILKIES threads I've made about her and Power Girl
>>..
>Anyway, what was I saying? Oh yeah, fucking niggers. Sometimes I wonder how long it takes before Leslie gets brutally raped by one of her 'patients'. Probably has a few times, and just hasn't told me because she doesn't want me breaking my one rule
>>Would you really do that
>No, Robin. Lesson one of crimefighting; Niggers aren't human

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Ah Yes, I remember this.
Raimis Batman Trilogy sure was interesting.

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>I was excited about Hickman handling the X-Men because I thought he was gonna write some Dune-like stuff. Then they went and niggered Jean
unironic mental illness

>that scene where Batman buckbreaks Lucius
The weirdest moment for me was the Killing Joke workaround where Barabra is paralyzed by Batrape, because Bruce caught her flirting with Luke Fox.

Isn't Rorschach more of a Libertarian?

Dammit user, he set it up so perfectly and you missed it.

>set it up so perfectly and you missed it.
Set up what? Anyway, who is that dude? Is he a bad guy or a good guy?

Probably, it’s been a while since I read it, but Rorschach was one of those guys that went around with the “THE END IS NEAR” signs out of costume. He’s an absolutist though, which lends itself to a more religious mode of thought though. Lets just say Rorschach would have been a fan of Alex Jones.

>Rorschach would have been a fan of Alex Jones.
What Infowar article would Rorschach have wrote?

>Liberal arts degree
>Conservative no matter what year he's from
Sure thing, buddy.

>Booster
>Conservative
Why you think this?

what does "conservative" mean? because to me it just sounds like "liberals but opposite".

Because Ted is a liberal and it makes it more fun.

Welcome to bipartisanship! It sucks here, but the human condition literally won't have it be any other way.

Now that would be epic.

Reading through the thread, I'm getting the vibe that everyone wants Batman for their side. But what is he really?

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Somewhere in the middle.
Batman is super conflicted.

Eh, it would be funnier if Booster was only a conservative by future standards. Like he has super edgy conservative that are just bog standard leftism now.

There's been stories were he goes to great lengths to put his personal fortune toward social outreach programs and flat-out philanthropy. What's uh Bill Gates' thing?

Why would Ted be a liberal? Isn't he a business guy? Wouldn't he want the state to stay away from his loot?
Cute

I guess that makes sense. A bit of everything, really. The Waynes were bleeding heart Liberals in most versions, but I think he's seen way too much shit to be the same as them.
>What's uh Bill Gates' thing?
Sterilizing Africa so that we won't be drowned by the black hordes.

He's extremely liberal aside from the beating criminals to a pulp with his bare hands things. A walking contradiction basically

Teen Titans Go Robin is a conservative

Green Arrow has a giant corporation too and he's THE liberal superhero, as far as outright declaring their political views goes.

>He's extremely liberal
I see that thrown around, but I'm not sure. People cite his philanthropy stuff, but that's not a Liberal only thing. For one, he's extremely territorial and goes all "muh Gotham". He still lives in a mansion decorated with all sorts of antiques, instead of having some modern loft, so he feels connected with some form of the past. He's a triggered Catholic. He doesn't hate cops or the establishment. Basically we know very little about his politics past the fact that he cares about Gotham's people. Also
>FBI Crime Statistics
I mean, he is supposed to be a detective. What detective would disregard actual statistics?

Didn't Batman get retconned into atheism relatively recently? I remember Yea Forums making a bunch of inflammatory threads about it.

user, pretty much every Christian character is an atheist now. Even Daredevil's an atheist. But yeah, he had a "I used to believe in God... but now I don't!!111" moment. But like I said, he's a triggered Catholic. The kind that goes "fuck you God, X, Y & Z happened and it's your fault". It's like lashing out. Hell, that's not the worse. King made him attempt suicide, and also revealed that he was a cutter. Not to mention his Catwoman hangup. Or hell, The War Of Jokes And Riddles, where the big reveal was that he tried to stab and kill Riddler. Not Joker, Riddler. You're better off pretending the King run is a fever dream.

No one is conservative in comics anymore, user. Unless they're evil.

Captain America is a Barry Goldwater Era conservative. He'd pretty much hate Regan Era Conservatives, Neocons and the Religious Right for being corporate shills.

Its important to remember that Steve was born around the Silent Era, and not a Baby Boomer.

Superman is a solid republican. He's not a big city liberal if that's what you're implying.

Probably cuz conservatives are either evil or stupid IRL.

Nah, not even villains are Conservatives, aside from the odd "me toxic male and dumdum" characters that appear for a single story. Everyone has the same views now. Villains are either Globalist Conquerors, Serial Killers/Psychos who don't discriminate or "Le Quirky" robbers. And Heroes are all... the same.

Wonder Woman doesn't work with Feminism. I argue that she'd be okay with a Roman Style or Greek-Athens Style Tyrant running the country.

This post is the kind people writing comics nowadays. Pure evil.

Conservative of course.

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Oh no mean words, it's pure evil

>Conservative
>Conservative
>Conservative

Reminder: in todays America, Conservative = Hardcore Trumper

Not because all conservatives do unquestioningly follow him, but because those that don't are hounded by his cultists as 'leftists' until they fall in line.

I think he’s an apolitical traditionalist of shorts. That’s the vibe I get. Both Parties are the same at this point, so why bother?

The X-Men are all college educated liberals who fight for civil rights. They're just stuck in the 60s while the civil rights activists start sucking up to corporations and selling out.

X-Men at this point is just Malcolm X vs. Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam

Okay and?

By far the /ourguy/-iest of /ourguys/

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>unsubstantiated narrative explanation
>builds false dichotomy
>onions driven psych projection
Reddit is that way.

>mindless conflation and false equivalence
>in the internet age, when you can read what actual Nazis, commies, and fascists believe from their own writings
ITT: Demonstrable proof that Yea Forums can't read anything longer than a caption.

Rorsh is fundamentally incapable of interacting with wider society.

Its why he's a vigilante hobo living a marginal lifestyle hunting down criminals.

He does have some respect for journalists, but even they let him down in the end.

Its hard to write a religious character when they run into "LITERALLY SATAN" every 6 months in the next big crossover event.

Every writer also wants to write conflict and a crisis of faith is the easy one for superheroes, they can't punch their way out.

>He does have some respect for journalists, but even they let him down in the end.
Nothing ever Ends.

How do you feel living at the End of History?

>Truth, Justice, and the American way
>Liberal
Eat fewer crayons

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>Post characters who are pro-life
Harley Quinn

Reminder
"Conservative" is not a synonym for "right-wing"
Conservative and liberal are not antonyms you can be both simultaneously.
Conservative: Wanting to maintain the status quo or to return to an earlier system of values
Liberal: Being in favor of maximizing the rights and privileges of the individual and lowering the authority of the state.
Right-Wing: Being in favor of capitalism/free trade
Left-Wing: being in favor of socialism/ planned economies
Authoritarian: Being in favor of strict government oversight of society

Okay carry on

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Steve is a liberal conservative.
This isn't a contradiction you guys, he's liberal in his ideology and values but his form of liberalism is conservative compared to today since he is literally from the past.
Liberal and Conservative are not opposites.

>best comment in the thread
>nobody gave a shit

That's a small minority of modern conservatives, most are still boomer neocons.

Not that they aren't correct.

Dunno about Conservative, but he always came off as a Eugenics and Technocracy Utopia type of guy.

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Dilate

The American Way was FDR assuming direct control over the economy, establishing social programs left and right and slapping the rich around.

Also killing nazis, lots of dead nazis.

>Also killing nazis, lots of dead nazis.
America literal only went to war when the Japs attacked. But nah, I'm sure Ol'Gramps was thinking "I gotta bash the fash so that Jamal can fuck my grandaughter and usher us in a mixed and glorious future; for Abortions and Transpeople Lads!"...

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What's it like getting triggered by history?

I think South Park is cheating because you could pick many characters but Butters' dad is the best example

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Nigger, I'm neither an American nor some Naziboo. But facts are facts. God, where's Rockwell when you need him...

Imagine thinking that your progressive generation had the same perspective as the "Greatest Generation" because they actually fought against Nazis and you whine about people saying "sub to pwp".

>hurr durr anyone who doesn't want open borders is a Nazi
The brainwashing really got you hard didn't it

Historically, killing nazis is....good.
Dead nazis are the best kind.
My ancestors killed nazis and I'm proud of them.

Please rate each statement based on your feels.

LOL literally the only reason we went to war was because it was a known fact that after Russia turned against Germany, they were going to beat Germany and then conquer the Nazi-occupied nations for themselves and ruin trade with America, so we stepped in so that when the war ended Russia wouldn't have a foothold there. Pearl Harbor was probably the only reason we didn't 100% join up with the Axis, and we were selling them weapons as late as 1941 and having the FBI investigate movies for having German villains and anti-fascist propaganda.

Nope, pick a side:

>abortion-loving, gun-hating, lilly-livered, tax-and-waste communist
or
>fundamentalist christian, gun-humping, MAGA-hat wearing, racist, sexist, fascist

No middle ground

What the fuck is going on with his hand?

Why'd we declare war on Germany and not Russia then?

Your brain seems to be trying very hard to rationalize America killing Nazis as bad.

It was actually really good.

No one at the time gave a shit about the Nazis. None of that stuff came to light until after the war. It wasn't some noble fight against the ultimate evil like its been portrayed since.

Until Japan hit Pearl Harbor, there was a sizable faction in the US that wanted to join in on the German side.

So after the Nazis declared war on America in solidarity with Japan Americans were completely understanding of geopolitics and excused their absolutely necessary declaration?

My god, how kind of America to forgive the Nazis before stomping them into the dirt.

I'm sure your "ancestors" are proud of you for using their accomplishments as internet argument points against anonymous fags on a Mandarin Poetry Forum.

>instead of having some modern loft,
He did the in the 70s at least.

Probably America's sizeable population with German ancestry. That isn't a huge surprise, especially considering that the war wasn't really about what the Nazi party's atrocities. It was just another war between nations to the people at the time.

Not all right wingers are conservative

Better than disavowing and rolling in apologist filth desperately disavowing your ancestors proud Nazi killing.

Not what I said at all user. Just saying that American involvement in WW2 has been portrayed as this noble crusade against evil that we just couldn't stand by and watch when in reality we wanted nothing to do without until Japs bombed us. Lots of people were perfectly content to watch Europe burn itself to the ground as long as we weren't effected.

That's ignorant of Lend-Lease and FDR's lies in getting material support sent to Britain and Russia.

"They'll totally pay us back after the way guys!"
-FDR, knowing they totally won't be able to.

What are you even trying to say? That's a lot of accusations that mean nothing.

We didn't, we declared war on the Axis powers in general and especially Japan after Pearl Harbor. Obviously, we weren't going to be teaming up with a nation that had literally just bombed us and declared war. There's some pretty damning evidence that Roosevelt knew 100% about Pearl Harbor, and even let it happen as an excuse, and this isn't discussed just by some Joe Schmoe conspiracy theorists, but by liberal academics like Howard Zinn and Robert Stinnett.

But Russia was always the enemy we knew we were going to have to face. Roosevelt was making plans for taking on Russia and having American spies infiltrate their army even before the war ended. There were peace talks, but none went over well.

And yes, the FBI did investigate anti-Nazi sentiment. It's a known fact that they came down hard on Charlie Chaplin for making The Great Dictator, and more war protestors were imprisoned during WWII than any other war in American history, and most of them were liberals and academics, not Nazi sympathizers. Before he came down hard on comics for inspiring juvenile delinquency, Fredric Wertham was anti-war protestor (even though he was himself a German Jew) and even accused comics of trying to brainwash kids to die on battlefields

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It's a shop using Paulie's (from Sopranos) classic gesture.

>It's a known fact that they came down hard on Charlie Chaplin for making The Great Dictator

I'd forgotten about that
>Make film mocking Hitler
>Get banned from America for life

I'm talking about the general population, not FDR. I don't think he shot any nazis himself. To act like most American soldiers were straight out of inglorious bastards trying to save the poor jews and collect nazi scalps is ridiculous. They didn't give a shit.

FDR was considered a fucking socialist by many at the time and he was probably eager for the economic boost a wartime economy would give the US. Subversive action by him to get the US into the war isn't surprising.

I'm sure at some point this will be about comics and cartoons again.

Yea Forumsnservatives grasping at straws, looking for any representation in fictional media, since they're so universally reviled by any person with a creative bone in their body. It's rich coming from a group of people who bitch any time a minority wants some representation in media.

Anyways, conservative powers have always suppressed artists, why would artists ever make heroes with the point of views of oppressors? That's why the majority of heroes are democratic and republican leaning 'writers' are stuck doing failed kickstarter projects with horrific artwork.

The absolute state.

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These threads always dissolve into this. This is the third politics thread we've had in two days in fact.

He held this sentiment as late as 1948.

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This.

I love when conservatives cry that they are under represented in media.Wait, the party that takes away funding for the arts, hates on minorities, and block freedom of expression... not represented in a positive way in the arts?

The only artists that end up making positive conservative representations are those who got rich easy (inherited or were given tons) who could live like the 'artists' of old. Just sitting around living off their savings, complaining about people they don't understand.

Not anymore horrific than what liberals are turning out...

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This is cute. I wouldn't buy it for money, but I'd read it as a webcomic.

Here.

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What about the JSA?

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Jay Garrick is a strict enforcer of age of consent laws and cockblocks Billy Batson when he wanted to bang Stargirl in his adult form, but he didn't know Billy was just a kid.

this is very true.

>He still lives in a mansion decorated with all sorts of antiques, instead of having some modern loft, so he feels connected with some form of the past.
a lot of young historians these days are very liberal. art history doesn't belong to any political party.

He didn't really. He just asked Billy what was going on because he wanted to talk it out and the wisdom of Solomon made Billy not tell him about his real age.

Why does everyone have to have the same brainlet criticism of Batman?

And here you are.