Ducktales 2017

New episode: The Dangerous Chemistry of Gandra Dee!
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Are we gonna see Disney bring back Darkwing and The Mighty Ducks?

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>still watching WebbyTales

>>duck Doofenshmirtz.

Louie got a pretty good soprano voice.

>hit list

Huey I meant.

Launchpad gets around, he’s dated a mermaid, wereduck, clone of himself, a viking shield maiden, and a talking cloud of energy.

Are you happy now user?

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No, he isn't cute. As the only beaks fucker on earth I feel betrayed.

Launchpad being an offscreen chad is the best running gag in the series.

>your two friends also like pie

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>A friend
>A confident
>A deadly ninja
>A forbidden mermaid
>A wereduck
>A clone of yourself
>A viking shield-maiden
>A talking cloud of energy that one time

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his italiano was not bad

This episode somehow made an attention whore dabbing on a waveboard look cool
How the fuck did that happen

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it's that dummy thicc energy
the girls go fuckin wild for it lately

I missed best worst boy.

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Mark Beaks dabbing on the haters

but can he win over an action MILF?

But what happens when Della tames him

That was very fun episode.
I wonder if they will upgrade the armor now.
>Duckenshmitz

I liked.

is it even a secret identity anymore?

Second best running gag in the series is "Santa Claus committed some unspoken crime against Uncle Scrooge that was so heinous, it made Scrooge swear an eternal blood feud against him."

How was the episode?

Forgettable at worst. Nothing impressive to sperg about.
We did get to know that Launchpad has a girl on every airport.

Okay, you ruined it.

not just airports

>It’s a Fenton episode
Well it may not be bad but it’s certainly skippable.

Just the sight of someone holding that jar made me nervous, and the jar breaking was even worse. It looked like just a reference that won't get brought up later, but I couldn't help thinking of how much serious trouble that liquid caused in the comics.

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Fuck me, that was my thought too, including the catastrophic consequences that may never happen.

>Implying Della needs him
>Implying she hasn’t had her own boy toy since the day she came out of her egg

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Damn thought it was the darkwing episode after seeing dangerous

>"Who's the loser now, Coach Dad?"

Beaks has dad issues. That explains so much, actually.

How come Huey was so supportive of Fenton's relationship but with Scrooge he spent the whole time teasing him?

You could say that for the entire tech industry desu.

He was just trying to fit in with his brothers in that ep.

After today's episode, is it safe to say Beaks is a legitimate sociopath?

>Gandra is not a tall, blonde bombshell
This is gonna take some time to get used to. At least she has an actual personality this time around.

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Probably to emulate the voice actress
Also birds of a color flock together

With these new episodes I can finally say that Webby and her episodes are truly the worst thinv about the show.

There is a way

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The women that serve as love interests like gandra and goldie are a lot worse than webby

If we are running by real world logic? No.

What happened in the comic?

Melts a hole to the center of the earth.

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Seriously when will we get a Wild Wing cameo? I fuckin miss Mighty Ducks

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Will people really complain about gandra not being "hot" in this version? Of all the ways to expose yourself as a furry ducktales seems like a weird option.

>literally NANOMACHINES SON the episode
Dayum

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>Gandra not being hot
I thought this one is pretty cute, she's not hot but she has a certain charm
>Look at those nerds being nerds together

But both Goldie episodes have been great, though it's mostly because they are the only Scrooge solo adventure episodes without any kids dragging him down

Okay I’ll give you Goldie being at least debatable since she’s nothing more than a discount Catwoman in this and Catwoman is pretty damn far from “best girl” material, but Gandra hasn’t done anything or shown any real awfulness, and Webby has actively brought down the quality of episodes that she’s in.

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"Curse you, Gizmoduck!"

Mega for previous episodes.
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how is Beaks not going to be finished after this? Beaks and Glomgold are fucking PR nightmares
at least the other villains don't have multi-billion dollar industries on their shoulders

Waddle is Apple. Mark Beaks is Steve Jobs.
He can do whatever he wants and be praised for it by millions of blind apologists who see him as a living god.

I don't get the Glomgold thing. Is the woman the boss now or is Glomgold still at the top? Also, why is she so condescending? She isn't the one that made the multi billion company.

This. I mean, clearly it wasn't Beaks. Is Beaks a twelve-foot tall hulk who climbs buildings? No! Clearly this is just competitors trying to potshots at him by saying "ooh look, he's that monster that sorta looks like him" because they can't beat his innovation.

The shareholders made her CEO when Glomgold went missing. Now they're kind of co-CEO I think? Glomgold owns a lot of shares, but not enough to outvote the other shareholders. He might have 50%.

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She was brought in as ceo when glomgold was thought to be dead/missing, now both her and Glomgold run the company.

Maybe it’s because one is a family member and the other isn’t?

It was ok, not good, not bad, just ok.

Don't know if Beak's having a better father would prevent him from being the same egotistical attention whore.

no they didn't
just because you like something doesn't mean its cool

No, it does, that user is clearly the arbiter of what is and isn't cool. Unlike you. I mean, obviously you would think you are, but that just goes to show why you'll never be cool.

They're pretty cute together

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It could have almost destroyed the enitre planet by melting a hole to the centerof the earth and destroying its core. Scrooge and his nephews had to travel to the center of the earth in order to recapture it. And because the stuff can destroy anything it gets intocontact except diamonds, the solution is literally indestructible.

And later on it was stolen by one of the world's greatest thieves.

So, what are the chances that the nanites will show up again?

Did they just spill the jar of Omnisolve? And nothing is addressed about it? Writers are hacks.

Seems to have only melted the cleaning, probably not as powerful as it’s comic version.

Eh, it can be handwaved as a prototype that's not at full power yet.

She's kind of like, a co-CEO. Her role is to keep Glomgold from ruining the company to get back at Scrooge as he does, literally every day.
So she's kinda like a checks and balance system to Glomgolds insanity to help keep the company from running itself into the ground.

Jesus, Beaks could easily rob the money bin if he wanted to.

He's also a cello player, I think

She probably got officially demoted to COO after Glomgold came back, but her real job is to babysit him and make sure he doesn't lose too much of the company's money or tank the company's reputation too hard going after Scrooge.

Seemed like a setup thing to me.

Was about to say the same thing

>The Mighty Ducks
Oh how I wish. Tanya and Beakley pumping iron never ever.

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Now that is Milo will end, he is already transfered in a new show.

Her beak remind me of Tuca and Bertie, where Tuca put the beak reducer on

He looks like dweeb while doing cool shit.

The universal solvent was black, not green.

>implying she isn't hot

Doof is eternal and will be jumping between shows 30 years from now

Considering that he was the best thing about both shows, I am completely okay with this

He probably wouldn't be as bad as he is.

I swear if they just have Wild Wing's gold mask as a Easter egg (no pun intended) id be amazed

There is probably a completely offline 17th century cannon at some point though. And some magic wards.

That pie tin bit, and the Coach Dad one, were great.
Also, I literally can't remember the last time I had pie. Fuck.

Huey's Italian singing voice is kinda girly.

Fuck, I hope we get an adaptation of that comic. It was the first Don Rosa comic I read I think.

Why does dabbing get funnier as time goes on?

>Launchpad put on what he thinks is a simple hockey mask
>turns gold and hi tech before Della snatches it off his face saying it's an alien artifact

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Does anyone have the panel where Scrooge's sister says that she has lost out on her brother all these years? I think it's old Matilda and it's from the Don Rosa comic where he returns to castle McDuck.

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Goddammit that would be kino

I bet that monster was actually Storkules dressing up as Mark Beaks.

When is beaks going to appear again?

Whenever the story needs him to appear again.

How can they make a social media millionare scary or threatning?

It's the fate of every popular dance move. It goes from hype, to lame, to cute.

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Perhaps next time, he'll threaten to do a few more 9/11s to garner more attention and media hype, or he goes around christchurching for views.

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What's the best running gag?

Everything bad happening to Donald Duck.

>Ah gee, Ms. Dee, why do you want me to wear a sailor suit?

Donald's voice changing to something telligble

Thanks

Just make him competent, give him more bullshit tech like his hacking app and show more the contrast between boomer billionaires like Scrooge and Glomgold and new age billionaires like him

There was a duck hockey mask in one episode.

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Who is not a god fucking cuck?
No one, but Donald Duck

Scrooge is way older then a baby boomer.

>contrast?
Oh, you must mean literally making him the hulk?

And Glomgold is probably actually gen X. He only dresses up as an old guy in order to mock Scrooge.

It is in most things
With the lack of Donald's nastier side in this compared to other media it just comes off as unfunny

>born in Africa
>only dresses and calls himself scottish to spite scrooge
>dances and partying it up at his funeral

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This meme theory will never get old.

Unironically the most based moment in the series

The best part is when Scrooge just looks at him in costume and does nothing but stare.

[ALL I DO IS WIN]

I have to say that really is an ugly bird.

Is Gandre D an OC?

i really wonder if someone on the ducktales staff has a muscle growth fetish

Every male in the world has a muscle growth fetish.

>even has a hockey stick

Like all the FMG out there.

Caught up on the episodes.

Must say I like the idea Ludwig is probably alive in the computer and that he prepared for every doomsday scenario except the most mundane one.

Quackfaster needs to appear more. Show off her crazy and calling Webby a nerd.

>alive in the computer
Nani?

No she was in old DT

It got a lot of extra fuel after Della said that Donald is the only person whom she has "bunked" with

>and once again the day is saves thanks to gizmoduck
>in the exact PPG announcer tone

Supposedly there are some legal issues with The Mighty Ducks, since Disney no longer owns the hockey team they were named after.

maybe user means that Ludwig uploaded his brain inside the computer and he still interacts with people through the monitor
>to be fair I think he said he pre-recorded all those messages
>but brain-upload ludwig sounds pretty cool

He reacts to Della and Dewey's movements

MY OWN CLONE!
WOAH!
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?
BUNK BEDS!
SLEEP OVERS!
TACO NIGHT MOVIE MARATHONS!
ROMANTIC HAND HOLDING
Yeah! Wait, Romantic wait?
*One transition later*
I LOVED YOU LIKE A BROTHER MAN
I KNOW BECAUSE I AM YOU DUDE.
THIS HURTS ME AS MUCH AS IT HURTS YOU
DOES IT?
NOT REALLY.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *thumbs up as dissolves into lava*

So either duckcest or her partners never stay overnight.

Della's lover is Beaks

Is there anywhere else that Duckcest is a decently-spread thing or is it simply on Yea Forums?

Ducks aren't known or popular anywhere besides Yea Forums

Della is the town bicycle everyone gets a ride that's why it's so hard to figure out who the triplets dad is

Luckily nothing, since Scrooge and the others managed to contain the whole thing. But what nearly happened? The planet was about to get destroyed just because Scrooge dumped a jar of universal solvent on the ground.
That shit was the most terrifying thing Gyro ever invented, IMO. It dissolves everything it touches except diamonds, which makes it's extremely dangerous stuff to handle and impossible to destroy.

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If Ludwig is in a computer he could still be running SHUSH.

I thought that bear who always argued with DW was in charge of SHUSH

This show has Ludwig as the director of SHUSH in the 60’s flashback episode.

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What's the next episode about?

Launchpad and the actor who played Darkwing team up to stop a Gritty reboot.

>slutty Della Duck

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The Duck is Knight Returns
>When Scrooge and Dewey make a gritty Darkwing Duck movie, Launchpad teams up with the original Darkwing to stop it.

*Duck knight returns

>She's bossy and critical of everything I do, she's perfect. She's like my Mom, my boss, and everyone I know all rolled into one
Is he okay?

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Requesting all that good shit.

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I would rather have a Beakley solo drawing in that outfit and pose, really.

Fuuuuuck
>Webby getting the family swole spurt and being a cute muscle sperg NEVER EVER

Will Gosalyn or DW show up?

>When Scrooge and Dewey make a gritty Darkwing Duck movie
>make a gritty Darkwing Duck movie
I wonder if Yea Forums will whine about how unlikely this is for Scrooge? I mean, it's not like cape-comic movies don't make bank, or anything.

Since when does Scrooge care about money

Who knows, as remarks this version of the universal solvent is green, this might be a less potent prototype that will get fixed in an episode in the next seasons.

what was the name of the comic

>still watching dyketales

Fenton is fine
He's just very much a sub

>Beakley encounters Tanya on a demolitions mission

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What the fuck? SCROOGE likes money?
No no no, you MUST be mistaken. Yea Forums has told me that Scrooge McDuck is a kind hearted fellow who likes everyone and gives money to the poor!

>not watching dyketales
very low energy

Anyone have a link for the last two episodes? I bought the season on YouTube (don't ask me why) but they don't come on for like a week. Last episode I got was when Della came back.

Bring back Caballeros and I will stop
Nah I'd probably still watch

lol Called it.
And movie making is legit, too. So why wouldn't Scrooge want some of that, if he already doesn't have some of that? It's likely that they'll show how he even has a studio, or something.

it actually just get sadder but we learn to hide it behind laughter

Beaks is more likely to have a studio than Scrooge

The Universal Solvent by Don Rosa. It's one of his most famous stories, and it's really good. Don Rosa made a couple other comics afterwards involving that solvent and his thief OC, that are quite good too.

duck.neamar.fr/DUCK/the_universal_solvent
duck.neamar.fr/DUCK/the_black_knight
duck.neamar.fr/DUCK/the_black_knight_glorps_again

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What are his most famous comics?

Darkwing is a tv character in-universe played by an actor named “Jim Starling”. No, idea about Gosalyn.

How likely is "Jim Starling" going to show up?

m.youtube.com/watch?t=0h0m10s&v=zGNabgNtAlY

>Duck Night Returns
Is DW supposed to be modeled after Batman?

Is there a Mega of The Duck Knight Returns?

There’s one comic that had Scrooge producing a twilight type movie when they were popular, Scrooge will make money anyway he can.

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That's tomorrow's episode
Expect it early morning when it's up on Disneynow and an user rips it for a mega

Without any doubt, his Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck saga, which was also referenced in the Other Bin episode. A must read if you're interested in getting into the comics.

Have a look at this Mega, user mega.nz/#F!RFoAjIZY!WxLBalTZHsn_Rz5yd2Elyw. I think the Life and Times comics are in the Uncle Scrooge folder, and the rest of his comics are in the Donald Duck folder.

No it’s not out yet.

I already read life and times, but I haven't heard of anyone recommend Universal Solvent. What are his most famous comics that aren't life and times?

...

“his majesty mcduck” is a good one.

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Is Donald blushing out of his normal anger or because he's a sap?

we need more art of 60's Beakley

would be a good gag if they ever did an episode involving some sort of age ray/potion, like the triplets are basically standard adult ducks in proportion and then it cuts to Webby and she's just plain huge

Is that it?

Italian comics are not canon.

this is reaction image gold

Donald Duck media is not something that has much of a canon

There's no "canon" in duck comics. It's a story about talking ducks ffs.

On a Silver Platter
Super Snooper strikes again
The Son of the Sun
Return to Plain Awful
A matter of some Gravity
The Three Caballeros Ride again
And the Magnificent seven (Minus four) Caballeros
Are what i can list off the top of my head.

Well they made enough money from Endgame to buy the team back. Plus noticed how the Ducks went downhill fast when they weren't owned by Disney?

The fucking Chad duck
>clone of himself

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Fuck he really is Luthorzucc

Not really.

>6+ month hiatus
>randomly airing like 10 episodes in a row

what the fuck Disney

I mean thank you

but what the fuck

Most cartoon animators are furries or fetishists of some type, user.

Everyone is into the bomb thing

I was hoping someone caught that. Probably the only reason they got Tom Kenny in that episode, too.

“Embracing binge watching strategy”

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Fucking zoomers.

I'd rather have one new episode weekly / bi-weekly instead of going on hiatus for like 8 months and then having it all dumped on us at once.

Stop making me want NEVER EVER things, dammit.

At least they give us a day to talk about each episode as opposed to the streaming "release the entire fucking season at once"

This definitely won't create some hyper muscle fetishists in the future, nope

Weird, I was expecting for NuGandra to be a blonde white duck to promote interracial marriage in the real world as Fenton is a "brown hispanic duck" now.

>beaks wants attention and spotlight
>movie studios doesn't have this

Tom Kenny is the PPG narrator?

I hove they stick this around, having a Hulk/Luthor villain is pretty much assured kino

>Hulk/Luthor
It won't stick around. Beaks won't do anything that'll make him unable to use his iphone

The adult characters in this show are fucking great, it just sucks they're being dragged down by the kid characters.

I like webby and louie

>Someone hulking out means the artist has a muscle growth fetish

Eh?

>why is she so condescending
its glomgold

take a break from the internet my guy

it gets him off

I was expecting more Armstrong-posting because, like you said, this is the one case where it literally is "Nanomachines, son!" down to the big buff body.
I guess memes can really do die.

There a mega for this show?

...

glomgold should team up with beaks they seem like they could make their plans work well together

So yeah, after thinking about it I'm not really fond of the show's direction with Glomgold. See, in the comics and Last Ducktales his role was being Scrooge if he never tried to make his "fortune." A worthy rival. Here he's more or less some playmate of Scrooge who he lets mess with him when bored. It doesn't help that already know his VA from playing Lord Hater. I know this show isn't really trying to take itself seriously, but did we need to make Glomgold like that when we have Mark Beaks for the "silly, not that threatening business rival"?

I also have the impression the showrunners don't really now what to do with Donald, considering how quick they were to write him out once Della got back on the scene.

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I meant to say "make his fortune square."

Glomgold's great, people complaining about the duck comics are less relevant then the people who complain about the superhero movies being not faithful.

Beaks seem to have more beef with Gizmo Duck then Scrooge. Though that hacking app could come in handy for some of Scrooge's enemies.

For Mighty Ducks.

counterpoint glomgold dancing in to scrooge funeral to all i do is win and throwing money around is the best moment any glomgold has had

This
Are they going to write out Della again when they get Donald out? Because if they can't make both work it's stupid. If they can't write Donald or treat him right I'd like him cut out first to bring in the overbloated cast a bit

Glomgold hates Beaks too for making him lose the staring contest against Scrooge

not an argument

They've never known what to do with Donald. Them stranding him just shows it.

>Are they going to write out Della again when they get Donald out?
Donald and Della will go on the real cruise together so we can get more Lena episodes

well they could team up and switch enemies. beaks could hack his way through scrooges defenses and gizmoduck would have to face glomgolds shark based plans

What happens on the cruise?

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Will they share the same bunk like the good old days?

>they come back with more eggs

duckrape

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At least Della might now get her Jet, Turbo and Rebel

>Implying the both wouldn't like Donald's corkscrew in her to produce more triplets

Where the hell are the edits of Glomgold spouting DIO lines?

user, when the person in question is thick in the head, the proper term is "thicky dumm"

But yeah, it's sort of clear he's in there for comic-approval bait but they don't know what to do with him. He's really just a punching bag
His potential characteristics are lined up straight and clear if they wanted to do something

Three eggs again?

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Counter Point
Donald was literally only in the comics and OG ducktales because he was a recognizable character whom kids would say, "HEY LOOK MA IT'S DONALD!" and attempt to get their parents to buy them the latest comic/let them watch the latest episode.
It's not a bad thing that the show is going in another direction attempting to make every character BUT the one of the three main disney cast be unique and likable outside of the trait of, "they know donald duck".

He was used well in the pilot, the Gladstone episode and the 3 Caballeros episode (which are pretty much his only major appearances in adventures).

Finally, he can top Graves in bed!

They could have just shipped off Donald to the navy if they didn't want to use him rather than use him as a selling point and having him be one of the five main characters of the opening.

I still don't understand why the fuck can't the writers just use him more? They clearly like him since every character sucks his dick nonstop the few times he gets to be relevant, he was the most competent person in the S1 finale and he looks like the greatest parent that has ever existed compared to Scrooge and Dell but he spent nearly all the first season in the background of Scrooge's mansion because he didn't like adventuring but even after getting over that in the S1 finale he is now getting less screentime than Glomgold.

The pilot was really great in general and unfortunate that they screwed up the Caballeros because Donald did his part in that episode

>For Mighty Ducks.
From what I've seen from a few torrents, there isn't a decent recording of any episode anywhere. Really sucks.

Probably because as previous stated, the writers want to give every character an appropriate amount of time to grow as their own character on the screen, and Donald has literally had like 40 years of character development. Plus, shipping him off to the Navy constrains him to never show up in the show.
I don't think it's a "writers have no idea what to do" situation, but more of a "we're trying to make every character as flushed out as possible so they can stand on their own merits rather then be related to donald" type of thing.
but also shipping him off to the moon is weird as fuck and kinda just felt like something that had to happen for the plot to move forward

>bloated cast
You can blame that on the decision to include both Launchpad and Fenton who were both Donald stand-ins (Scrooge's right-hand/muscle).

They are yeah. But they don't really want to obvious.

>Donald was literally only in the comics and OG ducktales because he was a recognizable character whom kids would say, "HEY LOOK MA IT'S DONALD!"
And Launchpad/Fenton's are only here since they were in Vanilla Ducktales as Donald's replacements. Your point?

>It's not a bad thing that the show is going in another direction attempting to make every character BUT the one of the three main disney cast be unique and likable outside of the trait of, "they know donald duck".
You seem to be implying that they can't keep Donald actually relevant and do what you say. Then again, maybe they can't.

They shipped him to the moon to keep the Della Melodrama going. They don't seem able or willing to have both Donald and Della there in Scrooge's home bantering with him and parenting the triplets. Again cast bloat.

>They clearly like him since every character sucks his dick nonstop
Literally the only character who sucks his dick gets it played as a joke
I mean he wouldn't be off the show for most of this season if he was the favorite

>Donald was literally only in the comics and OG ducktales because he was a recognizable character whom kids would say, "HEY LOOK MA IT'S DONALD!" and attempt to get their parents to buy them the latest comic/let them watch the latest episode.
I don’t give a rats ass about the old Ducktales, but do you wanna know why people kept buying the comics after that first hook? Because they actually DID use him, and they did it damn well too. They didn’t “bait” anyone. They took a character, used him to create worthwhile stories, and sold them fair and square, which is more than Nu-Ducktlaes has show themselves to do with him.

I've seen them on the Kimcartoon variants

Of course I might just have lower standards of "decent"

>Della trying to jump his Bones after having been starved of the Donald D for ten years

They only included Launchpad since he was in Vanilla Ducktales. I can hardly think that Launchpad has shown himself to be integral enough that you can't scrap him for Donald (who in the comics is a pilot himself).

They could parlay and help each other out, Glomgold will get rid of Gizmoduck while Beaks takes care of Scrooge.

Or the plan goes to shit bc both of them are jealous bc they aren't the ones personally getting rid of their archrivals.

Is Gizmoduck in the comics?

made for the 87 show.

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Was he added afterwards like Harley Quinn?

No ducktales-onwards characters were added to the comics. There's Ducktales-branded comics where these characters appear, but the wider world of duck comics doesn't have them, which is very noticeable since before Ducktales, everything did get mashed up- so you end up with Mad Madam Mim being allowed to live with Magica deSpell, but Launchpad forbidden from appearing. Probably internal licensings and politics at Disney causing that.

He was an OC from the original Ducktales. I've seen a small number of spinoff comics for that show, but none of the ones I saw had Gizmoduck; just Webby, Launchpad, Beakley and the butler guy. None of these characters managed to stick in the wider world of duck comics, and they only ever appeared in those stories that were specifically Ducktales stories.
According to Inducks, Gizmoduck did appear in a tiny handful of comics; it's just that I never happened to encounter any of them.
inducks.org/character.php?c=Gizmoduck

Last digit is how many months we are on hiatus after this episode

Are any of the tie-in comics good?

Never cared for them but I always heard good things about the ones made by William Van Horn- in the type of story, visuals, etc, they're basically just normal Scrooge adventures but with Launchpad added.

Woo-oo!

Yeah, the guy's got a pretty good vocal range

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Is he a good actor?

I'm seeing impressions from people who watched it on video on demand

apparently no gosalyn

but it acts as an origin for both darkwing and negaduck

He's like the male Tara Strong: it's better to ask what cartoon WASN'T he in

Does it even air on TV anymore or is it purely vods?

It's airing at like 3 pm or so
We get it very early on VOD which gets mega'd over here so it's worthless to watch on tv unless you're casually watching

I'm asking if he's a good actor, not what Cartoons he wasn't in.
Futurama? ATLA?

>Last episode till hiatus
It's been a pleasure these last 2 weeks

yeah he's a good VA overall, although he does have one or two lemons like his Rabbit(though in that case it's less that he does an objectively bad job, and more that it's very obviously a case of Tom Kenny trying to imitate Ken Sansom too hard and it coming off weird as a result)

mega?

>mega
Give it an hour more or so and it will show up in this thread.

it will be like an hour and 15 minutes until Disney Now updates it.

The actor who played Darkwing in the show becomes the Negaduck and the dude hired to play him in the reboot is Drake Mallard

Does Negaduck have a real name in the original show?

His name in this one is Jim Starling

speaking of Tom Kenny, is there a website where I can listen to voice actors to learn about voice acting? preferably without background music
I don't know what makes him so good and I can't really tell, so it makes me curious.

Is Drake Mallard voiced by Jim?

Chris Diamantopoulos

OH NO NO NO

Does this mean that Drake Mallard is significantly younger than Jim Starling? Or do they look/act about the same?

do they make any capeshit references?

Significantly younger he was inspired by the Darkwing show and watched it as a child. Presumably him and Launchpad are around the same age.

The Darkwing reboot trailer has the flame DD letters and one of the villains was dressed like Bane.

reboot megavolt dresses like bane from dark knight rises

>DD
no Avengers references? That's surprising

I take it that Drake and Launchpad become friends this episode? Do they bond over being fans of the show?

Has he showed up in the reboot yet? I've only seen a few episodes.

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Yes they bond over being fans and that no matter how big a beating Darkwing took he always got backup. Drake and Launchpad wanted to fix the movie so it was more like the show and not griddy. In the end Launchpad convinces Drake to do the Darkwing thing for real. So they have an excuse for why Launchpad is gone. Surprisingly the theme song is not played once and Dewey does the perfect cast.

so did launchpad leave the show

Yes, a couple of time he's an in-universe tv character.

>Does Negaduck have a real name in the original show?
There are 2 Negaducks in the original show.

Did they write launchpad out?

no

yeah but one was just the evil half of darkwing the main one was the mirror universe darkwing. who presumably wasnt drake mallard or else that wouldnt have been a big plot point in the comics that he suddenly learned his identity

The episode just kinda ends. But I assume if Launchpad doesn't show up for a while or anymore he is with DW.

I'd say consistent delivery regardless of his range. Kenny also seems like a fantastic guy to work with, so being personable is probably a huge perk. The same goes for most studio work. Though the thing to really nail it is that he can function and act perfectly within his insane range of voices. A good VA is one who can operate their spectrum with the same level of consistency and on demand. If you're interested in the path to becoming a VA, Dee Bradley Baker's website is a fantastic resource.

Did they say anything about Donald? Was there no big season finale?

what next will beakly be written out because della is a tough girl? the whole cast will leave to shill della

>If you're interested in the path to becoming a VA, Dee Bradley Baker's website is a fantastic resource.
It's just that there's so little information about voice acting in animation or film books.

I see. So LP still works for Scrooge, but he also moonlights as a sidekick for DW on the side. Is that it?

Yep.

no updates about the moon

Thank goodness! I was worried they would write him off the show and replace him with Della. I’m glad to hear that Launchpad gets to keep his job and his place at the mansion while also doing crime fighting.

it is not the season finale just another hiatus

but it's summer soon? This will be the perfect time to dump episodes out weekly or bi-weekly

jesus is he wolverine how does he be a pilot in two seperate cities for 2 people

St. Canard must be close
Della pilots the plane when LP isn't around

Now do we have a mega?

uploading it to mega will take a while

New episode: The Duck Knight Returns
>mega.nz/#!dKRgSIia!BkJvyVM7RUW-WjbWYRe113H8zZlygiUXMcjuE0-2YXc

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thanks

>McDuck studios
>Scrooge hasn't seen a movie since 1938
>made for cheap office safety videos for his company

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There more than one. Scrooge has his personal studio like every other business activity.

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>Scrooge hasn't used this studio to make money before this
>DOUBT

a hidden mickey

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The art style in the flashback of Drake Mallard's past is so much more appealing

Ironically dark episode.

I guess we now know why they never made that last episode...

an Actual origin for Negaduck, that's never been tried before

As someone who grew up on Darkwing Duck, this is probably my favorite twist to the series.

oh shit

pretty much getting a darkwing spin off confirmed
also getting Negaduck right off the bat is really cool also

I don't think this was an origin for Negaduck, but it seems like that last shot wit hthe running purple paint off of his costume implies Negaduck replaced the real DW and most likely killed him, which is why they couldn't finish the last episode.

How is Negaduck right

>pretty much getting a darkwing spin off confirmed
What makes you think this

come on user isn't it obvious that he's right winged

...what?

he thinks that the person in the sewer wasn't Jim

Did you not notice how he became Negaduck?

interesting on having the new Darkwing be inspired by the tv show while the original Darkwing actor goes crazy and becomes Negaduck.

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Bane Megavolt was a nice touch.

Suxk they never made fun of the Nolan voices at all. I was hoping for forced deep voice Darkwing and high pitched Megavolt.

at least new darkwing will have a much easier time considering all his big villains are fictional. although I could see a quackerjack coming out now that there is a real darkwing

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also last episode confirmed that Duckburg has a lot of supervillains in it. At least 5 weather controlling ones.

darkwing operates out of st. canard user

>drake mallard hates gizmo duck
aw come on they could have actually been friends this time

Sucks we might not get the original villains since they were all tv show characters.

Possibly Steel Beak

Honestly I really don't mind webby. She's suffered more than Mabel and that was the biggest complaint people said about webby is how she's just Mabel 2.0. I mean it's implied she lost her parents from the get go isn't it?

Funny enough, both Starling and Mallard don't like Gizmo Duck

They have never been mentioned. But it is easy to get an idea about their disappearance being related to Beakley being far too overprotective of Webby.

I could see a real life quackerjack at least

dont know about all the muties though

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Yeah I would like a little info on her parents now then. I don't hate her or even Lena. I don't know where all the hate comes from even. Is it generic Yea Forums hates strong women? Is it generic Yea Forums hates lolXDRandum girl? Why?

nanites exist that can turn bird-people into the hulk or give them the ability to shock people.

This. Beaks doesn't really care about beating Scrooge since, as an old timer, he doesn't hav nor care about his image in social media.

Beaks is all about being trendy so someone who is more interested about the business rather than being the face of it is no concert to him.

I actually find it hilarious that Beaks could easily hack his way into the bin but it happens he is the ONE antagonist that doesn't give a hoot about Scrooge's money because he's already rich.

Why the fuck do I find this kinda hot? I’m not ok with this.

Also....source

I imagine if FOWL killed them in some revenge scheme, Beakley would then want to make sure Webby is capable of handling some kind of similar attack, and never let her out of her sight

Beaks might be the reason a modern Megavolt and Liquidator exist. Funding the creation of modern supervillains to out hype the hero could be something he might try.

While I admit I love the twist. Part of me is still a bit sad the true DW is not gonna be voices by Jim.

I honestly couldnt tell the difference when he was in dw mode

>mark beaks is snyderverse luthor

>mfw

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So, new drake mallard is voiced by the same VA who does Storkules and Mickey from the new shorts.

Dake can sure take a beating, he gets blown up and has a piano fall on him.

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This was a REALLY nice touch.
disney.fandom.com/wiki/Michael_Peraza_Jr.

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That's exactly what they are, and the whole bunch were just republished by IDW as DuckTales Classics Vol 1 last winter (a trade paperback).

At least he'll have a recurring role as Negaduck.

I've got to say that I'm not a fan of Mallard's DW costume, if they do get that spinoff I hope they go with the classic look.

He's competent at a lot of things, but it sounded like watching or making movies wasn't one of them. Still, I liked his insistence on mustache-twirling villains.

The only villains confirmed fictional are Megavolt, Quackerjack, Bushroot, and Liquidator. There's an easy way around that.

First, the now criminally insane Jim Starling/Negaduck will steal various experimental technologies, some of which have already been seen on the show (von Drake's rapid plant growth liquid from the Doomsday Vault episode, Gandra Dee's electric handprint from her episode, etc.)

He gives this tech to some small time criminals (perhaps a group of Beagle Boys who've been cut off from the rest of the family for some reason), and they become his gang, the Fearsome Five.

Was Bushroot in any previous DW appearances in this Ducktales show?

He'd be great material for a new DW show

>Mad Madam Mim
I fucking hated the comics featuring her. The same with all other non Donald Duck/Mickey Mouse Disney-comics besides Br'er Rabbit. Those had a comfy feel to them even if they were pretty repetitive.

liked that bit too.

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Doesn't he live in the same place as DW, with same neighbours (with different personalities of course) and the only reason he didn't put two and two together is because he's too busy murdering squirrels with a chansaw and the usual? Just like DW who's too busy to notice a giant Negaduck flag.

In the comics, the cities are quite close to each other, just a couple towns apart at most. In this story from Disney Comics and Stories #664, "All Creatures Great and Small," Donald needs to recover a lost ape for a pet store, and this involves driving from Duckburg to St. Canard, which is accomplished very quickly.

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I don't think we will ever get a full Darkwing Duck reboot series.
But I could see 2 or 3 Darkwing Duck episodes sneak into each seasons going forward.
By Season 6, after reintroducing the Rescue Rangers, Goof Troop, and TaleSpin, DuckTales would basically become the "Disney Afternoon" show, alternating between all of them.

>The theme tune cameo

This fucking episode had everything, didn't it?

Negaduck being a has-been TV actor who's desperate to be back in the public spotlight again could be the reason why he's obsessed with being Public Enemy #1, like he was in the old show.

That does raise the question of why Starling's suit wasn't originally purple.

even launchpad was quoting the lyrics during his speech.

Figured it just was the result of the laser blowing up?

Chris Diamantopoulos can pull off a great DW voice. The fact that he can also sound much softer as Drake actually could make the Civilian/superhero dynamic work pretty well in a possible spinoff

Although it'd be weird having a DW that isn't as arrogant. The fact DW had an ego but tended to overcome it was a big part of the show.

Is this because of the recent scandal

The original costume was probably just cheaply made? Hence the easily washable dye/paint. Just spitballing ideas, here.

just wait till he starts getting a few real world victories

Considering that an episode of a cartoon airing now would have been written/voiced/produced months to potentially a year ago, I highly doubt it.

was a great twist.

I really liked the fight between Mallard and Launchpad.
Yeah, it's unlikely to be a big part of him, but the fame still can get to his head.

That's fair.

I could also see him maybe seeing Gosalyn deal with some bullies, seeing some of himself in her and that (after an adventure) leading into him adopting her.

Scandal? Whuhh?

DW never had an ego in the original show though

mallard did say he's better then gizmo duck, he may still have a bit of an ego.

I'm a little shocked how close I was to guessing how they would introduce Drake Mallard/Real Darkwing into the show.

My guess what that Drake would be a S.H.U.S.H. washout to explain his combat experience, but I guess what they're explaining that by saying he took martial arts lessons to prepare for the role.

I had also guessed that Scrooge would fund him like he does with Gizmoduck. A small time actor doesn't seem like someone who could afford to have a secret headquarters carved into the side of a bridge.

darkwing vs gizmo duck dawn of justice when

>negaduck has the same backstory as original clayface

Do you have any idea how production pipelines work

yes user they changed the entire episode animation and all in a week because of the scandal

I love they were pretty clear to show how resistant to pain both Dakrwings were. Gives hope that a possible spinoff wouldn't shy away of Drake getting hurt.

Hard slapstick is hard to come by in cartoons these days and a new Darkwing Duck show'd be weird without it.

Seem they wanna push the new show Amphibia as the big summer cartoon.

drake got exploded, had a piano dropped on him and was zapped multiple times.in this so I think they could do it for its own show

Considering this version of Darkwing's origin is much more rooted in Ducktales lore than the previous version, do you think other Darkwing Duck characters may have connections to Ducktales characters?

Magica DeSpell and Morgana Macabre seem like they should know each other. Rival witch families?

I could see them connecting Stegmutt's origin to Bubba the Caveduck if they want to introduce the entire Justice Ducks team.

I still believe they might reveal that Scrooge's board of directors is actually F.O.W.L. High Command.

DW didn't have an ego in the original though?

the supergrow formula in the arctic could lead to a real bushroot

I liked how they both were terrified of breaking any of the Darkwing collectible items, and how they kept halting their fight just to make sure those things won't accidentally suffer any damage. Both of them were too big fans to use those things as weapons or consider even threatening to break them, which was something I haven't seen a lot before. Usually in cartoons, those kinds of priceless items tend to get destroyed for the sake of a joke.
The way they were next seen playing with their toys was kind of cute too. I liked how they bonded over their mutual fondness for DW, but both of them were nervous and awkward around the guy himself.

Huh, didn't realize until seeing that screenshot that it's Tennant with those glasses again.

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In a way, they made slapstick comedy into Darkwing Duck's superpower.

He can't be injured as long as his pain is hilarious.

>By season 6
Disney has a strict 4-season policy. After 4 seasons any Disney show gets cancelled and enters syndication, no exceptions.

Oh I'm agreeing with you user. It just surprised me cause lately cartoons seem to try to shy away of harsh hard slapstick, but in here they pulled it off well.

Holy shit I’m just now realizing that Morgana and Magica are two different characters

I loved the part at the set when they set the plan and then immediately start fanboying over what's happening. I can see why'd Drake trust Lauchpad having his back.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. The electricity-generating circuits that Gandra Dee invented could lead to a real Megavolt too.

>actually believing this

and quackerjack is just a dude but how will we get liquidator

I didn't believe that user either, but it's true: no Disney show have been more than 4 seasons.
The loophole to gt out of this is to make a spin-off/sequel series, like Zack & Cody and Phineas and Ferb. So, the "Disney Afternoon" show would still work, but by Season 5 instead.

>Jim Starling secretly starts stealing those stuff as well as a series of dangerous toy props and a liquid chemical that could be introduced in a latter episode.
>Proceeds to use them to create his own Fearsome Five

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obsessed fans of the show want to follow Negaduck

I thought Duckburg and St. Canard were on opposite sides of a bay, like San Francisco and Oakland.

There's still seven episodes of season 2 left.

Plenty of time to introduce some kind of crazy water tech.

no but how will he get his powers

Phineas and ferb had more than four seasons

nope

Well Quackerjack doesn't have powers except to create deadly gizmos and toys. So an obsessed fan lured by Jim that decides to take the Quakerjack mantle could work.

Technically no, but they milked it out all the way with specials, and now with Milo Murphy's Law.

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"Bolt, Botany, Brine, and Brat. I have a plan that requires men with your unique talents."

"Why would we trust you?"

"Because together, we can get a score so big, it'll make the heists pulled by the rest of your family look like chump change."

They're getting a new movie on Disney+

>Chris Diamantopoulos not only has given us a better Mickey than the current main voice has ever done, but also can pull a great DW too.

The guy is a treasure.

Kinda impressed, almost got fooled thinking it was still Jim Cummings voicing the new DW.

>The whole scene is a villanous parody on the "I come to you to talk about the Avengers Initiative" scene from Iron Man.

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Jim Cumming's ex wife accused him of sexual abuse, only to be revealed it was false.

It was a terrible delivery desu

S3 of Ducktales or Darkwing Duck Spin-off

How you explain Phineas and Ferb?

It had 4 seasons. Idiot.

Oh he did it would cause clash if someone got more attention then him especially.

It just had it's episodes really spread out so it felt longer

Honestly as a big faggot who grew up with DW, this whole episode was great and fan service as fuck. Loved Bane Megavolt, liked the joke on Snyder and loved the ending. Which one was the one with the name from the TV show though? I thought Drake Mallard was DWs name. When he was a dad. Does this mean Launchpad and him in the TV show was set NOW?!

Drake Mallard is DW
Jim Starling is Negaduck, but was DW on the TV show in-universe

drake mallard was dw's name in the old show which is why everyone was so confused he was called jim starling in ducktales

Drake will be the current Darkwing Duck like the old show.

Also was the seed vault color code the same from Darkwing or from one of the old Ludwig specials?

Why would they be confused? It's the difference between a secret identity and the name of the guy who plays you on TV, because that's what it is. Jim Starling is just a nod to Jim Cummings. Not really their best bird pun, but whatever.

So does this mean Gosalyn doesn’t exist?

not yet but she will and will be yet another friend for webby

There's no reason to assume Gosalyn won't be introduced later. Perhaps as a classmate of the Triplets and Webby.

Come to think of it, we've never seen them in school, have we? Does Mrs. Beakley homeschool them?

i like the reboot origin of negaduck ,

it is like batman going insane and become owlman , and robin / nightwing has to become batman to stop him .

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apparently they do go to school but its not important to the adventures so its not shown webby is homeschooled though

>it is like batman going insane and become owlman , and robin / nightwing has to become batman to stop him .

One of the best ideas I have heard for Batman in a while.

Ludwig's Spectrum Song

Holy shit this was amazing
>All that jokes about batman
>All comentary on weak ass movies
>New hero
>New villain
>Dewey dancing

Not the same plot at all, but this whole situation reminds me of this.

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Ah okay I remember that being recited somewhere. Nice callback.

Holy shit, thanks user! Couldn't remember why that sounds familiar.

Kinda in reverse.

I really didn't like the first season/Darkwing duck tv show all that much but these last few episodes are great. Is all of season 2 this good?

*Darkwing duck tv show in ducktales 2017 to be clear

>and that was the biggest complaint people said about webby is how she's just Mabel 2.0
No, the biggest complaint anout Webby is how she’s a not that interesting character who steals screen time from those better

But I like her. She's as good as any of the boys as far as I'm concerned.

>Dewey dancing
Am I missing something in its significance?

so

negaduck name is jim starling , right ?

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The boys are mostly lame. That fact that you you use them as a standard shows that you have no standards.

Yes, Negaduck is Jim Starling and Darkwing Duck is Drake Mallard.

Boys are fine. I concede there are better characters but they and webby arw far from unbearable. Hell, i realize in the Della episode how each of the boys kinda has a legit personality of their own. In the og series of Ducktales, they were pretty much interchangeable.

Has this situation happened elsewhere? The original hero goes evil, so the fanboy/sidekick is forced to take the mantle and reluctantly fight the guy who inspired them? It seems like an obvious way to introduce a new replacement for an existing character, but I'm having trouble thinking of other instances.
Considering how much people hated the Kyle/Hal/Parallax origins, I think it's not done too often because fans tend to get pissed off. They don't want to see their favourite heroes derailed like that, and it can also make them hate the new character by association. So it's more common to see a fanboy just having a friendly team-up with their hero like Making an evil version of Darkwing works here a bit better since there already was an evil version of him, and the episode gave him a decent origin story.

Darkwing Duck, Gizmoduck and Storkules team up and become Duckburg's Avengers.

That doesnt imply what you think it implying,Cummings "MeToo" controvery started last week,the episode was already made by then

He (and his mom) somewhat loves Powerline, but finds DW show cringe, despite both be as 90's as they can be.

It was cute and I laughed because it was hilarious.

the only part that destroy is the final fight scene , if the scrooge cancel the movie , why can the director take the unfinished movie to another producer to finish it ?

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Probably because scrooge owns the rights to it.

Burn Ducktales to the ground, give us the Goof Troop reboot we deserve

I'm almost wishing Gosalyn and Morgana are part of Drake's family this time.

The Justice Ducks were a thing in the original DW show, maybe here too.

I know there are many PK/Duck Avenger fans around, but with Darkwing finally here, I don't it's possible anymore (I'd like some reference or freebie, like shadowy Donald using a cape).

But Darkwing and Gizmoduck already have a team.

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yes, there are no hopes. I think that in general they don't really want nothing from european comics.

I'm still mad but this episode kind of made up for it.

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That was pretty fucking great. The general quality of this show has noticeably improved since the first season, from the animation to the writing, but this one really blew me away.

I expected them to pull the actor becoming his character in real life trope, so I'm not really surprised that Darkwing is here to stay, but I really didn't see that twist with Starling and Negaduck coming. And the cinematography in this episode holds up pretty well, so does the Gizmoduck intro from yesterday's ep. I really think they can make more superhero stories work with this style. Now let's hope Paperinik/Duck avenger/Powerduck will join the gang some time in the future.

Overall that was a pretty great batch of episodes. I'm still waiting to see how they'll handle the whole Donald on the moon arc but I'm more hopeful about it than I was a week before.

They used Fethry.

They did a Fethry and a Rockerduck episode, and the former is almost certainly here to stay. Considering how much fun they're having with superhero stories, I wouldn't cross out that possibility, albeit it will probably not happen before a few seasons.

A LUCKY EMBLEM

We pretend that cameo episode doesn't exist
Same with The Town Where Everyone Was Nice but that had salvageable moments

>People think Jim is going to recruit people and turn them into villains
>implying he won't cause "accidents" to recreate villains and then recruit them.

Also would it be weird if instead of Gosalyn being Drake's kid we get a grown up actress who played Gosalyn as part of the extended Darkwing cast.

How likely is it that Darkwing Duck meets Gizmoduck?

Basically what Ducktales is trying to do is make a prequel to the original DW tv show. Drake is the Darkwing Duck and Jim the Negaduck from the 90s show. Esentially, that series is connected to the Ducktales reboot

Man I would take a DW series that have crossovers with Ducktales. I don't know how to make it work. But Launchpad can leave Ducktales for DW, I think it would be best for everyone.

A DD spinoff series would be cool but why do people think that's going to happen? So many current duck series as is

first duck Dr. Doofenshmirtz and now we got Duck Gordon

People really like the ducktales stuff and Disney+ hasn't announced many new cartoons aimed at children yet so it's not exactly unikely, especially if they can get a few shows exclusive on Disney+ so kids beg their parents to get it.

Scrooge probably wouldn't give over the rights cause it'd mean losing money.

Also the episode clearly shows he has no idea how modern movies work.

A little. Besides from what we have seen from the in-universe DW show, Gosalyn doesn't exist in it.

(Which kinda make sense if we assume Jim Starling always had a big ego. Probably wouldn't have wanted a small kid actor tagging along and stealing his spotlight)

>The ending of the episodes works as a great possible setting to it.
>The main writers and director are known DW fans
>Disney could use more animated shows for the Disney+ service.

Yeah, but assuming Caballeros is coming to Disney+ if we had Darkwing Duck come that would be 3 duck-based series Disney has to juggle
I can see it once Ducktales ends, but I don't think they'd have it concurrently

Can he convince Scrooge to rape Magica?
even though he is just an actor in a cancalled reboot

So how will Scrooge make a profit from his cancelled big budget capeshit movie?

>The Scrooge Cut

Another question, how will they introduce Gosalyn into Nu-Ducktales?

So he's Niles Caulder now?

Dewey is extremely unbearable, and even Huey and Louie can be Grating at times. Interchangeable personalities are far preferable to individual annoyances that hog screentime.

What if the show got cancelled because of Jim Starling's massive ego?

We don't know much about Drake Mallard yet. For all we know, he already has an adopted daughter.

It's not that they don't want to use things from European comics. It's just that nobody on the staff seems all that familiar with them compared to the American comics. PK is a big enough deal that they at least seem familiar with him.

The new guy sounded so similar I was sure Jim voiced them both. Had to check credits.

Given that Dewey wanted to shoehorn in a kid sidekick who skateboards everywhere, there presumably wasn't one in the classic TV show.

A dog rather than a duck.

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Based

>Commissioner Nordog

Oppai shirt?

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I really don't trust them with the Donald on the moon bit

Is it painful when he took off the mask?

This guy actually showed up in the Boom comics for a hot minute, no idea if they were going to continue using him.

Motherfucker he's Spongebob you tell me

You seriously think it takes any skill to be Spongebob?

Funnily enough, there was an episode of Darkwing Duck that had DW as a movie star

they also kina used the origin from the paraducks episode. Darkwing still inspired Darkwing.

Della already has a grudge with Launchpad for being the family pilot. Della is gonna try to fly them everywhere. She already changed the name of the Sun Chaser.

I thought this was a wonderful homage to the original darkwing duck
Jim's fate reminded me of that one quote:
>You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain

welp, now the hiatus begins

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