BENFAGS BTFO

>Post YFW "I don't care what power you've got"

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Laugh at this person

Did Hal time travel after Crisis?
I feel if its only a Pre-Crisis feat then it would've been safer to ignore it

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>Caring about a webseries that thought Toph could defeat Gaara

Not bad, not bad at all.

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cope

The ring's only limit is will and imagination user, also hypertime makes all DC feats canon.

That Kuro the Artist guy is going to lose his shit over this video

Hal is only limited by his willpower. He can beat anyone as he has enough will

>infects *technology*
>this should affect his *magic* ring
Zoomers can't do nothing right

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If that's how strong DB clocks Hal , he should have no trouble beating Nova

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Cosmos C'mon
Cosmos C'mon

Well DC bias is at work here. Also their reasoning for the omnitrix fail safe not working is bullshit. The omnitrix with the fail safe is different than the one when vilgax tried to cut the arm off.

>Martian Manhunter is the last guy left
>He's stronger than Superman
DC won.

>the more powerful characters consistently win
>this must be bias because it upsets me

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Kyle did.

>Ben 10 creator claimed Alien X could destroy a multiverse in "six thoughts," this is not supported in canon and was likely a joke
Are they fucking serious. They literally nerfed Alien X because they wanted DC to win

If Death Battle was around when HEAT was a thing, would RT hq get bombed if Hal lost?

I still want it even if Hal wins

He jobs a lot, I’m not familiar with DB, how often do they include jobbing?

They've been 100 percent correct this season and their accuracy got way better after Toph vs Gaara.

I hope so.

Nova Corps is a joke. Half the time everyone but Rich is dead.

It doesn't matter if Hal can lop off his arm faster than the omnitrix can react.

Screw Attacks main mission is to find any way for whomever they want to win. It's the reason Tifa lost, it's the reason why Shadow twice, they don't give a shit.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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No of course not. Yes I would have.

Yeah problem is Alien X takes forever to decide on a single thought and Ben can't harness that level of broken entirely on his own (as he needed the other two when he was getting bodied by another Alien X)

I'll just read his min- AAUUUGHHH

>100% this season
Wario vs Dedede was bullshit

They scaled Dedede to Kirby but didn’t scale Wario to Mario or Rosalina. Their research blog also picked Wario

Here's a DB that'll really piss people off.

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HEAT would have been an absolute terror in the internet age. Yeah probably.

>Artist
>(((Creator)))
AHAHAHAHA

Also, Hal punked Krona with all the emotional spectrum and moves wayyyyyy faster than Alien X who has to fucking debate what to do.

Before Alien X can do anything fancy its taking an anti-space god spike up the ass like Krona and Mandrakk.

Ben has been able to get the two inside of Alien X to give him control before.

Considering they're both invincible slapstick cartoons I throw my hands up for that one. It's like trying to find out if Felix the Cat could beat Mickey Mouse.

>Now you're vulnerable for me to-AAAAAAAAUUUGHHHH SCOTT HELP MEEEEEEE

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*The G1 blog
They don't do the show's research
They're just people who could be recruited for it
The research team doesn't do blogs anymore

He was able to get them to fuck off for a few seconds while they were in the middle of a fight with another Celestialsapien. They appeared a few seconds later while Ben was struggling and asked if he needed help now.

Bad example Kuro.

To be fair they took The Legend of Spyro's artist's lore for Crash vs Spyro

>Alien X who has to fucking debate what to do.
>Yeah problem is Alien X takes forever to decide on a single thought
In omniverse Ben figured out how to control alien x. He told them they could give him complete control of Alien X and the two stooges could continue fighting forever. They agreed

wait really?

Not really. MCU kiddies aren't very autistic and didn't mind Thanos getting bent over and fucked by Chadsied and no one likes comics Tony.

>It's like trying to find out if Felix the Cat could beat Mickey Mouse.
>Cartoon cat vs cartoon mouse
Mickey would win

Yep! Hal removed the Omnitrix from Ben’s arm by chopping it off and then stomped him with a big boot

BEWARE MY POWER

but he couldn't do "wipe out multiverse in six thoughts" bullshit and he needed their help again a few moments later

Wait, Really? They fucking nerfed him? What the fuck? Why would that suddenly be a fucking joke?

Cartoon waifu fight when?

Wrong. He asked them to help after they agreed to give him complete control because he was fighting another god being and couldn't figure out how to win. They refused, but ben figured out how to beat it anyway, because he remembered the godbeing had stooges deciding too, so he multiplied and overloaded them trying to decide which ben to hit first.

youtu.be/U7ng8Vr20wA

Was good

Shame next episode is weebshit

No, he wanted their help because he was fighting another godbeing with equal power to him but a bit more experience fighting the same beings. He won with

I just want them to use [Composite] Arceus but against who?

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He was also fighting what was effectively his equal.

Probably some Digimon but I am unsure who would be a good match

Zeed would be too much

Cause DB has a DC bias

Ben asked on Twitter who people wanted Beerus to fight
The most common suggestions were Darkseid, Thanos, Arceus, Sailor Galaxia, and Hades from Saint Seiya

Okay, no really how did Hal handle Alien X. Why would the end be with Ben getting his arm cut off if he did turn to Alien X?

How could you scale Wario to Rosalina? Kirby fights Dedede man to man all the time, Wario's never even encountered Rosalina outside of the sports and other spinoff games.
And those are just friendly competitions not real conflicts. Otherwise you'd have to scale a fucking Dry Bones turtle to Bowser.

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Beerus VS Asura would be better even though it'd be a stomp for Asura

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Cause they nerfed alien x and then ignored the omnitrix's failsafe, saying vilgax once tried to cut the arm off with no problem. They didn't do their research because that was a different omnitrix.

Easy, Alien X almost erased him from resistance but Hal’s will was too powerful. After that? He got the idea to time travel to when the fight began and cut off Ben’s arm so he could stomp on him with a boot

Hal has much faster speed and can use nearly all of alien x powers without having to go through bullshit. He also has more experience and has dealt with bigger players like mandrakk and Krona before

MCU kiddies got really pissy over Thor vs. Wonder Woman

>Darkseid, Thanos, Arceus, Sailor Galaxia, and Hades from Saint Seiya
Jesus they do people have a hate boner for Beerus or something?

The same reason Shadow lost to Mewtwo despite having activated Chaos control. Because DB probably had him change out because they needed Hal to win.

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Watch it, it's linked at the top.

Alien X: I wipe you from existence!
Hal: No you don't because I fucking said so nigga

>Hal proceeds to go back in time when Ben was a noob and failsafe bullshit wasn't a thing / Omnitrix still had a ton of limiters before its creator unlocked em
>Hall kills noob ben by cutting his arm off then stomping him

Reminder one of the nerfs to Alien X was saying he wasn't fast enough to stop the universe destruction. They forgot this was before Ben got full control, so he had to convince the two personalities to help. When Ben had full control he could do anything.

Mewtwo wiped his brain before he could activate Chaos Control was the point. Or do you think Shadow losing to Vegeta was bs too

>Alien X: I wipe you from existence!
>Hal: No you don't because I fucking said so nigga
Fucking based

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Wait since when can GLs fucking time travel?

Shadow can active Chaos control by just thinking it. Unless Mewtwo just thinks first then Shadow actives it and kills Mewtwo. They also literally had to have Vegeta talk Shadow out of his Super form to win so yeah, it was BS.

since a long time ago

That was comics Thor fags. MCU kiddies are too normie to really let vs battles bother them.

Why hasn't he done that any of the dozens and dozens and dozens of time that would have helped

>Alien X doesn't go back in time to stop him
Absolutely retarded.

(((Full control)))
Not what happened.

Because if things are so fucked time travel is required they're better off using Flash.

Applying logic to comics stops working after a while

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The hal goes back
Then alien x goes back
The hal goes back
Then alien x goes back
The hal goes back
Then alien x goes back
repeat infinitum

Except one is clearly more powerful than the other in every other area, so he won. Stay mad you fuck.

>Not what happened.
Exactly what happened retard. They gave Ben complete control in exchange for them being able to bitch at each other forever

Hal is also way faster than Alien X even if we give Ben (((full control))).

Okay Kuro

Guardians probably don't want random operatives doing stuff like going back in time to see the hand of creation, only the important GLs are allowed to have the ability to time travel

>Unless Mewtwo just thinks first
Which is something he can do, because we know his brain works faster than Shadow's and he has no counter to mind rape
>They also literally had to have Vegeta talk Shadow out of his Super form to win
No, he just tanked Super Shadow long enough for the timer to run out. He didn't even have to do that because SS Vegeta out-stats any Super form unless you composite with Archie shit

>Except one is clearly more powerful than the other in every other area
Alien X was literally beating Hal to the point where he was forced to go back in time. So if Alien X went back, Hal would have the same problem.

>Except one is clearly more powerful than the other in every other area
Yeah Alien X who can destroy the universe at will

>Forever is five seconds
Even the creator on twitter said Ben still has to pass a speech check with them.

You killed Ben?
I'M TELLING MAX

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>shut up and get in my space van

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Hal does like them young

>Hal is also way faster than Alien X even if we give Ben (((full control))).
Alien X moves just as fast. They said he was to slow by using an example of him not being fast enough to save the universe, despite that being before he had full control.

Okay, so from what I gathered they did Ben 10 dirty.
>statement from creator about how Alien X can destroy the multiverse in 6 thoughts is only a joke because they want it to be
>they fucked up the time travel rules in Ben 10 universe
>every failsafe that Ben have don't exist because they said so
Is this how you Halfags want to be remembered? Winning only because the party that are setting up the fight is bias?

> he has no counter to mind rape
Super forms are literally invulnerable.

>Super form unless you composite with Archie shit
Or just Sonic 06 where he was able to take on a being capable of consuming time and space. Or the fact that he could just use Chaos control and fuck up Vegeta in stopped time, or just go back in time and kill Vegeta before he goes Super Saiyan (even though he doesn't need to)

It wasn’t the creator, it was one of the art directors or some shit

Proof retard? Also funny that the creator saying something is now accepted

>Halfags and Benfags ruined forever
I'm ok with this

Can't Ben literally not die because the Omnitrix will literally just recreate him?

This.

Yes

You wanna know the funny thing about being a sore loser? You’re still a loser

The omnitrix has a failsafe that will literally not let Ben die.

>Creator didn't say they could destroy multiverse in 6 thoughts some artist did. Also Ben in control isn't the celestial sapian in control anyway.
>Which time travel rules? Also why should it matter if Hal can overcome them anyway since screwing the rules through willpower is kind of his thing
>He went back in time so the failsafes wouldn't mean shit. Remember the Omnitrix was limited as fuck when Ben first got it.

No, it auto transforms him into the right alien. So in this case he would auto transform in

I was gonna say Mewtwo cause he's a non-comic psychic character but realized J'onn would just turn into a giant black ghost cockroach to fight a psychic type

sure sounds boring desu

>He went back in time so the failsafes wouldn't mean shit. Remember the Omnitrix was limited as fuck when Ben first got it
This time travel rule. That would just make another splintered Ben. Ben prime would still exist.

Heck, you don't even need the ghost part. pic related would be mewtwo's worst nightmare.

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Alien X would travel back and save the younger ben. Also Ben 10 runs on a branching timeline so Ben fighting hal is a different Ben then the one killed

No it won’t beerus would fuck him up

half of the thead is laughing and the other half is calling bullshit, how did Hal won?

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Okay, Ben went Alien X and almost erased Hal from existence until Hal said “fuck that”. Then Alien X started using time travel when he began losing but that only gave Hal the idea to time travel to when the fight began before Ben could process it. Than Hal sliced Ben’s arm off so he couldn’t use the Omnitrix and stomped him with a boot construct

Chop hand + big boot

>Stabs Alien X with the anti-Mandrakk spear when he gets his will up
>Alien X time travels because its getting its ass kicked
>Hal copies the move
What were you watching?

Fucking Kilowag tanked the crisis and Hal crunched a bomb that was going to crunch the universe down to a particle.

BEWARE MY POWER

I don’t doubt this happened, but can you give a source?

>6 thoughts

WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO YOU IDIOT IT'S LINKED AT THE TOP

Beerus is strong but DLC Asura is on a whole other level.

Essentially if Beerus made Asura's kid cry (and you know that would be the reason they fight) Asura kills him.

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well, pulling power out of their asses IS the green lantern way

The lack of glove constructs is a tragedy

>That finisher
Ben 10? More like Ben Tenderized!

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ah fuck sorry, meant that for

What is the next fight

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>Hal crunched a bomb that was going to crunch the universe down to a particle.
Alien X wasn't even phased when the universe was destroyed. Completely unaffected.

>Muh 6 thoughts
It was an artist, not one of the writers. And it's simple math. 1 universe for 1 thought, 6 for 6. It's not impressive since active lanterns tanked the COIE like Kilowag.

>Fucked up time travel rules for Ben 10
You want to bring in DC time travel rules with hypertime and really fuck over Ben? Because we can do that if you want.

>Muh failsafe
Omnitrix isn't as fast as Hal. Give it a rest.

Yah Boi Ben got DIALED like the weak bitch he is. Cry more Kuro.

Excactly after Hal stabbed him he turned back time, and starting beating Hal again. Hal goes back in time, Alien X follows him and continues to beat his ass.

>Don't worry Jean I'll help you AAAAUUUUGHHHHHHH

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>Implying DC doesn't do branching time lines to
Hello? Hypertime? Do you even read comics?

Didn't Derrick J Wyatt do writing as well?

Ever hear of a guy named Krona?
He didn't survive Hal either.

Time travel is not to be fucked with

Course he doesn't. Like 3/4ths of this board don't and even then half the ones that do, don't really.

Then it still doesn't matter. It will just branch to a different timeline. Real Ben wouldn't be affected. So, why are Screwattack so bias again?

Weiss VS Mitsuru

So more RWBY shilling

U bomb was literally the Green Lantern issue before the present one.

How many multiverses does Alien X have under his belt? Because Mandrakk had 1, Krona had 1, Hal as Parallax had one.

How many again user?

rwby shilling
weiss vs. mitsuru

No the point is Alien X wouldn't be killed, which hypertime doesn't contradict retard.

Another skip then.

>artist
Screwattack brought it up and only said it was a joke not because an artist said it but because "it was just a joke lol".

RWBY shit vs Persona shit
No one cares. Waifu fags gonna cry and they're probably going to give the win to RWBY again since they're absolute Jews about batting for the home team.

So was Killowag.

>How many multiverses does Alien X have under his belt?
HE CAN DESTROY MULTIVERSE

Oh, I haven’t been reading Morrison’s run, still have to catch up on Hal and The GLC

Then is Superman or Batman always the one the that stop major threats? Hal should have the will to fight Mandrakk and not need a robot. Please explain this to a brainlet like me.

Not as far as I know.

>TFW Morrison is gonna handjob Hal even harder after this episode came out

How many? As many as he want.

Do Morrison even know about Death Battle?

Final Crisis to the lanterns looked like this:

>Holy fuck the multiverse is falling into a time and space warping black hole
>Let's get in there and fuck shit up!
>Holy fuck Superman why are you here what's that? Is that giant space vampire?
>STABS COSMIC VAMPIRE TO DEATH
>Well that was fucking weird

Isn't Cyborg built on New God Technology? I don't know enough about comic Iorn Man but wouldn't that give Cyborg the edge?

>Guy with no multiverse kills under his belt against a guy that has multiverse killers under his

The Dials
Go Up
To 11

>So was Killowag.
No killowag took something that destroyed a planet but left rubble. Alien X just stood as all returned to nothing.

>Why was the one to stab the final boss to death not the one to stop the major threat?

You are a brainlet.

Likely doesn't
Point is, Hal is gonna be handjobbed to the point of looking weak in this episode in comparison

I guess he could see it on Twitter

Dumb question but does that make GL's the "oldest" having not been recreated in a reboot but having kept continuity in such that their "self" is the same "self". Not sure if I'm wording this right due to the whole fuckery of reboots.

Darkseid is too much for Beerus, even Mxy would stomp on the King of All.

>my multiverse destroying power is more strongest than your multiverse destroying power

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Alien X could just create his own latern ring if he wanted to.

So each hero had their own indviual Final Crisis and only Superman used a robot?

>Alien X didn't just blink out Hal's power battery.

>Calling your Grandpa by your first name.

You know I never got why they called him "Grandpa Max" so casually. Is that a white thing to do or am I just out of the loop?

>Some random broad waifu from Persona
Fucking hell, they really scraped the barrel bottom to find someone to justify Weiss winning against, huh?

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Yes yes well done, Chad Lanterns...

HOWEVER

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>injustice

Eh it was just the obvious match up

Ice Queen bitches who use rapiers and summon stuff

Like how theyll do Maka from Soul Eater VS Ruby Rose if they ever get around to her.

When you have both sets of grandparents alive, it's common either to use variation of the name, aka grampy vs grandpa, or say Grandpa X

Hal has willed it back
Don't ask

Along with a few other characters. All the New Gods were unaffected, monitors, endless. Barry Allen by virtue of out running death the whole time. Superboy prime, obviously. Psycho Pirate remembered it. Both Constantine and Superman are aware of it. A bunch of earth 2 heroes.

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His ring isn't magic, it is really advanced technology that harvests raw emotion.

>it is really advanced technology
So magic

I sure hope you know what the anti-monitor did during COIE...

What would hal Do with the Omnitrix, since from what I hear, he cut of Ben's arm and killed him?
Use it for himself?
Give it to the Guardians?

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Can Hal like Superman take True Darksied? I know you all hate this term, power level. Hal should be more powerful than Superman, but isn't for reasons....

Thanks, and wow that's quite a few people must be confusing in their head how so many different timelines they've lived

It gets weirder once you factor in Zero Hour.

DC's observable universe is larger than Ben 10's.

He was confiscating it since it was an illegal weapon

Did you read the book?
Literally everyone from Batman to Flash played a role in stopping Final Crisis.

Specter got BTFO though. Off-panel no less.

Because comics are inconsistent and writers will wank whoever it is they like more. OR DC just wants their Big Blue Boyscout to stay on top as much as they can.

Some more than most. Superman remembers some things from pre crisis, everything from both post crisis and the new 52, plus everything ongoing at the moment.

Give it to the Guardians, depending if they’re corrupt at the time or not

Probably not, but I think he'd give him a good fight. Supermans power sit in a weird place and often play with meta much more than Hal.

Reminder that this will be streamed on Wednesday with comments allowed
Don't get any funny thoughts Yea Forums

He speared Krona with all the emotional spectrum entities slaved to him so quite possibly if he got the drop on Shin Darksied.

No, no I didn't. Complete greenhorn when it come to most Yea Forums media. I am visiting from /m/.

Maybe Kyle gets to dick around with it for art purposes

>That scene from The Kingdom where Bruce remembers Kathy Kane for a split second
Broke my heart as a silver age fag.

hahahhahahah

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Okay, if Hal can travel back in time to cut of Ben's arm, what's stopping Alien X travelling back in time and chopping of Hal's finger? This is ignoring the implication of time travelling creating alternate timeline because Screwattack wants to ignore that part.

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Injustice is an actual joke, no one takes that earth seriously accept casuals who want some batwank

Real Talk. Is Hal the shonen hero of superhero comics?

Emotional spectrum shit is magitech at the least. The Red Lanterns use blood magic and wards, and the Guardians have conjured up rings just using their cosmic space dwarf powers.
And the emotional entities that power them all are essentially the Chaos Gods from Warhammer 40K. It's definitely not full tech shit.

So if we are just using time travel wins logic shouldn't this fight boil down to "who thought to time travel first wins"? Why does Hal think of it first? Ben could have time traveled to before Hal got the ring too. Why does Hal get the BOD of thinking of it first?

How do time travelers stop other time travelers?

Hal being faster on the draw.
Even (((Mastered))), it reacts as fast as Ben reacts.

Hal reacts much faster.

Ever seen Bill and Ted 2? In a time travel duel the one that acts first wins.

More like hard headed side main. MC has to be one we can self-insert with. Spiderman?

hand it over to the guardians since it's an illegal weapon

But can't Alien X just travel back in time before Hal? What's stopping him from doing that?

He not only is but he predates shonen characters like how King Kong predates giant monster characters and Mary Marvel predates magical girl characters.

The Japanese are not a creative race. Before WW2 their culture was copypasta from China, now its copypasta from America.

I am a turbotier benfag, but how does hal cut through alien x?
like, the rest of the fight, even hal's win, i have no problems with, but only a celestialsapien can actually harm another celestialsapien

Ben has the idea first but doesn't know that Hal can time travel to and thinks he can just win if he hits Hal before he goes full Jordan Instinct.

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He's harmed beings several dimensions above his own and could influence the multiverse

It's whoever hits the time stream first, like an old west showdown.

If they hit the time stream before you do you're continuity fucked.

seeI went through similar feelings a few years back during the first episode of the current Supergirl tv show, where she was trying on clothing and walks in with the headband on.

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HEATchads GET IN HERE

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feeling REAL good right now

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Ever hear of a little imp man named Krona and a cosmic multiverse vampire named Mandrakk?

Lanterns have absurd damage outputs when they want to, probably because destruction is a lot easier to do than creation.

Okay, guys hear me out

Nero

Vs

Giorno Giovanna

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Hal has defeated beings equivalent to or stronger than celestialsapiens

Crazy Hal with just Ion was able to defeat the Specter and destroy and remake the universe.

Krona had all 7 entities and Hal went LET'S TEAR THE THROTTLE OFF and stabbed him to death.

>Okay, if Hal can travel back in time to cut of Ben's arm, what's stopping Alien X travelling back in time and chopping of Hal's finger?
Because if Hal does it first (which he can because his ring is faster than Ben's brain) Alien X can't do anything if Ben is already dead.
>This is ignoring the implication of time travelling creating alternate timeline
With DC lore, time is pretty linear and even has those Doctor Who-style "fixed points".
Unless you do something to really fuck things up (see Flashpoint or Rock of Ages). To DC "alternate timeline" just means "you fucked up and need to go back".

But that doesn't lead reason that Ben wouldn't just act on it first.

Honestly if this is a death battle shouldn't the two combatants just be going all out instantly and going for the kill only? Therefor logically speaking Ben would go straight to Alien X and just instantly try to remove Hal from existence, it would fail, then his followup for best plan of action is beat Hal at time travel acting on it first.

Almost everybody was able to defeat that jobber Specter.

>Benfaggots faces when it happens

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Not really. The omnitrix is advanced tech and was never treated as magic. Also if the ring was magic them Superman would be vulnerable to it.
The emotional spectrum is but not the rings. Ben could technically use upgrade the hack the ring, wouldn't be the first time someone does it.
Probably hand it to the guardians. Hal genuinely believes the ring is the strongest weapon in the universe and seeing Ben job so hard would probably throw him off from wanting to use it.
>Complete greenhorn when it come to most Yea Forums media. I am visiting from /m/.
You should give GL a shot user. The war of light is pretty much Lost Galaxy with space cops.

If you want to be full Jew about it Hal could waste Ben before he even touches the dial and do it faster than the failsafe can react.

As far as cosmic entities go atleast he isn't Galactus tier.

Poor Galactus exists just to lose.

But to Alien X time is relative. He can just will himself to move before Hal and he will.

Why are we followinv DC's time travel rules? Why not Ben 10's? Also, having Ben 10 not getting the omnitrix is up there in the super fucked up spectrum. So, even following DC's rule Hal would still be ruining everything.

>Hal in Chicago
Fuckin sik.

Time Travel in DC works in both the alt timeline sense and terminator sense, probably because the nature of hypertime is such that timelimes are naturally merging and breaking off all the time to explain retcons and idiosyncrasies.

>Time is relative
Ben fought the Alien Gladiator in a pretty linear fashion.

Give it up Cryin' Kuro.

Giorno will probably fight Persona 5 Joker

So if Goku vs Superman created Salt the Programmer what did this create? Cryin' Kuro?

Who vs who and can it be bikini wrestling?

The fuck is this J-pop sounding shit?

Somewhere, there is a universe where Gwen became the teen lantern and was mentored by Hal.

Because he is fighting someone on an equal level. The fight needs to be shown as they were in judgement.

Superman only took on True Darkseid because he “sang.” It had nothing to do with powerlevels. I’m sure Black Canary could have done the same shit too.

Also:
>Post Crisis Hal >>>>>> Post Crisis Superman

>Pre-Crisis Superman >>>> Pre Crisis Hal

Is Green Lantern vs Ben 10 now on par with at least Galactus vs Unicron in terms of being a heated topic?

>claims fusions wouldn't have changed anything
>when Clockwork has reversed time on a multiversal scale but is weak as fuck physically but didn't even mention him barring a passing note

>Not knowing that vibrations have been the ultimate power in DC since Flash of Two Worlds
Casual.

They've been teasing Galctus vs Unicron since season 1. When the fuck are we going to get it?

Pacifica Vs that brown skinned waifu sport girl that wears orange. I don’t remember the show

The picosecond Ben turns into something not Alien X he's omni-fucked.

>Not knowing that vibrations have been the ultimate power in DC since Flash of Two Worlds
I meant that it’s not conventional powerlevels. At least not in the way most people interpret it

They said they want to make it as best as possible given the sheer scale and hype of it and that it would have to be a season finale
They also said its been declining in demand over the years

>brown skinned sport girl that wears orange
Pics?

Well no shit its been in declining demand since they've passed it up every season.

>But to Alien X time is relative.
Zoom is faster than the Flash because he exists outside of normal time and that doesn't stop Hal either.
Plus, the "6 thoughts, one multiverse" guy confirmed that Ben still needs to consult his other personalities in Alien X to make things happen, he's just "better at it". Hal has no such limits.

But the Omnitrix is capable of resurrection as seen with Chromastone

Can anyone knowledgeable on Hal tell me if he has to de-age people or fuck with souls?

They got a pretty fucking good VA for Hal. Ben's voice was horrible.
Looked it up and the same guy apparently voiced Sonic in the fight with Mario. Shame because he did a perfect impression of Roger Craig Smith.

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Yes.

Literally the only limit on what the ring can do is your imagination and will.

But why are we following DC's time rules?

Legit wanna see it happening. Fuck Tony Stark.

>de-age people
Can't recall him doing that, but he has healed before and that's not really different.

>fuck with souls?
Yeah he's done that before. Put them back in someone's body when they were removed, taken his own outside his body and still kept his powers while doing so. He also willed himself back to life when he was dead once, so I guess that counts.

Has Hal ever shown multiversal time manipulation? Otherwise fusions not changing the outcome would be pretty wrong

>age manipulation
Rings can do that. A infamous old story had an underage girl Lantern making herself look older with the ring so she and Hal could hook up. Yes, Hal was called a pedo for that both in lore and IRL.
>soul manipulation
I remember a female GL used her ring to go on the astral plane and kill Cyborg Superman in his true soul form, but I don't know if they can directly affect souls.

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Good. Fuck cartoonfags of Yea Forums.

Jesus. Did they really had to kill a kid?

>death battle

Ion Kyle did.

Don't blame them
Blame Ben's lack of good sprites causing them to resort to a flash game

Alien x himself is immune to time fuckery, so unless Ben changes back, nothing can affect him. Even then, the time travel thing wouldn't affect him because branching timeline. Does Screwattack actually do any research here? Their DC bias is pretty obvious here.

Atomix-X was affected by the Chronosapien time bomb

Did you miss what happened in Charizard vs Greymon?

Because the ring is a product of DC comics and follows its time rules, and Hal is faster than Ben and can screw with time first.
But that's all academic. Realistically Hal's speed and power would let him land a fatal blow before Ben could even transform into anything.

Ben has custom 16 year old sprites though
Tai was also a kid in that fight. Also that fight was retarded conceptually
>uh it's called pokemon vs digimon because it's a fight between the two franchises
>not ash and pikachu

You don't want them to use branching timelines. Believe me.

If they did the multiverse lanterns about to show up in Green Lantern would fuck Alien X.

Atomix X isn't Alien X. Same thing when the snot alien uses Alien X DNA to create that Alien X arm and sword. That isn't Alien X.

Pokemon fags would have complained if they used Ash instead of Red.

Hal's speed has always been the biggest factor in this fight and the one that Benfaggots keep ignoring.

Realistically, Ben would be resurrected and get transformed into Alien X because failsafe.

>Ben has custom 16 year old sprites though
And they look like ass

>Tai was also a kid in that fight.
You saying a kid killing another kid in anger isn't just as bad? Some might say it's even worse.
>not ash and pikachu
They wanted Pokemon fans to watch it, user. Hardcore Pokefaggots hate Ash Ketchum

>Omniverse fucked Ben over by antifeats making Alien X not omnipotent
wew

But then you have multiple Ben's. But this isn't about them. This is about Ben vs Hal.

Not how it works.

What? How?

It doesn't work like that fucker because Ben is a product of Man of Action and it works on their time travel rules.

Ben sorta missed a thing or two when recreating the universe

Why is it this match up that has caused Yea Forums to have multiple threads?

>resurrected
This is Death Battle, not Cartoon Fight Club. Once your heart stops beating, it's over. It was the same rule with Doomsday and his resurrection gimmick.

It’s Ben 10 fanboys vs Green Lantern/DC fanboys. It’s literally comics vs cartoons, you got the comics fans on one side and the cartoon fans on the other

That was Ben, the human element. And even then Alien X recreated everything else perfectly. Even to things he doesn't know. From my headcanon anyway. The mistake was only there to show that he indeed recreated the universe and not just reverse time.

Did he do that because those are some of Ben's weaknesses

That's not how it works

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Dude. CFC is the shit. Oh well 2015 CFC.

>two iconic Yea Forums characters, one of which is revered intensely by autismos
>comics vs cartoons
>shocked that Yea Forums wants to talk about them

hmmm now why could that be, I just don't get it.

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Even if it has failsafe bullshit for its wearer, what would ever even stop Hal from just outright destroying the Omnitrix itself? Is it made of Indestructium or anything in universe?

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A grown adult murdering a kid is a bit more fucked up my dude especially since Hal was the aggressor along with straight up murdering him after he had no way of fighting back and Hal had what he came for in the first place.
>Galactic Gladiator fucking up, Chronosapien Time Bomb and not stopping the universe from being destroyed
Also that Chronosapien Time Bomb thing proves Alien X isn't immune to time shit either like claimed

To my recollection the Omnitrix can be damaged and at many points hacked by some alien before.

But they're both revered by autismos

As opposed to the sprite they used in the battle?

Didn't watch Omniverse
Did Ben not realizing he could prevent the collapse a plot point or did he just convince the heads too late?

Well if he can do that, Hal win since Ben was screwed when someone de-aged him in omniverse

Oh for sure, but come on, only one gets incest art requested on mass.

>tfw HEATfags would have blown up SA headquarters if Hal lost
Clearly rigged against Ben literally the same as Yang vs Tifa honestly

That's exactly how it works little zoomer. Hal can do it first, so it works the way he makes it work. When Ben becomes FTL in base, which probably won't be too long given how his shitty little franchise works, he can do what a big boy like Hal does.

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Ben's 16 year old sprites look so ass looking even for the worst sprites Death Battle has used

Too late

doesn't matter if it is, Hal could just mess with his soul

>Galactic Gladiator
It was a judgement fight where therm multiverse need to be perserved. Of course they ain't throwin around existence erasin shit. But yes, you are right they need to agree and make a judgement to do anything.

>time bomb

If HEAT was still active, the guy who directed thr Green Lantern movie would've been poisoned and Dwayne McDuffie would've died in a drive by instead of passing away from medical conditions

>especially since Hal was the aggressor along with straight up murdering him
Hal did procure a child as a GF this one time.
He isn't really that good with kids aside from his nephew and niece.

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Not how it works. Branching timeline fucker.

>instead of passing away from medical conditions
that's just what HEAT wants you to think happened

Nothing.

>The Celestialsapien Alien X fought lost to a black hole
>Hal killed Krona and stopped a U-Bomb
>Hal is much faster than Alien X

Hal had the speed and the power to drop X. Cry more Benfaggots.

Okay so wouldn't that mean he could've stopped the bomb?

>The Omnitrix has a fail-safe that kicks in in the event that the user's life is in jeopardy. This feature turns him into the needed alien to survive.
The Omnitrix doesn't revive its user, it only helps him not die.
What alien could even have helped Ben? The Worst?

>Black Hole
It was an Alien X hole.

>speed
Time is relative to Alien X.

>power
6 thoughts.

>only good for power level wanking
>ends up fucking Ben over by reducing his power levels
W E W
>RWBYG soon
They can't keep getting away with this.
Clockwork has his time hax which is superior to Hal's. Doesn't Ben have that alien that allows him to use other alien's shit or did that count too much as outside help?

>especially since Hal was the aggressor
Hal did nothing wrong, he's a good Jewish man, doing his job, trying to protect his sector from dangerous superweapons. All Ben had to do was let the GLs scan the Omnitrix and they'd have given it back.

He even tried to de-escalate the situation ("Kid, let's stop this before things get heated.") but Ben forced him to do the unthinkable.

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So glad Hal blew zoomers the fuck out

>Time is relative to Alien X.
Time is relative to every fucking person in the universe you retard. You don't even understand the fucking words you use.

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>6 thoughts.
People keep saying that but does that matter when making thoughts into reality is kind of the Green Lantern ring's main thing anyway?

Benfags have never made bomb threats.
Both Ben and Fourarms sprites were fucking atrocious, also they were willing to use Lucy in its entirety and the shitty hand drawn art style for a bunch of characters. Hell why not just hand draw 16 year old Ben, it's not like he was going to be animated for very long.
>cut off his arm
>Ben is clearly defenseless and in pain
>kill him and make a reference to shit in the past over being mad
>nothing wrong

>he's a good Jewish man
>"In Prime Earth continuity it is stated that Hal was raised in a household with two religions. His father is Catholic and his mother is Jewish"

He's been shown more often in catholic churches and even had his marriage in one at the end of Johns run.

>Doesn't Ben have that alien that allows him to use other alien's shit or did that count too much as outside help?
I think that would in fact count as outside help

Outside help to a degree if its not standard equipment, not bound via contract, and has independence

Why does GL always job to Superman?

>Doesn't Ben have that alien that allows him to use other alien's shit or did that count too much as outside help?
That would be outside help but fusion doesn't. Also, calling out powers while in human form doesn't too. But screwattack said those would be useless. So, yeah. They nerf Ben.

Surprised Hal won without central battery or parallax form

>6 Thoughts
Vs 6 words.

Alien X look at time is like Dr. Mahattan but Alien X is just stronger.

>Superman
answered your own question. It's Superman. He does OP stuff even in universe.

>It was an Alien X hole
And it was a Green Lantern spear that kicked his ass.

based

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wouldn't the Omnitrix transform him into an alien to prevent his arm from getting cut?

or is this a situation where Hal would win but the way they showed it in the animation is bullshit

Every Death Battle winner goes full psycho for the coup de grace. Aquaman had Namor get eaten alive and joked about it.

An amputation isn’t exactly fatal like a Big Bang to the face

No user. Hal travled to before that was a thing.

The one time Pre Crisis they fought Hal kicked Clark's ass.

To be fair if he actually needed it its not as if the Guardians could stop him anymore than they did last time.

Also Hal gave no proof of his credentials barring claims and has done pedophilic shit before, and attempted to immediately take away his only means of defense. Not only that, he assumed Ben was capable of removing the Omnitrix or that he illegally possessed the item, when Ben is clearly on American soil with his second amendment right to bear arms including literal ones.

>or is this a situation where Hal would win but the way they showed it in the animation is bullshit
This is always the case for Death Battle. They state in the rules that the animation doesn't reflect how the actual fight would go, it's just to display the victor win in a cool way. Would be kinda boring if Superman immediately punched Goku so hard the multiverse collapsed, no?

>bleeding out isn't fatal

It takes time for the device to function and the DNA to change.

What part of "Hal is fucking fast" do you Benfaggots not get?

Everything means stuff from Ben 10000 too which he doesn't have to transform to use powers

>Doesn't Ben have that alien that allows him to use other alien's shit
That's literally another entity that's attatched to the Omnitrix, so it's very much outside help.

>cut off his arm
It was his only option.
>Ben is clearly defenseless and in pain
In the heat of the moment Hal couldn't know what other tricks he had up his sleeve, no pun intended.
>kill him and make a reference to shit in the past over being mad
Even Hal said it hurt to laugh, he was clearly distraught over the entire situation. The poor insane child's death took its toll on the man
>nothing wrong
Sometimes cops have to make tough decisions in the line of duty. It's sad but he did what he had to do
True but by Jew law a Jewish mother makes you at least ethnically one

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Ben had no reason to trust Hal who engages in pedophilic activities and is trying to take his only means of defense away without waiting for consent. This is evidently a Jewish pedophile infringing on American soil and killing a red blooded American child over laws in other areas.

It hurted to laugh because he was bleeding all over

Hal's mother was a Guardian?

Hal Jordan has fought and defeated Superman and even knocked him out at full strenght of his power. He's defeated General Did and many krpytonians.

He travel around the universe if not the Multiverse and fought some of the most cosmic forces and creatures that even Ben himself would start shaking.

He had no fear, even Batman doesn't phase him. I'm fact he thinks Batman a joke a man in a suit to him.

He fought the most powerful beings in the universe.

He's manage at full strenght and power catch up to flash (He had to put immense work in it).

And you think this kid had a chance with him.

Some of you all are deluded.

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No, just a bitch. Wouldn’t see her son on her deathbed because he became a pilot

deathbattle has always had a bias for the more western and nostalgic series

*General Zod

>Wouldn’t see her son on her deathbed because he became a pilot
Sounds like a Jew Guardian to me

>t. Creator of this

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You have been visited by the fighter pilot god of Hamoigahs.

Salty Benfaggots and armless losers will come to you but only if you reply with BEWARE MY POWER, GREEN LANTERN'S LIGHT!

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Clearly you don't know how powerful Hal Jordan or a Green Lantern Is? When the Corp is not being jobbed they're true capabilities are more powerful.

Even Superman knows not to Fuck with them.

Think about that brainlet

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Bullshit ending

Why would I want those losers near me?

t Cope

Ganthet has a seat on the quintessence alongside Highfather, Zeus, Phantom Stranger, and the Specter for a damn good reason.

>BEWARE MY POWER, GREEN LANTERN'S LIGHT!

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Yes and yes.

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BEWARE MY POWER, GREEN LANTERN'S LIGHT!

>First 3D match is Widowmaker vs Black Widow
Meh, next one will be more interesting
>RWBY shit
Time for a 3 week break

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based

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SALT THE PROGRAMMER ON SUICIDE WATCH

>the guardians of the universe were explcitly based on the founder of Israel
>turn out to be megalomaniacal and even try to turn the universe into mindless drones
What did DC Comics mean by this?
Ben is part alien himself he's not a real American. Let's see his birth certificate.

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This

>Jewish pedophile kills American child exercising his rights and wanted to forcibly take something attached to his body without his consent

>What did DC Comics mean by this?
Are they, dare I say it, /ourguys/?

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Specter isn't on the Quintessence. Phantom Stranger is the Heaven rep likely because he's a lot better at negotiating than Mr. Wrath-and-Kill.

Spectre Hal killed Darkseid like he was nothing

As /int/ has clearly shown, all Americans are part alien so that isn't proof.

>It hurted to laugh because he was bleeding all over
Hal's power stems from his emotions. He was such emotional shock from being forced to hurt the miserable crazed lunatic boy that it became psychosomatic.

Can we get XJ9 vs Robot Boy now?
Preferably hand animated after getting Luis drunk again

Hal was kind of a dick to John when he became a Lantern too I think.

>Ganthet reps The Guardians
>Highfather New Genesis
>Zeus the pagan gods
>Shazam...also the pagan gods?
>Phantom Stranger...possibly Heaven?

Hal is DC's token conservative and thus the only truly based DC character

>Death battle
Not even once.

I can already smell the spite art from both sides

I think Shazam reps Magic in general

Unironically agree. I would rather Hal will himself up and power through the fight instead of using time travel. First Endgame, now this.

as Parallax, yeah

>Hawkman weeps in the corner

shazam represents dead/forgotten gods, zeus represents living ones maybe?

That's Hawkman

No, it clearly was from psychopathic laughter as he killed yet another American boy or goyim for having dared to exercise the rights given to him.

What does six thoughts even mean? Where does one thought end and the next begin?

Stranger is Heaven and Hell as he's the only one in all of creation able to see both their sides and the side of man.

Yeah I think that's it. Shazam is magic while Zeus is gods in general.

Wally?

Is this was old Yea Forums we would've gotten OC of these two interacting

Does this mean Ollie is best goy?

He's currently the token psychopath.

Hal's half Catholic too user.

i mean after gaara lost and after gundam lost it was clear their biases
they went out of their way to look at all the expanded universe shit Prime had but specifically used the weakest gundam

Thank Christ we aren't old Yea Forums.

I can’t find her. It’s obscure but the character was prominent here. She wore orange, and the entire series was about a “Sport”. Can’t recall if it was about Basketball or Rollarskates.

hal's not a conservative, he's just a bonehead

I think it refer to the 3 thoughts inside Alien X's head (Ben and the other 2 faces). Ben will probably gain more thoughts as he matures.

his mother is Jewish and his father is Catholic, he's both

Either way, more people for the cause. More people that would see DB biases.

I could see them getting along pretty well

>Catholic Guilt plus Jewish mom
No wonder Hal became God of Willpower.

Hawkman and Wally are also conservative.

Nope, DCU is larger and more powerful.

Ben lost clean faggot. Admit it.

>after gundam lost it was clear their biases
Your deluded if you think that runs an had a chance in the afterlife with Optimus Fucking Prime.

Your being a sore loser.

Then why does Hal hang out with that retard Ollie?

based and greenpilled

Panda Delgado vs Kim Possible

*Gundam

Sometimes you hang out with people dumber than you are to make it seem you're smarter than them

Yea Forums should be dead desu

They went the RX-78-2 because it was the most requested Gundam tied with God Gundam and fit the OG theme they wanted to do

you're thinking of Guy, he's a canonical Reagan supporter

Hal has defied his Guardian masters time and again and eats bacon he is a based Jew. And the poor boy was likely on drugs, he looked like a monster half the time. Obviously the product of bad influences. That "Grandpa Max" is clearly a crime lord in the vein of Ma Gnucci.

Then why doesn't Hal hang out with rotten guacamole?

>All these other feats Ben got? They don't count. Those are jokes obviously.
>Ben 10 time rules? Nuh uh, we will use DC's just because.
Pathetic.

Yeah but Hal is more of a practicing Catholic.

you are unaware how much bullshit newtypes are supposed to have

I believe you're thinking of Baskup

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Nope. Ben 10 is larger, more powerful, more coherent and more versatile.

You unaware how many power trips Optimus has whenever he dies?

and even then Amuro has his own abilities

Hal evidently wanted to fiddle that kid. He also clearly wanted to steal his expensive watch and probably his foreskin too like the jew he is despite it being in Ben's legal right to possess both of them because Hal has never seen Americans wielding either.

he doesn't really seem to practice anything, I guess after God is your boss for a while you don't need to bother.

@107705980
t Bait

Then why didn't he go for the penis after disarming him?
Why the shoe?

i am aware they specifically used Amruo at his weakest and the weakest Gundam
but decided they could use the entire bullshit of the expanded universe when it came to Optimus

Largely due to that being a redundancy, guacamole tastes like shit even fresh

Perfect, user. You’re the best

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Jewish custom. A lot were cobblers in the old country.

>Omnitrix literally thinks 1,000,000 steps ahead and activates a failsafe if the user is about to die
>Ben is literally immortal

How do they address this?

So is DJW gonna confirm he wasn't joking?

It's just a Biblical reference, like in the New Testament New Jerusalem refers to an ultimate Heaven where all people who believe in Christ are allowed into Heaven.

Nope.
Powerman.

hold on green lantern can go back in time when ever he wants what

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They have Hal cut his arm off fast enough

He's Catholic too user, New Testament>Old Testament.

Hal's also a footfag because being Jewish, a pedophile and terrorist weren't enough.

>taking the word of the artist as the wog
>not realizing one emotional entity is enough to wreck and remake a universe and Hal beat all six at once

You should have Bewared My Power.

They just don't.

You dial bros won't be so chipper when Punisher FRANKEDS Red Hood

That’s Mia Rodriguez, If I Remember Correctly

>immortal
nice joke. Only immortal till someone strong enough comes along.

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>the man who one shot Mandrakk is more powerful than some idiot kid
No way

What Screwattack just ignore or don't address properly with Ben 10.
>failsafe
>6 thoughts
>Ben 10 universe time travel rules

Even Taker’s streak has to end sometime. Frank killing Jason would be an acceptable end.

Catholic pedophile is a bit redundant though. Also still ethnically Jewish.
It's either him or Winter Soldier. Also
>street level characters
Just put Demonbane against Cosmic Armor Superman if you want to work the dials into a seethe

He's Catholic too user that's why he eats bacon.

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Cutting the arm off and then killing Ben.

OBUNGA

He practiced Catholicism as a child, once a Catholic always a Catholic, plus the word Catholic literally means universal so it fits perfectly.

Who would win? Daredevil in the Punisher shirt or Ric Grayson?

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>failsafe
Not fast compared to Hal. In fact it’s very slow.

>6 thoughts
Said by the artist, not the writer. In canon Alien X has never destroyed a single universe. And even if we accept the statement Hal has harmed multiverse level beings before.

>time travel rules
Falls under the neutral universe clause of Death Battle. If we use hypertime Ben is ultra fucked.

people are still salty over rwby

Wait what did DJW say?

Thanks guys. This just proves that Goku can kill Hal easy peasy. Goku is faster, stronger, more destructive. With faster than time and universe level attacks, Hal would be dust nefore he notices it.

You have no taste user.

Yang vs Tifa was transparently biased.

>failsafe
I don't see how this would even work after cutting Ben's arm

If it's neutral universe why did they go with DC's universe time travel rule?

Hal uses boxing gloves and other typical items like shoes all the time, he's just practical.

Only thing wrong was that they didn’t have Hal fly a speed force jet into Alien X.

There's a 90 percent chance Weiss will win for shill purposes even after the researchers got promoted
Also RWBY sucks

6 thoughts

The watch doesn't have to be on Ben's arm. This is proven with Ben 10000.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHWHAHAH.

Hal Jordan has defeated Superman and Zod and at full strenght can be multi-universal and even go back in time and make you non-existent.

Thanks for the laugh though.

>what is hypertime?
If it was DC Hal would have killed kid Ben and then a flood of multiverse lanterns arrive to subdue Alien X in the other timelines.

With good reason. It was very clear that Screwattack was licking RoosterTeeth’s ass with that one.

>RWBY sucks
nice opinion

Superman fucked Hal up more times than Hal can count.

Wasn’t his arm still connected via portal?

He aged her up, doesn't count. Also that shit exist in every culture, anti-fags just like to pretend it's exclusive to one religion.

>With good reason
>a thing happens i didnt like

>faster than time
lmao fuck off with this bullshit.

Speed is irrelevant if you’re “faster than time.” You’re just pulling that out of your ass.

>what is hypertime
Nothing because this should be a neutral universe. So, why did they use DC's time travel rules again?

Poor bait.

she actually aged herself up because she wanted a piece of Hal's sweet ass and he thought she looked too young

They went with both, dumb ass, Hal used his more effectively first.

>never question Death Battle, otherwise you’re just salty
lmao imagine being this much of an NPC

PPG Battle Royale

I don't think that's going to fly in court.

Yes and no. That was because of a specific technology but what that episode proves is that the watch can function even without Ben. It would just take over the arm.

Correct.

Only when Hal jobbing.
I agree that superman can get one in Hal if Hal doesn't focus or put his effort or planned it out. But if Hal ready to brawl superman then Kal really isn't going to win especially when Hal not jobbing.

>NPC
nice maymay

Code Lyoko episode when?

If it was both, that would mean Hal just created an alternate reality where Ben got his arm cut off. It shouldn't affect current Ben.

Yes he was one of the main guys in the writers room behind Youngberg. People used to dismiss him as “just an artist” back when Omniverse was airing.

>Implying the winner wont' obviously be Bubbles.

Green Lanterns can travel ALL the Multiverse and timelines as easy as Flash.

Speaking of this, can't Death Battle just contact the guy to see if it was just a joke or not?

No way. Supes ends up with the Last most powerful GL ring of all time in the end anyway, GSP1M+GL ring+Infinite willpower > Hal even as good as he is.

I still don't know how hal beats a immortal.

Are you sure he's immortal?

No DCs rules would take over when its a DC guy doing it. Stop being obtuse.

Doesn't matter because it would still branch out. Want to kill current Ben? Go kill current ben.

If her body is 18+ it's technically legal.

Hal as parallax knocked out Supes with one punch....

Your speaking in circles,
Enough

That was different, for all intents and purposes Ben and the watch were still together, straight up cutting the arm instead of sending Ben to the void is different.

>if Ben's aliens are 18+ it's technically legal
Still sounds like a sex offender

>immortal guardians of the universe
Literally in the name.

>ignores GSP1M with GL ring and infinite willpower

Superman takes Hal 9/10

And yet he was killed by a enegry blast?

is beating the shit out of him even impressive anymore

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The watch literally take over the arm without Ben knowing about it.

>using a non-canon comic.
That's just straight pathetic dude.
Now your being desperate.

But why wouldn't Ben 10 rules take over when Ben dies and create an alternate reality?

Are you talking about Superman 1 million? Cause if so l, I agree.

It's more than just energy. It's willpower.

BECAUSE HE'S FUCKING DEAD YOU IMBECILE

Superman holds back all the time, he lets others knock him around all the time because he doesn't want to kill them.

user,
That comic is non canon

Yes.

>BECAUSE HE'S FUCKING DEAD YOU IMBECILE
But it doesn't work like that with Ben 10's time travel rules.

It is but there's nothing wrong with it either, again Supes holds back all the time, the universe is like cardboard to him.

Of course that superman 1 Million would win. That takes place in Grant Morrison version of the "Fifth World" that was inspired by Jack Kirby vision of it. Superman in that time is OP!

True

>That takes place in Grant Morrison version of the "Fifth World" that was inspired by Jack Kirby vision of it. Superman in that time is OP!
Nope. That's regular Superman just in the future. Fifth world is something else.

Cosmic armor Superman is stronger than 1 Mill

>But it doesn't work like that with Ben 10's time travel rules.
I would love to be in the room to see your IQ get tested.

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It's irrelevant if its a joke or not. Hal's hurt and killed people with multiverse powers before.

Yes but GSP1M is just the lower dimensional form of the TR.

>this is your brain on talmudvision

Any writing credits or is he literally just an artist with no input?

No it does take place in the future.
However (Grant Morrison who made it) said he was inspired by Jack Kirby vision of the Fifth World (how human would become the "New Gods") of the cycle.

Grant Morrison was a huge fan of Jack Kirby and his work (Fourth World). And used his vision as inspiration user.

So, tell me. In a neutral universe, why does DC's time travel rules take precedence to Ben 10's time travel rules? Don't say because Hal time travel first because rules are supposed to be passive.

Stronger than Golden powered superman himself that was warping realty to making his HOMEWORLD and his wife Lois user?

It isn't because Alien X is stronger.

Not that user, but why don't you guys provide an actual answer? I'm not trying to start shit or anything, but why do you revert to "REEEEing"? Give the Nigga an answer.

Possibly,
But not faster.
And certainly not more durable since a black hole stopped one.

Nigga read the whole thread,
It's been answered..

That was an Alien X hole. Black Holes don't even look like that.

It literally is because Hal went first. They are passive until they take effect and only one activates when one one form of time travel is used. Ben is dead, you can't time travel to fix it.

What part of this are you not understanding?

read the fucking comment chain, they guy has been going in circles

>Black Holes don't even look like that.
idiot

The only answer in the thread is "just because". When people say that means Screwattack is showing bias towards DC, you guys instant start ridiculing the guy.

last part meant for

But that's stupid because the time travel rules in Ben 10 would passively protect him. Why does one trump the other? That isn't fair. Are you Halfags fair or not?

It's been explained,
Your just upset about the the ben kid lost to a seasoned veteran who has fought beings that even Ben himself wouldn't survived.

>The only reason Hal fought Ben is because he wanted to consficate his alien superweapon, as is his job
>He successfully does this by just cutting Ben's arm off with the Omnittix
>Proceeds to murder the 10 year old kid anyway despite being completely harmless now
What in the fuck

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>read the fucking comment chain, they guy has been going in circles
This,
I'm done feeding so.eone who dilebrately going in circles and being a gnat.

They never state in the show it was a black hole. Where do you get off thinking it was a black hole. Prove to me that it was a blacl hole.

Hal Jordan is a Jewish pedophilic terrorist, what did you expect?

t don't answer this user.
He's literally trolling.

>Gandalf shoots a fireball at Dumbledore
>durr why does the fireball hurt him, dumbledore could resist his own fireball

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It hasn't. Time travelling first isn't an answer as it shouldn't affect Ben in the first place.

Kuro calm down.

I'm going to use my willpower for you to stop being a faggot

IN BRIGHTEST DAY

BEWARE MY POWER, GREEN LANTERN'S LIGHT!

If Dumbledore has passive fire resistance, why would it affect him? This isn't even something as active as that. This is time travel in neutral universe. It's passive rules.

In a completely neutral universe there would be no alternate timeline shenanigans (which would favor Hal) because most time travel fiction assumes that time is linear. And that's what we'd have to work with because time travel does not and cannot exist.

>No it does take place in the future.
Yes, that's what I wrote I agree.

>However (Grant Morrison who made it) said he was inspired by Jack Kirby vision of the Fifth World (how human would become the "New Gods") of the cycle.

>Grant Morrison was a huge fan of Jack Kirby and his work (Fourth World). And used his vision as inspiration user.

Fair enough and true, what I mean is that the 5th world is officially it's own seperate thing due to Morrison and that 5th world story he did with those Japanese 5th worlders if memory serves me right.

Ok, so it depends on speed? or...Again, not trying to start shit. it just doesn't make sense.

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Ben was resisting arrest

IN BLACKEST NIGHT
NO FORESKIN SHALL ESCAPE MY SIGHT
LET THOSE WHO DON'T WORSHIP ISRAEL'S MIGHT
BEWARE MY POWER, GREEN LANTERN'S LIGHT

You cannot possibly be this retarded

First, it wouldn't favor Hal as there are jist as many Ben as there are Hal. Second, what you are saying is that the neutral universe follow the rules of one sect of time travel debate and I should just suck it up because your favourite character Hal win and it's canon? That isn't fair.

>Now is my chance to win this fight. I must enter this man’s mind and-AAAAAAAAAUUUUUUGGGGHHHH!!!!

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So, I'm retarded for saying Screwattack isn't fair.

IN BRIGHTEST IN BLACKEST NIGHT, NO EVIL SHALL ESCAPE MY SIGHT. TO ALL EVIL DOERS, BEWARE MY POWER
GREEEEEEEN LAAAAATERN MIGHTTTTTT

GL
FTW

You do realize Ben's rules (which work the same way in DC you idiot) would have protected first Hal from the initial time attack by Ben right?

No matter how you cut it your boy Ben dies.

>after years of powerwanking Benfags will now be hounded by Halfags

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I'm convinced you're just baiting.

That’s not the oath

when did they fight user I forgot

>work the same way
THEN WHERE IS THE DAMN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE BECAUSE BEN AIN'T AFFECTED BY THAT TIME TRAVEL KILL.

Karma

Then say the correct oath then in caps.

QUICKLY OR YOUR A SINESTRO SPY!

>implying
This would just be another Goku vs Superman. Toph vs Gaara. Now. Ben vs Hal.

IN BRIGHTEST DAY
IN BLACKEST NIGHT
NO EVIL SHALL ESCAPE MY SIGHT
LET THOSE WHO WORSHIP EVIL’S MIGHT
BEWARE MY POWER
GREEN LANTERN’S LIGHT

Just stop

IN BRIGHTEST DAY, IN BLACKEST NIGHT, NO EVIL SHALL ESCAPE MY SIGHT, LET THOSE WHO...UH...UM

FUCK. GET EM

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>this bait

HELL YEAH!

LONG LIVE THE CORP!
*CLAPS*

>Implying people don't know Goku vs Superman was accurate and Toph vs Gaara bullshit

Hal was possessed by someone (Krona I think?) and ambushed Superman by creating kryptonite.

>Superman’s peak strength is 100 tons.

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BEWARE MY POWER, GREEN LANTERN'S LIGHT!

BEWARE MY POWER, GREEN LANTERN'S LIGHT!!!!

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>Ben exercising his American rights
>Hal forcibly attempting to rid him of said rights due to wanting to push his beliefs onto American soil before killing him in cold blood
Sounds pretty terrorist to me.

>First, it wouldn't favor Hal as there are jist as many Ben as there are Hal.
That's not what I'm saying. If Hal goes back in time and kills Ben on neutral ground, it would not create an alternate timeline and Ben would be dead. This is why I said it favors Hal.
>Second, what you are saying is that the neutral universe follow the rules of one sect of time travel debate and I should just suck it up because your favourite character Hal win and it's canon? That isn't fair.
Kid, a neutral setting has *standardized* rules. Branching timelines in time travel fiction isn't standard. H.G. Wells didn't do that shit. Back to the Future didn't do that shit. Even The Magic School Bus didn't do that shit. Linear time travel with direct consequences IS STANDARD.

DC Presents 26

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GREEN LANTERNS ATTACK!
FOR THE CORP!

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one more thing
>"favourite"
God damn it, it's always the British
Leave, Britbong

This. The worst part is that if you use the Premium Heart and Final Heaven multipliers on striking force that they mention in the episode, Tifa’s full power exceeds the strength they gave Yang’s aura.

>Benfags this mad

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I'd be concerned about the next episode if I gave a shit about Persona.

By literal definition he has committed terrorism though.

and didit the guy who make it want him to have it so why the fuck is he trying to take it away

>american right to carry essentially a nuclear bomb
No

I saw some distinctly Chinese writing in the background, I don't think they were on American soil.
Obviously the little bastard Ben was trying to cause an international incident Hal saved the woeld.

ben was probably on his way to stop a crime then hal come out of nowhere to stop him

So, what you are saying is that Death Battle fight isn't canon and it doesn't show the true potential of Ben 10? Thanks user. Now.
>Ben shouldn't even be affected by the timeline change if he stays as Alien X. So, why did it affect him?

Not to mention all it took for a literal midget to KO Yang was to Judo throw her up into the ceiling of a train
>B-but she was tired from oneshotting mooks the day before

Yep, just look at the guy.

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Yes. Also by that logic GL was using unlawful weaponry to enforce laws from his area which still puts him in the wrong and also still committing terrorism.
A Chinese sign does not make it not America.

Love that picture

>a term so loosley defined it can apply to virtually any crime
user pls.

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So how powerful is Krona?

>use of violence and intimidation (forceful removal of items lawfully worn) especially against civilians (Ben), in the pursuit of political aims (laws from the GL Corps)
That's terror.

Krona killed Galactus and made his HQ out of his dead body while he was about to destroy both DC and Marvel.

You know how powerful Parallax Hal was where he was destroying and recreating the universe and beating the Specter?

That was with one emotional entity slaved and 1 gimped and weakened one in his head.

Krona had 7.

If Ben was gonna do that he would've told Hal, and Hal would've gladly helped him and this would've been a Brave and the Bold story.

But Ben was up to no good.
Remember the Men in Black movie?
>"An 8 year old white girl, bunch of monsters, in the middle of the ghetto, at night? She's about to start some shit!"
Same principle.

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He's an oan,
That should be enough for you

>GL was using unlawful weaponry to enforce laws from his area
Perfectly in agreement with the law. Both Guardian law and that of the United States, as the GLs are specifically registered and their rings accepted. Sector 2814 encompasses earth.

Killed galactus by punching him to death. Took near every marvel and DC hero, plus a lot of villains, to beat. He still nearly won. Able to mind control and use the power of the entirety of the DC emotional spectrum. Killed a guy who had the entire power of a universe.

user please, leave that horseshit political definition on /pol/.

Why post Volcanna?

>lawfully worn
Not in sector 2814, it's not.

Hal isn't an American cop, Ben's not obliged to inform a citizen who unlawfully came to America what he's doing and Hal forcibly restricted his movement and attempted to take his item without even asking him what he was using it for even when he said he had reasons.
Ben was also using weapons lawfully accepted by the United States and another galactic organization.
That's literally the google definition though

>mention anything negative about the guardians
>”go back to pol”
It’s annodah emerald twilight!

>So, what you are saying is that Death Battle fight isn't canon and it doesn't show the true potential of Ben 10? Thanks user.
I don't remember saying anything about Ben's potential one way or the other. I do remember saying it was neutral territory, like all VS Battle shit is assumed to be. You new to powerlevel topics?
>>Ben shouldn't even be affected by the timeline change if he stays as Alien X.
Says who?

>HEATIDF already here attempting to justify Hal's terrorist actions, violation of several laws and possible attempt at pedophilic rape

Because Alien X exist outside of time and existence. Having one thing affect the timeline won't affect him.

>Ben was also using weapons lawfully accepted by the United States and another galactic organization.
Well then both being legal under conflicting systems, they had to fight. Might proved right and Hal won, therefore Guardian law supersedes whomever issues the Omnitrix.

Odds are after this fight a full investigation into them was put into place, leading to the confiscation of all of the Omnitrixes, and those who use them and create them being apprehended for endangering reality.

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>Google isn't political
Fuck off with that /pol/ shit faggot, go have your fix over there as much as you want.

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No real reason other than she's a top-tier waifu.
Hal is sanctioned. Earth chooses to respect the jurisdiction of the Guardians of the Universe.
He did restrict his movement but as you can see at the beginning of the footage, Ben was running. Clearly he was escaping a crime scene. That he reacted with hostility to Hal attempting to examine his weapon showed his true intent.

Still waiting for the Cyclops one, but nobody even knows what to do with him. Don't even care if they give him a win or loss at this point

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This, there’s no age of consent in space

>Benfags trying this hard
This just gets better and better.

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Hal has committed several acts considered to be unlawful and murdered a defenseless child already disarmed. He clearly was attempting to find any legal loophole to sate his bloodlust and Ben just happened to be there. The Omnitrix had to unleash an energy blast because it knew Hal was looking for a fight.
Ben was evidently choosing to travel using the most effective means available to him before Hal forcibly restricted him without consent over claims that he did not prove along with ignoring any claims made by Ben over his accusations.

this. They can't win the fight, so they start trying (and failing) to attack his character. Same thing the DBZtards do with Superman when they realize goku is outclassed.

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When I was a kid I always imagined that Superman's head ( heat vision only) would be a good match for Cyclops head but now I know better, Superman outclasses Cyclops with one eye close even if it's just a heat vision fight.

>murdered a defenseless child already disarmed.
He could time travel, no one is defenseless at that point. Hal had no idea if ben had set up any contingencies, so the threat existed and Hal took justified measures.

I mean let's be real if the X-Men were to fight the Justice League they'd have a better chance than the Avengers. But even the bullshit of Black Box Pheonix Cyclops would be like half a superman

Ben only time traveled in self defense. Hal was clearly doing more than just a lawful patrol given he didn't listen to Ben's reasons which included the ability to lawfully carry said galactic super weapon and attempted to take it by force.

But where was Ben going? What was his hurry? Again, you don't see small Caucasian children alone in bad neighborhoods too often. A drug deal gone wrong? Gwen dead in a ditch after one too many disparaging remarks? Who knows what this monster had done before Hal stepped in?
And he tried to de-escalate the issue with words even after Ben struck him. Jordan gave him every chance in the world to stand down.

Oh lord we're gonna keep having "Who was in the wrong" threads just to talk about this episode even after its publicly available on Wednesday

Ben was the original aggressor. Any decent law official, if confronted with a different systems authority, should have surrendered and then found the proper time to talk.

Hal stated his authority immediately and clearly, Ben did not even mention his once and did nothing but fight.

Hal was at no fault.

It hasn't even begun yet, user. This is just the pre-game warmup.

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That was actually a pretty fun story.

Which Death Battle broke the "Hit First" rule? Like which character started the fight and won, because all I can think of is MAYBE Doomsday

Running is not against the law. Ben clearly tried to reason with Hal even after being restricted forcibly with little reason but Hal further abused his power to take his only method of defense without checking if Ben was legally allowed to possess the Omnitrix.
Hal stated he was police but gave no evidence to such. He did not bother to check if Ben possessed anything to prove he could legally possess the Omnitrix even after Ben claimed he had reasons for possessing it and even tried to take it by force. Ben has had several unlawful people try to steal it before, and Hal's certainly committed some dubious and unlawful shit before, Ben was in the right to be skeptical about Hal's claims.

>better
Are we not counting Thor, Reed with even minimal prep time and Doctor Strange?

Do you think they'll change shit like "he was probably just joking" and the shit about the failsafe not working with limbs (they replace it with Hal being fast enough before it can react) before it goes out in public?

doubt it

Oh boy

Are we counting Reed as an Avenger cause if then, it's a borderline stomp since he can jury rig "An anti-Justice League Rifle" or some shit in a second. But my idea was just how Rogue can just put Wonder Woman or Superman in a chokehold and then it spirals from there and Jean does some Pheonix shit.

It wouldn't make a difference. The autists that cry about those things will cry no matter what.

Dr. Fate literally just barged into the Sanctum Sanctorum and murdered Strange for the hell of it.

>for the hell of it.
It was what fate deemed necessary

>literally did it for the title of Sorcerer Supreme
Most DC heroes are doing immoral shit in Death Battle

Ben was going at over 100 mph within city limits, endangering civilians. This reckless running is in addition to his other crimes. It's very clear at this point he was running from the scene of a grisly murder, hence his immediate hostility upon seeing a police officer.
All Ben had to do was ask to see a badge. He's a law enforcement official himself (however corrupt and dirty) he should've known better instead of threatening Hal off the bat.

Ben was clearly running at the speed limit to apprehend some criminal before Hal forcibly restricted him. Ben was obviously acting reasonable by telling Hal he had several reasons for holding his galactic super weapon lawfully before Hal forcibly attempted to take it away without reason. Hal has also done immoral shit unlike Ben, so evidently Ben was correct to not trust him as even if he did provide official credentials, his corrupt actions means that Ben was right to not trust him as he was attempting to abuse his power as a GL.

He knew what Stephen did to the great society.

Then why so many of them, or is Hal special? Why make them that powerful just to have them job? Where is the logic?

Yeah see after being the one to take down God Doom and his evil alt the Maker building the thing that let the Avengers interface with Eternity’s chains on Ultimates that’s why I think Reed is Marvel’s best anti-JL weapon

If Ben was on his way to apprehend a criminal he could have told Hal that instead of attacking him. He did not elaborate on any of the reasons Hal should have let him go, he obviously could not come up with a decent alibi and was consumed by guilt.
Hal's less-than-noble actions were done under the influence of an enemy combatant who managed to enthrall him. He was not in control of his actions. And he did serve his time, which Ben was clearly trying to avoid like the coward he was. Maybe his death will teach him a lesson about having propriety next time.

Ben didn't attack Hal until after Hal had attempted to take the Omnitrix, in fact he had attempted to reason with Hal by telling him he had reasons but Hal was too bloodthirsty to listen. Hal was clearly attempting to abuse his power once more and Ben was merely trying to defend himself against Hal.

>Then why so many of them
Can't be everywhere at once.
>or is Hal special?
Yes hal is special, you don't get to be called the greatest green lantern for nothing.
>Why make them that powerful just to have them job?
"job". Threats in the DC verse are ridiculous. Someone like Ben is villain of the single-issue tier.
>Where is the logic?
Not in your head, obviously.

>He knew about Stephen’s absurd mystic bill and was called in by the cosmic accountant to collect on it
FTFY

There’s no due process in space, Hal did nothing wrong

Dante Vs. Alucard.

He should not have attacked Hal for merely doing his job. Hal even gave Ben a chance to end things peacefully after the delinquent struck him. The police generally don't do that. If one strikes a cop they will be dealt with severely. Hal offered an olive branch and Ben, clearly on narcotics, spat in his face. It only went downhill from there. Sad situation all around.

Hey that’s a bit unfair, considering Ben can wipe out the multiverse WITHOUT needing to power up like a chore he’s a better destroyer of worlds than the Anti-Monitor. Which means he’s a potential event level villain. The problem is, individual JL members can solo event level villains in the right time and place.

This, there’s no regulation on use of minimum force in space

They were clearly on Earth when Hal attempted to abuse his power.
Ben attacked Hal after Hal showed he was not willing to listen and was clearly trying to abuse his power as shown by the Omnitrix forcibly rejecting Hal's attempt to take it away. Ben clearly knew Hal was malicious and attempting some heinous shit and tried to defend himself. It's truly sad that the GL corp's shining member was acting corrupt yet again.

Earth is in space tho
And there’s no recognition of the sovereign citizen movement in space

Then why does earth need so many? With being as powerful as many of the JL, I wouldn't even see the need to assign one there. You say they can't be everywhere at once, but I wouldn't be surprised if they have been at some point or run.

>Hal attempting to abandon his facade of being a lawful citizen and officer when given the chance

>First Death Battle ever: Boba Fett (Western-made, 1978) vs Samus (Japanese-made, 1986)
>Samus wins

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user
user the Sinestro Corps
The Red Lanterns
Larfleeze
And those FUCKING turncoat indigo shits succing up to Highfather when he was using the Life Equation like a shinier ALE when he finally realised what a total cuck he was compared to Darkseid

>Earth attempting to maintain its pretence of being a legitimate authority and supraordinate jurisdiction when none of the nations even own commercial spaceships

There’s no Texas-style secession in space

Earth is not only a hotspot for all manner of beings that want to destroy the universe/multiverse, it's also both a) the place where life began and b) the balancing point of the entire DC multiverse, if the planet goes down, all 52 universes drop with it. It requires protection.

It's also the place where the anti-life equation can be found in the mind of people, which if you know anything about Darkseid should be more than enough to answer your question.

Why are you and every other idiot in this thread, arguing these things? Non readers deserve the bullet.

GN guys

>where the anti-life equation can be found in the mind of humans
WHY is that a thing anyway? The ALE is an aspect of the fucking Source itself. Is Billion Dollar Bates secretly some kind of eldritch horror?

Whichever ways the fight goes, Alucard has better regeneration then Dante, both before (some millions of souls/lives) and post Schroedinger (effectively omnipresent)