The Batman Villains Rumored to Be Penguin, Catwoman, and Riddler

Riddler is perfect for a batman movie centered him actually being a detective, which this movie is about

He's a weak ass faggot.

Half a dozen, is the word going around.

I said this in the last thread but Anne wants to come back as Catwoman, WB really should just pull the trigger and have Bats in the present banging a straight up cougar.

Do you even know the actors name?

the problem is that the gotham tv show already did all the villains perfectly, especially penguin and riddler, anything else would be a pale imitation

I don't know most GoT fans know the actor's names

penguin works fine. never really been a fan of the riddler though to be honest

Its not about physicality you faggot, its about wit and intellect - Nygma's entire MO is pulls off elaborate crimes to prove he's smarter than Batman who used to do quite a bit of detective work...something that's supposed to be the focus of the flick.

He's right tho, Catwoman and Penguin, even Riddler is played out, give us some other villains for fucks sake Clayface would be a good start, fuck even Killer Croc would be refreshing at this point.

cant say youre wrong since i havnt tested his strength

The faggot in the OP looks like a faggot because of his faggot face, he is not Batman, John Snow looks more like a real Batman.

>What is working out
>What is acting talent
Seriously, if you want a pretty model to jack it to just fucking use pornhub, or google.

>likes Catwoman
>hates on the based Riddler and Penguin
Holy shit taste.

His face is faggot looking, his face.

You know a gang war with Batman/Catwoman caught in the middle would be cool. Penguin, being the old criminal empire threatened by Riddler new age crime could make for a good plot.

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Catwoman is hardly a villain.

Penguin is boring, same with Riddler and Catwoman, fuck I'd even take the Calendar man over either of those.

Read a comic for once you tasteless faggot

This topic is about the film/s.

He's a fucking manlet. I'm 6'2 and he came barely up to my shoulders.

Based off comic characters, which you apparently know jack shit about

Antihero love interest doesn’t really count as a villain.

So what? Tall people have weak hearts and look like shit on film that's why most action stars are shorter than those lanky fags.

I don't want another Batman Returns rehash, this film will bomb hard if the OP is true.

Penguin's boring to fight IRL, but if he's as agile as The Batman's penguin or he has a lot of trick umbrellas, he'd be pretty good for that end fight. Other than that, he's alright as a "mob with dirty cops everywhere" character like Kingpin.

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>I don't want another Batman Returns rehash
Well good because despite Danny Devito's fun performance he was nothing like Cobblepot. Again, read a book dude

>the film will bomb if it has villains I don’t like

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I can see Neil Patrick Harris playing Riddler, but who would they cast for Penguin and Catwoman.

>I can only like the villain if he can punch Batman good
Moron

That's not even the issue, just you watch what I said will come true.

See

Hes a fucking manlet.
Guy is like 5'5 or some shit.

Nice goalpost move

Delusions; the post.

He's taller than that, he's taller than Iron-man too and everybody loves that faggot.

Nope, it's what I've been saying all along.

>faggot cannot argue with facts
What I expect from an NPC like you.

What sort of delusions are you having? Catwoman is one of the most popular characters to come out of Batman, Riddler has moved up the food chain of villains, and Penguin is very adaptable as a character.

Yea you post "heart condition" and "tall people can't action" one is irrelevant and the other is patently false. Ryan Gosling, Keanu Reeves, Ryan Reynolds, Jake Gyllenhaal, Liam Neeson all prove you're a fucking delusional idiot. Jon Snow is a manlet, doesn't have a shred of charisma and can't be in a scene with someone else because he's overshadowed by whoever is standing next to him. At least Robert Pattinson has real acting chops and is charismatic as fuck, your little manlet fanpick can't carry a starbucks cup without it stealing the scene.

>He's taller than that, he's taller than Iron-man too and everybody loves that faggot.
I've met him, 5'7 is being generous and he came up to just barely my chin and was wearing boots to my sandals.

Simon Beale would make a good Penguin. I saw him in Death of Stalin and he’s got the perfect body shape and voice for it.

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They really had to choose the most young scrawny looking guy as a candidate

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You really think he can't get in shape for it? It took Caville 6 months to get fucking jacked for MoS, Bale took even less time to go from holocaust survivor to Batman. You're reaching.

I mean Keaton and Bale weren’t exactly beefy themselves, yet they’re considered to be the best live-action Batmans.

More like
> i can only like the villain if its actually a threat
Retard

The only retard here is you, friend. What, you think the only threat can come from a fucking physical sparring match? Do you not realize how little The Joker actually fights Batman hand to hand?

Confirmed for never reading a Penguin story.

There's a reason he's been Batman's #2 villain after The Joker since he was created.

>Cobblepot
>Not a threat
Ruthless financial genius billionaire who can potentially take out both Batman AND Bruce Wayne, he also can hire top level thugs and technical advisors to give Batman a run for his money.

>Riddler
>Not a threat
Tactical genius terrorist who can make a bombs, mazes and escape from probably anywhere. You won't know where the bomb is or when he's coming for you until he wants you to.

All these fucking casuals who've never read a comic.

Keaton and Bale in my opinion were good Bruce Waynes. But I thought out of all of them Ben Affleck had the best Batman Body Shape

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It's not the first time. Returns, Forever and TDK and Rises all had 3 villians

I just dont like to read stories about penguin, calm down you pussies. Tell me good stories about him to read , i going to give it a try.

Penguin should get a pair of completely unexplained kabuki gimps to fight in his stead.

Plus they could be doing it for a living universe feel if they aren't doing an origin story. Riddler is one of those guys where he's only a real threat if he's left alone for a long time and catwoman is a femme fatale and those don't get to be centerpiece villains.

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>We'll never get Black Mask as a live action movie villain

We would, but he'd be taken down in the first 5 minutes of the movie to establish what a bad-ass Batman is

How about you fuck off back to Yea Forums since there's a good chance you won't read shit anyway? You don't care to read stories featuring The Penguin because you're a surface level causal faggot.
He's the antagonist of Birds of Prey, user.

>>We'll never get Black Mask as a live action movie villain
Birds of Prey. Ewan McGregor is playing him

I prefer Bane desu, he's literally latino Black Mask who can go toe to toe with Batman and actually win sometimes.

#2
Really? He's always been a bit lower on the tier list. Bane and Ra's are more dangerous than Penguin.

How the fuck are Bane and Black Mask even remotely the same?
Bane is a one hit wonder and Ras isn't exactly a regular. But yes both are still dangerous

Thanks for the reference retard, im going to enjoy all the useless chapters of penguin.

Both are gangsters, both are tactical and business geniuses, both wear cool masks but only 1 has defeated Batman completely.

Penguin Pain and Prejudice
Penguin Triumphant
Joker's Asylum: Penguin
Detective #610 and 611
Batman #548 and 549
Detective Comics #824

He can get a personal trainer

You losers call him a faggot because you know he's handsome and are secretly sexually attracted to him.
Pattinson is based

Not him but that doesn’t fucking count. I’d rather have a Dick Greyson or Jason Todd solo movie with Black Mask

Batman should have the villain be old robin. Thatd be a great idea. Not dick grayson robin but the other one

Fucking this.
>Red Hood fresh after defeat in Battle for the Cowl moves to Bludhaven
>Just wants to live in peace as a bartender/janitor
>Black Mask and his cronies are destroying his new home
>Red Hood starts taking down low level drug dealers and shit
>Comes home to his dingy apartment to find box with a note
>"Master Todd, Saw this and thought of you. -Alfred"
>Opens box and it's a protoype Batsuit with Ironman type helmet with ears.
>"Alfred a man after my own heart, you shouldn't have."
>Proceeds to sand down the ears and paint the helmet red.

that's gonna be shit as

I think you're lost friend.

3 villains is a problem
too many villains crowd the film
they do this every fucking time they've done a couple movies they start piling them on

Three villains, all ones we've had before. Great.

Jason Alexander for Penguin
Sam Rockwell for Riddler
Debicki for Catwoman

>all ones we've had before
It's been almost 30 years for Penguin.

1) A first Batman movie should not hav supervillains, it should just be him and crime

2) Name one Superhero movie where piling on the villains has worked well. You cant. You have only so much time to introduce the characters and provide their motivation and tell the story. Maybe if you had reoccurring characters you could, but Hollywood prefers to kill them off at the end of each movie because their how to screenplay books and lectures tell them the audience needs """resolution"""

It would be great if it was a Batman/Riddler movie but that's not happening

People like you who are mad about Pattinson are either underage or haven't grown up mentally. I remember when kids were talking about how bad they hated Twilight and Justin Bieber, and it was all because icky gross girls liked them and they were low key mad that they weren't Pattinson or Bieber themselves.
The dude is a legitimately good actor and he didn't even like doing Twilight. People like you either need to grow up or stick to making Happy Wheels levels and stay the fuck out of public discourse.

Red Hood/Jason Todd my man. Been wanting. Live action one for years

>and it was all because icky gross girls liked them and they were low key mad that they weren't Pattinson or Bieber themselves.
are you a middle aged woman fighting for team Edward?

>too many villains crowd the film
No they don't, Homecoming had 3 villains. The problem with Spider-Man 3 was that there were like 4 plots and Harry, Sandman and Venom were the villains of each of them so they had to tie it clumsily for the final battle.
Here either Catwoman or Riddler are working for Penguin.
>A first Batman movie should not hav supervillains, it should just be him and crime
Nice, this is why Yea Forums will never make it to the industry.

>>Opens box and it's a protoype Batsuit with Ironman type helmet with ears.
Enough with the Arkham Knight bullshit.

This is the most retarded shit ever
First of all you would FIRST need to have a Jason Todd Robin
And he needs to "die"
And then be gone for SEVERAL movies
And only THEN come back
You cannot do it in the course of a single movie
>Remember me, this our first film and the audience has no idea who I am, but, I'm your old partner
No, no, no.

Further more its a lame one dimensional character that should have stayed dead.

Don’t be mad because everyone is shitting on the series finale before it’s out, Kit

>1) A first Batman movie should not hav supervillains, it should just be him and crime
Not even Year One could get away with that.

I'm a twenty four year old man. I just act my fucking age.

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>Homecoming had 3 villains
henchmen ≠ villains

Homecoming had 1 villain, Vulture. And two of his henchmen were named for other comic characters.
That's clearly not going to happen here.
The Penguin isn't going to have a throw away mook seen for just 2 minutes named Riddler, or vice versa.
>Yea Forums will never make it in the industry because it doesn't want to cram too much shit into the film degrading the story and characters
welp

>Homecoming had 3 villains
Except Vulture was the only one that seemed like a villain. Scorpion was in Homecoming and he didn’t do shit.

The Ironman like helmet thing was waaay before Arkham games you fucking braindead casual. Learn to understand a nod to other material.

The issue with Riddler is that he requires others to actually function as a villain. For example, in Batman Forever, he needed Two-Face’s brawn in order to get the funds for his ideas.

Batman should not be using power armor it defeats the purpose of the character and turns him into an Iron Man clone

What makes you think Catwoman or Riddler isn't working for the Penguin? Or that Penguin is just in the movie to help Batman get to Riddler?
>Yea Forums will never make it in the industry because it doesn't want to cram too much shit into the film degrading the story and characters
Yeah, Yea Forums will never make it by having Batman beat up random crooks in his first movie since 2012.

He doesn't need others brawn, he can be setting traps and bombs and shit on his own - his MO in the comics
The problem is this is just kinda lame on film and really lame for a first film

Riddler is definitely working for Penguin if they’re in this movie. Catwoman’s not exactly one to team up with other villains, though.

What’s wrong with 3 villains?
We have plenty of films where he squares off with just one of his rogues.
Even this idea has been done before.
It isn’t inherently bad.

>What makes you think Catwoman or Riddler isn't working for the Penguin?
Well I did say:
>or vice versa.
So, there ya go.
>Or that Penguin is just in the movie to help Batman get to Riddler?
Ah, yes, who could forget Batmans sidekick The Penguin
>random crooks
>high level detective work and massive fighting to take down the organised crime families of Gotham + going up against the crooked bureaucracy and police force
>random crooks
hmm

>3 villains
Why haven't they learned that super hero movies ALWAYS fall flat on their face when they have multiple main villains? Unless one of them is like the opening act then irrelevant, this is terrible

It's not a power armor suit and it's not for Batman, it's a nod to Terry McGinnis' suit and the Arkham games. Reg Hood always had helmet visor thing, the extent of the tech is the exact same as Batman and the Robins domino mask. The eye tech on the suits has been around since the late 80's if I remember correctly.

He's probably just smart enough not to completely write off someone because a few movies they were in. Especially considering that he was already shittalking the movie during it's fucking media tour.

This all depends on how much of a shit Matt Reeves gives about the source material.

>>high level detective work and massive fighting to take down the organised crime families of Gotham + going up against the crooked bureaucracy and police force
Falcone is fucking lame, user.

Yea Forums was going ape shit when based Pattinson started ragging on the movies and books during press tours using the same excuses anons were. Pretty sure Pattinson lurks Yea Forums.

>Ah, yes, who could forget Batmans sidekick The Penguin
That's not what i said retard.
>>random crooks
Oh yes, everybody wants to see Batman beating up Maroni.

Also, another """overcrowed""" movie for you.

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It's fucking Matt Reeves, he doesn't half ass shit.

>Pattinson as Bats
>Jonah Hill as Penguin
>Pic Related returns as Catwoman
>Jim Parsons as Riddler

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Killer Croc already appeared on Suicide Squad.

>Why haven't they learned that super hero movies ALWAYS fall flat on their face when they have multiple main villains?
So you’re just gonna ignore that every Nolanverse movie had at least two Batman villains that were central to the plot?

>>Jonah Hill as Penguin
>>Jim Parsons as Riddler

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>Pattinson as Bats
I can get behind it.
>Jonah Hill as Penguin
Fuck no I'd prefer him as some lackey or detective who helps commissioner gordon.
>Pic Related returns as Catwoman
Nah, she's got nice tits and rocks pubes but she's too old.
>Jim Parsons as Riddler
I like it but it's unlikely since he just played an aspie genius for 12 years and I doubt he'd do it again.

>Fuck no I'd prefer him as some lackey or detective who helps commissioner gordon.
A young Harvey Bullock maybe?

I can see that yea.

>Jonah Hill as Penguin
Lefou guy is Penguin.

I want to see Mister Zero.

Affleck looked good, but the suit made him look fat.

name a film where multiple villains hasn't sucked
and after you do a major crime film
the sequel is where you introduce supervillains
I'd like the followup to go full horror/gothic/noir and feature The Mad Monk

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Batman Begins diluted both characters and made them lame
Dark Knight had 1
DKR sucked combining Bane and Talia and knighfall and no mans land

Keaton is nothing but nostalgia goggles, he is barely in it and does nothing

Why the fuck is everyone acting surprised when Reeves confirmed it months ago on his TWITTER account?

>Batman Begins diluted both characters and made them lame
So lame Scarecrow is one of the better villains.
>Dark Knight had 1
It had 2.

>TFW we aren't getting a proper Mister Freeze in a Batman live-action movie.

TDK had 3.

Joker, Two-Face, and… are we counting "the mob" as one villain? Maybe Sal Maroni counts on his own?

No Scarecrow lmao

it wasn't better
and there was 1
that's not two-face

People didn't go in droves to see Iron Man beating up random irakis user.

That was the first Iron Man
When I say going up against Gothams crime I don't mean street hustlers
I mean the organised crime mob families. Highly sophisticated criminal enterprises
with a lot of muscle.
And then there is the corrupt police and their SWAT - remember the SWAT in Year One and Mask of the Phantasm?

The final act could involve the mob putting together a crew of assassins, C-listers like KGBeast and Firefly for example, to try to take down the Bat

And are you saying a second film with a supernatural villain would be bad?

Considering Bale was younger than him when he got casted and at one point dropped a lot of pounds and beefed up back for the Batman role, seriously who gives a shit? You can fix all of that, he just needs a good trainer and to be a decent actor.

Three villains isn't too bad.
Catwoman as the femme fatale
Penguin will be a crime boss type / false antagonist
Riddler will probably be the brains / real antagonist / Jig-saw

I'd call Scarecrow a cameo in that movie. He's only really for a scene because Murphy and Nolan are friends and Nolan liked giving Murphy a cameo in each sequel, and narratively, showing Batman tie up a loose end from the last movie provides a sense of continuity and a living, persistent world. But Scarecrow isn't really a villain of The Dark Knight.

> Camila Mendes as Catwoman

> Joe Lo Truglio as The Penguin

>Edward Norton as The Riddler

Post your casting picks for the villains

Winter Soldier had four villains

Pretty much this.

Catwoman will be more ally/frenemy femme fatale than villain

Penguin will be a minor villain, more providing thugs for Riddler than anything if he is involved in the main plot much.

Riddler will be the real enemy, and the most devious

>name a film where multiple villains hasn't sucked.
Name one where it did.

Steroids will do it

>CATWOMAN WILL BE BLACK AND HAVE AN INTERRACIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH BATMAN
YES!!!!!! KINO

>Name one Superhero movie where piling on the villains has worked well.

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Kit Harington as Batman
Emilia Clarke as Catwoman
Peter Dinklage as Penguin
Iain Glen as The Riddler

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I feel like the entire Batman franchise would be better served by a small trilogy of films which is done more from the perspective of the villains trying to get by and thrive in Gotham and the crimes and dealings with The Bat is the final consequence having overcome all other obstacles of morality.
Penguin overcomes the city government through business acumen and political intrigue, his film is modeled after a political thriller as he institutes a Manchurian candidate that Batman barely circumnavigated by sacrificing Bruce Wayne more so than utilizing the Bat persona.
Keep Gotham’s whacky origin of Riddler being the eccentric evidence locker Gotham PD agent, just that he’s gone off the deepend as he’s created a series of mystery thrillers he’d love to unleash on his compatriots. Frame it up as a Horror mystery or actual mystery film, both genres relatively untouched by comic movies.
The third film could be from Batman’s perspective proper as the city is acting still under acting authorities and a corrupted police department, of course Batman seems like the last bastion of law and order. It’d be the rise of The Asylum. Batman sacrifices a portion of his own sanity and the story ultimately revolves around a story that explains why the Bat doesn’t kill

>Catwoman as uneasy, untrustworthy ally
>Cobblepot and Nygma shenanigans

I see no issues here. Riddler and Penguin and their madcap happenings were a highlight of Gotham, throw in Selina for a bit of a wildcard who could help either side and it could be a fun little chess match of a film.

>Penguin, Catwoman, and Riddler.
Booooorrrring.

Right? I wish they would take some chances. Do an Elseworlds or Death in the Family. Could you imagine a good Killing Joke directed by ANYONE that's not Zack Snyder.

The biggest problem Batman movies ever faced when dealing with multiple Gilliam’s is that the writers spend 20 mins giving them each an origin story. And they rightly have to do so. With the Nolan films, most of the films are dedicated toward this goal. It works out well because you then aren’t diluted in the story or editing. Additionally you are able to explore a refined them that goes beyond Batman Solves Everything

Why not just do some sort of turf war or arkham story then with like a half dozen villains. Fuck it.

I mean, I don't mind Snyder(no idea why he's even being brought up), but relying on The Penguin, Riddler, and Catwoman, especially since they were heavily used in Gotham for 5 seasons seems like a waste. I said in another thread they should do an amalgamation of Night Cries+Prey, but if I really had to choose the villains I'd want to see in a "younger" Batman's outing would probably be KGBeast, The Court of Owls, or even Calendar Man & Holiday.

No on the Kit-Man

But hough I honestly I'd never of thought of Dinklage as Penguin, I could see it.

I still think they're doing, or at least SHOULD be doing Under the Hood desu.

Pattinson is 33. Bruce can easily have started as Batman at 21, gone a year or two, taken in a 10 year old Dick Grayson at 23, Dick goes away at 18 when Bruce is 30-31, taken in a 15 year old Jason the following year and then Jason dies within a year or two of that. Set the movie about 3 years after that in the 90's like it's rumored and Pattinson would be playing a 35ish Bruce which is entirely believable.

It's one of the most casually known Batman stories ever and is garaunteed to put asses in seats.

Either that or make this the movie where he takes in either Dick or Jason. Preferably Jason because I don't think Batman should be active into his 30's before he takes in a Robin. Unless they plan on saying Bruce is younger than Pattinson's 33 and in his mid 20's or something.

Kit Harrington

Still no

Pic related was from a little while back, any thoughts?
I think he would be great as Riddler

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Is Superman and his wank irrelevant nowadays?

nigga gone steal the movie

Alison Brie as The Catwoman.

Jesse Eiseberg as The Riddler.

Billy Eichner as The Penguin.

Matt Smith as The Mad Hatter

Samuel Barnett as Two Face

Benedict Cumberbatch as Hugo Strange

Jordan Peele as The Scarecrow/Dr Jonathan Crane

Eddie Murphy as The Joker (with Amber Ruffin as Harley Quinn).

Patton Oswalt as Clayface

Would be amazing. Pattinson and McAvoy guarantees tough shit. Also, in case they are planning on casting him too, Guy Pearce for Ra's al Ghul.

Plus Special Guest Star : John Waters as Alfred.

Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton as Bruce Wayne Parents

Court of Owls or Calendar Man/Holiday killer would be great for a detective movie. And is there that many people who watched Gotham ?

>Pattinson and McAvoy guarantees tough shit.
I'd be all in for that if it happens. I just hope Warner won't fuck it up like they did for the Snyder DCEU and Dark Knight 3.

David Tennant would still make a good Riddler.

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Huh. A Riddler I could actually give a shit about. He's never interested me beyond the first few times I saw/read one of the stories with him in, because his gimmick gets old fast and the man himself is usally pretty bland. Tennant could give him the sinister charisma he needs. Then again, he could also just end up as the Purple Man with riddle-traps instead of mind control.

Batman Begins.

Ra's Al Ghul and Scarecrow were the main villains, Falcone and Zsasz made appearances.

When has she ever been anything but?

That Batgod you need
In the Batwank you deserve

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Charlize would have been perfect for Catwoman if Batfleck had gotten his own movie.

They should keep Jeremy Irons as Alfred.

Florence Pugh would be a good Barbera Gordan/Batgirl

Anne Hathaway could come back as Catwoman. To fuckheads saying she's "too old" she's 36 about 3 years older than Pattinson.
This time give her short black hair and giver the goggles costume this time

>Peter Dinklage as Penguin
>Not Scarface.
Reeves was smol when he was cast as Superman.

Just do Court of Owls.

inb4 Peter dinkles
For Catwoman any sexy girl who can suck a dick probably

He was the sparkly vampire from Twilight, but he's trying to put that behind him and play something else.

He would be better in a Batman Beyond movie as Terry instead of Bruce.

into the trash

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I actually don't think so. Leaving clues for the detective is pretty dumb, unless you're a phantom thief who actually wants the actual chase/confrontation in the last moment, but Ridley has never really been portrayed like that.

How could they?

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lets be real here and acknowledge that catwoman is going to be a minor nuisance that blueballs batman more than an actual villain in the movie. maybe she cooperates with penguin for a bit before riding bat-d and setting the sequel for penguin/cat rivalry.

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Weren't footfags in love with her a while back
What happened to her anyways feels like she fell off the acting game completely

Seems like stunt casting but i wouldn't be against it, especially if her costume was inspired by Darwyn Cooke's Catwoman design.

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Imagine all the Twilight money they'd get with this. 2 billion right here.

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If this were true:
1) Penguin is a mob boss. He just runs a business so I doubt would take center stage.
2) Catwoman at worst a cat burglar and a help to Batman at best.
3) Riddler would be the main villain.

I'd be okay with it.

>Penguin, Catwoman, and Riddler
>all the boring ones
This movies going to be shit, wouldnit kill them to do someone interesting like professor pyg or ventriloquist?

Pyg would make for a great noir Batman villain, but he doesn't have the meme value that Joker does, even though they're a very similar kind of crazy.

>professor pyg
Might as well bring King Tut or Egghead. These are just derivatives/generic brand instances from actual Batman villains.

The number of villains doesn't matter if you handle them right. Batman facing a gauntlet of villains or a gang war of various crime bosses works well. Well, it can.

Having tok many villains wasn't even in the top twenty problems with shit like Batman Forever or Batman & Robin.

People need to stop saying tok many villains is a problem with a superhero movie. It is all in how they are handled. Showing a supwrhero surrounded by waves of super villain criminals would be a great testament to their character.

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Spider-verse
>king-pin
>prowler
>ock
All got decent amounts of screentime and Scorpion and Tombstone were good henchmen

>Dinklage as anyone but Dr Psycho

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